No Touch Club No Problem
GACA
Un-retired: Met my ATF. Married her. Divorcing her.
So I frequently work in a county where stripper can dance full nude on a table with a pole. There is a strict no touching policy because alcohol is also served. There are no private room no corners without cameras. Just a bar, and small tables sprawled around an already tiny joint.
I use tenets of the System "looking like a rich Gordon Gecco type" (white three piece not necessary but definitely helpful) I'll drop some coin for a few air dances so that the strippers know I'm worth investing some time into. $50 for two, in this particular small town hole in the wall that decent money.
Naturally the girl will sit with me. I usually sit at the bar here because it's close enough to the bar tender that she wouldn't suspect any "funny business" but high enough that she really can't tell what's going on from the chest down.
After two trips where I have tipped above average. Asked then what type of night its been (hint: it's always a shitty night). I tell them sorry to hear it let me give you massage for $20 bucks. No one says no to twenty and hardly say no to a massage. Start at the shoulders, play with the hair, move down to the back and ass.
Once I get to the ass they know what I'm doing (copping a major feel). I don't get any resistance from any one and all the other girls will say they want one too. So i pick another girl give massage. So now I'm known as massage guy.
The first time I don't usually push to see how far I can go. If she's comfortable enough to let me rub her belly and just under her boob I'm golden. Second time I'm rubbing her tits and just around the pantie line as part of her massage.
Established as a massage guy the no touching policy gets quickly overlooked. If a new bouncer arrives and doesn't know who I am, the bartenders usually get him straight. Because I'm at the bar drinking and tipping my bartenders as I'm giving massage.
On quieter nights I move to tables. Don't get me wrong there is no place to hide but it does let the girl play with angles more. The nights I'm ready to make my move I've already established I can touch pretty much anywhere I want except her pussy and this is the night I ask them "so what kinda night are we going to have?" The answer is usually a good one. Then I "so are you gonma get scared and put the breaks on?" I say this every time and nothing more, they all know what it means. I either get "don't make it obvious" or just "I'm not scared". Obviously the "im not scared" girls are the best.
In a no touch club I've fingered about 7 girls so far with that process. One has led to my now consistent OTC. And two more OTC offered. I usually finger at the bar as there is less suspension to what is going on. Tables are only good for hard core fingering where i again look like I'm just giving her a damn good massage.
Hope anyone at a no touch finds this useful
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Anyway, I'm lucky in that the no-touch clubs near me usually have high-back and high-sided comfy chairs to sit on, so I have no need for any ruses at the bar... once the stripper sits on my lap, I can put my hand underneath her tush between my leg and the high-backed chair, an no one can really see it. I've had my fingers in plenty of stripper pussies and assholes, something I could never pull off during our tightly-patrolled lapdances ... which is why I never do lapdances at these clubs.
The other part of my system, which many of you guys will hate, is: I make friends with everyone in the club, including the manager and bouncers. I realize that for many of you guys, "I'm there for the girls not for the bouncers", etc., and if that's how you feel, I totally get it and won't try to talk you out of it. For those who are willing to consider it, being on good terms with the manager and bouncer brings nothing but huge positive benefits to your SCing. Some of those guys are just douches through and through (I don't deal with guys like that), but the vast majority are actual people inside, and you would be surprised how little kindness it takes for them to remember you and give you some bouncer-style YMMV.
For me, I do this with a personal touch, I tend NOT to tip these guys -- I don't think it's a good precedent. But, I have conversations, and the fact is, I actually enjoy having a guy to talk sports with, or have a little "lockerroom talk" with. I'll also buy them shots occasionally. It's not uncommon that the bouncer or manager can be found hanging out at our table for stretches. Again, this is all organic -- I enjoy the interactions with these guys; if I came off insincere, my system might not work as well
What happens is: the bouncers absolutely look the other as long as I"m not too flagrant; and the girls VERY quickly learn that the manager and bouncers give me special treatment and leeway. I get leeway as far as touching, that is usually only reserved for whales
Another wise-man once said "fail to plan then plan to fail" - maybe it was the same guy.
Clubs are cheaper too.
You make the best of situations. Plenty of girls covertly offering OTC. Things work out.
Underground circuit, with touching, the money goes faster.
SJG
Very nice read brother.
It's kinda fun to see what one can get away with at no touch clubs
It's also a different feeling to be fucking girls OTC from these clubs other than something like follies wear every one gets a turn
It kinda makes you feel like a stud or at least very skillful.
Club on and God bless
SJG
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SJG
Should be that way, real civilian in nature. Don't let them use the P4P script or otherwise sell you dances. Wait until she really wants it. You can still give her some mistress maintenance money afterwards. You can make sure that she knows that it is for her welfare, not to pay her to go away.
If you don't mind my asking, Mexico, San Gabriel Valley, Arizona, other?
SJG
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SJG
justme62, yes, it just somehow sounded like it was San Gabriel Valley, and you handled it exactly the right way.
Is COI so good that even the DV and SR clubs are wide open, front room GFE, back room FS?
People say Upland is the best, but how about Flesh in San Bernardino. Looks like it shares a common website. But people have said that across the county line, LE too tough.
And how about the two Pomona places? Of interest because of proximity to the CSU.
Is COI that good, better than the other local cities, even better than Upland?
Thanks,
SJG
Also, when you go to VIP, there's no camera behind you when you're checking in; they are all focused on the bouncer and the money. It's a great place to cop a feel in front of a bouncer if your dancer is willing.
And of course there are cameras in the booths, but again the right dancer knows the angles and how to give you your money's worth. Nipple sucking and stick shifting are both easy to hide. FS would even be available if you worked it out, and were brave and quick enough, but I've never done that ITC.