My attempt at OTC. What do you think?
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This happened today. I am new to TUSCL I have been going to strip clubs for years and I am still trying to crack the code for the OTC thing. Still learning. I am in my early fifties and fairly normal looking. Dress well and can carry on a conversation. I met this one her name is “P†over six months ago and we hit it off. Very hot, 35 could pass for 25, gave me her number and we texted back and forth, she danced for me a few times and we had a real good time. Club has no extras so it was full contact. But she let me get away with some stuff. I attempted the OTC today and here is the text string verbatim. Please any comments or advice would be great. My comments in parentheses.
Me: Hey girl how are you
Her: Hi
Me: how is it goin today
Her: I blew a tire in my car
Me: that's not good
Her: I also have a pinched nerve so I have to go fix that (more SS)
Me: that's too bad (I see an opening)
Me: Sweetie I can help with this…but I will need something also (im goin in)
Her: how could you help and what would you need? (looks like and opening)
Me: I thought you were referring to financial problems
Her: so what could you possibly want in return? My new tire is $181 (appears we are getting somewhere)
Me: well…
Me: a couple of hours to play at my hotel
Her: I can pay for my own tire thanks
Her: I am not a hooker!! (shit, but hey nothing lost if she gets offended I figure)
Me: no you are not (damage control)
Me: I just thought we could help each other out
Her: I don't do anything outside of the club (OTC yes she gets it, but not biting)
Her: and for $181? You've lost your mind (my bad? offer was too low? should have been more clear?)
Me: well I was not trying to offend you and you said the amount
Me: I have heard about people who have mutually beneficial arrangements
Me: not my area of expertise (trying to settle her down)
Me: sorry (talk her off the ledge)
Her:yes
Her: I have had sugardaddies (I knew it!)
Her:I don't have sex with them (bullshit)
Me: well I understand (does not sound like sugardaddies, if there is no sugar)
Me: but I would need more (staying firm on what I want)
Me: what would you need (persistence)
Her: what would you need?
Me: what I said before
Her: people play in different ways (its on again?)
Me: full sex (direct)
Her: I don't have sex unless I am in love (I know for a fact this is bullshit, but hey she is a stripper)
Her: so that's not going to work.
Me: what is available? (still trying)
Her: how much $ if it were to get sexual (its on once again?)
Me: you tell me (trying to get her to make an offer)
Me: no club to pay, nothing weird, no drama, no judgment, no jealousy, just fun (trying to sell it)
Her: I want to know how much because it may not be worth me not going to work (is she playing me?)
Me: 400
Her: Lol no thank you (she is, no counter offer)
Me: then you tell me…do not need all night
Me: well I keep making offers…what is your offer?
Her: but I would not go to work anyway, its fine. I am not interested.
Me: oh well…sorry to hear that
That is it what would you have done different. I am a newb but I thought it was a good attempt?
Me: Hey girl how are you
Her: Hi
Me: how is it goin today
Her: I blew a tire in my car
Me: that's not good
Her: I also have a pinched nerve so I have to go fix that (more SS)
Me: that's too bad (I see an opening)
Me: Sweetie I can help with this…but I will need something also (im goin in)
Her: how could you help and what would you need? (looks like and opening)
Me: I thought you were referring to financial problems
Her: so what could you possibly want in return? My new tire is $181 (appears we are getting somewhere)
Me: well…
Me: a couple of hours to play at my hotel
Her: I can pay for my own tire thanks
Her: I am not a hooker!! (shit, but hey nothing lost if she gets offended I figure)
Me: no you are not (damage control)
Me: I just thought we could help each other out
Her: I don't do anything outside of the club (OTC yes she gets it, but not biting)
Her: and for $181? You've lost your mind (my bad? offer was too low? should have been more clear?)
Me: well I was not trying to offend you and you said the amount
Me: I have heard about people who have mutually beneficial arrangements
Me: not my area of expertise (trying to settle her down)
Me: sorry (talk her off the ledge)
Her:yes
Her: I have had sugardaddies (I knew it!)
Her:I don't have sex with them (bullshit)
Me: well I understand (does not sound like sugardaddies, if there is no sugar)
Me: but I would need more (staying firm on what I want)
Me: what would you need (persistence)
Her: what would you need?
Me: what I said before
Her: people play in different ways (its on again?)
Me: full sex (direct)
Her: I don't have sex unless I am in love (I know for a fact this is bullshit, but hey she is a stripper)
Her: so that's not going to work.
Me: what is available? (still trying)
Her: how much $ if it were to get sexual (its on once again?)
Me: you tell me (trying to get her to make an offer)
Me: no club to pay, nothing weird, no drama, no judgment, no jealousy, just fun (trying to sell it)
Her: I want to know how much because it may not be worth me not going to work (is she playing me?)
Me: 400
Her: Lol no thank you (she is, no counter offer)
Me: then you tell me…do not need all night
Me: well I keep making offers…what is your offer?
Her: but I would not go to work anyway, its fine. I am not interested.
Me: oh well…sorry to hear that
That is it what would you have done different. I am a newb but I thought it was a good attempt?
Comments
last commentTry to find a "Hungrier" dancer who is more interested. Perhaps try to get the dancer to ask about OTC.
And yeah I probably let it go on too long.
Or find that really money hungry dancer and be direct. Can help if it is the end of the month when Rent is due.
Personally, I'd forget her, but good luck!
Stanton, I think you may be onto something her tone has been somewhat negative already.m
You can get a fine ass, low volume, no 'woe is my pinched nerve' so bad sex, escort for the night for that amount...
I think you need to settle down and think with the head that's on your shoulders...
Seriously, I would never do this by text. I'd start the conversation at the club, then if necessary continue it by phone. But maybe that's just me.
Good point about the text vs in person. Probably did not help.
Very interesting text exchange there.
Also, why would this stripper give you her number if she didn't do p2p? That is a new one on me. I've never had them give me a number and say "lets chat and gossip". I'd toss that number.
Unless it is with Dougster. LOL I'd never get a word in edgewise! LMFAO
And Dougster, you are correct, i will charge you $2000 and dress you on a hazmat suit and convince you youre getting the deal of the century.........and then I still won't have sex with you. :)
Do I understand that YOU were paying HER? That is wrong, so very wrong.
1) Effective negotiation technique is well known. First, don't act is if you care (too much). Second, establish your walk-away position before you start haggling. Then, figuratively, walk away.
2) Getting a girl OTC should be easy, or it's not gonna be any good. In my experience, girls either say yes pretty quickly and without much drama, or they put you through hell. (Even the ones who say yes quickly sometimes put you through hell. Why do we do this?)
This girl gave you her number to get you back in the club. She's not giving you anything OTC except blue balls.
Now what happens back in the club with her? Now that you have the OTC "bug", your relationship with her is problematical. Wishful thinking wont make it happen. For me, if I wanted OTC, I would move on to another girl. This is the equivalent of the walk away. If girl 1 changes her mind, let her come to you (more wishful thinking).
I will have to step carefully. By the way I have gotten many strippers to give me their number over the years. OTC on the other hand has not been so easy.
If, in your post, you are implying that I've had vaginal intercourse or had someones penis in my mouth for money, that is completely false. There was absolutely no need for me to engage in that type of behavior with a stranger to make money and I'm quite offended by your post.
@jester- Youre right. Totally uninterested unless it would be for my few really good regulars. And I definitely would draw the line at sex. Its honestly not something I'm comfortable doing.