review comment
a month ago
w.r.t. girls not taking off their clothes during dances; this can be an issue in these small-hood-spots were many of the girls think all they have to do is shake-their-ass and that's all (and some dancers don't give a s*** and just want to do the bare-min).
My M.O. is to wait till the 2nd-song (so they know I'm buying more than one dance) and ask them if they can take off their top ( or bottoms) although this was my M.O. when dances were $5; with dances now $10 I probably just wait till halfway thru the 1st song to ask them to take-it-off (top or bottoms; although I'm more of a titty'man and the bottoms-on is not a big-deal for me - I have also experienced a better-grind when the dancer keeps her bottoms-on although I do prefer the bottoms to be as small.as possible).
Bottoms-line is in these spots one needs to learn to ask for what they want and not let these dancers up to their own-devices.
review comment
a month ago
These small hood-spots are a bit of a different-animal that one needs to learn to navigate with experience in them. There can be some really cool-dancers; and some nasty-b*****s one needs to learn to pick-up-on and avoid although it's not always easy to know who's-who. One is def on their own in these kinda-spots so one needs to be observant of the vibe/different-girls and not have their-guard completely down in these spots.
Thanks for the write-up.
review comment
a month ago
Nice write-up 👍 - these small neighborhood-spots usually don't get a lot of airtime on TUSCL.
Pre-Covid, floor-dances were $5 with good-2-way-contact but song-lengths were a crapshoot (songs could be cut at around a minute-long (maybe even less) depending on the Dj; which was frustrating if trying to get lots of dances (which I use to enjoy doing when I was clubbing mostly pre-Covid).
discussion comment
5 months ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
I've been in SC-retirement for almost 2.5-years; not sure when/if I'll un-retire.
Been a bit under-the-weather the last 2-days so decided to fire-up TUSCL to help w/ the current-isolation till I feel better and get out of the house.
discussion comment
5 months ago
My SC-history is a little rusty after a 2.5-year SC-hiatus - but if I recall; for the most-part dancers had to be 21 in clubs that sold alcohol which in FL is probably almost all-clubs - bc of this I don't think there were many FL clubs w/ under-21 dancers
discussion comment
5 months ago
There may be a half-white/half-thai baby jackslash running around in 9-months
discussion comment
5 months ago
YOLO on steroids
I guess when one gets to a certain age, the risk-reward curve shifts
review comment
5 months ago
if u scan the Vivide-reviews you’ll notice most reviews are for dayshift; i.e. Vivide’s “claim to fame” has mostly to do w/ its dayshift.
There are clubs that have a staff-person keeping track of the dances – in these types of clubs a custy pays the staff-person and the staff-person then pays the dancer – this setup makes it less-likely to get ripped-off w/ the song-count but this setup is not common in ATL – in clubs w/ no staff-person dance-counter; one has to be on their toes b/c it’s nof if you’ll get overcharged/overcounted but when.
My M.O. when I was clubbing was to tell the dancer upfront before we started the dances to let me know every time she started a new song (and even then some of these girls still try to overcount u) – this method can be a bit hard when there is a language-barrier but it can be done.
discussion comment
5 months ago
I’m all for getting kinky in a strip-club; but this takes it to a … whole … other … level
discussion comment
5 months ago
@jackslash
How many trips have you done to Pattaya and/or Thailand?
discussion comment
5 months ago
I’m not into Asian-chicks but somehow every now and then Pattaya PL-vids come across my youtube recommended list (I assume b/c every now and then I like to watch youtube vids about expat-living abroad).
Anyway – watching those Pattaya vids and the views of the streets I was amazed at how many foreigners are in Pattaya; especially amazed how many older foreign-men I saw in the vids (foreign-dudes seemed to outnumber the local-dudes at least in the vids I saw).
Seems the foreigners are not only visitors but a good # are living there (whether for a period of time or fulltime) – from the vids I’ve seen; many of the foreigners living there are either retirees; or remote-workers (many seem to do content-creation/youtube-vids) – from the vids I’ve seen; Pattaya seems to be popular w/ retirees from the UK and Australia (although I assume there are PLs/retirees from all over the world living-the-life in Pattaya).
Below is a youtube-channel I’ve seen a few-times of a retiree living in Pattaya (I think he’s Brittish?):
https://www.youtube.com/@ThailandBound/videos
review comment
7 months ago
I’ve been out of the SC-game for 2+ years; but my 2-cents w.r.t. prices are:
1) nights at popular clubs (e.g. Cheetah; etc) there tends to be more hustle w.r.t. prices – this is especially more-so on weekend eves b/c:
a) plenty of fish (custies) in the sea – if there is a full-house of PLs in the house, dancers feel more comfortable a$king for a premium (if a custy passes on her quote; there is a full-house of PLs she can hit up (the ole supply and demand)
b) nights; particularly weekend eves; are often filled w/ inexperienced/infrequent SCers that are more easy to hustle (overcharge/over-quote) b/c they often don’t know any better
2) w.r.t. pricing – my M.O. when I was SCing was never to ask a dancer for a price; that IMO often leaves one open to being over-quoted since many-a-dancer will often assume u don’t know any better (will take u as a clueless newbie/infrequent SCer) – my M.O. when I was clubbing was to familiarize myself w/ the club (mainly TUSCL reviews) so I knew what the going-rate$ were – thus if I wanted to negotiate a room w/ a dancer, I *wouldn’t* ask her “how much?”; I’d say something along the lines of “wanna do a room for 300?” (or w/e the going-rate for the particular-club is) – that lets her more-or-less know I know the deal w.r.t. the particular club
By no means is my method foolproof; but it usually worked “for me” – “for me” meaning that when I was clubbing I was a “variety guy” meaning I rarely needed to have any one particular dancer (if one didn’t accept my “going-rate-offer” I was ok w/ moving onto someone else; especially in a club w/ multiple dancers to my liking) – if I did “have to have” a particular dancer; I’d still offer the going-rate; if she said “no” I would go up by $50 or $100 at the most; and if she still said “no” then I was ok w/ finding someone else.
Again; my method is not foolproof; and other TUSCLers are experienced enough to just “go w/ the flow” w/o having to do what I do.
Finally – I also avoid getting a room w/o first “test driving” a dancer first w/ a lap-dance or two – “my M.O.” is that if the dances don’t go well; then IME often times neither will VIP – but again this is not a “foolproof” method either and in popular clubs like the “Pompano Big 3” dancers usually follow-thru in the rooms w/o having to do a lap-dance test-run.
You’ll probably have better luck avoiding nightshift if u can or a least weekend nightshift (at least till u get better at negotiating)
review comment
8 months ago
“… I noticed, dance prices are now $26 per song, like wtf? So Either u end up tipping $4 on one dance or u can be "that guy" and ask for change or do $55 for 2 $80 for 3 etc …”
I haven’t been in Tootsies since b/f Covid – but unless it’s changed, there were some “bank-teller style” windows in the left-corner of the main-room where one could easily and quickly get-change/brake-bills into w/e denomination one wanted (these teller-windows where kinda behind and to-the-left of the main-stage so were kinda out-of-view).
review comment
8 months ago
“… Welcome back Papi! But since when have you been looking for cute spinners …”
Thanks for the shoutout
Spinners have never been my preferred type but I’ll get dances w/ them if I can’t find curvy/voluptuous dancers – pre-Covid I was a very-avid SCer and liked hitting different-clubs – Tootsies was not part of my regular-rotation but I did like the club and I would visit Tootsies every-now-and-then when I just wanted to hang in a nice/spacious club - for the most-part I liked how spread-out/spacious Tootsies is and liked the overall layout and vibe – I’m also not that big into stage-shows in general but of the SoFlo clubs I used to hit I felt Tootsies had the best stage-setup if one wanted to sit stage-side (at the rail).
Thus although Tootsies was not my club-of-choice when I wanted to get my PL-freak-on; (pre-Covid) I’d visit occasionally when I was just wanted to be out-of-the-house for a while and not necessarily too-hard-up for SCing (I’d sometimes hang in the back sports-bar and watch a game of interest and have a couple-of-drinks and sometimes order some food from their kitchen and spend an afternoon or evening chillin’ at Tootsies).
review comment
8 months ago
I’m currently in strip-club retirement (haven’t clubbed much post-Covid-lockdowns and haven’t clubbed at all in 2-years; I have also mostly stepped-away from TUSCL); thus my comments should be taken w/ a grain-of-salt.
I visited EI from out-of-town back in 2019 (i.e. my info is def dated) – but back then Sundays had reduced lap-dance-prices – my 2019-visit was over a weekend where I visited EI Fr/Sat/Su – on that visit way-back, I def had a better-time on my Fr/Sat visits, and not that good a visit on my Su visit - during my long-ago visit I surmised that the reduced-dance-price on Su actually took-away from the experience (it was more-crowded w/ custies; and seemed the better-dancers that I had seen on Fr/Sat didn’t show-up on Su perhaps b/c they didn’t wanna be making less-money on the dances???).
Again – my info being so-dated; unlikely what I’ve mentioned still applies since clubs def change over-time and many clubs def changed (and never recovered their past-glory), post-Covid – but perhaps if u guys try a Fr or Sat visit maybe it may be a bit better???
review comment
8 months ago
In the past when it was $25/LD, one paid the LD-area attendant and he gave the dancer $20 and $5 went to the club – w.r.t. the $26 price I “assume” either:
1) the club wants to make an extra buck per dance - but one would think if the wanted/needed the revenue that badly, they’d just increase the price to $30
2) perhaps the club wants to increase the dance-price to $30 and trying to do so little by little as to not turn-off customers
3) perhaps the club wants the LD-area-attendant to get some kinda tip and the extra buck goes to him
IDK the reason for the $26 price; but I think #3 above kinda makes the most-sense.
review comment
8 months ago
^ “… Interesting that Tootsies and Cheetah Hallendale allows some extras ….this place Nothing and it’s the same owner …”
AFAIK it’s a city (Hallandale) ordinance – as the story-goes, in the late-2000s Cheetah Hallandale was so wild the city shut-it-down and it remained closed for a couple of years – when it reopened I believe it was under the condition of no private-rooms – Scarlett’s has private-rooms but has cameras thus I’m not sure what the specific ordinance is whether it’s “no private-rooms” or “private rooms but w/ cameras that the city can ask to see” (I assume the latter and Cheetah didn’t want the camera-evidence so it opted for no-rooms?) – I wasn’t a clubber in SoFlo back then so not sure how it exactly went down buy I recall the stories from when I joined TUSCL in 2012.
review comment
8 months ago
When I was a clubber in the past, I usually avoided clubs on Friday and Saturday eves (I had the flexibility to hit the clubs on other days, including on dayshift which w/ time became my preferred time to hit the clubs) – in the past if I hit a club on Fr or Sat eve, it would either be a club that wasn’t one of the popular ones, and/or a club that was one of the bigger/more-spacious ones (Diamond Dolls is too-small to hit on a peak-night and for me it takes away from the-experience/my-enjoyment – the hustle is also at its peak in most clubs on Fr/Sat eves which for me also takes away from the experience).
review comment
8 months ago
Seems like you didn’t do your homework/due-diligence and didn’t read enough reviews to know that Vivide-dayshift vs Vivide-nightshift might as well be 2 different-clubs in 2 different-locations (nightshift vs dayshift are that different and skimming the reviews one can see most are of dayshift visits) – Vivide “is Vivide” b/c of its dayshift certainly not b/c of its nightshift - you didn't pick the wrong day; u picked the wrong time.
discussion comment
8 months ago
“… At the end of the day u are there for your enjoyment and spending money to enjoy yourself …”
IMO – all one owes a dancer (besides not acting like an ahole just b/c one is paying her) is fair-payment for services-rendered – as far as I’m concerned she doesn’t owe me anything more than what I’m paying-for/we-agreed-to and I don’t owe her any money I rather spend differently in the club – at the end of the day we are both there for our specific reasons/needs (she has hers and I accept/know that; and I have mine and we try to meet somewhere in the middle if we can) -
discussion comment
8 months ago
When I was clubbing I wasn’t much of an OTCer – but to “state the obvious”; first-and-foremost “OTC deal breaker” is a dancer wanting the OTC-money upfront (or part of it) as a condition for the future OTC meetup (something newbie-PLs can fall for and get taken).
Other than this – if all I’ve done w/ her in the club is get LDs, and I want more than that OTC; then one should specify their OTC expectations as part of the upfront-negotiation - basically anything I’d def want/have-to-have OTC that I haven’t done ITC/VIP; probably kosher to iron-out upfront – o/w if I’m happy w/ what we’ve done in VIP, then I’d likely just go w/ the flow during OTC.
I’d also def iron-out the payment upfront – and my M.O. is pretty-much never to ask a dancer for a price for anything – when I was clubbing-regularly I usually knew what a fair-price for things were (given the particular club and/or region) and I’d “state my price” vs asking a dancer for hers – e.g. I’d say something like “is $300 good for you”, or something like that; vs asking her something like “how much for us to meet outside”; etc.
discussion comment
8 months ago
“... how do you handle what to me was an awkward moment …”
There’s no easy way – at the end of the day strippers are “sales people” and no salesperson will be happy losing a customer/income – all one can do is say it politely but not be a pussy about it b/c some of these girls will try to guilt-trip/manipulate a PL (some PLs resort to hitting a different club to avoid “the awkwardness”).
At the end of the day u are there for your enjoyment and spending money to enjoy yourself - clubbing is already expensive enough when one is spending on the dancers one wants to be with w/o having to “subsidize” dancers whose feelings one does not want to hurt.
Dancers know the deal and know most custies like to “play the field” whether it’s sooner or later; so it’s not as if one is hurting their feelings (especially the vets) – at the of the day it’s part of the biz and both experienced-dancers and experienced-custies know this and accept this as part of clubbing
discussion comment
a year ago
Even w/ my lack of SCing-interest since late-2021, I kinda still kept posting on TUSCL mainly out-of-habit – but w/ my lack of SCing-interest, TUSCLing started to feel more and more like a moot-point/endeavor – but I kinda kept doing-it out-of-habit.
As @wildRover pointed above, it’s fallen to me to look-after my 86 y/o aunt – my aunt had lived w/ us (my immediate family) since the mid-80s after she got divorced but she never had children – she had been living w/ my mom till my mom passed-away in 2021 – now my aunt lives-alone for the first time and I look-after all her affairs including going by her apartment a few times per week usually around dinner-time b/c she kinda needs the company (I live 8-blocks from her so it’s doable).
Anyway – there have been some issues w/ my aunt that needed extra attention/time in the last month or so and that was the main-reason I stepped away from TUSCL for a bit to tend to those things – but this TUSCL-break was good so I could “break the TUSCL habit” and I’ll likely not-post-much going-forward for the time-being – I have a hard-time w/ moderation and if I post “just a little” on TUSCL, knowing-me I’ll probably get sucked-into over-posting as in the past.
Anyway – when I stopped SCing in late-2021, it was meant to be a break vs quitting SCing altogether (SCing retirement) – but as is stands right-now IDK when, or if, I’ll become an SCer again … and the same kinda goes for TUSCLing (time for a new-generation of PLs to pick-up-the-mantle 😎).
discussion comment
a year ago
As for me personally – I had started posting several years ago (even b/f Covid), that I was starting to get burned-out w/ SCing – looking-back I assume this was b/c, as I’ve often posted in the past, I’m a variety-SCer – for most of my SCing-career I would get more-excited when I was in a new/different club (as long as the club to my liking), vs hitting the same-club over-and-over again even if it was a club I liked – and similarly, I would get more excited when being w/ new (to me) dancers (as long as they were my type) vs being w/ the same/repeat dancers on most visits even if I liked those dancers.
I guess after a while, and w/ as much SCing as I was-doing/have-done, there wasn’t much “newness” to experience and I guess this is part of what started making SCing feel kind meh/same-ole-same-ole for me.
By 2018/early-2019 I kinda accepted SCing wasn’t doing it for me as much as in the past and I started to wind-down my SCing a bit (at least as compared to previous-years) – part of that wind-down was decreasing my local-SCing and taking some SC-trips to clubs that had been on my PL-bucketlist and I hadn’t gotten around to (or had not been to in a while).
I kinda did that in 2019 although I didn’t get around to doing all the bucketlist SCs (I only had so much time and funds to do SC-trips) – then Covid came along and kinda threw things off track.
I stopped SCing in early-2020 b/c of Covid, and didn’t start SCing again till about April 2021 (after my 2nd Covid vax) – IMO the small-black-dives I used to mostly hit (and enjoy) had a harder time getting back to their pre-Covid levels vs the big/popular mixed-clubs (e.g. the Pompano big-3; etc) – thus I wasn’t enjoying my post-Covid 2021 SCing I assume in part b/c I didn’t find my local-black-dives as good as pre-Covid.
Post-Covid I SCed from ‘April till late September of 2021 – and I had started to hit the mixed-clubs more since my local-black-dives were not doing it for me post-Covid – Cheetah-Hallandale started to sorta become my go-to in 2021 post-Covid b/c IMO/IME it had the best-dance-mileage and IMO pretty-good dancer variety (small girls; thick girls; etc).
Then in late-September 2021 I was at Cheetah-Hallandale on a late-weekday-afternoon and I got into-it w/ a Cuban-ROB – she got the bouncer involved – he told me to pay-up or leave; I chose the latter – by this time I was feeling like the SCing-juice was starting to feel not worth the squeeze (the negatives of SCing (ROBs; expen$e; etc) were starting to feel like they were outweighing the positives).
After the Cheetah-Hallandale ROB-experience in September-2021 I decided to shut-it-down for the rest of the year and take a break – then in 2022 I started having some health-issues that kinda made me feel like SCing even less - my health-issues were not major/life-threatening, just multiple things that took-away from me feeling my best and that further took-away my desire for SCing.
The longer I went w/o SCing actually the less-desire I had for it – I had not SCed since late-September-2021 till a couple of weeks ago when I was driving home south-on-95 on a late-Saturday-afternoon and decided to finally hit a club to see if a visit would “re-spark my SCing-interest” – I didn’t really enjoy it and I kinda felt like a fish-out-of-water and that visit kinda cemented the fact that at least for now SCing is not doing it for me (seems more of a me-thing vs something being wrong w/ the clubs).