If I get enough dances with a girl, I'm usually good I don't need OTC/ITC

I concur. I had this experience recently where I've been super turned on by LD's that the fantasy of needing OTC/ITC was not there. By the end of dances you are interested in the next hot girl.

Can't agree. If ITC ir OTC isn't possible, I'm not into it.

ITC is now just boring cramped 2nd or 3rd tier sex to me and OTC is something I consider less than advocating for Hamas.

muddy. I think your attitude is getting hardened.

All power to the premature ejaculators of the world. I envy your ability to blow your load simply from a dry hump. You get to enjoy a bevy of different women without ever leaving economy class. You've found a way to turn a condition that causes much frustration in vanilla dating into something that can benefit you. Godspeed I say.

But for the rest of us, it's just an appetizer at best. Indeed I find them so boring nowadays that I'd rather tip a girl for barside entertainment than go into a LD room.

The post nut clarity after the LDK is astounding. You realize you didn't even necessarily need pussy you just needed a quick release before going about your day.

Proper set of lap dances are way hotter than average CFS

^ not even close

It's all an evolution with some of us. What turned you on yesterday might not be the same today. And then there are some who are content with that same lane. For me, it depends on the vibe with the specific woman. I do find that many in the newer club of dancers lack many of the socials skills from ladies from the past. This is a generalization but from my recent experiences, it's trending.

Maybe if I looked more like an iPhone I would get fondled a lot more during my lap dances?

^^ 🙂

As others said, good for you. Glad that makes you happy. For me, it's the other direction. If I get more than a few dances, it's cause I want more than just a few dances. It's a struggle to not over-reach to get them in bed.

I don't really get the shiny new toy thing. If it's good, I want more. Usually what makes me stop is they change somehow. They get fat, lazy, or both. Or they find a better customer and ditch me. Or move on to a new occupation. But I find when I move on to a new girl for the sake of her being new, I often go back to the last good one.

I don't fret when good pussy goes bad, I agree that there is always more out there. But I'm not one to move on to the next thing just cause its new. Often times I end up replacing the outgoing one with a very similar one.

I mostly keep an eye out for new options because I know at any point one of the current girls I see may disappear, and I don't like not having good options available. That's what leads to bad decisions.

Usually if I want VIP or OTC and it’s possible I’ll stop getting dances and move things along so it won’t get to that point.

If its going to be mechanical, restricted sex with all kinds of rules like no touching the nipple, no touching pussy, then you may as well stick to lapdances.

Some girls arent into OTC, but will do lapdances. Its still nice to get a lapdance and at least be able to see and touch their T & A.
But it all depends what your into. For me the most important aspect, even more than me getting a release is doing DATY. That can be difficult since you need someone somewhat open to GFE. Dances should be used as a foreplay into getting more OTC or ITC.

This is the way, godspeed Muddy

Back in the day the single worst thing a young male could ever be called, by far, was a "minute man". If you blew a load too soon while you were fucking, and we were all going bareback back then, your sex life was over. I did everything possible to train myself to last forever, without understanding that it got harder to blow a load as we aged. I have never and cannot ever, ldk. Not a physical possibility. It's difficult enough for me to blow a load in a 15 min bbjcim with a 10. Anyone else care to chime in on why you can or cannot ldk?

I'm too fucking old for that shit!

Amen Shadowcat!!!