Disappointing OTC

Carl:

Not many girls have disappointed me with bad sex. Almost every girl has SOME ability. And I'm sure that perhaps some girls have been disappointed in my performance.

However, the few girls that I have been VERY disappointed in, those were the girls I simply did not pursue again.

I guess I should elaborate on the disappointment. She did everything I asked her to do, but was distant during our time together and did not initiate anything. She is engaging and communicative the rest of the time but I am looking for someone more invested in the sex but not in an acting kinda way like most escorts seem to be.

Seems like you could do both 1& 2 concurrently. Familiarity has resulted in improved results for me in the past.

I would say she was keeping you distant for a reason.

1. Sex is a job, so she's keeping it professional, impersonal.

2. She wants your money, but not you. Maybe things will change with familiarity.

3. This is the way she has sex with everybody. (what a disappointment).

4. You don't have a connection. Hey, sometimes it doesn't happen. Try someone else.

If sex with a woman is bad it is because she does not want it to be good. There might be all sorts of reasons why she does not want it to be good, but you will have to figure out what it is and change it. Or just try somebody else.

Try a different woman for a better connection. Of course I don't know the escort scene where you are but maybe you could find one on the review site TER that offers GFE. A good GFE or PSE escort should satisfy your desires.

As others have said in other threads, one can buy sex but one can’t buy love/feelings/a-real-girlfriend.

It seems that you are looking for what can’t be bought. Often sex that is paid for will be mechanical and/or impersonal.

Money is a conflict of interest – if you are paying her to be with you she is with you b/c you are paying her, not b/c she want to be with *you*.

Find somebody you don’t have to pay to have sex with you and you may get what you are looking for.

Move on before you think you are in love.

Let me illuminate on my previous comment. If sex with a woman is not good it is because she does not want it to be good. That is different than having it be paid for. There are many reason why a woman would want the sex to be good even though she is being paid for it. She likes good sex. She likes knowing you are satisfied. She knows that there will be more money from you in the future if the sex is good.

Why might she not want the sex to be good? She has bad incidents in her past regarding sex. She does not want you to get attached. She does not want to get attached herself. The list goes on.

Best choice: find an escort/stripper who wants the sex to be good.

"1. Continue to see her OTC in the hopes that familiarity will improve the sex."

No. If it sucks, then it will likely not get better. There are a lot of girls that do p4p, but a certain % of them cannot get themselves to do much more than go through the motions. I would move on.

"2. Find another girl, potentially dodging the first at her club, and work the process for another OTC encounter."

This. Develop a couple of favs who you think will be good targets. OTB and Silk both have reps for having more understanding girls compared to a lot of clubs in Milwaukee, so with a little patience I am sure that you can find what you are seeking.

"3. Return to the escort scene and pay a premium for their time, but never really getting a GFE experience."

Since when do escorts run at a premium vs. OTC with strippers? Though given what little I have seen from what advertises on EROS in Milwaukee, I'd probably avoid that route. LE is also, by all reports, particularly tough on escorts in Milwaukee.

"4. Abandon Milwaukee altogether, take a traveling consultant position, and play ITC/OTC in other cities."

Up to you I suppose, but I don't think that I would change my job just because of strip clubs. LOL

Try another. I don't pay for a dancer's services a 2nd time if she shows any indifference. I WANT & desire engagement and enthusiasm. I pay well when those two qualities are shown.

It's a long shot, but you *could* ask her about it. "I noticed that you didn't seem to be as into it as I'd hoped. Was that me, or is this just not something you want to do? Is there anything I could do to help make it better for you?"

If you say it convincingly enough, she'll take you for some metro-sexual, white knight, PL who just wants to feel good about himself and spend money on her doing it. Maybe she'll fake it better next time or, if you're lucky, actually give you some ideas for making it better.

Thanks, guys, for the advice. I think you all have put this in perspective for me. I think rickdugan is right about moving on with option 2. I just need to move on from the disappointment with the first girl and find someone else, if the right someone else can be found. What I am looking for seems simple: a 9-10 who genuinely enjoys sex and for a certain amount of generosity is willing to let me be one of the guys she plays with.

As for escorts being a premium, let me shed some light on that one. The local escort scene is nearly as bad as the strip club scene. There are very few drop dead gorgeous escorts in Milwaukee. So I have played with a lot of visiting girls, mostly ILE and Viva girls. Spectacular looks but faked or mechanical sex with an occasional genuine encounter here and there. I'm used to $300 - $400 per hour for those girls, so OTC that is $500 for 3-4 hours is a much more attractive generosity mark.

As for talking about the situation with the girl, I'm not sure that will produce anything...in thinking about that night I get the sense that she is performing the way she would for anybody. The sex is truly a challenge for her psychologically despite everything she says to the contrary the rest of the time. She is a frisky rule-breaker in the club, a normal down-to-earth girl via text and on the phone OTC, but the act of having sex, while something she does, is not something she seems to really be comfortable with.

As for option 4, that was a joke making light of just how much Milwaukee sucks. I'd love to spend a few months playing in Detroit...