So now that Trump's won the election.... what to expect?

The OP is seeking an objective answer while opening with false assumptions spoon fed him by a biased news media and failed presidential campaign.

Our democracy is over. Our Republic is over. It’s no longer what we had. All for this stupid fat fuck.

His antics will lead to a Democrat congress after midterm elections. Rendering him a lame duck president. Congressional obstructionism will be the best damage control. Even now Democrats can do it.

The big problem is the backward laws that will come about in the red states as he weakens the nation under the premise of state rights.

I am too amped up. I haven't slept. I'm eyeballing that last bottle of Dom, but will save it for the weekend. 2 1/2 bottles of Macallan left. first to ^:
Get over yourself. Trump is a democratically elected presidenial nominee, Kamala was not. Not only has Trump won the electoral vote, but he is on track to win the popular vote as well. He did not destroy the country four years ago, he lifted us out of the Obama malaise and made several steps towards making America great again. Unless you are a DC swamp dweller, you were likely better off four years ago and can look forward to a better life for the next four.

For the OP:
1. Trump will seek retribution for anyone that he "perceived" as wronging him in the past four years. This is not true. He did not "lock her up" even though Hillary deserved it. The democrats broke that model of amicable transitions and goodwill. They did prosecute their opponents. I hope Trump does clean out the deep state and swamp. Just remember- the democrats went there first.
2. Trump will shut down all DOJ investigations against him. These are all bullshit political persecution anyways, he should save our tax dollars from being wasted. The state convictions will be thrown out in appeals.
3. End of the Ukraine Russian War. Thank God. Are you in favor of two autocracies waging total war, especially when one is the world's largest nuclear arsenal with a madman at the helm?
4. Escalation of the Israeli Hamas conflict. Good. Trump defeated ISIS, he can help Israel defeat Hamas and Hezbollah. If that means no Palestinian state, then the PA should have done more to stop Hamas before they were overtaken.
5. Higher prices on goods due to Tariffs. YES! We need to decouple from China and restore American manufacturing from all outsourcing. Let foreign nations export their cheap shit to us for Dollar Stores and online shopping, while well-made American stuff is made by Americans making good wages with good benefits for sale online and on Main Street.
6. Trump has disavowed Project 2025 several, several times. Pull your head out of your ass. There is no Plan 47. Do you mean Agenda 47? Separate and distinct from any Heritage Foundation influence. read it here: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47
I am happy to dispel the lies and enlighten you with the Truth. You're welcome.

You dumb fuck liberals nominated Hillary in 2016. Probably the only person on the planet that couldn’t defeat Trump.

But you didn’t learn anything. So what do you this year. You usurp the Democratic process, overthrow the President and appoint a DEI with zero qualifications. Once again you ran one of the few people in the country that couldn’t defeat Trump

I’m investing in Kleenex. I expect a tidal wave of liberal tears.

The OP makes up a bunch of falsehoods and then bemoans the election results. Not insightful enough to understand that his progressive attitude, right fucking there, is why Trump won. Project 2025? No one other than whiny progressives cares. They are trying to make ends meet. just what about that do you progressives not fucking understand? Scotus already told the out of control justice department, run by the criminal Merrick Garland, that their cases against Trump were done, but they just won't quit cheating. Want to knowwhy black and Hispanic men went for Trump in greater numbers than ever before? They look at progressives cheating and trying to take him down and they see him as the same as them. Always under attack by those who believe they are better. By the way if you look at true deomcracy in this country and the nomination process; Harris should have been a candidate in Iran, not here, the way it was done.

@OP - tissue?

Not much of anything to change, for now.

Motörhead is right.

We run candidates that can’t beat felon pussy grabber inject bleach Donald trump. 8 years ago bc the Clintons get what they want and insisted on running an unelectable Hillary , and this year bc “Joe Biden is stubborn” and gave unelectable Kamala 90 days to run for president. Next time we should should run a retarded Native American trans teenager, won’t that feel good for the progressives!

The dem party is more interested in its internal bureaucracy than in the country and puts themselves in impossible to win races. At the same time they’re at best a least-worst party. The gop is a pile of shit, but all the dems can come up with is “we’re not them”. So they lose because they deserve to lose.

They’ve had four years and people everywhere can say “I’m worse off than I was four years ago”. Yet, the dems one big move is jacking another squirt of lip service down the bottomless pit of progressive self righteousness. Achieving nothing for no one. But the nyu liberal arts crowd feel smug about it.

So fuck the Democratic Party, they don’t deserve a win, they deserve to be shattered into new parties that can actually run a campaign.

Things like raising tariffs and their impact on the economy will require a complicit congress, so its hard to speculate if they will come to pass.

I think it is pretty clear that we can expect further gutting/laxer enforcement at safety regulation oriented agencies like the OSHA, FDA, EPA, etc.

We can also expect ICE to be more aggressive, To the extent that he has a mandate, it is reducing illegal immigration, so we can expect additional funding for southern border security. I don't see dems blocking that given that they had reached a deal last year.

We can expect more Strip clubs to get caught up in immigration issues similar to Electric Blue.

We can expect Elon Musk to get whatever he wants in the short term, before some minor slight causes Trump to view him as disloyal.

^spot on

What melodramatic nonsense, lol.

For starters, all of the cases are done. Finished. Trump will shut down the federal cases and, under the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, no state case will be allowed to impede his Constitutional duties as sitting President. All of which makes sense. Imagine the chaos if a state or local government or court could impose its will on a sitting President. No President would ever be safe from lawfare waged by local jurisdictions that oppose his policies.

As far as his supposed retaliations, let's calm down now. For all his bluster during his last term, he was actually very restrained in terms of real action against enemies, far more so than the Biden Administration has been I might add. Frankly I am looking forward to 4 years where out alphabet soup of regulatory agencies are no longer being used as hammers to punish disfavored parties or adopt sweeping policies that they never had a Congressional mandate to implement.

So our choice was the loud guy who makes much noise but causes little real harm or the gal who walks softly but no doubt has a club concealed behind her back. IMO we made the right choice.

It's really just horrible policy. I mean basically what this administration was try demographically change Texas with illegal immigration to make the state blue. Fully intentional. The border wasn't a failure to them it was mission success. Patriots and real heros like Governor Abbot defended America (think of Gandolf during the siege of Gondor) and shipped them right into the ivory tower liberals inner sanctums. But we still had hardcore gangbangers, cartel members, islamic terrorists, CCP agents, child traffickers pouring into our country and not to mention record amounts of fentanyl which kills tens of thousands of Americans every year. I mean not only is it dangerous but we all pick up the tab to house, cloth and feed all these folks, around 15 million. In what world does the taxpayer have the money to do that?

Really I just challenge anybody name me ONE thing Trump did that was worse than leaving the southern border wide open. Just one thing. You really can't do it. When I was in the voting booth, I closed my eyes and thought about the last 30 minutes of Jocelyn Nungaray's life, our government intentionally did that to us for a political power play. Couldn't go R down the line fast enough. At the end of the day they deserved to get blown the fuck out, nothing less. And of course Soros is likely behind much of it, it's time we prosecute this man, he does not deserve freedom.

@drew - we're on opposite sides but I largely agree. Dems are going to have to become the party of Bill Clinton, to be America First (even if that would look different than the Trump version), and not to hold the common American in contempt, in order to win again.

The answer is no one really knows how it's going to go, including the person who won the presidential election and is on the way back into a job they already had.

On a slightly different note, I appreciated that the board kept things a little classier outside of the political threads this election cycle. Classier for TUSCL at least lol. I've got strippers to deal with later so I'm going to get back to pretending to be a responsible adult. Have fun.

Donald Trump is a 70s or 80s moderate Democrat. If he changed none of his positions/policies and went back in time, he would easily be welcomed into the Democrat party of that era. There's nothing extreme about the guy.

The Democrat party, and left in general, have become so fanatical, they can't even recognize or acknowledge that fact.

@ Gammanu95, skibum

I am just worried about Project 2025. I don't really want to express how I feel about on here because I want to follow the guidelines of this website and be appropriate. Let me just say that I don't want the entire nation to fall into the hellscape that Louisiana is in. Do you want 10 commandments placed in you school systems? Do you want force religion on everyone even if they don't want that?

I don't honestly care about any of the changes Trump makes. I am scared of Project 2025. It's not Republican governance I fear, it is the religious tyranny that comes with it.

@ Puddytat,

No thanks. I am working my job right now. Despite everything happening I'm going to move on with my life.

What I don't like is being controlled by Evangelicals.

Rember that the "conservatives" on hear are mostly geriatric white men with tin foil hats who profess conservative values while being whoremongers. Take them with a grain of salt

"What I don't like is being controlled by Evangelicals."

Won't happen. Project 2025 is a Democratic scare tactic, not a Trump administration plan.

More melodrama, lol. Were we "controlled by Evangelicals" during Trump's first term? Frankly I don't think he gives a shit about most social policies, including the fluffernutter in that Project 25 document that he neither drafted nor endorsed.

@Owlyoung_ggofv

Evangelicals don't control the news media, Hollywood, the music industry, the arts, sports, the school systems, etc. Leftists control all of those things with overwhelming majorities. Do you have an irrational fear of spiders, too?

Vance is an evangelical weirdo

^America spoke fuck head; you lost.

do any of you guys worry that they might start coming down on mongering?

As soon as they declare Trump the winner in Nevada and Arizona (I’m not sure why it hasn’t been called - he has big leads with the majority of the votes counted) then Trump will have won every “swing state”

The pollsters just can’t seem to get it right. And he crushed in Florida. Why was it even considered to be a swing state

"do any of you guys worry that they might start coming down on mongering?"

Did that happen in his first term? Not worried at all.

^^
I don’t know why people are expecting this. But I was watching some CNN this morning and they were spreading all kinds of fear mongering nonsense. Not about strip clubs per se, but really some irrational talk.

GroovyMan. Regulation of strip clubs happens on the state and local levels, not the federal. That's why strip clubs in some areas are good, and in other areas they suck.

My 90-year-old Mom, sweet little old lady, union teacher, parent of four, God mother of five more said to me today: "My only regret is that the assassin failed." My response: "That in a nutshell is why Americans told Progressives to go screw themselves this election, yet none of you get it...still".
Ban strip clubs. I certainly don't care. Successful people adapt. Bleu Vermont is great for strip clubs, well they would be if they had any. Blue Washington D.C. is great for strip clubs, if you're a gay guy appalled by touching women. Worrying about strip clubs, which are a local issue under the Constitution after a Presidential makes me fear for America.

Do evangelicals really want to ban strip clubs? There’s a Chattanooga, Tennessee lawyer Scott Berghthold who has made a niche practice of writing city ordinances to try and ban strip clubs. Several years he attempted to do so in some Michigan town.

Other than him, I don’t necessarily see it. Personally I think he found a unique way to make money. I find just as many or more progressive women’s rights activists who oppose porn and strip clubs.

Bergthold argues that strip clubs promote crime. So what? Check the crime stats of any 24 hour 7-11 or White Castle in the hood. I bet any business operating during the wee hours have their share of drug dealers, pimps and hookers .

What to expect? Nothing good.🫤

Evangelicals don't care about strip clubs. They happily back the sleaziest president since bill clinton. They're worried about money and abortion. With trump they get their way on both bc he at least knows how to appeal to people he doesn't give a shit about, unlike the dems.

What to expect?

Lower taxes.
Lower inflation.
Lower cost of living.
Better economy.
More jobs.
More wage growth.
Less free speech repression.
Smaller, more accountable government.
Fewer illegal immigrants and related crime/welfare costs.
Fewer drugs and cartels crossing the border.
No Supreme Court packing.
More states' rights.
More liberal rioting.
More media lies.
More partisan witchhunts from the democrats.
More liberal fearmongering.
Less activity from Iran/China/Russia/Taliban/AQ/ISIS/Hamas/Hezbollah/Houthis.
Better protection of individual rights.

@gamma - Hear hear! Can't wait to see what a generational talent like Elon Musk can do to right-size government.

I'm loving watching the liberal finger pointing. Mostly acting like women and BIPOC are the wholly-owned property of the Democratic party. Anything except acknowledging they ran a pigshit candidate and a pigshit campaign.

20-25 years from now, when this wave of immigrants go to retire, do you really believe they will be denied FULL social security benefits?

No politician will deny the immigrants getting full benefits.

The Dems are the party that plan on bankrupting America's retirement program.

I have read a lot of your comments and I am going to make one more political discussion thread (it will be the last one for awhile) discussing what I have reflected.

@ Puddytat, you are forever the conservative on here aren't you? That's perfectly fine. Evangelicals are a difficult group to pin down regarding political power. They can cause a lot of problems, but typically they only do that I areas where they are already entrenched. These are usually places that most people will not find any entertainment (flyover America, etc). I'm referring to groups like Moms for Liberty or just any White Evangelical group who want to have control over people's personal lives. I agree that Strip Clubs are probably low on list, ironically because the super religious places don't have them and states are stingy enough with adult entertainment licenses that it's always relegated to places outside the public square.

Conservatives have bigger fish to fry than what LITERAL PATHETIC LOSERS do in their free time.

@ LexLuthor, I agree. I just know we can't take anything for granted. Trump honestly does not care at all about this, it's some of his advisors that concern me.

@skibum609, I don't think you should take your anger out on strip clubs. Personally, for all of my rants about Evangelical wing of the GOP, I don't mind if we have a Christian Fundamentalist President. My hope is that said President will respect the Constitution enough to let his party know: we can make some key changes, but nothing outright destroying the First Amendment.

The irony is that attacking strip clubs is anti capitalism by its very nature. You are taking away jobs for no other reason than "much religion" and you are using law enforcement in a manner that doesn't actually solve an my crimes (murder, theft, etc).

I understand that you're upset, but no political party should take away hobbies from people because of political football. I'm scared for strip clubs because they are low hanging fruitb for politicians.

@Owl - This discussion has come up elsewhere but it's hard to correlate a state's political leanings with the quality of strip clubs.
Red Texas and Florida vs. Red Utah and Ohio
Blue Massachusetts vs. Blue Rhode Island

It's more local and cultural than about whoever is president.

@gammanu95

No Supreme Court packing.
More states' rights.

The supreme Court will get packed by more Trump Yes men. The one big flaw the founders made was creating life time positions for judges. It has a poor effect with a body of Congress and Presidents that are ever changing. I understand the premise was that the Constitution can't be reinterpreted to a particular person. However, technically all someone has to do (like Trump) is select Yes men to the bench. Those people will allow anything (they already have) and when his terms ends, the population is stuck with them. So what's stopping Trump from picking a successor to continue the deal with the Court, nothing.

Technically, a candidate could be voted out, but Justices will never change so it doesn't matter. A better solution would have been to give Justices a fixed time limit than is above average. 20 years seeing as a justice would be my pick if could be changed. Long enough to dodge political influences but short enough to where political parties can't rely on them forever.

States rights has always been a mixed bag, when state law conflicts with federal mandates it typically ends with the states caving. See modern day gun laws as an example. Usually it's because the Feds will cut funding and the State has to comply. Texas is one of the few exceptions.

"The supreme Court will get packed by more Trump Yes men."

Disingenuous. Court packing is a specific term to mean adding more justices to alter the ideological balance of the court. Don't like lifetime tenure? Pass an amendment.

If a Democratic administration added 4 justices to make a 7-6 liberal majority, a Republican administration could add 8 justices to restore the ideological balance at 14-7.

Dems DGAF about "reforming" the Supreme Court when the Warren Court was ruling their way. Why is it different now, other than that they're not getting their way?

Motörhead and Drewcareypnw are 100% spot on . The Democrats in 2016 and yesterday quite possibly ran the ONLY two candidates who might not defeat Trump. How stupid can they be?

Let's face it, about 40% of the country is going to vote Democratic no matter what, and an equal amount will do the same for the Republican side . That leaves 20% in the middle who will always decide the election . I am part of that Independent middle group and did not vote for either candidate this year because I thought both were bad for the country. However many in the middle had to choose between Hillary/Kamalla and Trump. For more than half, Trump was the lesser of two evils and that pushed him to a very improbable victory both times. Joe Biden ( at least 4 years ago ) was slightly more acceptable to the Independent voter and he eeked out a narrow win over Trump.
Like Trump or hate him, Trump has so many negatives (mostly his arrogance) that any centrist Democrat ( like a Bill Clinton) would have crushed Trump by attracting a huge portion of the Independent voters. When the Democrats saw the Biden ship sink after the debate, the party elite quickly rammed Kamala down everyone's throat. Fearing they might lose the Black vote (which they would not) they went with Harris without even considering a moderate and easily electable candidate. The Democratic party's stupidity is beyond my comprehension. Since they didn't learn from their mistake in 2016, I doubt that they will learn from yesterday either. I fully suspect that they will roll out Kamalla again in 2028 and see their party lose to JD or whoever the Republicans throw out. They certainly deserve the result that should be obvious to most people.

@ Puddy Tat, Fair enough. I will be brutally honest in that I think the Supreme Court needs to have an amendment to change it both ideological and term limits. Personally I think we need to term limit all political positions after a certain number of wins (ie 3 terms for Congressman maximum, etc). That's a story for another time. Lifetime appointments have one other more psychological complication, people change (as cheesy as that sounds, it's true). Herbert may be hardcore conservative at 40, but 30 years later he may have interpersonal conflicts with judgements. It's not ethical, but it's human. Its probably happened multiple times in 250 years and nobody says anything.

Supreme Court should stay at 9 justices. The catch is that 4 of the justices have to be of a different party than the President. That way you always have opposing representation in the courts while also preserving the power of the Presidency.

It's wishful thinking, but I think that way you could keep the Supreme Court in soft balance between political opposites.

I will leave you with this Puddy, I'm actually not a bad guy. If you ever find yourself and North Alabama and what to hit the clubs, maybe we could talk sometime over drinks. I just want to live my life freely, why can't you respect that.

@Owl - Never said you were a bad guy or I didn't want you to freely live your life. Only that your concerns about such things are overblown.

I trust the system the Founding Fathers created, including our ability to self-renew and adapt. Right now, the only legal course of action is to adhere to the procedural guardrails in place and respect the separation of powers. Trump will do that, as he did in his first term.

"The history of liberty has largely been the history of the observance of procedural safeguards." - Justice Felix Frankfurter

Likewise, drop me a PM if you're up in New England.

Someone on Reddit posted the question “how did a record number of Millennials and Gen-Z’s voters turnout and Trump gained votes from 2020”

For those old enough to be around in the 60’s Nixon popularized the term “the Silent Majority” referring to the vast majority of Americans who did join the counter-culture and participate in war protests.

I think there’s a parallel situation here. College students saw a small handful of their classmates participate in pro-Palestine rallies. They saw blue haired protesters wear lesbians for Hamas t-shirts. They saw female student athletes at their schools run and swim against dudes with dicks.

The Silent Majority spoke

More pigs in the White House.

Bippitty, boppitty, bacon!!

Kamala was in the hospital on Election Day.

Evangelicals care a lot more about abortion than they do about strip clubs. If they couldn't pressure Trump into endorsing a federal ban on abortion, it seems unlikely they will be able to pressure him into endorsing federal action against strip clubs.

There are going to be more than 50 Republican Senators, but not 50 MAGA Senators. That's key to what happens next. Whether and how much Trump is willing to bargain with non-MAGA Republican Senators. One of them, Susan Collins, has already said she was burned by assurances from Trump's SCOTUS nominees about Roe. Trump could play hardball, and try to run the government and military with ongoing acting appointees. That would lead to a SCOTUS case over whether Trump was bypassing the Constitutional requirements for advice and consent of the Senate. Given their Presidential immunity decision, SCOTUS might well say those requirements can only be enforced through the Impeachment process. There are enough hard MAGA Senators to block Trump's removal through Impeachment, so then we'd be through the looking glass.

The Presidency is primarily a trophy to Trump. He's got his trophy, and he's made the Federal prosecutions go away. Hard to be sure what, if anything, he wants beyond that.

expect the same as his last run. if you not rich, you will not benefit. you think you will but you overall will not. hope he doesn't let ANOTHER pandemic iin the country

Estafador, everyone benefitted the last time. Real wages were rising and inflation was low. In fact, his economy was so strong pre-pandemic that it was the first time since the Great Recession that the Fed was able to get the interest rate off of the floor.

And accusing him of being responsible for the pandemic is moronic.

@Ilb: Not only non-MAGA Senators, but also Tea Party members of the House that want spending cuts. He is going to have to negotiate on a number of items.

In fact, I think that the House is going to be his tougher adversary. The way it looks now, Republicans are poised to take 53-54 seats in the Senate, so he can afford a defection or two. But assuming a clean sweep, his margin in the House looks like it will be razor thin.

All I can say is...wait and see.

I am curious how the whole “ Except for day one” thing will work out.

^ It's called executive orders. You know, like when Biden opened the border. No need for the fake outrage.

OP: did you get an MSNBC enema? What are you talking about? You were just being silly.

All this depends on Congress too.

He'll:
- get another 4 years of prosperity

- get these wars stopped (economically: shut off Iran's and Russia's money flow for starters)

- resume and expand the Abraham Accords

- use tariffs as a negotiating tool

- lower taxes for ALL

- block the CCP from buying farm land especially near our military bases

- lower corporate taxes for MADE IN AMERICA

- he'll finish the Wall which more than just a "fence".

And I bet he diverts a huge chunk of the solar/wind/charging stations to Pebble SMRs. New, upgraded and expanding data centers demand +800MWs aren't getting that from current utility grids, they'll need their own.

The existing grids, substations and national connectivity needs a serious physical and security upgrade, and I don't mean wind mills killing birds or solar that works in daylight.

And no, there will be no interment camps, elections will go on, and just maybe we'll have Voter ID passed as well as HR 2 Schumer squatted on for almost 2 years as it was real Illegal Alien legislation, not this senate turd bill.

Trump will wholesale deport criminal illegals. It's odd. El Salvador built a 40,000 person maximum security prison for gang bangers, and crime is almost non-existent. Locking criminals up does work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_…

Elon will walk in with the kitchen sink, again, and find ways to reduce spending - this will be the toughest as the Deep State is like a swamp full of mosquitos, pythons and gators. It's the SPENDING, stupid. We spend $1T a year on interest, and a lot of it goes to China as they bought piles of our treasury paper.

If Republicans in Congress from purple states/districts talk him down (as in his first term), the economy will probably be good for four years. The reckoning due to the national debt will probably come sooner, but not within four years. Although, you never know, we probably won't see that coming till it's too late.

@puddy I’m not outraged or being fake. He didn’t say “I will use an executive order in day one”. He was asked “will you be a dictator” and he replied “just on day one”. So I am curious what the orange piece of shit will do on day one. =)

@ Motorhead, I was so focused on everyone else that I forgot about you. Technically, there is no real existential threat to strip clubs. Abortion and LGBTQ rights are a more public attention grabber. I honestly don't believe strip clubs will become the Boogeyman any time soon save for an actual federal effort. That's why I'm fearful about Project 2025. The only anti-strip club movement I've noticed is cities districting them out.

You cannot say "I want to live my life free from government interference" and vote democrat at the same time. These are mutually exclusive. I am not saying that Republican governments do not pass laws which restrict some activities but, currently and historically, in theory and in practice, Democrat Party controlled governments are much more invasive and restrictive than Republican governments. That is a fact, not an opinion. If you disagree with it, then you are wrong on the facts and the truth. Grass is green, water is wet, democrats do more to interfere with your life and restrict rights and freedoms than Republicans.

^ tell that to a woman that needs to get an abortion

Dictator on day one comment was in reference to closing the border.

^^okay. Point her out. Abortion are not banned in most states, and banning abortion is not part of the Republican platform.

^ Dictator on day one refers to Executive Actions necessary to start fixing all of the crises the democrat party started

@25: In the case of abortion, there is a competing interest involving the life of the child. And "need" is a strong term to apply to abortions. While some are truly medically necessary, the bulk of them are convenience killings.

Susie Wiles appointed Trump's Chief of Staff. First woman in American government to ever have that position. Damn, Trump is such a misogynist.

^

And she's a matronly looking 67 yr old so he didn't hire her based on looks or age.

^ Hey man, he hired Sarah Huckabee. Pretty sure that was for brains, not looks. Lol

But then he replaced her with Kayleigh Mcenany. Nice turnaround.