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Electronman
Too much of a good thing is never enough
In a separate discussion thread, a poster noted that he had tipped dancers on stage, in this case a relatively generous tip ($5), and told them that he was interested in a private dance but the dancer still did NOT stop by afterwards. So my question is, how common is this and why does it happen?
Several speculations:
1. They have a customer already lined up ahead of you--- this speculation is easily tested--does the dancer immediately head to the VIP with another customer; often not in my experience.
2. They are expecting a regular at a pre-arranged time and they don't want to be busy when their regular arrives
3. They have biases about the customers for whom they will provide a private dance--- some don't like certain racial groups, some have an age preference (sometimes in favor of older and presumably wealthier men), some don't like the way a customer is dressed or have concerns about hygiene
4. The dancer talk among themselves about which customers are more difficult to negotiate with, more specifically, which customers request certain services up front or make low-ball counter offers and the dancers do not approach that customer
5. The dancers have concerns that a customer could be an undercover LEO.
Any other theories, proven or unproven, as to why this might occur?
Several speculations:
1. They have a customer already lined up ahead of you--- this speculation is easily tested--does the dancer immediately head to the VIP with another customer; often not in my experience.
2. They are expecting a regular at a pre-arranged time and they don't want to be busy when their regular arrives
3. They have biases about the customers for whom they will provide a private dance--- some don't like certain racial groups, some have an age preference (sometimes in favor of older and presumably wealthier men), some don't like the way a customer is dressed or have concerns about hygiene
4. The dancer talk among themselves about which customers are more difficult to negotiate with, more specifically, which customers request certain services up front or make low-ball counter offers and the dancers do not approach that customer
5. The dancers have concerns that a customer could be an undercover LEO.
Any other theories, proven or unproven, as to why this might occur?
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I did this myself once, and I've also overheard people complain about dancers 'not noticing I gave her a five.'
#1 is probably the most likely.
Related to #1 but still different, another customer snags them after they get off stage OR another customer also tipped them and asked for dances.
In my limited experience, the #1 reason is that they already have someone else either there or about to arrive.
The #2 reason is that they are not interested in you.
Don't get hung up on this, hey you look for dancers who fit your standards, many dancers also look for guys who fit their idea of a good customer.
If you pass the first cut, then the games begin.
I guess politeness isn't a virtue for some Dancers.
That's just a GREAT attitude to take jackslash. So your deduction applies to 100% of all Dancers? Hmm...
correctionee they are lying thieving whores
So my advice is attitude is as important as looks.
So my advice is attitude is as important as looks.
But, even then, after a yes answer, a few still flake out, or say they'll be back in dressing room for "a few minutes", and just disappear. IME, the flakeouts generally happened on a crowded night.
So, my theories are either a flakeout by dancer, or she doesn't really want to dance with OP for some reason.
I wonder if she sits there laughing at us at times knowing that she is just like many others? Personally, I don't think so, but she could be playing us as fools, as do many. Love ya' 25!
True.
Geez, so much cynicism!
Have fun.
The possibilities are endless as to why a dancer doesn't come to see you after you've tipped and specifically asked. It's not a good idea to keep pursuing them if they don't come over. Its so easy to tell someone why you can't dance with them that it should tell you a little something about how they do business if they blow you off. I'd quit pursuing her and if she wants to dance with you, she'll come over. She should apologize before you dance with her though.
He just thinks about wanting a dance - and within minutes a dancer magically appears before him.
Happens A LOT. They just don't want the risk of drama. Drama means it ties up their time and turns other customers off.
11) Her horoscope told her to avoid guys like you.
Who the fuck knows?
Trying to make sense of dancers and their motivations is a pointless exercise in my experience. Not only are a certain % of them flaky, but their moods are subject to change. Any particular girl may or may not have legit reasons for not approaching, but we'll never know what they are anyway.
I simply focus on the ones who demonstrate that they want my money and don't really worry about the ones who don't.
Maybe she just forgot. In between dances multiple stages, phone calls in the dressing room or whatever else is going on in between her regulars and other guys asking, I can understand a dancer forgetting one guy tipped her a 5. Maybe she wanted or needed to head out early. Who knows. She may have had 5 regulars and 3 other guys ask her before you.
What I find sometimes amusing is when a dancer has her back turned towards me or doesn't see me approach the stage. A dollar bill or tip falls out on the stage nearby me. I tip her a dollar and she gives me extra attention thinking I threw another dollar out on the stage before that one.
I've seen one guy tip twenty dollar bills. I remember at one point he sat near the stage and tipped every girl that he tipped at least a 20. I continued to sit at the stage and tipped the same dancers a one. They gave me just about the same amount of attention while on stage.
3. She's pissed off at you because she thinks you're someone else.
4. She's pissed off at someone else but won't tell you and won't do any more dances than she needs for tip out.
I could go on all day.
A couple of times in my last strip club visits I just met the dancer as she was coming of stage and told her I wanted some dances. On each occasion I was able to get dances from the girl before she went back to the other table and I didn't even tip the $50 the other guys did.
Fair warning when using this strategy, I did this once was a Russian girl in Miami who said it was complicated why she could spend more time with me(Russian Mob), and when I got between someone's $50 and there dancer we actually avoided the main floor to try and hide from her other customers.
Most dancers do more talking with customers than actual dances so they would be more likely to find you if they know you are going to spend money on them.
This is the kind of Honesty I prefer.
Being a regular at a club I can tell you that I never go tip the girls when they go on stage or venture to pervert alley and regardless of what any other person tips her up there she'll thank them before heading back to my table. If someone does ask her for a dance they'll come to me and asks my permission which is always cute if you're into that sort of thing. I think a sure thing is better to them than a risky venture.
If I ever do tip on the stage I view it as placing a bid. When I first started going to clubs I had plenty of non-aproachers. I also sent a stripper to tell another stripper that I wanted to do a VIP session and the dancer ended up forgetting about me and my money.
If I get cold shouldered, I move on. Regardless of what could have been the dancer can make her bed and go dance in it. that's why its best to have options I find.