How long do you know a dancer before OTC?

On second contact, ask how she feels about OTC-guage her response. If she doesn't freak, ask on third contact about OTC at a neutral site like a local hotel (never ever take a dancer home, ever).

Local restaurant? It's an opening to see what she wants, nothing more.

I'm one who believes they either do it or they don't and there is no "courtship" or "liking" to it. Thus bringing it up the first meeting is fine, but typically I won't try and seal the deal until the second or at latest the third meeting.

As for the restaurant, it's possible that she suddenly developed an addiction and needs to turn tricks to pay for it. Mostly likely though she is just going to try and hustle you for money but not put out.

I'd say at least a month and probably longer. I'm not in a rush. Some of these women are as wacked out as the customers. :)

Dancers I've met OTC I got to know for at least a few months before suggesting anything, and that was after I became a good spending regular of theirs. One particularly shy gal took me close to a year before it happened, and in that case she was the one who initiated it. Most of the others I did the initiating. Some did it for money, some did it for kicks. Ya gotta love the "curious" ones!

Steve, I wouldn't take the after work restaurant to suggest anything more. In my experience, strippers aren't much for being coy and dropping hints. If they want to hook up, they're direct and blunt. If anything, it sounds to me more like typical SS.

Damcers are good at suggesting dinner. You think this is going somewhere, but she needs a free meal at a nice restaurant to break the monotony of fast food alone or with her deadbeat boyfriend. At the risk of blowing the whole deal, just ask if dinner is just dinner or are we going to have a fun dessert?

The ones I've met OTC are the bimbos who give their price list the day I meet them. The one I had to build up to took about a year, part of which was spent finding out which club she moved on to after leaving the club I first met her at.

if the girl is asking OTC within 1 minute of your first LD with her, am thinking the girl's an escort.

When it fees comfortable. If you wonder, then it's not time. Sometimes these things begin with lunch, then lead to dinner. Sometimes it ends there. Sometimes not.

My philosophy is life is too short to hang around. I ask as soon as I think i'll get a positive reply or i'm so crazy about a particular girl whose hips I want to put out.

My big fear with OTC is that the reality won't match up with the fantasy I've created in my head. I keep thinking about the Seinfeld episode where the girl Jerry is dating looks great in one kind of light and hideous in another light. I'm afraid it would be something similar with a dancer outside the club.

If that's your biggest concern with OTC then go for it. You can always turn the lights off...

I've never asked, and the only OTC experiences were broached by the woman.

Depends on the club. Thirty seconds is about my quickest conversion from "just got in the door" to "yes that's a good price for such-and-so pay-for-play services."