Greenland or Canada?

Why not both?

Make them speak English. No French. Their testosterone would immediately double.

"What good taking on a couple of frozen welfare states could possibly do us is beyond me."
Natural resources and space, particularly on the Arctic.
I still regard these as, well, a snowball's chance in hell (for Greenland) and a snowFLAKE's chance in hell (for Canada).

"There is always the excuse of “he’s just saying that, it’s STRATEGY”, but that seems too convenient."
Except that it fits his MO.

Starting any post with the words "the orange turd" demonstrates a complete lack of seriousness, cognition, and class. That is kindergarten level coping. Grow up.

Puddy: so it’s either a good idea or he’s just saying that or it’s both? This is trump era 1 gop thinking. I know it’s crazy, you know it’s crazy, and I know that you know it’s crazy.

I can’t read gammas comment bc my retard filter is on. Say hi to icey from me, gamma.

^ @Drew
Is the popcorn maker working?

^^ Except that his negotiating opponents can't decide if he's crazy or not. That's the point.

^ that not up for debate any more, its covfete

👽 ☀️ 🌲 WTF? All I Know Is There Is Lots Of Sasquatch In Canada, WA, Alaska, Etc....But Not Much Info On Greenland, What Da' Hell, There All Cold 🤠

@puddy: sure, that’s the old refrain. He’s so STRATEGIC that he pretends to be crazy to get better deals! Or… he’s actually just a crazy person.

@25 I need to upgrade mine, it won’t make it though the next 4 years

@drew - the fact that we're debating whether or not he's crazy says he's having the desired effect.

Greenland has major strategic and economic value.

We already have a military base on the continent, which is part of our IBM early warning system. Also, major northern shipping lanes run through its territorial waters. It also holds vast deposits of rare earth elements, some of which we currently have to rely upon China to supply.

The entire continent also has the population of a single medium size U.S. town. And it's not like Denmark is doing much with it.

So in this instance I don't really understand the shrill girly squeals of half men who are already leveling charges of crazy town upon us. But of course, some of us have enough emotional control to actually do 3 minutes of research to understand the issue before we form an opinion on it, lol.

^ Let’s start a go fund me page, for a new popcorn machine

BTW if he’s successful taking over the Panama Canal, the French will have to take the Suez Canal back as well.

And to add, the U.S. isn't the only country interested in Greenland. Russia has been running military exercises near its shores and China lobbied, unsuccessfully, to build three airstrips on the Continent.

If we could manage to persuade Denmark and Greenland to make a deal, it would be a huge strategic and economic coup. Denmark is also heavily subsidizing Greenland, which provides ample opportunity for leverage and negotiation.

Fake news! Meow

I think Trump is dead serious about pursuing Greenland. Read what I wrote above.

@rick: every time you fall back to the the personal attacks ala “shrill girly squeals” you demonstrate that you don’t actually have an argument.

But sure, tell us all about how much you know about Greenland and how we are going to annex it and why that’s good for anyone. Apparently you’ve been “doing your research” (ie googled “Greenland”).

Ha ha - if there were any hostile takeovers of anyplace on earth by Russia or China, who do you think would have to pivot and suddenly put vast military and taxpayer resources into the fray?
Denmark? France? Great Britain?

All you people who want free stuff - healthcare, housing, food, public transportation, should be down with “America First”.
Don’t you get the connection? We need to maintain world economic supremacy. Sorry if that doesn’t seem fair but that’s the way it is.

"every time you fall back to the the personal attacks ala “shrill girly squeals” you demonstrate that you don’t actually have an argument."

"orange turd"

Lulz

^ The free stuff from Greenland includes ice in the winter

Greenland is large, but according to Wikipedia, it's not a continent: "Greenland is the world's largest non-continental island and the third largest area in North America after Canada and the United States."

Just puttin' that out there...

===> "@rick: every time you fall back to the the personal attacks ala “shrill girly squeals” you demonstrate that you don’t actually have an argument."

How else do you want me to describe it when you kick off with "orange turd" and then follow it with 4 paragraphs of melodrama? You do it to yourself man. 😉

My argument regarding the benefits and opportunities was very clearly laid out. Feel free to read as slowly as you need to before you respond again. Now he may not be successful, but it's hardly as crazy a concept as you seem to believe - for all the reasons I already discussed.

Aha the might Rick Dugan once again with no substance and the typical personal attacks.

Here’s a dumb one: “we have a military base on the continent”.

1. Greenland is an island, not a continent.

2. We already have a military base on every “continent”. By this logic, we should annex France and Spain too.

Maybe geography isn’t your strong suit, tiger? 😘

Miss Greenland. Just sayin’
https://www.instagram.com/missgreenland_…

I should probably point out Orange Turd, doesn’t actually count as a personal attack, unless you happen to be the Orange Turd, himself, but one hallmark of a cult is taking attacks on their Dear Leader, personally.
Jes Sayin.

^The two-five is correct.

Sorry Drew I have nothing against you but the phrase "orange turd" marks you as having nothing of value to say. I expected better of you quite frankly. I did not expect better out of 25. The hysteria of democrats about Trump, more particularly in view of the thousands of people dead worldwide in wars due to Biden's impotence as a leader, makes me understand why progressive men are so supportive of trannies.

@Studme53
I could support taking over Miss Greenland
😀

Skibum don’t feel bad I don’t expect better from you either, so don’t worry about it
Covfete Baby

^ ha ha - do they have strip clubs in Greenland? If not, let’s rethink this whole takeover.

25 ip yours douche bag fraud. By the way, its covfefe imbecile. Limit yourself to words with fewer letters.

^up

^ Covfete Baby, cope properly

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^^ epitome of a fucking cunt. ^Lmao.

Drew, mea culpa on the island vs. continent designation. As far as the rest, please feel free to respond to my argument holistically rather than picking out once piece. Why it makes sense is the military base PLUS all of those other factors.

I copied and pasted the relevant portions from my posts above to make it easier for you to read. Take all the time you need...

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Greenland has major strategic and economic value.

We already have a military base on the continent, which is part of our IBM early warning system. Also, major northern shipping lanes run through its territorial waters. It also holds vast deposits of rare earth elements, some of which we currently have to rely upon China to supply.

The entire [island lol] also has the population of a single medium size U.S. town. And it's not like Denmark is doing much with it.

And to add, the U.S. isn't the only country interested in Greenland. Russia has been running military exercises near its shores and China lobbied, unsuccessfully, to build three airstrips on the Continent.

If we could manage to persuade Denmark and Greenland to make a deal, it would be a huge strategic and economic coup. Denmark is also heavily subsidizing Greenland, which provides ample opportunity for leverage and negotiation.

@Ski as always I appreciate the collegiality. I’ve been calling him the orange turd on tuscl for years, It’s my little indulgence. We all know he’s an embarrassment, though. To be fair not even I will defend “dead at the wheel” Joe, who I once liked.

But this post isn’t about that, it’s about geopolitics, baby!!!

@skibum
My final word is I still don’t expect anything better from you. What ever you like !
Covfete Baby

For anyone who takes trump seriously, remember in 2019 when he said he defeated Isis??

Lmfao. Please get real. Nationalism is happening all over the globe, so this is just posturing bs, as always. Funny thing is, nobody that has commented on this thread knows a damn thing, but get their feelings hurt when somebody disagrees. lol!

Except you would not have known the muted comment was from me, unless you unmute the comments and read them. Gotcha, loser!

I listen to everything Trump says, the same as I do with all my opponents when I play poker, and I trust and believe everything they all say equally. Of course my motto in poker is "I believe nothing I hear and only 30% of what I see when it comes to cards."

@rick:

Thank you. I’ll go one at a time and we can sum up at the end.

2. “Also, major northern shipping lanes run through its territorial waters”

…not really. Greenland is far out of the way of Atlantic shipping lanes, it is very far north. However if climate change continues apace, the NW passage will become more viable as an alternative to the Panama Canal.

But really, who cares? Ships sail all over the world today and we don’t need to annex South Africa, Spain, Argentina, etc. to get them there.

I need more butter for my popcorn.

...and what about Panama. To paraphrase Senator Dan Inouye, "We stole it fair and square, twice.."

Hasn't he heard that the Panama canal is running out of water?

If I’m living in shitty Greenland, I would love to be part of the US. I wonder if you polled the residents (only like 50K) what they would say. I mean literally just buy everybody out.

Btw I can’t wait to sail the Gulf of America playing Christopher Cross songs. It has a nice ring to it

@gumaman

Who the fuck uses the Gadsden flag to show how "aware" they are? You really know your rights dude!

Fuckin' stupid. Aren't you glad you ignored me? Now everybody else can see my shit talking, except.....you.

@Muddy: unsurprisingly, they want independence from Denmark, not to join the USA. There may be an orange turd factor at work there, just guessing.

Have you seen the Yacht Rock documentary? It is excellent and has plenty of Cristopher Cross.

@25
"I should probably point out Orange Turd, doesn’t actually count as a personal attack, unless you happen to be the Orange Turd, himself, but one hallmark of a cult is taking attacks on their Dear Leader, personally.
Jes Sayin."

It's only a cult when it's the other side.
This is "pointing out hypocrisy."
Keep my name out your mouth, gramps.

@drew yeah I totally seen it on HBO max. It was amazing. I love all that good shit.

^leaving geopolitics for a sec: the part where Donald Fagin told the narrator to “go fuck yourself” was worth the price of admission alone!

Oh yeah Fagan seems like a huge curmudgeon but it was definitely lmao worthy. He couldn't have been too mad though as he licensed a bunch of songs to film. Maybe he realizes on the down low this fake genre (albeit an awesome one) is bringing new folks out to the shows now.

^the way I see it, you feel a little ripped off if Donald Fagin *isn’t* a dick to you. Like you’re not getting the full experience. Who knows, maybe they got him to say it bc it’s funnier than another bunch of more of less nice stories about songwriting?

Panama Canal, Gulf of America, Greenland and Canada: "The Art of the Deal" in action is how DJT shoots for The Best Deal. Obama showed us BOHICA when he BOWED to a Saudi Prince when he was first in office, we've had 12 years now, and BHO is now irrelevant, and POTUS Biden will be remembered as POTUS BRANDON. The ction Brandon has taken the past month clearly show his colors and they are not Red, White and Blue.

Starting out with "Orange Turd" is just telling everyone you need to stop binge drinking Kool-Aid and take off the Converse.

The Panama Canal was a historic move to Globalization by the Left back in 1979 by Carter. America built the damn thing, 55,000 workers and 5.600 killed. The French failed and failed. We need to push the CCP out of our Region. Start with The Canal. We can pressure Panama with tariffs as they have broken the treaty we agreed to when they took over and gave operational control to a Chinese operations company who reports to the CCP.

Gulf of America: Why not. Lots of things get renamed. We have a bit more coastline than Mexico so do it.

Greenland: The PM of Greenland just kisses the Danish Ring and bends-over to keep his cash flowing. The people of Greenland want to see America make it a US Territory as the Danes take advantage of them. If Russia or China become provocative in Greenland Denmark will be like Poland in WWII. Even if we paid $5T for it, the ROI would be incredible. People poo-poo'ed buying Alaska too.

Canada: I just don't see it becoming a State, ever. However, we can greatly improve trade by getting a better trade agreement and getting Canada to do a way better job of stopping illegals from heading South. For example, Alberta has a known 100T Cubic Feet of NatGas. AI data centers need between 500MW and 1,000MW of electricity. Remote land in Alberta for lights-out AI DCs is cheap and building NatGas power plants is not a big deal until Pebble SMR nukes can be constructed. Building AT DCs on USA turf is not as practical.

What DJT is doing is 100% MAGA, and it is about damn time after the limp-wristed sell-off of America we've seen since the 1970s.

Pucker up Liberals and get ready for some underwear changing. Me, I'm LOVIN' IT!

^you guys can pretend this crazy bs isn’t crazy all you want. But I know that you’re actually thinking “ok take it easy Donald”.

This morning he said he wouldn’t rule out taking Greenland *by force*. That’s just as cuddly as Vlad Putin’s reasoning for invading Ukraine.

Hopefully he’s just a liar. I’ll remember to quote you on “I’M LOVIN’ IT” when we get a few miles don’t he rabbit hole.

I'm loving' watching the libs cry, seethe, cope, flail, and impotently fret just by the maneuvering even before Trump has taken office. Once he is sworn into the Oval Office, the fun will really start.

Here's the craziest part: a rising tide lifts all boats. We can expect the GOP and Trump to fix the economy again, restore national security again, hold the everyone - foreign and domestic- accountable again, and make America the leader of the free world, again. The libs will be safer, richer, and enjoy a better quality of life than Brandon/Harris/Obama 3.0 ever offered them and claim to be miserable the whole time.

Trump is a fucking idiot. You have to be delusional to try to rationalize what he says.

Maybe I missed it among all the discussion of Trump's comments on Greenland, Canada and Panama -- which frankly are embarrassing the US on the world stage.

How is Trump going to lower my grocery bill ?

wild4testes, since when would you care about the cost of your grocery bill?
Your posting history here has always been about supporting the people whose policies helped raise it #DIPSHIT!

@wild: "How is Trump going to lower my grocery bill ?"

...trickle down economics, of course!

'All you people who want free stuff - healthcare, housing, food, public transportation, should be down with “America First”.
Don’t you get the connection? We need to maintain world economic supremacy. Sorry if that doesn’t seem fair but that’s the way it is.'

And yet, there are over 70 countries worldwide that have some form of free or universal Healthcare. Zero of those countries have the largest economy in the world.

Also, LOL at Greenland being called a continent.

There are three ways of looking at this

1)Trump is crazy
2) Trump want's to see how crazy his supporters are
3) Both 1 & 2 can be true at the same time.

wld4cocks is just parroting eric swallows from California. Simultaneously hilarious and pathetic.

"70 countries worldwide that have some form of free or universal Healthcare. Zero of those countries have the largest economy in the world." This is called a self-own, LOL. None of them have the standard of living which is the envy of the world, either. The United States is not perfect - our government, our healthcare system- but it is still better than any other place on Earth. We, the MAGA "fringe", are simply working towards maintaining our nation as the highest standard of living, as the shining city on the hill, as a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. The democrat party has openly stated that they want to take America down to the level of most third-world countries, that they want to instill a perpetual government of elites and insiders, and to allow the barbarians inside the gates to loot and rape. As Americans, we have a precious heritage that cannot be frittered away by weak and immoral career bureaucrats. This is all simple truth. We won the election. Democrats lost. Get over it.

There is only one way to look at people with Trump derangement syndrome: With disgust at their anti-American desire to suck foreign cock and swallow.
The stupidest people on earth use the phrase: "free healthcare, instead of the truth, that they are stupid, lazy, greedy and feel an entitlement to be supported by those who are superior to them in every way. Fucking progressives always looking for a handout.

Dum-Dee-dum-dum…..
Dumb Dee dumb, dumb, DUMB!!

@Drew:

Here's some more information regarding shipping lanes involving Greenland.

https://www.freightnews.co.za/article/ne…

And once again you cherry picked one part of a much broader collection of considerations.

Some folks in this thread could really benefit from some emotional control. Seriously, all this melodrama over every out of the box thing he suggests must be downright exhausting. 😉

The U.S. has a long history of acquiring territory through purchases. Just because it hasn't happened in the modern era doesn't mean that it never can.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta…

Most of Greenland is uninhabitable, which is why there are less than 60,000 people on the island. Even worse though, Denmark currently has to subsidize Greenland for it to work even for that small number of people. When you look at this without pre-conceived biases and knee-jerk emotional reactions, it makes sense to wonder whether Denmark might be willing to part with it - for the right price of course.

^ The lefties on this thread (and in the media) need Trump hatred like the rest of us need oxygen. It gives their lives meaning and purpose.

^Nope, it's looking at things clear-eyed without being MAGA kool-aid impaired.

^
wild4testes = #DIPSHIT

@wld4tatas - the left is as clear-eyed as Stevie Wonder.
You have 11 days left to rehearse a good inauguration scream video.
Don't disappoint us.

===> "^ The lefties on this thread (and in the media) need Trump hatred like the rest of us need oxygen. It gives their lives meaning and purpose."

Puddy, I'm starting to think you're right. Just look at them, flailing about in this thread with so much melodrama and hyperbole, yet nothing concrete to dispute the many amply discussed benefits that could come from actually accomplishing a purchase of Greenland.

They literally cannot put aside their conditioned emotional responses and look at this objectively. They have no emotional control whatsoever. I must say that this is not a great look on grown ass men. It's like they never had fathers to teach them how to behave like men, so they've defaulted to some shrill teenage girl mode.

And I say this as someone who can't stand Trump. I still hold the narcissistic a-hole responsible for the depressed GA special election turnout which gave Dems control of the Senate and, in turn, led to catastrophically inflationary spending bills. But I held my nose and voted for him for policy reasons and now I'm going to evaluate each new proposal on its merits.

Now his Canada comments I found to be stupid. We're talking about 44 million people under a very different system of government, accustomed to more government support services. Absorbing a country of that size, with such differences in governance, would be a downright nightmare.

I really think that Trump was doing a "look here, look here" when he raised that to make his Greenland proposal look more reasonable by comparison. More of his "Art of the Deal" tactics.

But a tiny population of 50,000 people who may require some modest subsidization (by U.S. budgetary standards)? Eminently doable.

@rick

Hold your horses, we are getting there!

“ The U.S. has a long history of acquiring territory through purchases.”

Too late your orange buddy just upgraded: now he won’t rule out taking Greenland by force. Enter the Trumperium!

“ And I say this as someone who can't stand Trump”. …I knew it! You and I not only share a delight in hot young sluts, We also can’t stand Trump.

Let’s get together soon to discuss the new edition of Mother Jones over chai tea and avocado toast! You old lib, you! 😉

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===> "^ The lefties on this thread (and in the media) need Trump hatred like the rest of us need oxygen. It gives their lives meaning and purpose."

Not just the lefties buddy, most normal folk feel the same way.
In all honesty the MAGA cult won the election, why would they be pushing so hard if they won. My own personal belief is they have a terrible inferiority complex.
That’s the true Trump Derangement Syndrome.
So sorry y’all feel that way
BTW I don’t really care what Trump does, its just so much fun watching the meltdown of the MAGA cult

Did anyone ever consider the possibility of Trump doing this just to create the inane reactions the left seems to love and has no intention of doing any of this? I feel that I can be quite aggravating if I set my mind to it and as such I do to other lawyers as Trump does to progressives, having learned that pissing off my opponents and causing them to focus on how much they hate me, instead of the matter at hand, makes them terrible at doing what they're actually supposed to be doing.

Ba ha ha! That’s funny Drew…

I voted for trump twice, couldn’t stomach him after his huesteria after losing by the election in ‘20. People show their true character in defeat. Suprisingly as a registered a Republican voter I couldn’t pull the trigger again because I consider myself a normal
Person. Therefore MAGA being outside of the norms. A lot of people here spend way too much time consuming media without much purpose in their lives to occupy them. Sad

@ski well that is the $50 question with trump: is he crazy like a fox or just crazy?

It’s a convenient way to explain bad behavior when the alternative is unsettling.

@rick d - I agree with all of what you said, including Trump throwing a bitch fit in 20 to give Dems the Senate. He's a narcissistic prick but at least he's a conservative narcissistic prick.

I don't know if Trump actively tries to steal their souls, or if Trump is just their pretext to let their inner freak out. They treat being unhinged at Trump as a mark of pride!

@25 - You're a lefty in denial. Touch grass and you'll see who is melting down. Hint, it's the left.