First OTC experience

Just do it!

If you're uncomfortable, don't do it. I would recommend getting to know the dancer much better prior to doing OTC. If and when you do try OTC, use a neutral site, NOT her place or your place.

I recommend using the search function here to read prior threads about OTC. You'll have to dig through a lot of BS to get at the good info available.

Good Luck & be CAREFUL!

Well, I followed my list of rules on how to deal with strippers in my first OTC experience, because I used very same set of rules with dating women in general.

I wasn't able to pull her right out of work because of some bullshit baby sitter excuse.

She calls me next day, we agree to meet, I pick her up (during daylight), then take her to hotel of my choice & handle business.

Risk free move.

As a pre caution I was late by 2 hours.

Just make sure you take her to the hotel you decide on, and if you're really paranoid spend like $60 extra and get a nice one, because sometimes these girls have history of really knowing hotel places, where setting up is easier if they do want to rob you. However these are usually cheap motel rooms so it's easy to guess which ones are.

Your concern should be the aftermath though, after you're done, drive her home!.

Don't fall asleep afterwards, that's how you get robbed. Don't let her stay with you, that's also how you get robbed. If she ends up staying the night, keep in mind hotels leave receipts in the morning that exposes your name/address/etc. Also, if you're leaving right after, if she asks you to keep the room, obvious answer is HELL NO.

I was paranoid my first time too. You should be fine. Just take her to a cheap HOtel room the first time around.

Shma-la-shmard, I got your PM. Real nice...real nice.

Don't listen to @Alucard else you'll end up like him.

Only way you'll know that you're doing things right is by being uncomfortable.

Nobody ever comfortably made a great decision.

"some bullshit baby sitter excuse"

Childcare is an important issue in dealing with dancers & OTC.

Dalex: "Don't listen to @Alucard else you'll end up like him."

LMFAO! So true!

Of course it's an important issue, because if you don't handle it by letting them know you come first and not their kids, they'll always use that as a leverage to not seeing right as your dick gets hard.

Her 2 year old son doesn't pay her rent, you do, your dick comes first, literally.

Hooo boy Dalex for only being in the game a few months you sure talk like a pro. ;) Dating civilians now too. You're just an ambitious go getting little whipper snapper aintcha?

I dated civilians before strip clubs.

Also, strippers are not only kind of females that need their rent paid.

dalex: "I dated civilians before strip clubs."

Not according to your original post in your thread about clubs saving you. Which is it dalex??


"Little background on me: 24 year old white male, with a high speed internet connection, competent around googles and internets, with a sufficient income coming from staying at home, no social life.

Which means, I'm young & get my sexual needs fulfilled by porn, have zero friends, don't go around many people at all (outside of grocery stores and gas stations), but I make enough money to live comfortable life without needing to put myself in any kind of social situation, ever.

So that means, as of 4 months ago, I was a basically miserable lonely motherfucker. A fat one, at that, don't find myself good looking, and although confident within my work, not confident enough as a physical being.

After being this guy for years, many years, since high school, I've decided enough is enough. Getting into Pick up artist bullshit, and all of that, won't help a guy like me, at all. I'd never put myself in a social situation, and if I were, if I got a negative reaction from anyone, ever, I'd run out and never return again.

I've considered strip clubs for years, I knew money was the answer there, but being extremely shy person, I never pictured myself being seen there, what if my family found out? what would people think of me having to PAY for female interaction? After years of working up the courage, one night while alone in my apartment, lonely as shit, I decided I had it enough. Fuck my morals, fuck my ethics, fuck my reputation, fuck everything, I'm going for what I want in life!

I stepped into local club, nicest club around, I knew if I went there instead of some dives, I have less chance of anything going wrong, so I'd just try to be transparent, & I also brought enough money to make sure everything goes smoothly as possibly."

Alushart, posting a link to the thread would've been more than enough.

How does it feel to be 60 years old without reading comprehension?

This is 2nd time you've blatantly just assumed something that wasn't ever stated, in fact in the same thread I've said that once I started frequenting strip clubs it helped me progress with a woman that I was already seeing.

Just like you assumed that I professed great writing ability, when I've done only complete opposite.

Keep balling my friend... http://i.imgur.com/AfzBL.jpg

Just do it, meet her in a place you are comfortable with and give her a good banging! Once you've done it once you'll be eager to do it again (assuming it goes well). Good luck.

Sorry, alutard where is the part where he says he never before going to strip clubs, because it ain't in anything you posted!

"This changed my life within one night, I obviously escalated from there and got into the whole scene much more. Prior to that, I was also talking to one girl, strictly platonic, for months with nothing going on"

This talking was a dating relationship???

I really think Alucard is just embracing his role as TUSCL's villain. He finally realized there's no turning back. Now he's just TRYING to get a reaction out of people.

God, could you be any more retarded alutard? He was talking to one woman platonically, so he was not dating her, therefore it's not possible ever dated any other women?

Amazing you can be so stupid but still fancy yourself a "logical thinker". I wonder if your logical abilities could be my worse! Fuckin' moron!

Alucard is full on researching me.

I must be a fascinating person to him because I've never seen someone research another person like that, go into detail of everything I've said on here to fit the puzzle.

I didn't say I was dating this particular one, but we've talked & did few things together, however it didn't escalate onto a sexual level at that point yet.

Before that it was just traditional nice guy situations, but hey if you have an incomplete puzzle, then you have to fill the missing pieces with something, and that's what you've been doing.

Most of the time when I do OTC I do it at my house. But, I pick them up at their houses and I take them back to their houses. I've never had them drive to my house.

I agree that you should have pretty good knowledge of the dancer in advance is desirable. The first time I met her OTC she insisted that she meet me at the hotel so she could leave if I went berserk on her. I travel for work and earn free nights with Hilton & Marriott so I use these . We. Live about 2 hours apart so i picked hotels more than 1/2 way to her house. I arrive first and text her the room #. On 2 occasions i left her the key and let her stay there. both times i got charges on my credit csrd for her smoking in non-smoking rooms. Talk In advance about how long youll be there. Sometimes If we planned an all nighter or even a couple of hours, I'd bring champagne or another refreshment. I also put together a travel pack - condoms, lubricant, personal wipes,etc. I really need/like bare back blow jobs and she agreed on the condition I bring alcohol wipes so she could do a thorough cleaning in advance. On a couple of occasions she brought a girl friend and on these special days shed bring a boom box and I'd bring a camera or whatever. I've probably met her 150 times over the past 3 years in about 30 different hotels and have never had a problem with hotel security . Whereas I'm significantly older than her we generally don't arrive or leave together. My favorite is an Embassy Suites which has large mirrored doors beside the king size bed.

Pleeeeeze don't make me moderator of this forum, but I gotta break the tie and agree with Drac.

Da kid (dalex) seemed to have changed his tune more than Freddie Mercury. He went from being a shy, friendless computer geek in Post Uno to Julian Kaye in a few weeks.

Just because I'm a shy friendless guy doesn't mean I'll let a female take advantage of me or even put her in a situation where he can.

Pick a cheap hourly motel - you can probably find them in the Yellow Pages or Yelp under “hourly motel”.

The less you let a stripper know about you the better – so letting her know where you live is more than unnecessary.

Her place can also be a bad situation – she can have roommates or even a bf which means that even if they leave for your OTC “meeting”, she may be rushed - a neutral site is best.

Agree on what is expected in terms of services; for what length of time; and more importantly agree on the cost.

I am not too much OTC experienced myself – so I don’t know what a fair rate is – perhaps others can chime in on that – but just don’t agree to any price she sets – pay what you think, or other TUSCLers suggest, is a fair price .

We are supposed to take OTC advice from a 24 year old with no life experience?

Oops, I thought I was on tuscl, is this stripperweb?

Whoa, pablo! I'm 24. And I've experienced plenty!

No country for old men.

No CLUBS for old men.

Decided I'm going to spend a little more time with the broad before I meet at her place. Seems too sketchy right now. But damn is she sexy.

There are many members on TUSCL that were strip clubbing way before dalex and staxwell were just gleams in their fathers eyes. Some real "experience" under their belts. About the only thing I have learned from the younger whipper snappers are new terms for drugs.
Also it is laughable that dal asked, "What's your experience like?" as though nobody has discussed OTC experiences on here. The folly of youth!

Like I say no country for old men. Alot of that "experience", for many, just means they got ideas ingrained in their head that are no longer applicable to the present reality. New folks went in without such perjudicies and picked up on the way things really are alot quicker. (Classic example, of course, is RickBoyDugan and his idiotic "system", which new members instantly realize is unnecessary and, indeed, even less effective than "just ask".)

I asked someone who told me strippers didn't go out with customers. The second time in a strip club alone, the second dancer I asked to go out said yes. I wasn't exactly that tactful, took all of about two minutes in between two dancers.

I went out with her and then got ticked off when I found out she wanted money for her time. Initially refused. Then she cried. With lots of cash back then I decided to give her some. Things went off and on between us for a while and we eventually became friends somewhat. I never forgot that first night and her asking for money which she had said absolutely nothing about ahead of time. I remember she did use the term private party but I knew absolutely nothing about strip clubs back then except where a couple were located. Apparently she assumed I knew a lot more than I did. If I had to do that night over again, I wouldn't have met up with her or paid her any money.

When I knew what I was getting into, I did enjoy my time with her and other dancers up to a point.

I remember one dancer whom I never gave my phone number to. That made it real easy to break things off with her. I never called her after I got upset with her for something. I do not remember what it was for anymore. I was glad I didn't loan her one of my cd's in my car she liked.

Drink - there is nothing like a little liquid courage to get you through your first OTC adventure. ;)

I have a stricker on my car that my daughter gave me. It reads "Old Men Rule". I'll take on you whipper snappers any day.

LOL. I was talking about experiences I've dealt with in real life. But, I grew up in a place where the OG's sat at the table drinking, playing cards, and talking about stuff that we (the kids) knew nothing about, while we (the kids) played the background and soaked up all the game we could (much like I do here).

That's how I came up, and that's how I'll be until I reach OG status. Soaking up game as it comes to me.

I am watching all the posts on OTC and I cannot imagine that anyone would find this preferable to sex with a long-time spouse or girlfriend. Makes me feel kind of strange to realize that my strip club addiction is an adjunct to a long, loving marriage with my wife, who is well aware of where I go and what I do and that makes me the wierdo and not mainstream. I just assumed we all went because boys will be boys and were lucky enough to have women in our lives secure enough to not be concerned.

" I just assumed we all went because boys will be boys and were lucky enough to have women in our lives secure enough to not be concerned."

Were you born yesterday?

sc,

You go girl! I used "girl" since that is the normal phrase, plus it sounded better than "You go old man!" :)

Clubber - Thanks. Remember juice chickened out on meeting me. :)

My first OTC experience:

My fave gave me her number last summer, but I hadn't contacted her until December, after I invested in a "burn phone". One night about a month ago, I texted her reminding her about her offer to meet OTC. She didn't text back until after midnite, but we agreed to meet at 2 AM. I went to her motel. The room was quite messy and included a roommate, who is another dancer at fave's club. Roommate took a hike and left us alone for about a half hour. Got a CBJ with a little DATY and some ear play. Not what I had hoped for. My expectation was for extensive DATY and DFK, followed at last by a BJ.

Anyhow, saw her again at club this week and told her of my disappointments. She promised to do better next time. That may be after tax refund time. The GFE is much better ITC, so I may do that at least once more before another OTC adventure.