Comments by JimOsterberg (page 3)

It used to be the discussion with specific to the club. That brought out trolls like crazy weren't just asinine like TJ_Tim but always going after you about this girl or that thing. It was a lot of bullshit that eventually made it worthless for some clubs. This format is better in regards to that, but it is presumably harder to engage on a particular club, unless someone reads a review and starts the thread there. I still prefer threaded discussions, but understand that is passe (is that another thing the Millennial ruined?) I do think this format exaggerates the impact of trolls. They are indeed entirely unfunny, but different than the nasty/hostile ones who try to bully the site. But in terms of exaggeration, I could have sworn this entire site was overrun by TJ_Tim because I saw him/his stupid comments everywhere. But just looked his profile: 2 posts and 15 comments. Not a very prolific troll. But in this format he's visible.

This has veered way of topic (you started it, but I am guilty of the tangent). @DeclineToState your reviews are pure gold. You have my respect. I need to up my game. I can see the culture for the site is much more about quality and depth. That's great. I spent my 20s in at least the region but actually some of the clubs you reviewed. I didn't see the MBOT mentioned. Suck now. In the 1990s it was off the f--king hook. Just unlike anything in the world today. But really solid reviews. Congrats and thanks.

Yes, I am already. Rejoined 2 days ago. If I contribute to that, call me out. But I am not a troll and other than being overly chatty sometimes, I am not a troll nor often mistaken for one. But WTF on this others. What's Admin's policy on trolls? Enough already tijuana_tim and other fucking losers. Not funny, just pointless

BTW - I just looked at Mtent's profiles. Been on here 60+ days, 0 club reviews. Just lots and lots of comments. Look at my profile. How the fuck am I Mtent??

I see what an Mtent is: > He is a thumb sucking masterbator who crys himself to sleep at night while sniffing his own farts Okay, so maybe I do some of that but how would you even know that about me?? No I am not Mtent.

@Rogertex, I dropped it in 2016. Stayed UTR since then, and decided I needed to post to a discussion again. Completely unrelated to this site, I used the this same handle and email on another site where I really fucked and wikileaks scared the hell out of me. You can't erase the Internet, so I just cut ties. Started over completely new. @Ironcat, agreed @TheeOSU, yes but only Buckeyes

@DeclineToState -- bro? WTF did I do to you? My topics may not be giving you boners but what I lack in brevity, I put a fair amount of thought into my comments. How am I a troll? And what's a Mtent?

And fuck Apple!

@Founder -- that is kinda what I was getting at. And I didn't know it was 3rd party. Funny story (kinda funny) I was at a dinner with a bunch of software execs, and the big swinging dick bro VP (this was a large company, a Fortune 50 firm) talks about how he is retiring that year and going to a create an app where you can find any strip club in the country, blah, blah, blah. Everyone was laughing and yucking it up, and pulled out my phone said, "you mean like this?" You have done good things to make the site mobile optimized and the location services are the next best thing. I am a little paranoid about logging. Do you do you any logging on members and locations?

Absolutely. My favorite musicians, philosophers, and strip clubs are all dead.

In states like KY where is one of my favorite clubs, the cigarette smell is just punishing. It's one thing to come home covered in glitter and perfume, but the cigarette smell is unreal there. I have not noticed the vape smell in clubs and suspect its because I've gone where it is either no smoking or full smoking. But on Sat night I was at a club and this little near-teen millennial walked to back with me for an LD and as soon as we got into the back area out of sight of the bouncer, she pulled a vape pen of nowhere (her cooch??) and did a huge hit. It was funny but I didn't smell it. It was a strict no smoking club. As an ex-smoker, thank god for that. I can't stand the smell of cigarettes.

I will give you an example Papi. I was went to a bachelor party in your neck of the woods. All the guys were locals and knew each other and the territory. I was odd man out and only knew the bachelor. After dinner and drinks they want to go to strip clubs, of course. We were initially headed to one that was well known but lame. I could pull up everything nearby -- what was closest, what was better reviewed, and for me selfishly I wanted highest mileage at the lowest price point, so with the app I could take command of the situation immediately. I had all the same info on the website, but by the time the site loads on a phone and you're picking simply "Miami" and trying to figure out what's where, I would lost the argument we would have been heading off some I didn't want to go. The app give a lot of value. I guess the new-ish location services work similarly now vs the old site, but not like the app

Because I first joined TUSCL in 2002

Again, thanks for the advice who gave. Thanks for the comments. I used to be on here going back to the early 00s with another handle. Used to get into screaming debates. Don't like this format as much as the old threaded discussions. But still good commentary.

@Papi Dude, again in 3 months since meeting her he's done the VIP thing maybe once. What I am saying is if anyone were to read this from the club and the divined who I am talking about, I am not bragging about someone get treatment from a dancer outside of club rules. Otherwise, yeah obviously. If his interaction with the chick is to go see her in the VIP room, and he calls her his girlfriend, then yeah that guy is a best really missing the point. But 1) I never said that he called her his girlfriend, he never called her anything; and 2) he is seeing her outside the club far more than inside the club. We went to see her in the club after meeting IRL because that is kinda of an obvious thing to do. (yeah I get that it is also fraught with landmines. That's good advice) but other than that it is interaction outside of the club. Do I know he's fucking her? I know he texted me a picture of her wearing nothing but his shirt, standing bare-ass at the balcony of his condo the morning after we met. Do I know he isn't paying her? No. But I serious do not believe he is or that she otherwise does OTC or escorting. She actually has some real shit going on, and as corny as this sounds, I don't see her doing anything illegal that would jeopardize that. And she could be an UTR type but I just don't see that. I am in 80% confident she's just a dancer at a fairly high-end club that is more about pizzazz than mileage and happens to have it is off with somebody she has something in common with. But time will tell.

Ha ha! Well, it's not. And I am not being defensive. But I think you're just screwing with me now. Thanks all who provided advice. I will post an update if it's good news.

Like everyone I checked her out on PornHub and the others once the story broke. Couldn't even get hard with her. Not ugly just the most boring pornstar ever

BTW @ppwh -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry is certainly not a reference lost on me. Reminds me I bought The Little Prince for both of my kids when they were too young, but they're old enough now (well one is). That is de rigueur for proper parenting.

Rickberge -- yeah, I get that. That's not a bad plane no matter what. Also, to be clear, at this point I have described the situation sufficiently that anyone who works there and reads this site (which I guarantee there is somebody) they could put it together on who this is (I know there is a fuckload of gossip in the club -- but I maybe overestimating this significance of these circumstances.) But either way I am NOT saying there is a guy getting free VIP or girls breaking house rules. I don't know shit about that, but I do know that this dancer is very legit and honest in everything I've seen and I can only imagine she follows the rules.

I appreciate the comments relative to direct experience (per my OP). Some good advice -- including don't a whole lot of emotional stock into giving advice. The more I comment on this the more I think I shouldn't get any more involved than I already am. Also, let me be clear that I am am NOT stating he gets free VIP. What I did say is that I am almost certain he paid the other girl, and that he is not going down there for freebies and I don't know what he is doing behind the scenes (frankly it was a little weird to ask if he way paying her at the club.) Again, the club part of this is almost incidental. He does not see her often at the club (we're talking a just a few months since the first met, and he's see her at most maybe 3 times at the club plus the time we both went, and he has otherwise seen her dozens of times outside of the club.) They don't exactly go to the movies or other couples' houses for dinner, but generally it is a like a normal casual dating arrangement. As I wrote Yeah I get the skepticism. It sounds like bullshit. If he just told me and I didn't see it firsthand, I'd think maybe he's lost it and was bullshitting *me* but I met her and then saw her so then saw her again outside the club. So whatever is going on, it's with her. This is not some derp who thinks some stripper is his girlfriend because she's nice to him and shakes him down in or outside the club. This is a guy who is pretty fucking smart, and very street smart. He's got his shit together, she's got her shit together, I've got my shit together. We're reasonably sophisticated people as far as stripper and a couple of mongerers go. Let's not waste any more time on that. And Papi, and others, I get that this could be play-for-pay and I am just not seeing the pay. I just don't think so. I really don't. But that's just me thinking what I think so let's not waste anymore time on that either.

He's not doing any more than what you'd do in any other casual dating scenario. I know that and that's he not a sugar daddy. I know frankly he's not in a position to be. Nor is he inclined to. He's been my friend for 30 years. I know he's resources and know what he's not willing to do. And while I don't know her well, I can tell if she wanted a sugar daddy she'd have a sugar daddy. And maybe she does. But it's not him.

And whether it makes sense or not, it's happening. It's not bullshit, and it is not a ruse. Aside from the abnormal career differences and "how we met" story, it is a pretty normal thing. As stated, she's not an idiot, they have things in common, and they may be truly FWB as they're fucking but they seem to be genuine friends. And my buddy is older than her, but he's not a fucking ogre. He's good looking enough that it is not a distraction -- just not so good looking that other 20 year olds will be throwing him their g-strings.

He's not extraordinarily wealthy. As I mentioned above, he's a regular dude. They hit it off intellectually and they've been having fun. He has seen her outside far more than other in the club. The relationship, whatever it is, does not revolve around the club or stripping. It is revolves around the normal shit involved with casual dating (albeit with an woman in her 20s who happens to be hypersexual with a body that is a 10 on an scale, a face that qualifies as "hot" by any comparison, who happens to dress kinda like a stripper even when not stripping, and with professional ambitions unrelated to either the sex industry or my buddy's vocation)

Ha! If there's a wedding out of this at least the b-party will be off the hook. (although I may want to attend the bride's party even more)

I don't know he's her boyfriend, but it is not a dancer/customer relationship. He's not paying her at the club. He's not paying her for her time. She's too hot and too together to be to play-for-pay of him picking up the dinner and bar tab.