Factors In The Decline of Strip Clubs

Well…for one thing, my best bud the dugan…my brother from a hairless ape mother…has had responsibilities that have taken him away from clubbing.

This has meant that the only ricks regularly clubbing have been yours truly, the vulture, the cheese stick, and the coconut crab.

Do you think so few ricks can inject sufficient rickness into the nationwide club scene. Alas, it is challenging.

Maybe if some of the gimboids of the world (and y’all know who they are) stopped clubbing the relative amount of rickness would be sufficient to rejuvenate the club scene, but the chance of that are slim to none. Gimboids gonna gimboid after all.

ROAR!!!

Ugh. The only topic more well trodden than the pants discussion.

Let me see... first people will start with some reactionary garbage about how Gen Z doesn't drink or go out anymore. (This is false. I live in a college town and the bars are full of em). Then, of course, the obligatory tirade about "back in my day, men were actually men!!!!"

Next there's the shifting of sex work from stripping to OnlyFans. (This one actually has some truth to it. But post-COVID I feel it's primarily affected the amount of white dancers. OF's userbase is majority white so the newly immigrated influx of Cuban dancers can't really take advantage of it)

Lastly, gentrification. Clubs in the "seedy" parts of town are suddenly finding themselves surrounded by luxury condos and overpriced restaurants. These residents don't want to see adults only clubs in their area. Club owners get offered increasing amounts of cash until they finally give in. Atlanta right now is a prime example of this.

Clubs declining? No doubt about it. BTW what pants should I wear when visiting a depressing declining strip club?

Look this is simple. Girls can now get money for sending pics and videos to guys. Girls no longer have the need to sit on a dick, suck a cock, fuck an old man for money. They now get money for sending pictures with NO CONTACT. The hotter the girl, the more they can make on onlyfans. therefore this leaves the bottom of the barrel girls for the club.

Primarily economics. IMO, clubbing has never recovered from the 2008 contraction. People just have less disposable income post-2008, which means less money to spend in clubs. Less money in clubs means less incentive for top shell dancers to work in club. If a top shelf dancer can monetize just looking good via OF or other, then she's going to monetize that instead. Inflation isn't helping. I get that $20 in 2000 dollars is almost $40 in today's buying power... but increasing costs and decreasing disposable income don't mix. Lot's of clubs have increased there cuts and/or stage fees so dancers have to pay out more to work further discouraging talent to work clubs. IMO clubs are a bit K shaped in their own way. You see increased prices and decreased services. I suppose I'm just old, but if I have to increase my spending, I expect increased ROI. But I'm not 2x or more my costs for 1/2 or less mileage. I know I vote with my wallet. Spending more at "better" clubs means less money and less incentive for lame clubs.

Less disposable income, as mjx01 mentioned, due to the economic contraction after the 2008 crisis combined with inflation leading to higher prices is a major factor. I started going to strip clubs in 2010-2011 and in my early years visiting them had several strippers tell me business was better before 2008.

The decline in strip club attendance is also related to something else. Over the last 20 years studies have found a decline in socializing and attendance at social events like parties. There has been a decline in attendance at cultural events like concerts, movies and art exhibits. There has been a decline in going to what are called "third places" like parks, libraries and cafes. Fewer people going to strip clubs is just part of this larger trend. This may not be a good thing because in some cases it can lead to increased feelings of social isolation and poorer mental health. You see more drug and alcohol abuse along with more suicides in recent decades.

Look at how the oldest page of TUSCL discussions is just bursting with positive energy: tuscl.net . Yeah, it's a mystery how those good old days could so easily fade away.

This is like reason 100001, but civilian women (especially ugly fat lesbians) at them making them feel non-sexual.

^ Ugh.... I hate seeing civvy women as customers in strip clubs. Fortunately for me, I go to dirty, nasty, hole-in-the-wall joints, almost exclusively, so it's not something I've encountered much.

Nobody likes my answer.

But I maintain that I think one of the contributing factors to the decline of strip clubs is today's music. Now, I'm a fan of today's music. But in the past, in my case, the stripclubs I visited in the 90s were playing R&B and soul for a majority of the time, rap for the minority of the time. When dancers did a 3-song set, back in the day, it was a 3 song set of r&b or soul. Which inspired the dancer to move seductively, teasingly, it gave you something to watch.

Today's music takes the inspiration to move seductively, out. Especially if it's trap. And I love trap music. But there's no seduction, no sensuality in trap. Today's music with its gimmick TikTok dances, which are cute, do not translate into seductive, adult art.

We don't realize it, but what sustains stripclubs is actual dancing. I thought about it one day and noticed: the top money earners in a stripclub, matched the best dancers. If she was pretty or a baddie AND could dance? Dynamite.

Look: completely remove dancing altogether from Michael Jackson and Chris Brown and maybe even James Brown...and who are they? What is their music if you completely erased dancing from it?

I feel like patrons give money at stripclubs to watch someone DANCE. We don't admit it. We don't think about it seriously, but really, that's what it is. How else did / do topless stripclubs survive all this time? Or table dance stripclubs? It stripclubs that offered no lap dancing, how did they survive all those years. Not sex. Only. It's dancing.

As humans we love to watch other humans dance. But proper music is needed to inspire certain dancing. I think stripclubs gained more popularity when certain music was playing and dancers put on a show, flexibility, complexity, grace, sensuality, adult, art. We need the music to match the dancing. The eyes wanna see something. The wallet wants to pay for visual graceful art. But we need the inspiring music to groove the ladies.

There was this one youngin baddie, early 2000s who could naturally dance. No dance classes, no ballet moves, just naturally move hips like a woman. She was in her 20s, looked like she could be Ashanti's younger cuter sister when Ashanti just came out. She moved so naturally, so gracefully she vibed with a beat, no corniness, no childishness, all adult. Young lady got ALL my money. Shed be blushing because I'd be watching her so intently when she'd dance. But it was the music at the time inspiring her to move that way.

My opinion, it's all about the dance. And the proper music to match it. If it's not there, how I look like shelling out 20 dollar bills for a chick to twerk or do Tik Tok dances that strangely look like dramatic sign language. No I need lil mama to move like a seductive adult, sensual adult with a mean soundtrack.

I'm a black dude. Who hits up black strip clubs mostly. But I'll of course check out any stripclub, any town, anywhere. Bet.

Man, I'm in a Florida strip club somewhere in the 90s and this white chick is dancing to 'Silent Lucidity' i forget the rock group who sang it. I was familiar with the song. But to see someone dance to it? Still etched in my memory decades later. That was like a mini movie watching her dance to 'Silent Lucidity' alone on stage. You can tell she practiced. I deeply appreciate that. And Florida was the perfect place to see someone dance to that. It was during college spring break, probably 90s. That whole performance of hers was stunning. That's what's missing IMO from today's stripclubs. Especially since the sing was out at that time, to be like ok lemme see your interpretation your take on this sing that just came out. Oh, ok! Watching today's chick do a set with that 90s song, yeah, whatever. Ya wanna see ladies take on the songs that just came out and we need better songs to come out now. And I love today's music. But yesteryears music was more stripclub inspiring imo.

^^ Great dancing 🙂 while stripping- yeah 😋

Reading the last several posts was like a fan of steak restaurants reading several posts that bloviated about salads. As I go to steak eateries for a good steak and not so much the salad, I go to strip clubs to view T&A and get high mileage intimate VIP dances. Getting a so-so salad won't drive me away from a particular restaurant as much as not getting a tasty, juicy steak would. While I recognize that today's mindless twerking, mirror swaying, etc. are a decline from prior well-choreographed dance routines and awesome pole work, I can overlook that to a certain degree if the main course (good high mileage VIPs) is good. Like other posters, I've noticed a decline in dancer quality and an uptick in prices. My number of club visits has declined over the last few years. The stage dance factor is down a ways on my list of reasons why. If OP wants to partake in viewing good dance routines, there are a plethora of other venues besides a strip club where he can do so, just as there are other places besides a steak restaurant where one can get a good salad.

Gothamyte exactly! A few of the best times I ever had with a daytime stripper started with her performance on stage while making eye contact with me. Something about that gets me hard as a rock. This was one of my favorite things about daytime when the crowd is sparse - a dancer will focus in on you. Happens occasionally now but not like 10-15 years ago.

minnow, then you are missing the entire point of a steak restaurant. Cooking a a steak is a very easy thing to do very well. Furthermore, it isn't exactly hard to find a well aged steak to take home and cook. The point of a steak house is (1) the service and (2) the side dishes that are a pain to make at home. You shouldn't go to a steakhouse for the steak, you go for the experience, which includes the sides the service and the joy of expensing it. Anyone can make an equally good steak with very easily.

bbb missed the point of my post- I only used steak restaurant as an analogy to fixating on things other than dancers and mileage which is what one poster did.

Covid was a huge factor. In the city where I lived during and the aftermath, 1 of the 2 or 3 clubs I used to frequent a lot eventually shut down within a year after Covid calmed down. And 1 of the other clubs was significantly worse with way worse dancers than I remember and most of my favorites not working there anymore. Even the city I live now and used to visit a lot pee-Covid, and remember the clubs jumping with hot dancers and now they are dead more often with lesser talent.