A tale of 2 ATFs…2.5

it gets me when a girl gets possessive. even worse than when a guy is possessive.

Yeah. I got jealous with ATF1 and that was my bad. Especially with the “work” these gals do. Lesson learned!! That was my first experience of this kind, and I’m sticking to it. Lol

I have never understood the ATF thing, especially the idea of having so many ATFs. As I understand it, the “AT” in ATF stands for “all time.” I think there is also a CF term that means “current favorite.’” So I have had some CF situations, and situations where I have a favorite in a certain club or a certain location. But I”d have a hard time picking one favorite from all of those that I have had. To me, calling a girl my ATF would mean that she surpassed all others. The problem with that, as I see it, is that I am probably not being honest with myself if I say that my current favorite surpasses all others, and that therefore, every time I change favorites it is the new best. But if I am honest and say that the girl I was seeing regularly five years ago was the ATF, but I have lost track of her, that’s a little depressing.

Thanks, Greanbeans. "Check your feelings" certainly is high on the 10 Commandments of mongering. Fortunately, this is not a concern for me. At my age (58), I've never had any delusions about beautiful, young gals having any romantic interest in me. Between HK ladies and Toronto-area escorts and massage parlor attendants, I've been with more than 50 ladies in the past five years and never had one iota of feelings for any of them. I treat them with respect, but ultimately, they are just a set of holes to me, and I am nothing but a cash dispenser to them. But I do understand how some can develop feelings for one of these ladies.

I have an ATF that fits newmark’s definition. Met her during my first visit to TJ. That was over six years ago and I TLN with her at least one night every visit. I visit TJ about every six weeks. Sometimes I will TLN with her two or three nights during a visit. We have also traveled overnight to other locations. It is more like a “friends with mutual benefits” situation. I simply enjoy her company. Exploring with her places that I would never find on my own. Enjoying different restaurants with her.

And every visit includes a “hunting” component where I try to find a puta who treats me as well as my ATF. So far there have been a few fine candidates, but none that lasted more than a few months. Something about not having any time limit and knowing well what each other likes is very appealing.

@newmark - that’s exactly it! Atf1 & 2 surpassed the others, by far. I too was not a believer of ATFs. Till i was. Now the umm, interactions at HK or anywhere, for that matter, are ok. So much so that i wasn’t able to terminate my transactions, 3x at Hk. That’s a first for me.

@JAprufrock I appreciate the feedback. And agree for the most part. BUT, With ATF1 (welp, previous ATF1) I couldn’t give my money to her. Trust me i tried. Every time I tried, i got the stare… u know, disapproving eyes and her voice: “I don’t want your money! Im here because i like you!” Even this last time i had dinner with her in her hometown in Jalisco. She accepted my gifts, but refused to take cash. I learned with her, via our ‘breakup’ to not catch feelings. ATF2 while in Jalisco (same trip), she actually bought me lunch and a michelada, grabbed a couple of Ubers for us and was my tour guide. gave her some cash, but out of our time together, including a couple trips to S. America, she has never asked for $$. I have even asked her, but nope just pay for her ticket and expenses while together. When i gave her $$. I had to tell her “for your mom’s medical expenses and i want you to buy something nice for you”. She is currently in Baja CA with a customer. He is giving her $3500 for 7 days. We spoke 2 days ago. I told her get it! Good on you!

@PT as always…. U da MAN! I “hunted” this ladt trip but not to fruitful. Will try again when we hang out. Maybe you’ll be my good luck charm. I think i need to find a CF chica. As my # 1 is platonic - u know all the lil details. Snd #2 is a bit distant. Mom being very sick and desperate yo make $.

Time for happy hour!!

dang. I feel old. then my memory fails me on some of these individual girls. but it is a nice, wonderful blur!

scratch out the word 'then'.

@greenbeans sounds like you are having an interesting time, good for you.

The mongering experience allows us to grow and learn about what we want and how to get it, at the sane time paying a price for those lessons.

How did you meas up with ATF1? Did you develop feelings? Did you lose (mis place) her? Jk.

It is normal to have feelings for these chicas, the problem is when we let those feelings dictate our decisions and actions, especially when almost none of these chicas are relationship material even if they leave the club.

You can take the BG out of the club but you cannot take the club out of the BG.

Solo mis dos centavos.

PS: "puta logic" that is the ultimate misnomer, along with "woman logic"

@Cristobal 🤦🏽‍♂️ i did NOT misplace her 😂. Long story short, caught feelings. On our last night together my jealousy came to the forefront. There’s more but not trying to put all that on here.

Update: ATF1 asked me to stop texting cuz “there’s no point in being ‘friends’. We are just going to end up hurting each other”. Haven’t text her in many days. So no more ATF1 (currently not working at HK anymore) ATF2 and I reconnected 2 days ago with a TLN (had her with me instead of starting work at HK) and her first day back at HK was yesterday. Might do another trip to a resort in Jan with her ATF2.5 keeps texting. I reply but not that attracted to her