There is only one sure fire location, and that is Tijuana. Stay in San Diego. Enjoy the relatively warm weather. At night, take a short drive to the border, park, walk across, and take a cab to either Adelitas or Hong Kong. Spend no more than $100 per night, and get whatever you want with a good looking girl.

Crazy Horse during the day. Ask for Tifanny... nice Asian piece of arse.

Much as I would like to help the local economy and recommend LA/COI I would have to agree with harrydave since you will likely get three BBBJs in TJ for what one will cost in the COI.

But you don't have to get a car. Take the trolley to San Ysidro, walk across, and get a cab. The only potential hitch is that the last trolley north leaves at 12:59 am.

Airplane tickets between Seattle and San Diego between Christmas and New Years are going to be more expensive than usual this year because of the Holiday Bowl.

SCs in Vancouver BC are a complete waste.

Nothing that you want is available ITC in Vancouver. OTC is easily arranged at No. 5 Orange. Massage Parlours are the way to go in Vancouver ($200 or so for the full meal deal).

Thanks for the feedback so far. To be clear, I'm looking for ITC BBBJ, as there's nothing hotter for me at times then rolling into a club, getting in the mood by watching the stage show and glances back at the "bobblehead room", then picking out a hottie, and have her suck me dry (bbbjtc, don't care about spit/swallow). Rinse, repeat. I can get decent outcall escorts here in the Seattle area, but it's the UHM club atmosphere I want.

To be clear, I refuse to fly outside of an emergency, so the west coast limitation is "where can I go by train", which takes out cities like Detroit or Houston or Tampa, which apparently have these kinds of clubs.

I'd even drop a little more coin for the experience- i.e., if MBOT has smoking hotties giving BBBJTC but for 200/250, I'd still consider it because it's a treat to myself: getting ~10 BBBJs from pornstar caliber women over 2-3 days would be a he'll of a vacation and Christmas gift to myself! :)

I'm a little wary of TJ, and of whether BBBJ is offered and if I'd even want it. Maybe it's unjustified, but the whole thing seems sketchy to me, more so than a SF or LA club.

Afraid to fly? It's safer than a BBBJ and you won't piss the people off at Boeing Field.

All the gold... and the guns... and the girls... in the world... couldn't get you off.

sc: maybe he doesn't like to be groped/scanned by security guards at the airport and is protesting. Maybe if enough people protest they can hire some pretty young strippers to do the groping and work for tips.

most strippers would probably fail the background checks they do to hire the security.

Sounds like San Francisco would be the best place for you to go for ITC BBBJ unless you like hispanic dancers, then Tijuana would be better.

Thanks guys- I think SF sounds like the best bet, as it's a cool city, it's a day's train ride away, and there are a few clubs that will have BBBJ hotties. TJ is probably a lot cheaper, so I'll spend time reading the TJ club reviews to see if it's worth the extra distance.

shadowcat & Dougster: yes, it's a protest thing (and BBBJ isn't dangerous, but even if it were it's a free choice danger I undertake as a free individual). Sorry to get all political, but fer chrissakes... I put up with the shoes off bullshit, I even put up with the throwing away my toothpaste. But the pornoscanners and the groping? No, not unless I have to travel for a) a death in the family or b) am absolutely required to fly for business. Otherwise, fuck this stupid country eroding its rights, and fuck the government and the TSA for doing it. It doesn't make us safer, but it makes it easier for us to slip into police-state like behavior. America's not a dictatorship, but if any did decide to flip that switch they'd find the heat was on and the fridge was full.

Someone recently reminded me of this line from the 1990 movie, "Hunt for Red October":

Capt. Vasili Borodin: I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me. And I will have a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state. Do they let you do that? Captain Ramius: I suppose. Capt. Vasili Borodin: No papers? Captain Ramius: No papers, state to state. Capt. Vasili Borodin: Well then, in winter I will live in... Arizona. Actually, I think I will need two wives. Captain Ramius: Oh, at least.

Hard to believe that 20 years ago we were laughing about how silly Russian restrictions on freedom were.

Personally, I'd have them tie me down to a seat and ride the plane to Detroit. Protein recycling at Bogart's and Henry's South can be as cheap as $20 per song (yeah, it was the upsell on $10 dance day at Henry's South before the booths were installed in VIP... it was a pretty good-looking gal too!)

Otherwise, Art's call on a Vancouver massage parlour sounds like the way to go. Just don't tell the Canadian border guards you got into Mexico on just a driver's license -- my friend did when we were standing at the counter two years ago, drawing a loud reply "This isn't Mexico!" Every Mountie in the office looked up to see who the arrogant Americans were. Thankfully we escaped a full body cavity search.

San Francisco has the clubs but it will cost. A lot. And then there's MBOT where it will cost a lot more than a lot.

Vegas? Sheesh. But if you go to Vegas Rick's, please let us know how it is as we can actually short RICK stock and earn lap dance money.

Portland? I'd interpret Greg Oden taking a shot of himself full nude as a cry for help with regards to PDX strip clubs. 50+ strip joints all featuring low mileage.

Has the former Seattle Rick's (of the Carlucio empire) been converted to a Muslim house of wroship yet? I have a bet riding with a friend thta's what becomes of the place. They'll probably keep the condom machine in the bathroom...

Swedish touch MP was to reopen this past weekend.1 floor below Brady's strip Club one stop shopping.

Well if you are taking a train, then you might as well rent a car in LA and drive to COI. Yes, COI is a pit, but you just want to get BJs in a strip club so what do you care what the world outside looks like? You'll get EXACTLY what you want there.

Thanks again for all your advise, guys, this is super helpful.

CTQWERTY, I'd consider Detroit (or Houston) for the unbelievable stories, but something like this that you even wrote is what keeps me away: tuscl.net

Even though samsung1 chimed in to say "Holly Hood" has not only a super high mileage scene, but some really hot chicks... it sounds like Detroit is increasingly dying as a city, and I just don't see myself going there.

SF or COI sound like the best bets in terms of hotties + BBBJ; the downside to COI/LA is that everything is so spread out, so it'd be a lot of driving around. SF I can see myself having something to do in between long afternoons/nights at the club. I really, truly don't mind spending ~200 or so for a great BBBJ from a smokin' hot girl. I'd rather do that and drop a couple of thou on a hell of a Christmas present to myself, than to end up in some other city and be disappointed with the club scene and bored/scared of the city itself. It's, uh, also easier to explain to friends, etc, why I'm taking a trip to SF than it is to explain a trip to Detroit or Houston.

So, with SF as my likely winner, SF veterans: is SFredbook.com the best resource, or here, or what, to find the highest mileage, best times, and best dancers (or more importantly, who to avoid as a ROB)?

In Seattle there are only three places that are not "HUstle" clubs which are cameraed everywhere. They are Centerfolds(hit and miss. afternnons are WAY better than the night crew, see Adrienne or Renee) The Sands can be fun if you find the right dancer, and Dancing Bare ( all open private area with high lighting) In San Francisco I heard from locals when I was down there recently that Mitchell Bros. O'Farrel Theater has anything you want available for a price and they rent "bungalows"= curtained area with a bed and sink. but is very expensive look up on tuscl. You could always go to Inkster or Southgate MI.

If you make it to LA, I agree, going to the clubs way out there takes time, but I do recommend the Flamingo Theater in Anaheim. It isn't that far away from there to Hawaii Theatre, which I haven't visited, but from all reports, it is pretty good also.

Detroit has had problems for awhile. Population was once 2,000,000 but is now 700,000. While parts of the city have reverted to open land, the suburbs are alive and well. I've never had a problem with street crime and/or violence while there.

SoCal seems spread out but if you time your drives to avoid traffic then trips to COI aren't that far - probably the same or closer to LAX than Anaheim (40 minutes to either one). Anaheim to COI is probably 20 minutes. However there's nothing ELSE out in COI.

In San Diego, the best clubs are probably out by Miramar, so it's no different. If there's a downtown club worth visiting, I'd love to know right now. I take the train there all the time.

While on business at Torrance, I have stayed in the Redondo Beach Area and enjoyed Strippers from Spearmint Rhino. It usually takes about 3 bills to get one otc though and many of them don't work otc. A better alternative was an escort that came over for $200. This is a bargain in Cali. I offered a cute college girl $100 for sex at a local eatery but when she started yelling "Dad, Dad" at a rather burly fellow at the bar I decided I would order elsewhere.

I would focus on TJ they have a club called Hong Kong that is most like a US SC. You can get anything you want in the club at a per dance rate or you can take the girl of your choice upstairs for about $60 per 1/2 hour and about $16 for the room. And as stated prior you do not need a car, take the trolly to the border then take a cab to the zona for $5 each way. There are three other clubs next door to Hong Kong that provide somewhat of US SC services. There is a geat blog site "tjamigos.com" that will give you an inside vision. Enjoy and travel safe

"Just don't tell the Canadian border guards you got into Mexico on just a driver's license -- my friend did when we were standing at the counter two years ago, drawing a loud reply 'This isn't Mexico!'"

Actually, you can get back & forth into Canada (and Mexico) by car, train or boat with just an enhanced U.S. driver's license, which is available in several border states. I still like my old U.S. passport though, complete with no RFID chip, yet.

Seattle, as long as the club isn't owned by Deja Vu, you will have fun.

^^^ Hey, wait a minute here! When I used to say that Seattle was a decent city for getting extras the RickyBoyDugan said I didn't know what I was talking about. Said it was proof that I didn't go to any strip clubs there. I guess now that someone is agreeing with my assessment he is going to have to find a way to first deny he said it the place, and then try and tap dance his way out of it after that. Too funny!

Yep, that's the standard RickyBoy pattern. Unless there is absolutely no other option, do anything to avoid owning up to what he said in the past and admitting that he was wrong. Is quite comical to watch!

Thread is 3 yrs. old. So, how did your vacation go, Ricks Fan?