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2 years ago
Call never prove myself to somebody I don't know especially somebody that is a troll, I got out of the hospital Tuesday and I was raped yesterday.
How am I going to go to a club in my area when I don't have clothes or shoes I said if somebody could bring me to a cop work they will give me some clothes or some shoes that would be great nobody's going to hire somebody that has no clothing hasn't showered has nothing I don't care if I have to walk there that's fine. If there's dancers on here that are local that have some clothes they could give me that would be really awesome
I'm using an old tablet on Wi-Fi I do not have phone service I don't have a phone anymore.
I appreciate the care but I am going to go kill myself I can't do it anymore emotionally and mentally I'm out of options I'm tired of trying to get these shelters and social workers to care. I don't know why everything is all about credit everything is all about that like it's just impossible
Thank you guys for Caring but this is the last anybody won't hear from me
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2 years ago
How can I WebCam when I don't have a working phone I don't have a computer I don't have a way to do it I don't have clothes I have one outfit I don't shower I have nothing and on top of it one of my biggest issue stripping was people want personal information they want to hear your life story they wanna hear about you they wanna know all about your life you have kids you have a boyfriend are you married where are you from and I don't give that information I'm just at my wits end and I'm tired of holding it in I'm very standoffish I'm a very private person but I'm at a point where I cannot take it anymore
But thank you guys for your advice I'm gonna go kill myself right now
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2 years ago
I just got out of the hospital for trying to kill myself several days ago and they were like oh you know you need to figure out to get some health insurance or get some money you can start taking your medication again they are not that helpful at the end of the day I'm probably just gonna kill myself again tonight
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2 years ago
I know I could easily go get shelter and stay with some guy but he could write me and make me have sex with him and I don't just go to random peoples houses I don't like being on the streets I don't wanna be here but this is been going on since I was in high school it's the same bullshit over and over and over I just don't get it.
If anybody knows some clubs that would like fly me out and give me clothing and put me in a place to live maybe for a night until I get on my feet let me know if anybody wants to cash app me and send me a few dollars that would be appreciated also I just can't do the whole prostitution thing and even dancing was a last resort it started one night because I was in a shelter and the whole thing happened of the whole look we found your housing we've been dealing with you for over 10 years nothing is working out nowhere will approve you so I went right back out on the street I still had some money went right back to the hotels and I was like OK my moneys gonna be drained pretty quick So then I went to dancing and then I was at a club it was right when everything reopens and I made some money I got a shitty car and I was dating somebody who was beating me but his car insurance was cheap so I had him in sure and put me on his plan because my car insurance is not manageable then I was staying at the hotel and I wasn't making money and my car was all messed up it was an old car but it worked and I was happy with it and they told me I had to leave because I old them money for three days and that I had to get my car towed out of there if I was going to be leaving I couldn't afford it so they told it out and I went to the tow yard it was $500 to get it out and that was the end of my car
I know when I was younger I should've reported the guy that open a bunch of stuff in my name I get that I know I shouldn't have let somebody take my car without a license and go drive it but this is stuff that happened one of it was eight years ago the other one was six years ago and I still can't get out of it
And I'm so sick of people being like you must have some family know I come from a small family there's five people alive in my family and my family used to bring me to be raped by family members they are not good people and even if they wanted to help me which they never would they're not allowed to speak to me and I would not want those types of people in my life
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2 years ago
So I was in a town where the elementary school high school middle school is all in one building there's maybe 200 kids in the whole thing it's really small small towns all over no public transportation is no truckstops the highway is about four towns away. I'm just so out of options and I'm tired of trying to kill myself and having it fail.
I don't understand how these girls that have nice wives seem to get more money all the time and people just send the money I don't understand how these girls that do drugs manage to always have money and always get people to do things for them like how come it's the people that already have money or the people that are choosing to do degrading things and spend all their money on drugs and throw your life away get people to help them. I know a lot of privilege girls and druggies to get everything done for them
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2 years ago
There's really not much to anybody on here can do for me I was just really looking to try to see if somebody can kind of coach me into how to do that.
I've had social workers I've been dealing with since I was a child and it's the same shit all the time I have a therapist but haven't been seeing her because my health insurance got shut off. I'm supposed to be on medication haven't been able to pick them up also I got all my medication pre-dated for about a year out but I can't afford to even pick them up.
Where I am the shelters don't care that much they take you win they find your housing if you can't afford it or pass a credit check if they require it done the shelter says hey you have to figure something out. I've been in and out of domestic violence and sexual assault shelters my whole life dancing was like my last step option.
I'm tired of having no shower no food being raped. I want to Slee don't care if the world sees it at this point I'm so desperate for help and I'm so depressed and I just feel like I've just been failed by the system, i've dealt with all these resources in the same shit all the time.
I just can't do the prostitution shit. That is way too much for me.
I don't get it how are these girls beg for money to get their nails done and his random guys just cash app them but I can't even get a guy to send me five dollars to get some food. Or get a guy to go call hotel and book me a night, or bring me food, clothes, etc
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2 years ago
If I could just find somewhere that would hire me looking the way that I look with note clothes to wear for an audition nothing and help me figure it out and help me get there I can make it work
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2 years ago
How would they get me a plane ticket like does that work? Oh Mardi Gras's is very far for me and I audition there one time and they did not take me they were actually really not nice over there but I wanted to go there because they have rooms there that you can stay in for like $50 a night
My problem is I have no more dance clothes I have one outfit that I wear every day I don't shower I have nowhere to shower I don't have that look anymore I don't have make up I have nothing I don't have shoes to dance and I don't know who is going to hire me anywhere
Nobody's going to hire somebody like that. I've asked people I know you know to lend me clothes or old shoes you know regular clothes and dance stuff and nobody cares when I tell people I don't eat I don't shower I have nowhere to go I'm not kidding every shelter in the area knows who I am and they told me that you know unless my credit has changed or some thing there's nothing that they can really do for me and I've done it before you know I go to the shelters I work and then they throw me out and then I'll go right back to spending all my money on hotels
If I even had a car I would be happy just a car to sleep in and get places
Nobody cares that I have a college education nobody cares I have a license nobody cares that I have a very good job resume
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2 years ago
Job skills and life skills are the issue I've had plenty of jobs I've had management positions I have an education I'm not fully done with school but I have no way to get anywhere, where I live is a small town and I just stay in floral Park in the woods there's no public transportation they don't even have a general store out there nothing. I have no family my family is not allowed to speak to me my car insurance is through the roof because of an ex-boyfriend who I like crash my car on a suspended license. I started dancing because I needed money upfront for a hotel every night I've been in and out of shelters and they find me housing and I have no money for housing and I cannot get the credit check
I have no way to get a car nothing if it was that simple I would have a car if I could afford housing I would have housing right now I don't even have clothes to go get a job I have one outfit right now I've lost everything I own. I just got out of a relationship not that long ago with somebody who beat me all the time and took all my money but he let me take his car he brought me to work and he put a roof over my head.
I am nowhere near South Dakota I don't have money for a plane I have no way to get anywhere I live in New England. I don't think people understand that not everybody has family some people have really bad credit not everybody has options not everybody has a spot to help them out. I would love to go travel dance and go somewhere else but I don't have money for a flight I have no clothes nothing nothing.
And the thing is I have a perfect resume good cover letter everything I'm way better than even dancing but I need money upfront
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2 years ago
In the Rhode Island and Massachusetts area all everybody cares about is extras. I wish that man would just come to the club is up here to flirt and have a nice time and get some dances and just enjoy themselves and just for general entertainment
Of course most men are probably going to say yes if given the option of an extra but I wish they did not enter the clubs expecting it. It should be more one of those if it's offered that's great if not I'm not going to pressure it and expect it
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2 years ago
I would say in the little over a year I've been working I have seen more girls acquire A second job or work at 2 clubs (especially because some clubs are not open all week or during the day). When I tell customers that I am in school and I have another job a lot of them don't believe me. People really think we make thousands of dollars- The only girls I know that are actually making money right now our longtime veterans with very good regulars or girls that do extras. A lot of us that even used to make good money are now struggling to make $200. I thought things would get better now that the weather has gotten nicer. Not only myself but other girls that I'm friendly with were doing pretty decent this time last year and now we literally struggle to make 200.
I am also not in an area that is particularly wealthy or is a vacation or tourist area. A lot of girls that I know that have been dancing for over 10 years have even told me that back of the day you did not need a second job but now it's becoming more and more common
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2 years ago
@skibum609 Centerfolds was frightening to say the least. The parking lot should serve as a warning sign. Its perplexing how popular it is- I'd rather be celibate if I were a man then engage in whats offered there
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2 years ago
@skibum609 The best money I ever made was around this time last year right when I started dancing and it was in Rhode Island at a couple of different places. I was at Foxy last summer and I don't think it was bad in hindsight but I felt like it was not that good because the summer was not as good compared to right when everything first opened at the beginning of spring I think if I did not have that to compare to I would have thought it was fantastic
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2 years ago
@skibum609 I did hear that it used to be lamplighter way before Joe owned it. I wouldn't doubt extras were big there. I know the Lamplighter II now on SW cutoff even goes as far as having a condom machine. Bettys is definitely not a very nice fancy club but financially it was enjoyable.
I've never been to the lamplighter but I've heard it's very small and not much of a club really. But I've also had girls more so on the older close to retirement side tell me that they make a lot of money there and they really like it. Centerfolds was just not for me at all, but I know people that do very good over there and I know if you're looking for extras especially for nothing ridiculously expensive that's the place to go. One day a friend of mine was looking on online for an escort and he was having no luck so I told him go to Centerfolds and he had very good luck over there, I think for two women he spent around $600 that includes drinks tipping on stage and full-service VIP times two.
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2 years ago
@rickdugan I mean its NYC so It's reasonable to charge a high tipout
@skibum609 I cannot comment on what bettys standard may have been years ago but In the months I've been there it's been no extras. That could be new. I made (along w a good friend of mine) around $500-1000 usually before the shooting there. Pre shooting least I made was a lil over $200. They pay us out at the end of the night and they have everybody's numbers on a clipboard my friend and I and another girl I'm friendly with all regular we have the highest numbers and I would say the numbers I quoted are about equivalent to the other girls who did good. Even the girls that did not as well did pretty decent. Especially given that they cannot do extras. I do know we have had new management since I've been there he got there a little bit before I did that when they installed cameras in the back and they redid the VIP area so it very well could have been a cheap extras place back in the day, I know that the other two clubs in Worcester are notorious for doing extras at a very cheap price so I would not be surprised. But the weekends used to be about a solid thousand dollars they're weekdays usually around maybe 500. I'm not saying it's a fancy club or the high class club by any means but it was very good money. For a customer sure it's nothing to write home about but for us it's very good it's not a club that I would say customer wise if you're in the area definitely go to because it's not super classy it's not high class but money wise for dancers I would recommend it maybe not now but before the shooting
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2 years ago
@skibum609 big money is not a thing anymore. Although extras girls seemingly do very well.
I'm not saying $$ at desires non extras is bad but its equivalent to other places, only higher house fee. May be worth another try
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2 years ago
@rickdugan
See that's pretty reasonable if all of the tip out including the DJ house mom and so on and so forth is factored into that. These are clubs that are in A city that everything is open pretty late and there's always constant traffic throughout the city it's not like it's a small town club. Not a lot of the clubs here have house moms none of them have make up artists or anything like that and the one that I worked out that had a very high tip out front, said Tipo did not include the bouncers or DJ or anything.
I doubt they would make somebody pay that upfront on their first night but you never know. Silhouettes made people in their first night if they started on a night with a big house fee pay that upfront.
I've never heard of that website I will definitely check it out thank you
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2 years ago
@Bharlem I have heard that man hat can be a little tough. I've done very good in a lot of the urban clubs. I was thinking of maybe going and staying out there for like a week or two type thing.
What kind of clubs are show palace and vanity? What's the weekday like and what is the weekend like? What are the house fees like? I worked at silhouettes over here which they've kind of tried to model like an old-school New York type club and on the weekends they charge anywhere from $200-$400 upfront to work. That's before the other fees. Are any of them directly in the city any good? I know it's a big tourist area New York City is always flooded with people
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2 years ago
@rickdugan you mentioned some thing about the high house fees in New York- what is your knowledge pertaining to that? I would not be surprised to find out that they are high out there. Most clubs allow you to pay at the end of the night the only one I have found that does not is silhouettes in Providence they charge you at the beginning of the shift and Thursday and Sunday it's around $50-$100... Friday and Saturday it can be anywhere from $200-$400 upfront to work. But I know that they style that club to kind of be an old-school New York party type club or at least that's what they're trying to go for the weekdays over there are completely dead but the weekends they try to make into some upscale New York style. That's the only club I haven't seen have a fee potentially that outrageous and make you pay it before you even go to the dressing room.
When I used to work at the Mynx at Hartford I actually met a lot of girls that would take the 3 Hour Dr. from New York to there maybe two hours give or take. They didn't really like New York but then I met a lot of other girls that are not from there that I've gone there for a little bit and have really liked it
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2 years ago
Hurricane Betty's was actually fucking incredible that's a really great place I love it there before they close down for a little bit last month it was very very good it's just been really tough trying to get people back.
Surprisingly hurricanes is a money club- we are just having trouble getting things kind of back in order after everything that went down. So maybe I should be patient and stick it out.
We get pretty high mileage during the dances there we just will not have sex or give BJ's. So that club does pretty well we had a lot of regular customers because our dances and our VIPs are pretty good especially the VIPs I'd say are very good to wear contact wise and they are pretty sensual you're just not going to get your dick sucked.
Also a lot of the girls that work there are very friendly good customer service and have nice personalities so I think that definitely helps also
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2 years ago
* The places I'm at are not necessarily bad
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2 years ago
I was thinking of the boardroom cabaret. @muddy I remember you mentioned it and I've had a lot of customers and some girls tell me they really liked it over there a couple of girls I work with recently went over there and they haven't came back so I'm assuming they like it.
Last summer in Rhode Island was actually not that great surprisingly. It was not awful but I think it was the transition from everybody spending so much money when they first opened at the end of winter beginning of spring like the clubs out there were very very popular and all of us made a lot of money. That was my first experience dancing and it was incredible so the summer was not necessarily bad but it began to fizzle down compared to what it was so that's probably why I'm associating it with not being too fantastic.
I have worked at desires I've thought of maybe going back there and giving it a try, but I don't think I would make any more than what I'm making now as me and a couple of friends of mine who have all worked over there that don't do extras all do very good the first week it's a very regular basis club so they talk and word gets around my first couple nights there were amazing then they figure out that I don't do extras and just like all my friends that I've gone there after the first week or two it's not that great. I know that it comes with the territory but even though I'm thinking of going back I would probably make not much more than what I make right now and I have to deal with the holes "please stop trying to touch me there please stop putting your mouth on my body please stop doing that or the dance house to and I've now asked you several times to stop I'm very uncomfortable" and the "please pull your pants up if I keep happening to ask you because it's now the third time this Has to stop". I know it's not like they're full on molesting me but sometimes it almost gets to a point where cross that line and it's like I've asked you to please stop trying to put your fingers inside of me I do not like that it makes me very uncomfortable and you try to do it several times after I have nicely asked you to stop- and I hate that you know it's one thing for me to set my boundaries when I go in your room and let them know and of course they're going to try to do stuff sometimes you know like maybe take her pants off or touch me inappropriately but after I redirect them and let them know that hey I don't like that you would think they would stop but a lot of guys at those clubs keep going and going and going.
I'm not going to give names but I was actually full on raped at a club in Rhode Island one time. However that is unusual that's not what really happens most of the time and most customers would never do that but there are some people that when you tell them I don't do some thing I don't like some thing I'm on comfortable and to please stop it turns them on more and they become violent. So basically it sounds crazy but I kind of have a fear of being raped at the extra clubs. As a dancer I should not have to tell somebody 10 times to stop touching something that is making me really uncomfortable what alone should I have to worry about being raped. I know desires would never stand for that but it's still the fact that when I was over there I would constantly tell people to stop doing certain things and they would keep doing it to the point where I almost could not take it anymore. Yes I know that comes with the territory yes I know I'm in a strip club I get it and as I said it does not hurt to ask me if they can do it and it does not hurt for them to try one time but to keep violating my personal space and my boundaries that's pretty out of line.
My other opinion is that the idea of performing sexual acts for just a couple hundred dollars is absolutely insane to me but I will say that a lot of the girls in the clubs have substance abuse problems that they are trying to fund. To me a couple hundred dollars is not gonna pay for my school it's not gonna pay rent it's not gonna pay for anything related to a vehicle yes it's money but I I am not going to degrade myself for like two or $300. It is really sad but almost all of those girls have alcohol problems and I would say a good amount of them use drugs as well. BUT then I see quite a few that do not use any substances at all and they just are OK with doing extras because they want money to get their nails done and be able to buy nice clothes and shit. It just blows my mind that these people do sexual ask for just a few hundred dollars. I mean if it was thousand maybe I would give in and I'm talking like thousands but the idea of having a bunch of men inside of parts of my body all the time it's just really gross to me I don't judge other people honestly I wish that I was them because I would make better money and I would be in a much better place financially. But that's just not something I can pull myself to do. Honestly I think what happened to me one time in Rhode Island to put a much worse taste in my mouth and it's the fact that a lot of people when you tell them to stop or that you don't like some thing basically kind of keep going and almost borderline sexually assault you. And I know people are like you can't sexually assault a stripper but you can sexually assault anybody that says They don't want some thing but you become violent and do it anyways.
The places I Matt or not necessarily bad but I want to make more money so I'm not in such a financial pickle right now but I face the issue of making money while staying in a clean environment.
I think I broke it down pretty good so you guys kind of get what I'm saying.
Desires as a big money club but I have seen a lot of girls that do not do extras that are beautiful girls with wonderful personalities walk out of they're close to empty-handed after tip out.
Because let's be honest why would somebody go for a dance or a room with somebody who is a great girl all around but is not going to give them what they want and satisfy their needs when they could go for somebody who's almost equally as good or maybe equally as good if not may be a little less but they're going to get their needs met and get what they want for their money?
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2 years ago
I'm close to Rhode Island however Connecticut is almost 2 hours from me.
I have danced everywhere in Rhode Island I was thinking of maybe trying what used to be Foxy brockton but is now the board room. I worked at desires for a little bit when I first started there I made good money it's a very regular basis club and I don't do anything extra and I'll be honest with you just about every single girl there will do just about whatever you want for the most part there's some that don't. Some money was not terrible but it was not great I thought of maybe going back there but I would maybe make less than what I'm even making now when your new there all the right whores wanna try you out and then when they realize that you don't do anything extra that word kind of spreads and all of the hype dies down. Plus if you're not making money it's not really worth it because the house fee that they charge the dancers plus all of the tip out is a little high. It sucks because I have very high expectations for the air because a lot of people were telling me that they make crazy money over there and then I realize that they make that money because of what they are willing to do.
Surprisingly enough other girls that I know that don't do extras went over to desire and felt the same way I did and it did not make that much. But I'm very upfront and I'm not going to tell people I'm gonna do something that I'm not going to but you do get customers that ask you for things and you tell them no and then you go back to the rooms and they're like you didn't actually mean no and it's like yes I did and I think you said it just to save your ass in case they were LE. Everybody else I know that does not do extras that has gone over there said they would make around maybe $300 which is about accurate however the girls that do extras over there do very well
I am surprised that they're picky about who they hire I've seen just about everybody get hired but I know that they don't really like hiring a lot of girls of color which really rubs me the wrong way honestly you have to have a variety and I think that's very bias. That's a common thing among people that work there that they say and I just think that's wrong but they hire just about anybody that's white.
As I said I'm thinking of maybe going back there for a little bit but I'm also hesitant because I probably would not make much more than what I do now I can't stress enough how disappointed I was along with other girls I know that don't do extras that if you don't do them you really don't make much there. I've done very good at clubs that have a good following but do not allow extras.
So to say clubs that are popular but don't allow extras I've always been one of the top money makers the clubs with the extras I can't even make shit compared to everybody else I do go the first week and that's it.
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2 years ago
I have worked throughout the New England area and Rhode Island is very full mileage just about everywhere I have seen a lot of extras happened especially for prices that personally I feel are a little degrading to the dancer but hey that's their choice. I do think geography has something to do with it but then at the same time Massachusetts is very strict you're not supposed to be touching the girls but the only clubs that don't allow lap dances and really only do the air dances which honestly I'm not really worth it for anybody are the clubs in Boston which there's two of them.
However, although mass is supposed to be very strict I have seen a lot of clubs that operate very brothel like. It is kind of perplexing that you could have a state that is very strict but then you can go into a certain establishment and somehow they managed to defy all of those boundaries and rules. We have clubs here where are you literally can only get an air dance and then we have clubs where I have seen people give full service for close to $30.