Getting robbed in a club

Chandler--
During a later visit to that club, I saw the owner and told him what happened. He said that had happened before with him and he said he would keep a closer eye on him. I haven't seen that guy the last couple of times I've been in. I usually go during the day, so he could be there at night.

I forgot to add many dancers ask me if I have everything after I get a lap dance from them. If your wallet, keys, cell phone or something slips out of your pocket and you don't check before you leave the dance room, it may not be there when you go looking for it I've been told. Some dancers are honest but some are not.

I actually got talked into getting dances from two dancers at the same time. Well, one dancer said two for $30 so I started asking is that one girl dances 2 songs for $30 or both dancers dance one song for $30? She said she would dance 2 for $30 then the other dancer could do the same. However this must not have registered with the other dancer because they both started dancing at the same time. I was ok. I could pay them both $30.

Anyway after the first song, the DJ started talking and he talked for probably 2 whole minutes. Then the next song started. The girls just kept going at it saying they were horny. Yeah right. Anyway the song ended and the girls didn't ask anything about the number of songs so I said that's the end of the 2 songs isn't it? Then one girl started saying that was 6 songs. That got me a bit upset.

I said 2 songs and 2 minutes of nothing but the DJ talking. Then they both started saying that was 3 songs. I was probably getting a bit more upset. I told one dancer whom I've gotten dances from in the past that if I paid her that amount, I would never get dances from her again. She said she didn't want me angry at her so they agreed to me just paying them both $30 each. Needless to say they turned me off of getting any more dances from two girls at the same time.

On the other shoe, I know of a guy who ripped off a dancer. He got 8 dances but only paid her for 4. She kept asking after each song if he wanted another and she tells the price. Anyway the bouncer got an extra $10 from him and he said that was all he had before he was escorted out of the club. He was back the next day and the dancer who got ripped off wasn't happy about that.

I once had a dancer pick my pocket in a strip club. I informed the management. I believe 8 dancers and one bouncer were put on a 2 week suspension during an investigation. The manager gave me back the tip change I had stolen and I identified the culprit. She was working at another club within a few weeks. That has to be one of the most stupid things for a dancer to do. If she doesn't get jail time, she may lose her job or be suspected in all other strip clubs in the area as she keeps getting fired. I did inform a bouncer about her that they might want to watch her. I didn't say anything at the third club I saw her working at. She was very friendly to me. I never told her that I identified her to the first manager at the first club she worked at for 2 years.

I only carry a money clip, leather type with sections on both sides for a couple of credit cards and drivers license, the money I keep in the middle with a brass clip, sometimes I'll stick a couple of $100's down in with the cc and I keep all my singles in the other pocket. It's compact and you can always feel it and it usually stays low in your pocket. However once, when I was paying one of my favorite dancers for a dance I slipped it back into my pocket and missed. Got back out of VIP to my table and noticed it was gone. Found my dancer and asked if she happened to pick it up, she said no, went up to bar and asked, manager asked if I could ID it, which I could it even had my DL in it duh. He said yeah, that girl just turned it in. Checked it out, all money and cc in it. I walked over thanked her and gave her a $100. It had about $1200 in it, she didn't want to even take the money, dont' find that often. Other than that never had a bad experience being cheated except for bad dances and some I wish they had miscounted that I had paid in advance lol

Chandler--
This particilar club is definitely not a rip-off club. In fact, I have gotten to know the owner over the years. He'll even recommend new girls to me if he thinks I'll like them. I think this was an isolated event with this particilar dancer. After this happened I was obviously pissed and one of other girls asked me what happened. I told her and she said she wasn't surprised it happened with that dancerl.

The only similar rip-off I've run into is I once agreed to a dance with a girl, paid her up front for it, then when I got into the dance room she tells you that the upfront cost was just for the room and if I want her to do anything other than a fully-dressed air dance I have to "tip" her extra upfront. At that point I told her just to do the air dance just to piss her off. Later I took another girl back and she was great and never asked for a tip or for any money up front. We did a whole bunch of dances while the first girl just sat around without any customers. Where do these girls get the idea that such crap earns them money? It cost her a bundle that night but it worked out well for me because I ended up meeting a girl I really liked and who was really great.

Train: That can happen in other clubs, too. The dancer can overcount and have a bouncer who sides with her, even if he's not assigned to keep track. It's probably a sign of a rip off club that's best avoided. In a decent club, any stripper who pulls that shit will be resented by the other girls, like in the situation Dan describes.

Thanks, Huge. Let's hope it doesn't become necessary for you. I know it's usually safe to call their bluff, because I've heard so many honest dancers complain how management never backs them up when a customer cheats them. Sad but true in their case.

I'm with you in not liking to make too much of the running song count. It kills the mood. But, I do always go one song at a time, so she has to ask each time if I want her to continue, and that probably helps keep our counts square. Still, I usually say something like, "This will be five, right?" once it gets that far.

The clubs I frequent have a staff member keeping track of the number of dances in the VIP. So, if the dancer and I disagree, she just asks the guy who's keeping track. There has only been one time when I know both the dancer and the staff guy lied. But I didn't have any recourse. I stopped getting dances from her. Next time I went in and she asked me for a dance, I told her no and why. Then I told her that it was a shame that she missed out on any dances from me in the future over $75. She had that "I've been busted" look.

The closest I ever got to being in a fight with a dancer was over this issue. She told me it was for 5 and I told her I thought it was 4. She was acting like I was ungrateful and was very loud. Finally, the bouncer watching over the VIP comes over and asks what my problem was. I told him and he agreed with me. One of my favorites comes up to me after I sit down at my table and thanks me for standing up to that ripoff bitch.

chandler -----I believe I should've done what you wrote about that you had done. I'll handle it differently in the future. I don't like paying as I go or keep a running amount. I haven't been burned before but it's obvious I was opening myself up to juss such a possibility.

Huge, are you saying you paid her because you thought she would appeal to a manager? I seriously doubt that, unless it's an out-and-out clip joint. I would have called her bluff. Any stripper who tries to overcharge that blatantly has probably acquired a reputation for it.

I know I've lost count and usually trusted my ATF to keep track. When I've asked, at the end of the session, "How many was that?" There were times when her answer seemed like one or two dances on the 'high' side. And that got me thinking, I was having such a good time, that I over-indulged. Or, she was scamming a little. But, then I wasn't keeping track, so there was no one to blame except me.

I WAS keeping track and it was juss a bummer that someone would pretty much juss smash a financial transaction and lose dignity over such a piddling amount. I don't drink so alcoholic impairment isn't a factor.

I had three VIPs on different club visits with an older, but still attractive, stripper who gave very high mileage dances, but she routinely added a dance to the total count. Because of the high mileage, I was able to forgive that on the first two sets. However, with the second, I decided that the mileage just didn't compensate for the additional cost.

I've even had faves get the count wrong, usually by just one song, and low as often as high. I correct them if they're undercounting, and I might tell them if I think they're overcounting, but if if she insists, I accept it and forget about it. I wouldn't forgive her if it became a pattern, but it never has. Nobody's perfect.

A couple of times, I've had bitches try to rip me off by two or more songs. I've told them I knew the score and paid them what I actually owed, and that was the end ot it. Most clubs will side with the customer unless he's obviously the one trying to cheat. There's no need to get overwrought and leave the club.

Literally. I was getting vips, paid for them and returned to the bar. I finished the current drink in about 20 minutes and decided to hang for another one. Reached for my wallet and it was one. Yep, I left it in the vip. Started to return to look for it and the manager stopped me I explained about the wallet and he said I think i have it in the office. Sure enough it was there with all the IDs and credit cards but missing $350 (which included $100 hidden in a compartment). Supposedly a dancer took it to the mgr after a customer found it, riffled through it and left it on the floor. Didnt know who to blame other than myself and was fortunate the IDs and such were intact.

I was in Saphires in Las Vegas in January. I was sitting at a table when a dancer who was not all that attractive and had B.O. was hassling me for dances. She sat on my lap and I chased her off. Since I got my money from an ATM at the Stardust I had a couple of $100 one was mixed in with my ones. Well, when I went to buy a drink the $100 was gone. I complained to the Mgr. He questioned the girl who denied it and said she was not the only one to sit with me. The mgr. who was actually a G.M. or something was going to to do nothing for me. I guilted him into buying me a drink. He said come back tomorrow and he would take care of me. Yeah right !

I've never had that happen. I always keep track of how many and my count has always been the same as the girl's. If I'm getting multiple dances I usually ask how many we've done after every song or two so I know we have the same estimate. If anyone ever overestimated I'd quit right then and there and leave. I have been in clubs where the songs run together and it's hard to know when one stops and the next starts, maybe that happened in your case.

Train: I'm just saying that when a staff guy lies, too, you'd have to wonder about the club, unless you knew otherwise. Whatever happened with him?