Comments by Owlyoung_ggofv

@ Pawg Patrol Thank you. I am frustrated with this club already. They keep pushing back the goal posts. I knew it has already been 2 months earlier in December. 2 months of auditions is ridiculous for a strip club. The building is relatively normal sized. It makes me very suspicious, like the owners don't really know what they want. Dec 30 is a terrible point to open a club. You are competing with multiple large established clubs for NYE. There is also the holiday drought to consider since most PL spent their money on Christmas.

@booker79 I do not know what became of The O Atlanta. I will check to see if it's still open on my NYE visit. I heard rumors earlier this year that they were having trouble (old warrants on the building from previous owner). I haven't heard the best things about it a few months ago.

I second Shadowcat on Atlanta clubs. Vivide, Tattletales, and Onyx all fit the description. The O Atlanta is good too if it's still open. Golden Showbar and Seductions are also good if your looking exclusively for Black women.

Xhamster has the same policy. I'm not sure if it's every state with an ID law for porn, but Alabama has it as well. VPNs fix the issue and their are other non traditional sites with porn. Hentai in particular and most comic based porn is unaffected.

@ Mr Monger To be honest, this is a problem with inexperienced mongers. If you're paying her for nothing then you really need to reevaluate yourself. I just want to understand the context, are men paying the bills of strippers directly or indirectly. If I agree to pay 400 for sexy time, then the dancer uses that money for bills, then that's not my problem. It's her money. I got what I paid for. The issue is if you a paying her bill directly and getting nothing for it. At that point just become a sugar daddy. I do agree some of the PLs on here take it too far, and creates an artificial ceiling. The sex market follows the same rules as the regular market. If guys keeping paying these dancers 800+, then they are always going to expect it. It's gotten to the point where I have had to tell dancers that going over 500 is ridiculous. I can get full service for under 400. The ones asking for 500+ are basically the ones who don't want to do anything, they just want you to stop asking. They also feel like they shouldn't have to work if they are doing more than dancing. Under 200 is basically escorting. It's tough to get a dancer to go that low unless she's really desperate. It's not as much of a flex as people think. We are all paying to party, paying more is actually a bad thing.

@ hankmoody, rickdugan You guys can still do this with the regular Google maps app. I honestly think the only reason they are charging the site is because they want more traffic on the actual Google app. It could be a targeted attack on an adult platform, but I doubt it. I appreciate Founder for adding the features. I hope he can find an alternative.

@ gammanu I'm surprised they are charging anything for GPS. My only thought is that it must be connected to the API service from Google, which does have charge fees.

Founder, are you using Google map API? Try Mapbox, Openlayer, Leaflet. Bing Maps was already suggested and may be the easiest to use. It should be noted that typically some of these applications do have an upper limit on how much they can be used, like 100,000+. I typically don't rely on the GPS feature to find places. I just copy the address and add the locations in the GPS.

@ Everyone, I think this all boils down to the personal taste of a select person. That is what media gets wrong about everything in society. Just because 1 rich individual happens to like a fat woman, all of a sudden fat women everywhere are attractive. All it means is that some people have a particular fetish. Individual women spend their adult life looking for a needle in the worlds largest haystack. It's happens sometimes, but never enough to satisfy even 5 percent of the women catering to the fetish. Standard thoughts on attractiveness exist for a reason. The majority of men aren't paying even breaking a few hundred for that.

@ Pawg Patrol, I wasn't very active 10 years ago. Every time I read about the past (roughly 2010 to 2018), it's feels like I missed a silver age of strip clubs. I say silver age because I think the true golden age of strip clubs was 1980 to late 1990s. It was before my time, so perhaps someone over 50 can clarify.

Yep, that's the kiss of death. To be fair, a bikini bar next to strip club capital of the South was always going to be a losing battle. I have been informed that many of the dancers work there while waiting on adult entertainment licenses to work somewhere else. Club Wax is essentially just a temporary stop until a full nude position opens. They say wild stuff still happens but its definitely rare now. A big factor is if the manager is there or not.

Is South Fulton trying to be a neighborhood district or something? Thanks for the update.

Techman, Everything is as Odd-job stated. The club is not really about lap dances. You pay the house and you can do whatever.

@ Icey, some of it is probably location. I'm 33 and it amazes me how so many midsize and large cities close shop at 11 pm. I understand nobody wants hang arounds, but you'd think more places would have a gas station model where they are at least open until 1 am. And this isn't just Covid, I have seen this happening for years before the pandemic was announced. @ skibum, I agree with you. The problem now is that the free money from pandemic has been gone for a year at least. RTO (return to office) is more prevalent than ever before from major corps. Elon Musk, Trump's best friend, will ensure that continues. I don't mind having different employees, but the prices have honestly gotten out of control. The stripper expectations have literally hit critical mass. Clubs have decided to milk PLs more and we visit less to compensate for it.

thanks Shadowcat. Short and to the point. I wish more strippers were like you.

@ ilbbaicnl, Preferred411 I never heard of Preferred411. I have been on escorts sites like ECCIE. I will check it out. Is it a way to screen yourself as a PL

@ twentyfive, ww, and Lex Luthor. I agree that the current strip club model will undergo some type of change. I believe the biggest threats are cities simply cracking down on clubs due to needing more real estate for expansion. Strip clubs have always been the easy targets. The other issue is that inflation is basically creating a smaller pool of PLs every few years. My expectation is that clubs become more privately owned versus the corporate model. They may convert to "country club" type of system where you need pay membership (all discreet of course) to partake in an recreational area with Billiards and alcohol, that just so happens to have waitresses (ie Strippers) perform for you. You can message me for more ideas on this topic.

Deja Vu ? I feel like I've read this exact same thread before. If it was me, id be more interested in getting myself off.

@ Icey, I have noticed the mandatory "must work 3 weekdays" policy in effect at multiple clubs. It definitely works, but it cements my point. Outside of executive meddling, weekdays would be more empty. I definitely appreciate being able to visit clubs anytime during the week, so it's a win for everyone.

I wouldn't necessarily say it's a "last stand". I have noticed this trend for the better part of a decade. It's more a sign of the economic viability of keeping a club open multiple days per week. You either need a consistent flow of traffic or very big earners spending frequently for it to stay profitable. There's a good reason Big box retailers stay open everyday, and it's not because of the service.

I have noticed it too. Generally, inner city clubs (in large cities) are Tuesday to Sunday. I rarely ever see a club open on Monday. I'm sure it happens in some places but out of the 20 clubs I have visited it is rare. Your urban clubs (mostly black dancers) are almost always Thursday to Saturday. I would do research before attempting a Thursday visit. Rural clubs are typically in the same boat as urban clubs, it's just not profitable to be open more than 3 days. I would also guess that it's based very heavily on dancer volume and clientele. Dancers in urban clubs are more likely to have full time jobs in addition to dancing, while dancers in richer areas may make enough off their full shifts.

@ Founder. Thank you for making this site. It has not only saved me a small fortune in cash, it has given me new destinations to try instead of circling the same 5 clubs. I wish I would have used this place more 5 years ago. Technically R/strip clubs and similar pages on Reddit are more popular and easily implemented in the cultural zeitgeist. However, they lack the details that TUSCL goes into. The issue lies in what people want. Are you looking for possible extras and high mileage dances at relatively affordable rates? Or are you just looking for a relatively safe place to hang out with friends with some hot eye candy ? Your answer to those questions and everything in between will determine how useful this site is. The truth is most strip club goers are not making this hobby a primary target in their life. I love visiting strip clubs and club culture. But not everyone feels the same way. Thanks again Founder.

@ PuddyTat, I agree on the border being closed down until better security is established. My concern is that it needs the reinforcement of an improved immigration process. I will admit that access to sex workers is a major concern of mine. I am willing to give up on some freedom if people are truly in danger. I think the problem boils down to the "boy who cried wolf" effect. (that's a free one for RickytheLion) How many times has the public been informed of doing things to "stop human trafficking" for the actual reason in many, but not all, cases being just stopping regular soliciting. Soliciting is still a crime, but I'm sure you get my point. Going after employers has been my plead as a Democrat for 8 years. Thank you. I believe the problem is that too many politicians are bought off (both sides) by lobby groups to allow corporations to use cheap labor. Internment camps do cost money, and they have too high of a risk to become unsanitary and abusive, even with good intentions.

@ PuddyTat, I agree that we can't logistically get rid of 11 million illegals. The only option he has is selective dismissal (what you proposed), creating internment camps , and busing or flying out waves of people (least likely due to expense).

@ PuddyTat, the issue isn't law and order. The problem is that police and politicians want easy answers that they can sell to their base. I have no problem going after traffickers. That requires spending on police personnel and equipment. It's easier and more marketable to go after easy targets. Strip clubs and escorts are relatively easier to destroy than a human trafficking operations.