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As if Detroit didn't have enough problems

SuperDude
Detroit, Michigan
The Detroit City Council is 7 women and 2 men. All of the women are "community activists" or social workers. Here's what they want to do.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090616/…

18 comments

  • Philip A. Stein
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    15 years ago
    Don't worry, they will all be indited soon. Corruption is a cottage industry in 313
  • steve229
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    15 years ago
    Oh man - guess jablake was right about that whole government causing bad dances thing
  • Officer
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    15 years ago
    won't everyone just go to Windsor, Canada instead if this goes through???
  • jablake
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    15 years ago
    Hi SuperDude,

    I hate to say it, but maybe the city council is right depending on how one views the proper role of government.

    Also, do the stripclubs provide a substantial or any net economic benefit? Here in Miami some of the clubs that I love are "shooting galleries" where not only can people end up going to Heaven quicker, but more importantly may end crippled and permanent drains of resources. Just a few crumbs for thought.

    I can easily see where some people would equate stripclubs with "domestic terrorism" because innocent people get killed and the drug trade is also usually involved. Add semi-automatic firearms and heck not only should the government close the stripclubs, but dropping bombs and sending in troops might seem appropriate.

  • Philip A. Stein
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    15 years ago
    The only strip club shooting I can think of in the last 5 years was in Grand Rapids, the opposite side of the state from Detroit. While Detroit may shut down their clubs, there are just as many in the burbs. For instance, Flight Club, Penthouse and Play House are well outside Detroit's jurisdiction.

    All the Detroit laws are going to do is decrease tax revenue for Detroit and increase the profitability of outlaying clubs.
  • jablake
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    15 years ago
    "The only strip club shooting I can think of in the last 5 years was in Grand Rapids, the opposite side of the state from Detroit."

    OK. Let's not allow facts to encroach on the domestic terrorism angle. :)
  • jablake
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    15 years ago
    http://www.detnews.com/article/20090610/…

    Yes!!! The domestic terrorism angle is ALIVE and WELL. :) Checkout this snippet from a newspaper report:

    "Male dancer injured in strip club shooting
    Santiago Esparza / The Detroit News

    Detroit -- Investigators are trying to sort through an early morning fight that occurred in a west-side strip club, leaving a male dancer in temporary serious condition at an area hospital after an officer shot him. . . . "

  • deogol
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    15 years ago
    Funny how convenience stores operating at night packed full of booze attract all sorts of crime however strip clubs are deemed a horrible concentrator of crime.
  • Philip A. Stein
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    15 years ago
    Jablake, did you read the whole story? It was a cop that shot the male dance. Does that really count?

    A fight broke out in Henry's Palace, on Fenkell Street near Livernois Avenue, between two dancers and spilled outside the club, Detroit police spokeswoman Yvette Walker said.

    Police responded to the scene, and one of the officers fired one shot, striking a dancer, Walker said. She believed the man was shot in a shoulder.
  • robofan
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    15 years ago
    The city council already passed the no lap dance and dancers can't come within 6 feet of any customer rule. That happened when Kwame was first elected he just chose not to enforce it. The problem that the city council has is they have no authority to enforce anything. The mayor and chief of police have to agree with whatever they pass or it is meaningless. To me this is just another attempt to extort more money out of bar owners. They do this every 3 or 4 years and nothing ever seems to change.

    It also seems that whenever the Federal Government start investigating the city council they suddenly all get religion and spout off about cleaning up the city. Soon about half of them will be in jail or under inditement and all of this will go away.

  • bumrubber
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    15 years ago
    "All the Detroit laws are going to do is decrease tax revenue for Detroit and increase the profitability of outlaying clubs."

    Strip clubs pay taxes? :-)
  • jablake
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    15 years ago
    "Jablake, did you read the whole story? It was a cop that shot the male dance. Does that really count?"

    Not only do I enjoy engaging in the prolix, but to peruse. As I'd said previously in essence, facts just get in the way. :) Besides when googling I noted at least one other stripclub shooting story, but didn't peruse it because it might have lended legitimacy to the domestic terrorism angle i.e. ruin the humour. :)
  • jablake
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    15 years ago
    "Funny how convenience stores operating at night packed full of booze attract all sorts of crime however strip clubs are deemed a horrible concentrator of crime."

    Ah yes, another nexus of domestic terrorism government need quash. :)
  • jablake
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    15 years ago
    BTW, the first sentence of the story states: "an officer shot him."
  • SuperDude
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    15 years ago
    It seems to me that shootings at strip clubs are not higher than shootings at other entertainment venues in this crime-ridden city. A strip club shooting gets more media attention than shootings in bars, restaurants or casinos that are protected by the Detroit establishment. Yes, I have no proof of this, just a feeling. SC's are easy to pick on. And the threat of "reform" does lead to increases in bribes to keep business as usual. I believe that the casino investors would like to kill the SC's and then force a relocation of the dancers to new clubs inside the casinos, which are now hurting for revenue.
  • txtittyfan
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    15 years ago
    Ah yes, the SC is a den of crime theory. In Houston they have basically a sin tax being fought in the courts to fund among other things victims of sexual abuse.

    Seems to me, there have been more sex crime in the Catholic church than strip clubs.
  • jablake
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    15 years ago

    Detroit needs to try an apply sexual harassment laws against the stripclubs----I don't think an employee is allowed to consent to sexual harassment e.g. extra pay for extra services. These poor strippers are just as victimized as the secretary who trades sexual favors for benefits.
  • casualguy
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    15 years ago
    I might question how many people attend strip clubs in Detroit and how many people voted for city council members? If a lot more people attended strip clubs, it seems like they could vote out of office all those opposed and pretty much run the city. They could probably pick up a number of male voters as well and have a more balanced city council. They just need to get active and pick people to run and take over the city away from all the social workers. If you ignore politics, it comes back to bite you unless there are enough sensible people voting.
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