Offered OTC by a dancer
I met a new girl recently. She gave me her number, presumably so we could connect when she is working. Later that night she texted me saying we could meet outside the club as well. I’ve never done OTC so I’m assuming this would involve way more than a lap dance. We agreed on a price and I told her I’d see l, maybe in a few weeks. Ever since then we have texted daily, just general chit chat. I plan on seeing her at the club in the next few days.Am I right in assuming she’s staying in touch because of the possibility she could keep me as a good paying client for OTC?
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Sfrsox - waiting to hear back on a newer and better job I interviewed for
Why are you going to the club to see her when you could see her otc?
Make sure theres no condom for the bj or hj otherwise its not worth it
OTC is not always the best scenario.
Don't be surprised, either, when the "rent's due, I need to do my nails, my car broke down" texts start coming.
Tread cautiously....otherwise, that extra money from your new job will quickly disappear.
The price we agreed on was $500
How much are the dances per song? You can try getting a couple dances, finger and eat her pussy in the dances. Its a good way to judge what OTC will include and also if she has a boyfriend pimp.
Regarding the OTC you can also wait to pay her till the end or halfway through. Or give her $200 upfront and the rest after half an hour. Dont give the entire $500 upfront
It's hard to say if she's selling ITC or OTC specifically. Too many variables we don't know. Some girls prefer one or the other, different areas might make one more profitable than the other, around here we're heavily influenced by tourism seasons, etc.
Personally, I do not recommend being direct/explicit about what will or won't happen. In my experience, doing that emphasizes the transactional nature of the relationship. Simply agreeing to a price OTC leaves the interaction to be a bit more natural. If it's $500 for some kissing, a blowjob, and sex or whatever what tend to happen is you both go into the meetup with a ToDo list and the focus will be on checking the items off the list and moving on. If that's what you want, then by all means go ahead and get explicit.
But by not getting explicit, it leaves things more open. You can maybe have a few drinks, some snacks, they'll likely be some foreplay, maybe shower together before or after, maybe some more drinks and or snacks, maybe a dip in the pool or hot tub, a round two could be on the table. I enjoy the more natural, less forced progression of this approach.
Yes, there is absolutely a greater risk of not getting exactly what you want by not being explicit. For me, its a chance I'm willing to take. Like Ibb mentioned, even if you are explicit there is a decent chance you end up disappointed anyway.
It's also important to remember that my approach drastically increases the likelihood of a romance hustle. When things are mechanical and the exchange is very explicit, its easier to shut that down. When things progress naturally, you're more likely to feel like there is more to the relationship and be more willing to help her out later. And she's more likely to see it that way and try too.
Again, my philosophy runs counter to the prevailing opinion here. The times I've given her that $75 to pay her phone bill and wound up with her back in my bed in return for my kindness are much more frequent than the times I've given her $200 for rent and only heard from her when she wanted more. But you have to be willing to gamble, have the fortitude to fold bad hands, and most importantly be aware that your gambling. You have to recognize the bullshit and know you're giving a stripper money in hopes it'll come back to you, not helping a friend through a tough time. If you choose your strippers carefully, it can pay off. If you choose poorly, it can bankrupt you. Or maybe it's just dumb luck?
It is more risky but it can also have a bigger payoff. Paying small bills here and there can work out much better than paying $300-$400 for every meeting.
But, that's my perspective only...dolfan knows his situation better than me.
What will happen in otc? There’s only one way to find out…
I thought the conversation was kind of bizarre. I don't know what's in it for her dollar wise, nor what to expect. It seems that such an OTC meeting can be some type of scam or perhaps it is legit.
I'm not anxious to find out so i didn't follow up. I think ITC might be the better option.
Could be for her safety. Or could be a way to get you in a bad spot and outnumbered with your dick out lol.
Regarding price, keep in mind that you're also paying for a hotel room unless you're going to hers or your home (which has its own risks...).
So, to the OP, my point in posting was to provide balance to the "ask her specifically what she'll do" type advice. Even with girls I don't know well, I've consistently had better results just playing it by ear. You can iron it all out in advance and raise the floor of what to expect. Or you can roll the dice and raise the ceiling of what could happen.
There's no right answer, you decide what makes sense for you and your situation.
$500 is a little pricey for OTC, so I’d assume everything (or nearly everything) is on the menu. My first couple of OTC experiences I thought I needed 2 or 3 hours. But I eventually realized that I really only need less than 1 hr since once we’re done fucking, it’s time for her to leave, so I can take a shower and a nap.
Well that’s the name of the game. They all do.
Unfortunately the high price of $500 doesnt guarantee that everything will be on the menu or that it will be a good experience. But, I would hope that a dancer or escort who wants repeat business, will perform as best they can with OTC. Its just not always the case though.
She's a service provider, not a potential partner. View it with that mlndset, and you will have a fun ride.
It probably doesn't help if you told her money is tight, though.
Lol Icey, they spent 2.5 hours already. Sounds like a reasonable time if he only paid $500
You insist anyone paying for OTC is a trick that the dancer wouldnt ever like… when its not the case. Its no different than dating a gold digger or even an arranged marriage scenario
Pimps often pay club managers to hire their girls. Everyone gets a cut. What she does has nothing to do with whether or not she's pimped. On the contrary most will do whatever to get that bag
As far as the DATY/fingering, yes, it is a good sign, it means there is no boyfriend pimp in the picture, or if there is, she may be cheating on him. American girls with boyfriend pimps often have rules like no kissing clients, no bare BJs, no cumming with clients, and so they will refuse daty/fingering or in some cases allow them but only briefly like for a minute, and not long enough to actually get off.
If its a latina or foreign girl pimped out by a gang or cartel of some sort- thats a different scenario and those girls may be open to everything.
But as far as an Americanized girl of any race, it’s generally a good sign if they are okay with kissing and allow daty/fingering for more than a minute or two