What do yo talk about with strippers? (cont.)

Oh, sure. That's Stripping 101. If the guy is willing talk to him about sex. In fact the more explicit the better. That'll get him turned on enough to buy a dance. Also try and make him think you are a nympho.

Rather obvious but incredibly effective sales strategies.

I was wrong. chandler has 4 kids not 5 and I got its straight from chandler, so I know that it is true.

Utter inconsequential crap. On rare occasions, something that interests me.

Existentialist philosophy of Sartre, Camus, Kierkegaard and de Unamuno.

LMFAO....not to mention Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Dostoevsky and Soderberg...when all they really want to hear about (and see) are Washingtons......

I enjoy learning about other cultures, about people whose lives are very different from mine. And young strippers are about as different from me as you can get. And so, provided they have some intelligence, and I wouldn't be sitting with them if they didn't, I want to know how they live and what they think, what their everyday world is like. I don't know why but I find it fascinating.

And the fact that she's usually going to be wearing very little doesn't hurt either. In fact I find a girl to be much sexier when she's sitting talking and is oblivious to the fact that she's nearly naked than I do when she's onstage trying to be sexy.

Strippers are adventurers by definition, living on the edge, walking on the dark side, flouting convention and respectability, inhabiting the grey zone between legality and illegality, the scourge of their families, wild-women, outlaws, sensualists and rule breakers. If they had an ounce of intelligence (and most have more) how could they NOT be interesting? They've all got backgrounds and stories worth listening too-it can be a hard-scrabble existence and they are tough survivors with original points of view on a variety of subjects. Just gotta open them up a little.

Um, actually most of us do not find it that interesting to learn about their drug problems, how their boyfriend is in jail for assault, and doesn't want them working there because he is worried she will be a whore, but needs bail money.... their manic-depression or whatever the fuck is wrong with them, or (especially) their stupid mystical beliefs...

Oh god the mystical beliefs ... forgot all about that ...

In Detroit--the Red Wings.

After the very 'surface' stuff, I usually start talking to them about the strip club world, the industry. I find the smart ones know a little bit and would like to know more. They enjoy talking with someone who's been to a lot of clubs and often have many questions about other cities, clubs they've heard of, etc. Along the way, the subject may turn to sex, but that usually happens during a dance or between dances in VIP, when we are both, seemingly at least, turned on. I often ask "what do yo do in Real Life"? If the answer is interesting, we talk more. If it's about an abusive relationship & horrible poverty, I frankly disengage. I don't want to hear about it. If it's about being a coed at a local college and enjoying dancing as an escape & for 'spring break money', I'm all ears. I love talking to dancers as long as they don't start bringing me their real life problems. I have enough of my own!

Often they seem to need to talk about breast implants. The ones who have them want to know how you like them, and want you to guess how old they are or how much they cost. The ones who don't have them want to know whether they should get them. When there's a girl on stage they want to know whether you like her implants or whether you think she should get them. Implants implants implants.

Generally, I try not to talk to them.

I always seem to get pulled into conversations with them about makeup, babies, boyfriends, etc.....all of the girlie stuff. I would rather have a rusty nail hammered thru my eyeball than have to suffer listening to that bullshit. But I found out early on that if I play along and pretend to listen, I will usually get handsomely rewarded when it is lapdance time.

Like everything on this board, it depends, it depends, it depends. If someone is not comfortable with the English language, our conversation is going to be more limited. If I have nothing in common with the person, it's more of a challenge. If I spend more time with the person, gradually people let down their barriers and there is more to discuss. Generally it tends toward talking about "the biz" but not always. Chatting in the bar itself is difficult for me (the background noise, loud music etc. makes it hard for me to hear), but OTC I find I can have real conversations with them. It just depends.

Yea, sex is sometimes a part of the conversation, but maybe that's just for get-acquainted. But after that. Everything is on the table for discussion. I've talked with dancers wbout their life, their kids, their house, their car, their father, what food they like, politics--most anything you would talk to anyone else about. Of course, you have to do some weeding out to have those conversations. For best service, get to know someone. Let them know you.

gk: I agree. I know more shit that goes on in my favorite club than the managers. Why? Because they know me and trust me. I recently showed them proud pictures of my 10 week old grand daughter. Their hearts melted. "I had an abortion last Friday", "the dickhead(boyfriend) is in jail", "my husband is going through heleicopter school","he is back from Iraq","here is my husbands cell number. If you ever need help and can't get hold of me, call him". What do I talk about???