Think I’m done with US hookers excluding strip clubs

During my hiatus I’ve been paying hookers from Chicago and Detroit. Mostly from listcrawler & megapersonals. But after my multiple encounters I can’t do this anymore.
Encounter #1
This was in Chicago. I know chi town is known for its gang culture. It’s a dangerous especially if you’re indulging in the underground like hookers and drugs, but my dick was thinking for me. I decided to hit up listcrawler and met up with black chick with a fat ass. I contacted her and we agreed on $200 for hh. Everything seemed good until I pulled up to the hotel. I see multiple thugs or what they call YNs hanging around outside. Should have been a red flag but I went in anyway. I got into the door and she looked rough man but ass was fat. I noticed it was 2 people in the bathroom talking. I asked who it was ? and she said it’s nobody. Then out of no where 2 black guys come out with guns and that’s when I fled.
Encounter #2
After that crazy run in I went back on the list to find another black chick. This one charge 150 for hh. Again pulled up in a dingy ass motel. I don’t know man but i always feel on guard when going on my monger trips. It’s like a feeling that any and everything could go wrong at any moment. Ironically I never feel like this overseas. Any way I meet the chick and of course doesn’t look like her pics at all. Same person but just look like she just rolled out of bed. As I was getting naked she does a line of cocaine. I’m like wtf ?!! Again I hear some body in the bathroom. This time I paid no mind. We did the do and I left.
Encounter #3 (the worst)
Back in the d and did the usual. But this is what really just made me stop using online sites. So I met up with another black girl(Redbone) this time a car date. I picked her up and I could see a car just following us. I told her “do you know who that is” she replied don’t worry about it. Her attitude stank and was very rude. We parked and got to business but as I was in the middle of it this black guy comes knocking on the window with his pistol. I’m thinking “do all these girls have pimps damn”. He tells her she needs to go. She demanded the money and I didn’t want to get shot so I gave it to her. She got in the car and they drove off.
Mongering stateside is not easy or really enjoyable. It’s the constant panic of robbery, pimps and even law enforcement just makes it not worth it. I’d much rather monger at clubs where I don’t have to worry about getting in unnecessary altercations.
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last commentI prefer strippers to escorts for dozens of reasons, but maybe the most important is, I prefer getting to know a lady in person before the deed.
And not to be a dickhead, but, my dude, has it ever occurred to you that maybe you're paying too little? Like for $150-200 HH in the US, I would expect nothing less than the experiences you've described. Not that you can't get robbed by a higher end escort, but I think with an agency or well reviewed escort who charges more market rates, the risk of the things you've encountered are much lower.
You need to use different sites, doubt this would happen with a girl off Tryst who charges more.
Don't do anything in Boston. The local media are having a field day with the names revealed in a high-end brothel bust. Still puritans we are, apparently.
You can't do anything prostitution-related in the US. Not only is it illegal but it's also horrible-quality and dangerous. Just fly to Europe, Canada, or Latin America.
@loper - You're talking about the one in Watertown? I saw that. Of course these AMP's just open under new management down the road. They pop up like mushrooms. NFW I'd do an escort up here.
@Ron
Yes that may be the case but I just expecting the unexpected. You don’t who’s on the other side of that door. I try not to break the bank too much
@Fustrated
Who you telling ? It’s a different vibe overseas. I feel more relaxed and comfortable. Almost like it’s catered for us to come have fun and enjoy. It’s the polar opposite here.
Mr Monger i will dm you. Ill also mention, if youre in the US what you need to do is stick to agency escorts only, unless you have the dough and willingness to pay the pornstars asking $1000 an hour.
There are some well reviewed independent escorts on the tryst webskte that is true. But if youre not willing to pay for review sites like theeroticreview, you need to stick to agency escorts.
The tbing is agencies will generaly be white european girls, latinas, or asians. There arent really any reputable agencies for black girls, nor middle eastern or indian girls. So if you’re looking for black girls, that is your problem. Black girls in general are always more likely to have pimps. The stuff you described in OP is standard ghetto behavior and you would never experience something like that if you were seeing an agency girl or a well reviewed independent girl.
By the way even tbe so called independent girls on tryst who are black, still usually have pimps.
Agency rates are usually $250-$450 for one full hour, depending on whether your seeing asian, white, latina and the agency itself. Usually the girls working the agency only keep half of that.
So if you meet one of those women, get to know them, you could eventually see them for as little as $150-$200 an hour but you would need to cover a hotel or bring them to your place.
If you want fat ass thick women that are safe you pretty much need to stick to latinas and white women. The thing is youll need to pay more for white women. Latinas are often available for $300-$350 an hour with agencies
FaceTime before hand. Ane dont do inhouse.
Have you tried seeking.com?
you sound CLASSY!!
The problem is not US hookers. The problem is your uncanny ability to make bad decisions, endanger yourself, and recklessly seek bottom-of-the-barrel clearance discount ass and expect the experience to be as routine as a beer run.
@Muddy Seeking has clamped down hard. It’s also attracting civvy women who see sugaring in tiktok and think they can just be handed money.
Also, Seeking now has an AI scrape your face biometrics as part of the account signup process. On top of all of that let’s not even mention the scammers who are out to blackmail you.
All that said, yes, Seeking is a viable option.
Red flag after red flag after red flag and you went in anyway? A sea of waving red flags that you ignored and you think the problem is with escorts? I’m going to suggest that you get your eyes checked for color blindness before you get yourself killed.
Monger Ape, the second story would be more entertaining if the people in the bathroom ran out while you were doing the deed and put a big ol’ hoopajoop up your ass. Next time you tell the story you should add that detail. ROAR!!!
If you're going to focus on strippers, do yourself and the girls a favor and recognize that strippers are not escorts. If you try to treat them like you described in your other thread about not falling for stripper games, I wouldn't expect a vastly improved experience.
I've only been having intercourse for 53 years, but the idea that any of these experiences, even if they were great, were worth my time, effort and money is bizarre. So fucked up to pay to have sex with low-level women, with the risk of injury or being robbed.
Escorts and strippers who have black boyfriends are much more likely to be violent and dishonest than ones who have no boyfriends or boyfriends of other races.
Its crazy that the guy came banging a pistol on your car window. In many places you could use lethal force in response to that.
The more you can avoid interaction and self segregate the better. If they dont kill you or rob you, theyll accuse you of being racist, attempt to destroy your career, etc.
Assuming these 3 stories are real, and they sound very legit - I would never try again after the first frightening encounter. If you’re looking for a cheap, black, fat ass, maybe a little ghetto, but in a significantly safer environment, you don’t need to go overseas, grab a cheap flight down to FLL and hit up the Porthole.
I got a permanent ban from Seeking for asking a chick what I needed to do to get her to ride me in her heels.
@farmerguy that is hilarious
===> "The problem is your uncanny ability to make bad decisions, endanger yourself, and recklessly seek bottom-of-the-barrel clearance discount ass"
@Mister monger: Gammanu95 hit the nail on the head. When you hunt for high volume discount pussy advertising cheap "QVs" on places like STG and then ignore the warning signs when you find a bad apple (which are common in your target population), this is the shit you get.
^escorts who offer QV can be problematic, as well as escorts on STG and listcrawler, but i dont think the $150$-200 price range automatically means dangerous or bad. There are a lot of latinas, i know for a fact, in NYC, Miami, and DC who will do a full service GFE for $200 sometimes $150. Some even travel around the east coast when business is slow in their home state.
The issue with listcrawler, and to a certain extent, STG, in my area is that the streetwalkers have discovered that they can charge more for the same service when they post an ad. Or more likely, when they get some simp monger to post the ad for them.
The number of SW level 'tang I've seen on listcrawler lately is astounding. And the number of mongers praising ugly, fat, old, rack marked, rode hard and put up wet women as "beauties" is even more astounding.
Note: I am also ugly, fat, and old, but my rule is that if she's objectively "more" than me in any of those categories, I ain't paying.
And I agree with the others that the problem in your three examples is you. You didn't turn around and walk away when you should have.
GMD i dont understand your comment “The issue with listcrawler, and to a certain extent, STG, in my area is that the streetwalkers have discovered that they can charge more for the same service when they post an ad. Or more likely, when they get some simp monger to post the ad for them.”
The main issue with stg and listcrawler are the prevalence of pimped girls on them. There are asian and latin agency girls who dont charge too much but provide much better service. You can also potentially find dancers for OTC who will provide much better