There is NO sex in the champagne room... or is there?

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john232425
Game recognize game man, game recognize game.
I am somewhat dating myself with this, but when I was in college in the 90s Chris Rock came out with a funny monologue about strippers that focused on the "fact" that there is, "NO SEX IN THE CHAMPAGNE ROOM", at strip clubs no matter what the stripper says. And even though, "Everything written on this site should be considered a work of fiction" (look at the bottom of this page if you wonder about that), many of the reviews make an individual wonder if Chris Rock was totally incorrect about the "facts" that he shared about strippers. The truth is, knowing that sex is offered in the VIP area or champagne room of a club does not seem to make guys respond with, "Well! I will NEVER be patronizing that place again!" In fact (did you notice the lack of parenthesis around that word this time), the exact opposite reaction is often the norm. Mr Mackey from South Park was wrong. Sex IS good, "M-kay". And sex in the VIP area is very good. But how do you increase your odds of having a good time in the Champagne room? Well, from someone that has done it over 100 times with over 70 different strippers, here are a few pointers.

First, pay attention to the reviews on this site. It seems like it should be understood without saying, but I have co-workers that complain about their experience at such-n-such club when traveling and their experience exactly matches the reviews on this site. Why would they expect something different? That just does not make sense. Whatever your goal for clubbing is (seeing pussy, seeing titties, sucking on titties, BBBJ, FS, etc), this site will help you narrow down the list of clubs you visit. If you want to drink beer and see titties and you end up at a bikini club with only a juice bar, you're going to have a bad time. TUSCL will help prevent that for you and will help guide you to clubs that have a better chance at meeting your expectations.

Secondly, realize that a better chance is not a 100% chance. Every club has off nights just like every person has off nights. You might have slipped up early on in a way that made you get marked as a potential LEO. If the strippers think you might cause them trouble, they will avoid you. It is not worth it for them to risk it. One time without thinking I wore a shirt to a club that could be mistaken for the uniform shirts that LEOs sometimes use. All the girls were very careful around me, and they had strong boundaries. The next month in my jeans a golf polo I received a very different and satisfying experience. Learn from my mistake and be careful what you wear into a club and what vibe you put out if you are wanting a good time. Keep expectations reasonable and demands non-existent. Be polite. Always. You will probably not score each night - especially if you are going to a lot of different clubs for the first time. Stay positive. Keep pursuing your dream and you will find satisfaction - I have done it dozens of times and so can you.

Next, learn some basics on how to read body language (this will help in both SCs and dating). There are some tell-tell signs when people are lying. Did she just touch her nose or ear or push back her hair when she said everything would be available in the VIP? Did she avoid eye contact when she was making a promise about a good time? Did she create a physical barrier during her reply (folding arms or legs or crossing arm in front of her center) when you said, "I want to respect your boundaries but I also want to have a great time in the VIP, and I would hate to waste your time by taking you back there for just one song and leaving disappointed. Can you make sure I'm not disappointed?" Does she whisper in your ear like she doesn't want other people to hear what she is offering you yet then only use vague terms in describing what you will be receiving? She can say out loud that she will, "give you a great time in the VIP". She does not have to be secretive about that. So if she is she is probably a teaser and not a pleaser. Ain't nobody got time for that! Thank her and move on (or ask her to move on). These are general guidelines and not hard and fast rules, yet following them should increase your chances of getting what you are looking for during your clubbing. So is there sex in the champagne room? Yes. Not always, but definitely yes there can be sex in the champagne room. And often if you go to the right clubs and do the right things.

Finally, if you really want to have an amazing club experience, go to Germany. They have sauna clubs (FKK clubs) where the whole goal is to pamper and pleasure you in every way. And they are all throughout the country. The equivalent of $150-$200 dollars gets you a day of food (and sometimes beer) and massages and hot tubs and endless views of beautiful nude ladies and a mé·nage à trois to finish the day (or 3-4 sex or BJ sessions throughout the day if that is preferred). What $200 MIGHT get you at a U.S. club is what $50 WILL get you almost anywhere in Germany or The Netherlands. Save your money up for the plane ride, but have a blast with cheap sex with beautiful women once you are there.

Thank you for reading this and hope that in some way it has been helpful. Happy and safe clubbing to all! And good luck to all who seek the very real holy grail of strip clubs - Sex in the Champagne Room!

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PontiacGuy
9 years ago
Good comments about the body language!
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vincemichaels
9 years ago
I'll never go to a Champagne room, but your comments are spot on.
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shadowcat
9 years ago
I use to have a favorite club that had a Champagne room. In all of the years I went there I never used it. The cost just did not warrant the benefit. Cheapest bottle of your choice of booze was around $300. For that you got 1 hour in a relatively private cubicle. The dancers were free to charge what ever they could get away with. $300 was probably rock bottom. Yes a few guys were getting full service for that but $600+ is some might expensive pussy.

Being a regular at the club, I could take my favorite dancers to the semi private couch dancer room and get as much mileage as most guys were getting in the CR room except for FS. And occasionally FS would unexpectantly happen. And all of this for as low as 2 for $30.

For $600 I'm sure that most of us could get a very nice OTC hook up.
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Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
IMO it's really just a business transaction - not some kind of "system" one needs to run on a dancer to "win her over" or "convince her" to do VIP - it all comes down to two basic things IMO:

1) does she do extras

2) are you offering what she considers adequate compensation


Most dancers either do or don't - usually just comes down to agreeing on price.

As far as I'm concerned the major thing a PL needs to focus on is not getting ripped off which can be mitigated, but not completely illiminated, by:

1) stating clearly up front what is expected - don't beat around the bush nor settle for the dancer saying "we'll have a good time"

2) letting the dancer up-front know you don't pay till the end - best I'll do is show her I have the $$$ but not pay till the end


And in many clubs, there truly is no sex in the champagne-room/VIP b/c in many clubs those rooms *are* actively monitored and if one goes to these types of VIPs w/o ironing-out the details and thus learning no boom-boom in those rooms beforehand, then one will be SOL and will just be getting dances for the $300 to $500.
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Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
It can perhaps be an issue in certain clubs where there may by strict local ordinances and perhaps strong SC enforcement by lcoal LE where clubs may be often raided; but in my 100s of SC visits I don't ever recall not getting what I wanted b/c a dancer thought I was LE.
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BagBoyJames
8 years ago
love the Euro Ladies. I pray one day I might be blessed enough to take a flight. very good article sir
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wallanon
8 years ago
There is a middle ground in how to conduct yourself if you're interested in a better than average experience. How you act matters, and for me it's been many thousands of dollars over time in dancer "write offs" because they really do appreciate when a guy isn't an idiot.

How do I know? For starters, I can think of the times that people I didn't know in one regular spot (I was in the club way too much) would take a seat next to me at the bar and talk shit about what a great deal they'd gotten with girl they'd seen me with. I always wondered why someone who'd just dropped triple digits for my sloppy seconds (that cost me maybe one song for however long it took) would want to talk about it.

shadowcat has given advice on this for many years now. Why pay for a VIP or CR if you don't have to? You don't want other people to see what you're getting? If you want to be hundreds of dollars lighter to maintain your modesty then good on you.
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johnnyboy1111
8 years ago
Agree 100% with the sentiment behind the article. I'm blessed to live in an area densely populated with SCs that I love going to, and I can't imagine the disappointment those guys expecting to get extras at SCs whilst traveling must feel.

Also agree 100% with the last paras about Germany. I had put aside the funds to fly out to Frankfurt for a few days and just dehydrate myself in their FKKs, but I can't find any assurances that there are thick women out there.
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gavinmacloud
8 years ago
The Centerfold Club in Columbus had its "Champagne Room" (veiled couch area) right next to its lapdance stations. It was a total rip off at $300, when you got MORE privacy and MORE mileage in the lapdance rooms (in my experiences).
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Cheo_D
8 years ago
As mentioned by other commenters, there is a high variability in what you may get or not get even within one same club on one same night. Some years ago I was pleasantly surprised in an ostensibly "clean, by-the-book, corporate" club in an ostensibly "clean, by-the-book" city -- when the lady was making her pitch at first I was all "right, suuure, like I believe that..." but it turned out to be the revelation of the season.

OTOH in some places the CR/VIP is not worth bothering with because you will be getting a lot already at a lower rung of the price scale. If at some place the "3 dances for 100" booth is already de-facto a "3-dance-long-BJ for $100 and $50 tip" booth, then why pay more -- and in such places the girls may not even pitch beyond that.

Chris Rock of course was referring to a specific archetype of club, the hyped up Gentlemen's Club of the mid-90s thru mid-00s where there was no need for sex in the CR due to the high income from regular attention. These still exist and yes in such environments the more expensive it gets, the less service ratio you get - $700 + tab/tips in a NY Manhattan club is not going to get you anywhere near what $300 flat will get you in a Broward Co. FL joint, 9 outta 10 times.
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hardball
8 years ago
A couple things i noticed: at one club a couple girls seemed to be very coy with me until I tipped them and "accidentally" touched their tits or pussy. I realized they thought I was LE but the touching was a de facto LEO-check. I must say this does not work with some girls who do not want you to be too aggressive, so be astute and inconspicuous. I have also found it important to understand what is available in the VIP, and some girls will give you a menu with pricing and some are very vague. I asked one girl if she got naughty in the VIP and she said "I will with you" and I discerned that it would be a good thing and it was. Another girl just told me she was "a player" and did nothing in the back room that she didn't do on stage! A girl I saw yesterday was very sexy--on stage she asked me to take off her panties and bring them back to the table where we had been sitting. I had to resist sniffing them in front of the crowd for fear of being labeled a pervert LOL! She was very free about me touching her bare titties and even a little pussy. But she told me that I could not "whip it out" in the back room and if I was to cum, it would be with my clothes on. I respected her for her boundaries, but I did not go to the VIP with her.
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Jascoi
8 years ago
i'm still learning... :)
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Daddillac
8 years ago
I'm not as concerned with what Chris Rock says, he is not talking to me, he is talking to the Civvies we date. That way when not if they find out we were clubbing they think "There is no sex in the Champagne Room".... Whether I believe it or not is irrelevant, I just want the Civvie girls to believe it
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