Tesla arson suspect

oops, front room. Trolls, flame on!

Absolutely! We now have Hegseth, Miller, Waltz, Witkoff, and Vance making sure the administration is very transparent. Musk is doing an amazing job....figuring out which jobs were too hastily cut, and then rehiring. Staying on top of things right there.

I look forward to the continued success of our country under Republican leadership in all three branches of government.

I'm going to step out and go car shopping before the end of the month now. Tesla's seem to be quite reasonably priced.

no, I don't support domestic vandalism based on political ideology any more than you do.

^ Keep deflecting, lib cope squad captain.

Get caught firebombing anything as a political statement - go to the underwear jail in El Salvador.

Any sneaky pussy coward who keys a car should be castrated and made to eat their genitals.

Kristi Noem at CECOT in El Salvador - priceless torture to the inmates.

Anyone else find Noem hot? I know she killed a dog which disgusts me but on a purely physical level damn she’s sexy.

Yes she’s sexy as hell

Progressives are literally the worst human beings on earth. Government has been fucked up for far too long. Whenever you have to tear down something broken, things get messy. The Progressive's complaint that Trump failed to clean up the mess fuck ups Biden/Obama left in 3 months, just shows how stupid they are.

Less personal insult hurling and more discussion would be good regardless of where one sets on the political spectrum. I agree government has major flaws, don't care if you are liberal or conservative. But 'burning it down' is the act of an administration who just wants to make their base happy as opposed to one who might aggressively audit all of the major agencies and THEN decide what actually needs to be cut.

ps ... If anyone is just happy because you see the actions punishing the liberal side of the spectrum, your head is in the sand, because it's already affecting everyone (lets take cuts to the VA - notoriously already difficult for patients. If you think cutting 80,000 jobs isn't going to throw it into chaos, force out already overworked providers, and ruin service for the people who protect our country - then either you are not paying attention to things or you are, in fact, an idiot)

^ Personal insult hurling is the norm. Sticks and stones, they say. Vandalism and firebombing are not cricket. This seems to be the left's MO when things don't go their way (no, Jan 6 is not equivalent). Summer 2020, now Teslas. But worse than the property damage is literally menacing Tesla drivers at stop signs. You have grown ass men thinking it's OK to get out and intimidate women with kids at stop signs because of Musk and Trump.

I'd rather see the reduction in the size of government in a more streamlined, less chaotic way like Bill Clinton did. I don't want to "own the libs" because the pendulum always swings and they'll start doing stupid shit to "own the cons." But the left hasn't shown any desire to cooperate or even to add to the discussion. In fact, the left's whole platform is to mindlessly oppose anything Trump does, and act like every penny of federal government spending is essential. For example, all the subsidies of higher education; universities with deca-billion dollar endowments are crying bloody murder over not getting federal funding, talking about how they're going to have to cut so many jobs when those jobs would be a rounding error in their endowments. Or the Department of Education as a whole; if it were held to outcomes in the same way as the private sector, it would have been shuttered decades ago.

Democrats say they want to increase government efficiency as well, yet in power, all they do is bloat the bureaucracy. Agree with it or not, Trump is executing on his campaign agenda more than any other president in my lifetime (including Trump's first term). He's doing exactly what he had promised, which included DOGE and using Musk to streamline the government. Therefore, the American people explicitly voted to do so. Democrats can start contributing thoughtfully and meaningfully, or just keep flinging their shit and not have any input.

"Less personal insult hurling, and if you don't agree with me, you are an idiot?" Liberal hypocrisy.

Liberals are not being punished for being liberals. Liberals are being arrested for committing vandalism, arson, property damage, and acts of terror. Bloated government bureaucracies are not being audited for being liberal boated bureaucracies, they are being audited for efficiency and productivity to reduce government deficit spending and the tax burden on American taxpayers. Why are liberals against prosecuting criminals and a small, responsive government beholden to the voting taxpayer? Because it takes away their power. They need criminals in the street terrorizing people who support MAGA and purchase Musk's products. They need giant government bureaucracies to control and smother the opposition. Liberals are all about obtaining and keeping power to protect their self-enriching schemes and maintain their access to entitlements. That affects everyone, and it is your head that is in the sand.

I think the problem is there isnt enough of it. Fuck Teslas. Fuck president Musk

^ Tesla vandalism is Democrat on Democrat crime. If they vandalized Republicans' pickups, they wouldn't live to post it on TikTok.

If you catch someone keying your car not a jury in the country would blame you for anything that happened to them as a result.

If the V.A. cannot work with a reduced workforce, fire them all and start over with people who want cushy government jobs with a pension. We don't get that in the private sector, and we work 5x harder. Just to be fair I hope the market crashes and loses half its value overnight.

Puddy and Flash. The tesla vandalism is only one part of the equation.

I agree that vandals and arsonists can be attacked. However, plenty of right wingers have attacked people just for holding palestinian flags or having certain viewpoints on the israel hamas conflict. It is ironic even more so when rightwingers do it because so many of them refer to themselves as constitutionalists. They have very strong views on gun rights (secretly and mostly because they want to shoot up immigrants, commies and Muzzies), yet dont believe in the right to free speech, free religion, and freedom to protest and have unpopular beliefs.

Vandalism is nothing new from the left either, they were already doing it with BLM protests. And even many left wingers who werent actively vandals, still argued in support of the vandals.

But the right is supposed to be the party of law and order, anti crime, constitutionalist. Yet guys like skibum, 25, gammanu, perhaps you and a few others, if they see someone walking around wearing a turban, they feel tempted to tear off the turban, spit on the guy and beat him up. Its also ironic because Hindu and Sikh people wear turbans, and have sometimes been targeted by people who thought they were of a different religion.

^ Now THAT is a load even flies wouldn't touch! I've yet to see these guys support violence and hatred. Sure, if you support the BS going on at Columbia, that's a problem for THE Domestic Terrorists trying to effect political change.

I’m more interested in trying to decide whether or not Kristi Noem is hot. She’s obviously had some work done recently but she looked pretty good getting off the plane in El Salvador in a tight white top and jeans. But I keep thinking she’d be like the older chick who you thought was hot as hell while you were drunk and making out with in the club but who’s scary to look at the next morning sober and without makeup, and you can’t get her out of your house fast enough.

Mogul i dont understand your comment or what youre saying regarding Columbia.

I will mention though that the term domestic terrorist, is overused by both the left and right and is often used to refer to people who have an opposing viewpoint or just as an attempt to stifle free speech. Freedom of speech, expression, belief, religion etc means you can technically even support the KKK verbally and beliefs wise, according to the constitution

^That is why the good Lord invented the away game. When you go to bed with a hot woman and wake up with an ugly one, all you can do is go into coyote date mode and get the hell out. For those unfamiliar with the term: A coyote date is where you wake up with a woman do unattractive, that if she is laying on your arm, you just chew it off so you can get the fuck out without waking her. Ahhh college and prostethics.

Srudme53 you mean kill someone who keys yout car? Youd serve time for that.

Skibum. Thats one of the most idiotic things you ever said. That since private workers dont get the work conditions and benefits of federal ones. Federal workers should lose the. Youre saying Americams should all be impoverished by the private sector 🤡💩

Arson is a crime but this sounds more like a whacko with mental health issues than terrorism

^ Too bad: That may be the excuse to get out of serious prosecution/time. He belongs in jail for many years. "Broken Windows" will be the only way to start curbing Domestic Terrorism for effecting political change. Every one of them

@rickmacrodong "I will mention though that the term domestic terrorist, is overused by both the left and right and is often used to refer to people who have an opposing viewpoint or just as an attempt to stifle free speech."

Domestic Terrorism is simply violence, destruction, arson and/or killing to get political change - it happened at Columbia University and others. March all you want, hold protests, have town halls, ect, however, when you physically attack for political change, that's terrorism.

These thugs are causing destruction and arson to Tesla owners. Why should THEY be punished by masked thugs who are spineless cowards, and think they are "victims"?

At Columbia last year, hostages were taken. People were physically attacked. And, from what we have been told, many of the rioters were not even students. Those involved on student visas and Green Cards crossed a line the SoS can deport them. They support Hamas and hate Israel yet they don't want to be deported BACK to the ME or wherever they came from.

^ @rmd routinely tells me I believe things i have never said or even alluded to, and has the moral and intellectual depth of a mud puddle so I don't quibble definitions.

Just because these fat green haired pronoun-spouting shitlords have pale skin and psychiatric delusions (like that they're really the opposite sex) doesn't make what they're doing any less political.

Terrorism charges are about intent. The purpose has to be to coerce or intimidate the public for the furtherance of a set political goal.

The fact that these acts are so spread out and executed by unrelated individuals makes the legal argument that these are just victimless property crimes.

Mogul. Youre the most paranoid most punchable weirdo on here

^ Intent to remove Elon Musk from government? Intent to attack Trump supporters on sight to intimidate them? It fits the definition.
At very least, it's a hate crime.

Mogul,

The problem with your argument is the fact that the term “domestic terrorist” does not only apply to people engaging in vandalism or violence. It also applies to people who have certain political or religious viewpoints.

And thats okay. You can proudly support and encourage deporting people with those differing viewpoints and opinions. But dont claim to be a constitutionalist or pro free speech while doing it.

There are probably less than 10% of the left or right, who actually believe in the constitution.

Rubio himself said that greencard holders are here as guests, and that their greencards can be revoked for any reason. If Rubio himself is essentially admitting that free speech isnt allowed, at least for greencard holders, i dont see why you would need to pretend it does.

Also, there are a bunch on the right who want to spit on people and beat them just for wearing a turban or headscarf

Legally its more complex than that. First off burden of proof is on the prosecution. There needs to be proof tht the defendant intended to commit the act. That there was an intention or specific goal at the moment of committing the offense. But the outcome isnt really proof of intent.

Its not a hate crime.

Ah, poor rich man getting his feelings hurt! Piss off Musk! Screw anyone who thinks he's some sort of a genius!

^ Feelings hurt? It's arson, and fires don't necessarily stay in place.
Trump won. Get over your hurt asshole about it.

I dont know if it’s necessarily left wingers pissed about musk. It could be someone who lost a job because of him.
I can see why some would be pissed but he is doing the right thing cutting the workforce and contracts

It may not be a hate crime, depends on whether political views fall under the hate crime rulings

But Icey, its hilarious how you are going into the nuances of how it depends on the intent of the person involved but if it was the reverse scenario like right on left crime or white on black or client vs dancer you would say we can just assume the intent and its by default a hate crime

Stupidest crime spree ever. The country’s gotta deal with very low IQ culture, passed down the shallow gene pool, generation after generation. It’s destroying or schools, cities and our cultural institutions.
The only ray of hope is the lower rate among the type of people who have the time to do things like protest a Tesla dealership. The guys are low testosterone cucks and the women are mostly ugly.

^Lower birth rate.