How to stand out from BOTH the duchbags and PL's in a Club?
mjx01
Aspiring Global Hound
Ok, another one primarily aimed at our dancer friends...
I've been thinking about this for awhile and Rod's comments on the "How to pick up a stripper" post made me think about this some more. What does it really take to stand out from the duchbag treat a stripper like crap guys and ALSO the pussy wipped PL's?
Now, the being respectful and genuinely talking to a dancer about something are obvious requirements to not being in the duchbag category, but that's only have of the 'equation' so to speak (sorry another nerd moment). You also don't want to be a PL/regular/ATM guy and you don't want to be the dull/foregetable guy. What does a guy do to truly stand out in a dancer's mind?
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I've been thinking about this for awhile and Rod's comments on the "How to pick up a stripper" post made me think about this some more. What does it really take to stand out from the duchbag treat a stripper like crap guys and ALSO the pussy wipped PL's?
Now, the being respectful and genuinely talking to a dancer about something are obvious requirements to not being in the duchbag category, but that's only have of the 'equation' so to speak (sorry another nerd moment). You also don't want to be a PL/regular/ATM guy and you don't want to be the dull/foregetable guy. What does a guy do to truly stand out in a dancer's mind?
PM me it you perfer. Thanks.
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But if you TRULY believe that Dancers DON'T deserve to be treated with courtesy & respect, then treat them the way YOU believe that they deserve to be treated & see what happens.
I have been told many times by the dancers that they went out with me beacuse I didn't treat them as a stripper, but as a person.
That's only going to work with those who want to be treated as people and want to treat customers as people. Many (most) of them do not. But, yeah, if you find one that does then treat her that way. Not going to happen very often though. You have been warned.
Also many dancers who say customers are not treating them respectfully are projecting and/or actively seeking out "disrespectful" reaction through their own behavior (to confirm to themselves prejudices they have in mind about how the world is).
It's just the opposite of how I feel and talk about dancers. The six or so good girls I keep in contact with overshadow the four bad experiences I have had and the countless vultures and poor salesladies that approach me every time I enter a strip club. I say they are all good girls and I want to defend them from the pigs and mongers, when really, most probably aren't very good girls.
(You might complain about BAD Dancer behavior to the Club Manager...But he would have to give a shit for that to work in any way)
Personally, not being a jackass is the easy part, but I feel like I then automatically wind up in the PL category. Maybe my question should have been: how not to be a PL without falling into the duchbag category???
Use the old adage you heard in middleshool of 'just be yourself' -- which I never understood, since I felt like I should be rich and athletic to score chicks -- but some girls, especially in this business, appreciate honesty, which is what that gives you.Â
So when you approach a dancer, be *real*, meaning acknowledge the business as a fantasy, what she does, how she does it, what *you* do, what you're interested in (outside of clubbing), and clubbing, admit you're a horney devil! Why else would you be there?!? You're not a social worker or a cop? You're a horney red-blooded American in a titty bar! (don't over do this with details or panting, or anything, just own up to it) But the point is to have a natural conversation as you would with any other girl at her job, be it a bartender, waitress, Â etc...
Then, when she gets on stage or gets in your lap, go into fantasy mode! Forget the club and the world around you, it's just you and her. You are paying for a service, to turn you on, and now is the time, so let her do it! Enjoy what she doe as an artisan, as you would a stylist cutting your hair or a tailor hemming your suit, only this job is far more personal.
And when it's over, go back to reality mode, thank her for her time (in less sterile words), ask for her number, and if you feel there was some chemistry (outside the dancing) then go ahead pursue something else!
A PL can't distinguish Fantasy from reality and a DB just treats them like they are the service they provide. So being real, and not worrying about it, steers you clear of those to roles.
But you don't have to take my word for it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgM3r8xKf…
That's my advice for young guys. Older men have it down pat for the most part. :D
Also, don't say 'spend money' for us it's the equivalent to hearing 'tits and ass'. Although, I've had some fun conversations with catty dancers talking about the other dancers tots and ass. But you always have to end it with 'but I like yours better.' which can sometimes be a lie.
I spend about 50-75% of my time in a club 'hanging out , getting drunk, and only going to a stage to tip when there's a dancer I like. Especially, now I have a dancer I wait for. I don't care for and would prefer dancers not approach me, but they do. I admit it was pretty rough the first few times I went to my current club. But soon I became a familiar face and most knew 'oh hey, he's here to see <blank>, <blank>, and <blank>.' and they'd still come over to chat, see what's up, and let me know they'd get <blank> for me. These dancers, I make a point to tip more when I see them on stage. But, for the most part I want to spend the majority of my time with whom I think are the best in the club. Below that is just a curiosity dance or two. Below that is just being polite, tipping, drinks, below that are the vultures and drunk hags I have to beat off with a stick!
*I guess if you put words between <'s they don't show up
Also, your comment make alucard's post make sense.
I figure I'm a PL becasue (ex?)ATF had me convinced for some time that she liked me as more than a customer.
Perhaps I need to re try this post with a better explaination??