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2 years ago
Cj kent
28
The US, west coast and east coast
No set amount, maybe 5k now, and maybe $500 - 1k a month going forward
Cj kent, why is line of work relevant?
Im in the finance consulting industry
Cj kenr, did you copy paste from your other thread? The stalking comment isn’t relevant here, i think you also posted that on the “dancer disappeared” thread
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2 years ago
Icey what is wrong with you do you not read the glossary here? A ROB is a scammer, a woman who promises something and doesn’t deliver, its not a woman who refuses OTC entirely or who refuses it for a cheap price
You’re acting like a pimp who wants to guilt trip, shame and manipulate people into paying higher prices for strippers or hoes
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2 years ago
TFP what is considered extras like, is touching the pussy, or them rubbing your dick from outside your pants considered an extra? The rubbing dick from outside pants seems very tame considering they’re usually rubbing their asscrack and pussy on that area anyway...?
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2 years ago
Carioca, what is that about desperately meeting sales quotas at end of the month?
How does it relate to strippers are you saying, like at end of month rent is due so strippers are always more desperate at the end of the month
Is rent always due at the end of the month? Its never due on the 15th or beginning or whatever...?
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2 years ago
Icey why are you even here if the site is so bad? You’re taking time to help clean it up? I have met some annoying users but it doesn’t mean the site itself is bad or a problem
Your reviews likely arent legit and you only start drama, call people suck fucks in every thread i see
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2 years ago
Omega you’ll probably never get dances from them
And Omega, cutting out the middleman is a natural part of how the world works.
I think we’ve discussed so far, strippers, escort agencies, car mechanics, gym trainers. All these people once they trust and like each other, theyll set up private meetups. Example, my friend had a golds gym trainer who he now gets private training from. Middleman cut out.
Heres another example. Consulting company deloitte, has a client, bank of america. Bank of America pays deloitte consultants $200 per hour. Of that $200 an hour, deloitte only pays their employees $40 an hour.
Once Bank of America knows and trusts the deloitte consultant enough, they personally hire the deloitte consultant for $80 or $100 an hour. Bank of America wins, the deloitte consultant wins, the deloitte company loses out, but they rehire and retrain a new consultant to do the same thing.
The idea of cutting out the middleman exists in every Industry that has a middlman. Another example, you buy milk at the grocery store. If you’re willing to buy enough milk, enough volume, you would be able to directly contact the milk company, and buy milk from them directly, at a discount compared to the grocery store.
You seem to get very angry over this concept, to the point of claiming people are bargain hunters, evil, cheap bastards, greedy, lazy, etc. yet it’s literally how the entire world works. If you have clubs you should know more than most people about this concept. Nearly every industry has this concept of cutting out the middleman. As a business owner, you obviously have a bias against it and hate it happening just like deloitte, golds gym etc hate when tjeir employees and clients do it.
But omegs, yoir hatred seems quite excessive. I mean you apparently want to go around charging people for rape anytime they arrange something concensual OTC with a dancer. That isnt normal behavior. It happens in every industry, including strip clubs and escort agencies. Anytime a company is charging higher for products/employees you create the scenario that encourages this.
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2 years ago
TheeOSU idk what that means friend...her disappearance wasn’t related to me. Btw this dancer is like the top tier dancer, probably across the entire country. You’d be going crazy over her if you saw her
TheeOsu, me and icey have had numerous disagreements, youre mistaken...
Im not dougster and icey isnt either.
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2 years ago
623 i havent but, i would think a poor new immigrant would get very hooked if its her first day dancing and makes $1000 on a monday night
I doubt she would willingly quit, and she did make that money cause i saw her do the VIP.
She wasn’t lying about being an immigrant. Those things are just unlikely
Yeah it is possible they hired her as nanny, or she ran back to brazil, or her crazy bf found oot and did something. If she was dancing secretly from the bf that could be potential trouble
The creepy guy asking where she was, occurred after she had already disappeared for weeks, so it wouldn’t be related to her disappearance.
You are right the possibilities are endless. I got the impression she would be very open to doing OTC and even bareback given her licking behavior and pussy touching. I think her dance was like the 3rd dance id gotten from anyone.
But you are right, I doubt pushing the manager to contact her will do anything. If she really needs the money, and is here, and able to come than she would
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2 years ago
Georg i dont mean staying in touch outside the club or text
Its more like you were a regular for one dancer but then you become a regular for another dancer. That original dancer would still be seeing you and noticing you stopped being her regular and started being someone else’s regular
If youre only in touxh oitside the club, they dont know the situation and that yoire someone else’s regular etc
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2 years ago
It is my failt for not immediately asking for her number after the dance
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2 years ago
Georg, that wasn’t possible
She only worked one day, i gor a dance with her, then she got 2 hours VIP with an elderly couple
There was no possibility to talk or anything
She told me she would be nack later that week
It was her first day dancing she made $1000+
Apparently she was dancing secretly from her bf
Theres all kinds if possibilities why she disappeared though
Anyone making that much money dancing on a mondau night would likely be hooked especially a poor new immigrant
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2 years ago
Ishmael ive spent over 3k in the last month on dancers. And no im not gonna post pics of it to prove it to you and idk how it would even be provable.
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2 years ago
Warrior she didnt quote me that
I was thinking of offering it to a dancer
Who says she doesnt do otc or only does private dances otc...
Ive already paid $600 for an hour VIP, several times with her
$2000 doesnt seem that much, compared to $600 vip ITC...?
Btw Ishmael is lying and accuses like 50+ random people of trolling
Theres no way my OP can be used to troll, the content is non trolling
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2 years ago
Heaving and George, you dont think it causes a problem if you for instance spend thousands a month on her but then stop getting dances entirely and only get dances from other dancers? I havent done tjat before, like I have gotten one or two dances from someone tjen stopped, and things are still polite when i see them. But i havent yet, consistly been seeing someone weekly and stopped. But we’ll see what happens
This dancer, got annoyed when I wanted to do a $200 vip with her. Cuz the previous weeks i did $600. She actually refused doing the dance entirely, waited around, got a dance with someone else, then eventually agreed to the $200.
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2 years ago
SJG how much free money should be handed as a show of respect and support?
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2 years ago
Man im thinking if I should pay 2k or even 3k for a dancer i like.
But its far above even the famous pornstar escort prices.
I am so hooked on these dancers man. Im very picky when it comes to dancers, theres only 3, possibly 4 dancers out of 40 that i like here.
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2 years ago
Guys one dancer said she doesn do otc but also said you have to pay a lot
Like 2k now im thinking if I should do it
Skibum you just owned Icee
Now Icee that comparison is invalid, you dont get to say what price you suck a dick and get fucked for, its men so it would be what price you eat pussy for and fuck pussu for. And you could say its pussu you normally dont want to suck and fuck, to be fair to the women who dont want to suck fuck a dick but do it for money.
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2 years ago
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Cashman1234He/Him - He’s a filthy pig. That’s him in VIP with another whore.
Cashman,
To find out more about OTC and extras.
To find out more about why strippers or escorts do/dont do certain things
To gain more understanding of what drives consumers and suppliers in the industry
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2 years ago
Could you guys check my thread related to this
I was thinking of not doing anything with my atf dance wise, but now wondering if I should offer 2k, or even 3k on her for FS and toys and squirting!
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2 years ago
Tetra is that at the strip club or escort? That seems hard to get at some clubs... some seem to have no otc
What kind of rates are you paying for otc
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2 years ago
Omega, those pictures on your profile aren’t even women in your clubs or women you know...
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2 years ago
Omega, you said, escorts are sometimes dancers but not the other way around. If escorts are dancers, then those dancers are also escorts lol...
Omega, im not saying i want a bargain. If i know a dancer I expect to at some point, cut out the middleman. Im not saying she has to break her boundaries and do sex or something she doesnt want. But im saying i do want dances outside the club eventually whilst cutting out the middleman.
If i wanted a bargain I would be asking the club to give me discounts. This is just common sense stuff, if you’re paying a personal trainer, or stripper, a fee through a gym/club, eventually you may set up something personal with them and cut out the middleman. Millions of people do this.
It is not true they just see you as a wallet. Each situation is specific to each client and dancer. Some like their clients genuinely.
Omega, show me how many customers are spending $2400 a month, particularly on one single girl at one single club. It is rare. And i could do it every month but obviously not the same lapdance thing. $2400 a month of which club keeps half, yoire paying a quarter of the clubs rent and half of the dancers monthly rent.
Yeah a one time instance of $2400 wont register on a dancer or clubs income taxes, but every month surely will. At that level youre paying serious bills of theirs
Not everyone is an old man so if you’re a younger guy, similar age to the dancers they may genuinely like you as a friend or more
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2 years ago
Dolfan, she didnt move to another club. Theres no other clubs in tje area.
She only worked for one day, which was also her first day at work. $1000. I doubt she would never come again when making that much.
Additionally keep in mind, she told me she would be back in two days. Its very possible the managee is telling the truth.
When she didnt show up for two weeks he told me she didnt send him her schedule. Now, hes saying she just never showed up at all since that day.
Given her rule breaking in the dances it’s possible she got fired for breaking some rules. I guess anything is possible, and she coild have went back to brazil.
If the manager is telling the truth, it doesnt sound good. This dancer apparently hid her dancing from her boyfriend. Its possible something happened.
And yes stalkers are out there. But what if I gave tje manager my name and number and told him to give it to the dancee? Then it’s purely the dancers choice whetjer she thinks im a creep or whether she wants to reach out. Its possible she may have a lot of otc stuff arranged already and that’s why she hasn’t been coming in. Its possible she could be an escort, i havent looked at all the tryst listings in my area.
A true stalker would be trying to get her phone number, address, work location, family info, etc. I’m pretty certain she would be into OTC stuff and even bareback otc stuff. By him giving her my number, it gives her the choice and doesnt expose any of her info unless she wants to
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2 years ago
Warrior what do you use for sugaring which website
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2 years ago
Cant these people get completely free sex and lapdances. Why pay for it
They could likely walk up to random women on the street and get free sex and dances