Know what you want: A warning to other PLs.

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• Papi_Chulo

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  10 years ago

  Nicely written and thanks for your honesty. And if I recall correctly; it was the famous, and some may say infamous :), shadowcat that stated “… one day not touching will not be enough and then soon after, touching will not be enough …”. IMO – as w/ anything else – no one starts at the top per se – it’s kinda an evolution and many, if not most, SCers have gone thru the stages of just looking; to getting dances; to fondling and sucking titties; to FS. And I think the evolution of a PL may also have to do w/ age and the proverbial “midlife crisis” – when one is young they think they have forever to get or achieve what they want including women/sex – but as one gets older; they may realize they have less time left and can’t afford to waste time. And as w/ any habit; yeap; it is hard to break once you start – especially since there really isn’t anything to replace what a strip club offers – i.e. being able to have and enjoy a woman you find desirable and being able to have her in a matter of a few minutes after having just laid eyes on her – where else in society can one get this this type of immediate fulfillment – and not just from *one* woman; but one may have 20 to 30 to choose from.
• gawker

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  10 years ago

  As I've documented on this site, I fell hook, line, and dick into the lure of the SC. It's easy to do and led to financial problems for me ( why not spend my kid's inheritance?) My ATF continues to bleed me of what I've got left and knows that I have great difficulty saying no to her. We still meet OTC occasionally with little or no money changing hands but she nickel & dimes me for "help". She's currently been drug free for 6 or 7 weeks and is committed to a 6 month residential program. But she still needs cigarette money, clothing and is facing some upcoming court time. She says she's not going back to dancing because the lure for her addiction (drugs) is too prevalent and she knows herself too well. I, too started with watching, then touching, then the best BBBJ man could want, then to OTC meetings and total involvement in her life. I'm 40 years her senior and have no vision of anything beyond what we have now. But approximately $225,000 and 6 years into it, my little head continues to lead. Your story is not uncommon, but the need for caution is paramount. Be careful what you wish for.
• Papi_Chulo

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  10 years ago

  ^ I guess everything in moderation – but what is the alternative to what SCs offer – to grow old and bored? – play bingo? YOLO
• Corvus

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  10 years ago

  Welcome to the club. Sounds a lot like my story. Have fun and be careful.
• jackslash

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  10 years ago

  I didn't descend the slippery slope. It was more the slippery crack.
• Holdem2

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  10 years ago

  Excellent article. Again, I'm a Papi fan today if I can paraphrase and state that getting head from strippers for years and years might be more fun than leaving an extra $225,000 to your kids. Yes, I said extra!
• MrDeuce

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  10 years ago

  Nice job, marc5! Your story mirrors my own: a 20-year "descent" (though I don't really view it that way!) from total looky-loo who never even got a lap dance for almost a year to full-blown (ha!) PL who seeks out BBBJs at every opportunity. You've inspired me to write up my own tale as an article sometime.
• marc5

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  10 years ago

  Thanks for your comments, tusclers. Funnily enough, it seems obvious now that most people go through this progression. While writing, I mistakenly thought my story was kind of unique.
• Xeinok

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  9 years ago

  I started clubbing at the age of 25, I was working two jobs at that time so I was making lots of money. I have almost spent my entire paycheck each week by going to the same strip club almost daily. All the dancers know my name and called me a regular. I didn't have any girlfriends at that time and have never been intimate with a girl before, so when a dancer let me touch her boobs for the first time, I was filled with so much excitement that I couldn't sleep that night. Later on I went to a more trashier club and the dancers let me do more crazy stuff to her like sucking on her tits and finer her pussy and ass. Kissing them in the mouth like french kissing, the promise of going home with me for extra $100 and giving out their phone numbers to me, I know at that time I was heading to a very dark path, later on I have to sell my assets just to keep up my strip club addiction, I ended up maxing out my credit card constantly and borrow money from my friends and family just to keep up my addiction. I have however learned my lesson tho and stopped tipping like crazy or buying V.I.P LD in the champaign room. I guess what I am trying to say is that you can still have a good time in a strip club just don't let it get over your head.
• rogertex

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  9 years ago

  . Funniest story ! true dat for me too. I disagree with this: "Looking back, I can clearly see my descent down the slippery slope of my hobby." More like "Looking back, I can clearly see my ascent up the stairway to heaven."
• georgmicrodong

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  9 years ago

  I *almost* wonder what it would have been like to gradually slide down that slippery slope, instead of diving face first into the pit. Nicely told.
• Tiredtraveler

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  9 years ago

  @ Papi...Ah the Sage Shadowcat ! . I think we all may fall into the tender trap. There are several comments that are quite true. Strip Clubbing may be a safer way for a midlife crisis outlet because 'if' you are careful there are no strings and likely cheaper than the sports car you want and definitely cheaper than a mistress . I started clubbing many years ago when extras were very uncommon and you got a french kiss and maybe boobs in your face for tipping at the rail and 'private' dances did not exist in most clubs. So my 'progression has take alot longer than some (better part of 40 years) but what a ride. I set my limit on spending before I go, never take credit or ATM cards and very seldom do OTC. Years ago I did not preset my limit and got carried away and when I looked back on what I had spent in one week I decided then and there I would only take cash and when I was out of cash I was done.
• fastscrs

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  9 years ago

  Wow, your article describes my experience so well it could have been written by me. Years of this activity led to financial problems and a divorce. Did I learn my lesson? Absolutely not!! Still love the girls.
• mojoindallas

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  9 years ago

  I traveled the same journey but find myself recently wanting less extras and more of the sensual dances and grinds that i received in early 90s.
• shaved13

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  9 years ago

  I'm with you mojoindallas. I prefer the sensual dances too. The article pretty much mirrors my beautiful ride too! Well written.
• SoonerSam

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  9 years ago

  It takes a special kind of pervert to become a PL like us lol. I openly admit I was hooked the first time stepped foot in a strip club. The look on my face must have been comical. I was a 22 year old who'd never seen tits and ass live (I was still a virgin), and these women running around in next to nothing basically just blew my fucking mind. My first favorite was amazing. I hired her to do my best friend's bachelor party. The first club I visited the dances were all basically air dances with very little contact. But I didn't care - I was just inches away from a topless girl for the first time in my pathetic little life. From there, it was a bi-monthly excursion to the club. I spent as much money as I possibly could, which was not much. But back then, $20 could go a long way in Oklahoma, where in most clubs, a table dance was $5. As I continued down my own road of debauchery, I began to spend more and more. Now, 23 years later, if I spend less than $200 in a trip, I didn't have very much fun. My bank account affords me more opportunities for fun, but dances are now $20/pop. I, too, graduated from looking to touching, and recently (within the last two years) to asking for OTC. Now, I base my choice of entertainment venue on mileage. If I can get a HJ or BJ, I'm more likely to go to that club rather than one where the mileage is possible but more of a crap shoot. I guess what I'm saying by this long post is that I, too, progressed much as the OP and many of you did. I'm a proud (?) PL who relishes his time in the SC world. Tonight, in fact, I went for the first time in about 3 months and the bartender automatically had the waitress bring me my favorite drink the minute I walked in without ordering. I've obviously made an impression. Thanks for reading and sharing!
• Estafador

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  9 years ago

  Jeez man, you made it sound like you were headed down to attempting to date rape. Calm down on the theatrics. You scared the crap out of me.
• Estafador

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  9 years ago

  Somehow even though after I started touching and definetely wanted to fuck, I somehow resisted even going for a CBJ in da club. Even while drunk the resistance was strong with this one. Your soul is too weak old one mwahahahaha
• shailynn

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  9 years ago

  Is this the thread where all the 40 year old virgins hang out on TUSCL?
• Nobbler

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  9 years ago

  I don't see what is PL about this. Everyone has a threshold for stimulation that rises. You pay to play and you got wiser to the game! A PL is a dude who lives in a sexless marriage wacking off in secret while he talks down on guys getting stripper head :}
• JohnSmith69

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  9 years ago

  Like you and many others I've traveled a similar road, although I'm further along than the OP. I described my story a few months ago as an evolution, but the steps along the road are similar no matter what you call the journey. Keep traveling cause at the end of the road there's a dream stripper waiting for you. [view link]
• 3LeggedMan

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  9 years ago

  Last spring my employer decided my services were no longer in great demand and it caused me to consider working in another geographic region. The area I had been working in had awesome clubs, including my fave where VIP dancing implied significant 2-way touching, DFK and DATY included. I couldn't get enough. Now I find myself starting over, learning the limits of each dancer and the club in general, 700 miles from my old happy place. Some of the same benefits MAY be available, but a much higher cost than I'm used to. Life requires a continuous educational effort!
• bengalhawk

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  9 years ago

  Wild comments. I guess I'm on the borderline of the touching/not-touching line. As long as I'm getting an outstanding grind with a little titty play, I'm cool with that. That way, when I go home to my girl, I don't have to hide the fact that I actually cheated on her, like some of you guys have to do. I will say that it helps that I live in Tennessee ( and 4 hours away from ATL ), which has become a strip club graveyard after their draconian state and city laws kicked in. A few years ago, Memphis was sucking me in big time. The girls there didn't care, whether they were out on the floor or in VIP. ANYTHING used to go in that town. Had this one chick that used to grind and feed me like a baby with those big ass titties and constantly propositioned me for more in VIP. But once the crackdown happened, it really killed the Memphis scene. And in Nashville, you can get more play and attention in an actual nightclub, than at a strip club. Atlanta and Miami would have me in trouble though. I'd either have to break up with my girl, or stop going altogether. Couldn't do both. As I get older and make more money though, I can see how some of you can't wait to flock to these clubs whenever you get a chance. Probably got a plain looking or fat 30 - 50 yr old girlfriend or wife at home. Go to a club, and a 24 year old beautiful female with a great body can treat you like a rock star . . for a small or large fee of course.
• Comehomewithme

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  9 years ago

  OMG a quarter of a million dollars???!!! Wow! I thought $10K over a lifetime was way over the top. You make me feel like a cheapskate...