Do's and don't's if you hook-up with dancers outside of the club (OTC)?

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Sammy63
YMMV
Covid created an unusual dynamic at strip clubs. Dancers who would normally not give you the time of day started offering to give you their phone number to get together outside of the club (OTC). There are many things to consider before hooking up with a dancer OTC. I have done it many times, and here are a few do's and don't's.

A few don'ts
1. Never invite a dancer to hook up with you at your home.
If things don't work out between you, she might stalk you or threaten to show up at your home at an inopportune
time. It is safest to get a hotel room at a hotel where you are not likely to be recognized by anyone you know.

2. If you get a hotel room in a hotel that offers room service, never let the dancer spend the night in the room without you. In other words, don't just fuck her and go and leave the room to her.
If she is in the room after you have left, she can order room service you are not aware of. This happened to me
once. The dancer ordered $100 in room service after I had left and gone home. Another dancer smoked in the room
after I left and I got a $250 charge on my bill because it was a non-smoking room.
3. Unless you don't care about money, don't show up without a clear understanding of how much you are paying for what you
want to do. For example, if you want to fuck raw, some dancers charge more for that, if they will be comfortable
doing it at all.
Is she expecting a tip? Does she expect you to pay for her Uber to get to the hotel and back home? You get the
idea.

4. If you are hooking up at the dancer's house, never, never, never spend the night with her.
You never know if she has a boyfriend or a girlfriend, an ex or relatives who might just show up at her place
while you are sleeping there. No good would come from that.

A few do's
1. If a dancer agrees to hook up with you OTC, be respectful and on time. Dancers are people too, and deserve to be treated with care, especially since they are going to share their body with you...a total stranger.

2. Confirm how the dancer wants to be paid....cash, venmo, cashapp. No brainer, right?

3. If you hook up with her at her house, treat her place with respect too. Don't throw your used condom on the floor or
do anything else to her home you would not do to yours.

4. If you are hooking up at her place, check out the neighborhood a day or two in advance of your date. You want to know what the neighborhood is like and if you will feel safe there.

Final thoughts
Hooking up OTC is my preferred way to spend any considerable time with a dancer. Most clubs are dirty, and it is questionable what is on the furniture in the lap dance room you might be using. I have had FS in clubs, but I always prefer to take the time to hook up with a dancer away from the club if we are going to do more than just a quickie. The dancer gets to keep all of the money (she doesn't have to give the club a fee). You have more faith the surroundings are clean. And there is not a clock ticking, distracting you from taking your time to enjoy the dancer of your choice. YMMV

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ulitimate1
2 years ago
Are you guys finding that this recession leads to more OTC offers? I've gotten way more in the last couple of months than I have in the last few years.
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wallanon
2 years ago
"Don't throw your used condom on the floor or
do anything else to her home you would not do to yours."

What if I throw used rubbers on the floor at my place?
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DH721
2 years ago
I ask if how long she plans to stay. I have had a few that made me feel like they just wanted to get it over with then get out. My favorites usually give me about 3 hours, just about the right amount of time to keep from feeling rushed.
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dopey468
2 years ago
Try not to pay/tipi advance at the club.
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Jascoi
2 years ago
better yet. DON'T pay in advance... ESPECIALLY for OTC at the club.
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Jascoi
2 years ago
that was a newbie mistake I made with a very expensive lesson involved.
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Thick-5-Incher
2 years ago
I think the most important thing to keep in mind is that dancers don't need to meet you at a hotel. They make enough money at the club doing normal stripper stuff to pay their bills. The only reason a dancer would meet you at your hotel for sex is that you're willing to put up serious money and she has built up enough trust in you to know you'll pay the premium price and you're not a creep who will rat her out to the police or to her employer, since hooking is a fireable offense for a dancer.

I've had a few OTC encounters and my usual MO is to pay a LOT for the initial encounter, usually 400 or 500 for an hour depending on the quality of the girl. I've actually had BJ only dates at my hotel but those were with average-looking girls at skanky clubs and they were desperate for the extra money. The bottom line is that any girl will feel more comfortable seeing you at a hotel for sex if you are just an average boring dude who wants average boring sex. On the first encounter, don't be asking for ream her asshole wide open or ramming your cock balls-deep in her throat and demanding she swallow every drop like a filthy whore! If you are lucky enough that she trusts you, then you can slowly ask for more sexually adventurous stuff like cum-in-mouth and bareback sex if you are willing to pay her prices. But she NEEDS to feel safe with you first before she entertains the kinkier stuff. The majority of dancers prefer to be seen as female entertainers and not dirty hookers, do don't be pushy and make them feel like cheap hoes or else they won't answer your texts. But if you take things slow and ALWAYS pay the premium and tip well, then it's very possible to be enjoying sex with some of the sexiest strippers at the club! Patience and perseverance are the key words.
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Sgrayeff
2 years ago
I think you overcomplicate this. Money is the motivator. Venue and all the other stuff are just details. I have been consistently surprised by the willingness of certain dancers to oblige my OTC requests. And for less than I would have guessed (or you quoted). Not all. But enough to make my dick happy. Good luck to all.
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tin man
2 years ago
Always negotiate the price. Stop paying escort prices for strippers, that is not a smart decision.
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Maximust
2 years ago
While I prefer OTCs vs clubs, OTC can be addictive and expensive. I got hooked on a dancer which evolved into OTC adventures including dinners. She was definitely worth it but got way too pricey so had to pare back to just clubs. Will return when I hit the lotto.
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PutaTester
2 years ago
I have had very different experiences. Often I get TLN OTC for the low-ball price charged by most escorts. And the club putas usually hang out much longer than the escorts. Recently I had a Adelita puta come to my hotel room at 6:00 pm and stay until noon the next day for $500 plus dinner and breakfast. Multiple sessions and multiple acts included. Check the escort sites and they will often advertise eight hours for $400-$500. If you are paying more, there is something wrong with your approach.

I prefer the club girls, not because I need to be vetted by them, but because I want to vet them before making an OTC connection. Had a HK puta offer TLN while we were riding up in the elevator for our first session.

That said, femicide is common in Mexico and recently several putas have been murdered, so the girls will be cautious.
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georgmicrodong
2 years ago
I've violated your "don't" #4 a fair few times. Only with my ATF and a couple of others I'd grown to trust though. In general though, this is all good advice.
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Dolfan
2 years ago
#1 - The vast majority of my OTC is at my home. I've never had a problem. I'd reword this as think carefully before bringing a stripper home. For me, in my situation and the girls I bring home, it works. For others with different home situations and stripper selections, it may be a terrible idea.

#2 - I don't do very much OTC in a hotel, when I do its because I'm already at a hotel anyway. I'd agree that this is good advice. But why limit it to places that have room service? Just generically, leaving a random stripper in a hotel room unsupervised seems like trouble.

3 - I disagree. My MO is to get a generic agreement to meet up OTC and a price, but I never discuss specifics at all. Not duration, not activities, none of that. Maybe the one exception is discussion transportation details, but that's only if I'm doing it, either Ubering or driving her myself. Getting too caught up in the details seems like a way to ensure it's a very rigid transaction and kinda goes against your note later about them being people too. I play it by ear and let things happen naturally.

#4 - I've broken that rule quite a few times too. It's another one I'd reword as think about carefully. I've had some good times staying the night at a strippers place. For what its worth, I've let them stay at my place quite often too.

On your do list, I'd certainly agree with 1. #2 I'd never thought about, Cash is king and nothing else even gets considered. #3 I guess I never thought about either, I'd agree but am sad it needs to be said.

#4 I don't know how that would work? Do you ask the girl for her address and tell her that's what you're gonna do? Usually that level of detail is kinda a last minute thing from both sides. For me, the cases where I've gone to a strippers house are usually me giving her a ride home after work or picking her up/dropping her off for OTC at my place, the first time I'm there I'm not going inside. I guess maybe I've been doing that accidentally.

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Sammy63
2 years ago
Dolfan,
Thank you for your detailed comments. This article is just items that I do. To each his own, as they say.But I do appreciate you reading my article and taking the time to share your experience and thoughts with our fellow mongers.
YMMV
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Subraman
2 years ago
Good article. For me there's some conditionals:

1. I'd never invite a dancer for OTC at my home... the first time. After I've known her a while? Sure I will.

2. Dancers and hotel rooms. The rule is: don't let her spend the night without you. Has nothing to do with whether the hotel has room service. She could raid the minibar for hundreds, she could cause damage, I've read all kinds of after-action stories of dummies who have let their stripper or escort stay in the room that's under THEIR name, overnight. Here's even better guidance: unless this might turn into an overnight, use dayuse.com, if you get a 2pm-9pm room, well at 9pm, everyone gotta go!

3. How much details to work out in advance. Working out everything you said -- exactly the price, for exactly the sexual activities you want, etc. etc., which implies all discussed in detail in advance -- is not something I do, and I feel strongly that the BEST experiences happen when you don't discuss that. But that depends on how flexible you are. If you have exactly $400, and you MUST fuck her raw and then CIM or otherwise it will suck for you, then sure, you better work that out in advance. But if you're flexible about what might happen, best to go with the flow. Hell, with a stripper I vetted well at the club first, I've gone OTC without even working out price a couple of times, because I already knew I wasn't going to get gouged, and it worked out great. With a stripper who is more high-hustle or professional, sure, work out details -- but really, why not just skip those kinds of girls.

4. Staying over the dancer's place. Again, strongly agree the first few times you meet. After you know her well? Not a problem. I've told some stories about staying over my ATF's place, with her dancer roommates. Those are some life stories I am glad I have!!


And, in the bonus section, I never have confirmed how a dancer wants to be paid! If it's our very first time, I bring enough cash to cover, but am prepared to send by cashapp (and only cashapp) also. Never been a problem. After we've known each other a bit we'll figure out if we prefer a different way.
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drewcareypnw
2 years ago
Another reason to not leave a stripper in your room is that in wa state at least, if she decides to turn tricks out of there after you leave, and gets busted, you are on the hook for pimping.
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