Stripper Talent: Old Vs New

okay,

SJG

If not for 2 for 20 a few years ago I never would have bought my first dance.

Service and song length matter too

mdb, who's side are you on ? Of course we all want new girls coming in to undercut the cost. If there is limited supply, then our hobby becomes too costly for us mongers.

Front Room Makeout Sessions, then when it is time for your own pants to come down, you invite her to the back room.

Buying dances is a Chump's Game.

SJG

Pretty-much every club I've hit over the 100+ clubs I've visited (I clubbed for 10 years prior to joining TUSCL), the dance-price was set by the club and it was very rare for a dancer to offer a dance for less than the club price (once in a blue moon in a very slow club I may have a dancer offer me a 2-for-1 to entice me but it's def not the norm IME).

I like variety and prefer more dancers vs less dancers - it sucks when it's a sausage fest in a club - a club like that will likely lose my business altogether - I also like variety of types of women/dancers, thus the more dancers the better chance of having different types of dancers - I don't like clubs where most dancers look the same (e.g. skinny bleached-blonds w/ fake-tits) - I can understand the opposite of a sausage-fest being bad for dancers (i.e. more dancers than custies); but a happy medium can often be achieved.

Every club kinda has its M.O. as to how easy or hard it is for dancers to sell dances - IME clubs w/ lower dance costs (e.g. $10) I see more dances being sold, vs clubs w/ very high dance prices ($30 or $40) where it seems it takes a lot more effort to get custies to buy dances - i.e. I'm not totally convinced that higher dance prices necessarily lead to more $$$ for the dancers, but again not all clubs are the same but in general in clubs w/ lower-cost dances I notice dancers being constantly more busy selling dances - I know for myself if I"m in a $10/dance club I will not think too hard about trying a dancer I may be on the fence about, but in clubs w/ $20+ dances I am def more choosy about getting dances and I pull the trigger much less often and if on the fence about a dancer then more often than not I'll pass and save my $$$ for someone else or just go home w/ my $$$, vs giving more dancers a chance.

When I started clubbing VIP was 5 for 100 but when it was slow it wasn't unusual for girls to offer 5 for 80. Bumping it up to 6 for 100 was super common as well.

Years later it's still 5 for 100 buy discounting is much more rare, especially since single dances are nominally 20. Some dancers still grandfather in 2 for 20 for steady regulars.

i’m much more likely to buy a dance if it is priced $10 or perhaps two for 20 (especially for a nude dance.)

^^^^^^^^ Front Room Makeout Session.

Buying dances is a chump's game.

SJG

I remember the first time I got hired at a hustle club in Austin. The manager told me “dances are $20, do not overcharge.”

I remember the first time I got hired at a mid tier club in San Antonio. The manager told me “dances are $20, do not undercut.”

So I assume dancer behavior depends very much on the club culture. But one thing I’d like to point out, when you see that new girl talking to somebody you know is a creep—or when she’s doing something you consider cringeworthy, do you personally do anything to give her gentle constructive criticism? Steer her to nicer customers? Explain the “unwritten” rules of the club?

Nobody ever did that with me. And I’ve never done that with a new dancer.

I’d imagine it would be very possible to have influence on vulnerable new girls. But to do that you have to be actually concerned about their well-being rather than worried about them snatching your money. Do you have the leadership capability for that? I know I don’t.

I just looked into your profile, and you have posted on the discussion board before and flag has trolled you before :o So wait...you’re not a dancer then? From the time of the article, I assumed you were

*the tone of the article

Buying dances is a chump's game.

Front room makeout session.

SJG

Mdb2203 I agree with some of your points here. It's absolutely crappy for a girl to undercut prices drastically selling dances for $5. On the same token I think it's crappy for some dancers to try to charge $40/dance drastically overcharging. $5/dance is bad for the other dancers, but $40/dance in a place where 20/25 is the norm is a ripoff for the customer. That's why I prefer clubs with a set price for dances.

Also I know your history. Your club of choice is Pure Gold where your best friend and favorite dancer works. So I know when you post you're posting with her best interests at heart. Hence why you say 'guys leave the credit cards at home and bring cash'. You're not saying that because you're looking out for the guys to not got ripped off on their credit card. You're saying it because it's better for the girls to get tipped in cash plain and simple. You're saying for the new girls to accept the guidance of veteran dancers because your best friend/favorite is a veteran dancer. But how is that new girl supposed to know if this veteran dancer's advice is for her benefit, or more for the benefit of the veteran herself? We've heard from other dancers how competitive the job is so it must be tough for a new girl to be thrust into all that and know who to trust.

It sounds like the situation over at Pure Gold is you have an influx of new girls who are selling themselves short. Which sucks and they shouldn't but this article seems to only address a problem that happens in clubs where there is no set dance price. Which thankfully doesn't seem like the norm.

For the most part, every time a girl tells me she's been stripping for awhile, like over a year, she ends up giving much better dances. Newer girls often seem scared or nervous to me, though there's exceptions of course.

Price wise, occasionally a girl will offer a discount on each additional dance after the first one. Nothing that I think would qualify as undercutting. A few times girls have suggested I could get an expensive block of time instead of the per-song rate, or that I could add a cash tip (which doesn't bother me, I generally tip extra for good dances).

I definitely feel like more experienced girls know how to talk to guys and make them feel comfortable, or how to get me past any initial uncertainty.

Front Room Makeout Sessions, buying dances is a chump's game.

SJG