Harris picks Walz for VP

TheeOSU
FUCK IT!
Just announced, I can only hope that it backfires on her.


https://www.bing.com/search?q=harris+pic…

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Puddy Tat
4 months ago
Probably her best option. He's progressive but old and white.

He doesn't bring a state but Shapiro would have alienated the powerful Jew-Hating wing of the Democratic party. Arizona might be too far out of reach this cycle.
misterorange
4 months ago
This is a de facto concession. They know Kamala can't win, so they're gonna use the next three months to shine a spotlight on their insane vision for the future. That way, whenever they get another chance at real governance, the shock of their radical America-last agenda will have mellowed a bit, as it won't be anything new.
Owlyoung_ggofv
4 months ago
You all are making a grave mistake underestimating the Democrats. The biggest issue most Republicans haven't come to terms with is just how much certain segments of the Democratic voting bloc hate Trump. Its unfortunate, but very rarely are elections decided based on pragmatism. The economy is the only exception, and even that is a coin toss depending on which side benefits from the status quo.
Puddy Tat
4 months ago
I'm not underestimating Democrats. I still think Trump has a better shot, but I don't think Walz will turn out a lot of people who wouldn't already vote Democratic. Recent history shows VPs matter less than one might think. If anything it says Harris wants to be "normal" with an old white guy even if he is pretty left.

If Trump were smarter he'd ignore the race and gender shit and focus on every radical thing Harris has said or done, as well as her nonsense at the border, but Trump has less impulse control than a cat at a sushi bar.
gammanu95
4 months ago
Walz brings nothing, absolutely nothing, to Kamala's ticket. He is the most liberal governor whose cities burned after career felon George Floyd died while resisting arrest. Kamala is the most liberal congressman in history, who started a fund to bail out criminals to continuing looting and burning in Walz's state and elsewhere.

He is demonstrably, dangerously liberal, and will drive away independents and moderates.
shailynn
4 months ago
^ I don’t know where you get your information from buddy, Walz is gonna help Kamala win Minnesota! lol. Such a strategic pick!

Did the republicans strategize and pick Kamala’s running mate and the dems pick for Trump? Sure seems that way. Neither add anything IMHO. If I were to pick for the Dems and I wanted them to win I would pick Mark Kelly.
twentyfive
4 months ago
^ 👍 yep shailynn has it right.
skibum609
4 months ago
It seems both parties had to really dig deep to find two Vice Presidential candidates so insignificant as to not outshine the incompetent at the top of each respective ticket. I look at politics in America and think that if you've saved $10,000.00 or more for retirement, you wasted $10,000.00 or more.
Studme53
4 months ago
I thought Minnesota was solidly blue. I don’t remember hearing about it as a swing state.
RonJax2
4 months ago
I would have preferred Shapiro or Kelly too.

But, I gather that part of the consideration here is the balance of the Senate and ownership of the Governor's mansions. Nominating Kelly or Shapiro would have meant a competitive election to hold the Senate Seat and Governor's mansions, respectively. In contrast, nominating Walz runs a much lower risk of turning over the governorship of Minnesota.
skibum609
4 months ago
^ Yup, all about politics (Kelly is harder on the birder) and bigotry (muslims hate Jews and that outweighs electoral votes) and never about the American people. Two terrible presidential candidates and two dolts as vice presidential candidates.
RonJax2
4 months ago
The point I was making was I think this move was actually about governing than politics. She wants to hold the Senate and keep those Gov mansions when she wins.
Puddy Tat
4 months ago
^ That counts as politics to me, though he doesn't get her any closer to the Oval Office. The more I think about this pick the more I think it blunts her momentum.

It's Dems' own DEI hire... chosen for race and gender but still progressive. Does her no favor with the center. Now they can run clips of Minneapolis burning and tampons in boys bathrooms in addition to Harris' far left positions and California blight.
motorhead
4 months ago
I’m scared. Trump is an old fat idiot but he’s still a better choice than the radical Marxist Harris. The Democrat base seems to be rallying around her. And I’m afraid this honeymoon phase could linger.

And it’s not hyperbole. Her father was a Marxist economist at Stanford who argued for the redistribution of wealth.

I’m only in favor of the redistribution of wealth if I’ve giving it to a 20-something blonde dancer - not a program mandated by the government
Puddy Tat
4 months ago
^ I think all honeymoons end. It's been what, 3 weeks since Trump was considered a mythical figure for avoiding the bullet? A lot is going to change before November, we just don't know what.
rickmacrodong
4 months ago
Motorhead using taxes to fund public goods is still to some extent socialistic.
Now, the right wing is still socialistic if you consider how they want to give away american dollars to foreign countries like israel and many others.

As far as the “powerful Jew hating wing of the democratic party” the right has that as well. The Jew haters are a fringe element in both parties.
RonJax2
4 months ago
> I’m scared.

Why did you guys decide to run the senile, anti-democracy, convicted felon, rapist in the first place? There were so many other qualified candidates, some I might have even voted for. As it stands, the democrats just need to fire up their base and then let Trump keep doing stupid shit - like attacking Republican GA Gov. Kemp - and the election will be over.
Hank Moody
4 months ago
“Trump is an old fat idiot but he’s still a better choice than the radical Marxist Harris. … And it’s not hyperbole. Her father was a Marxist economist at Stanford who argued for the redistribution of wealth.”

That’s horseshit and you know it. Just because someone’s father was one way doesn’t mean their offspring can’t be much better than them. After all, look at Fred Trump, he was a crooked real estate guy who discriminated against minorities. That doesn’t mean that … Nevermind.
Muddy
4 months ago
Yeah Trump isn't my first pick on the GOP side (I mean how much better would you feel with Ron DeSantis right now) but at the end of the day I just don't know if this country can survive another 4 years of an open border and 15 million more illegals. Newsflash it ain't doctors and lawyers coming in. Mostly from countries that hate us. CCP agents, Central American gangmembers, military age radical muslim men on a jihad, it's not a fit. At all. Now we have to unfuck all that. And that was done on purpose. For votes. American taxpayer has to pay for all of it. What an incredible act of treason. Yeah I'm just not voting for any of that bullshit.
rawhide2
4 months ago
@HankMoody - there is an old expression...'the apple never falls far from the tree'.

In the vast majority of cases it is true. In her example, her record has proven where she stands on many issues. You can try to whitewash her record, but any intelligent human can she what she wants in her presidency.

I have faith the American voters have free will and can think for themselves.

Not a Trump fan, but not a fan of these 2 idiots either.
Muddy
4 months ago
I'm really worried about the future of women in this country. Many of us have women in our family, grandmothers, mothers, sisters, daughters. We care about them. But folks we are letting in from countries where violence against women is just par for the course. You'll see in the third world women walk down the street in these big groups, there's a reason for that. It's fucking dangerous. If men want to rape and kill they just do so because they feel like it and women are just property. There's no law and order like here.

I really think the days of women just walking alone outside are coming to an end. These cultures coming in are just not like us. Look at the UK. How many little girls have to get gang raped by pakistani men again and again and again, stabbed to death at a Taylor Swift get together or at any random playground, blown up at an Ariana Grande concert. It sure ain't english guys doing that. And that bs is coming here. How about we have a spine, actually be men and just say no, we don't want that here. We are closing this border because it is downright unsafe. At the end of the day, they are gonna call you racist no matter wtf you do, so you might as well have some balls.
motorhead
4 months ago
“Why did you guys decide to run the senile, anti-democracy, convicted felon, rapist in the first place“



Don’t blame me. I’ve never voted for Trump and the speakers at the convention put better choices on display.

Vivek, Kristy Noem, DeSantis, heck even Haley.
rickmacrodong
4 months ago
^those 4 are drastically inferior to trump. Theyre also more corrupt, dumber, greedier, more racist, etc. DeSantis is a nutcase- the dude bragged about being the “most pro israel governor in history” laughable. Haley wanted israel to nuke the middle east…
Theyre poorer than trump, and so they’re much more susceptible to donors. They would basically be big warmongers if elected.
Theyre subhuman. Trump fucked them good to the point they cant even compete with him
gammanu95
4 months ago
Trump won the candidacy because he had excellent results for America and the free world during his first term. It is that simple. Record low migration, record low unemployment, record low incidence of global and regional violence, ISIS destroyed, jobs returning, renegotiating shitty treaties so they actually benefited Americans. He wasn't perfect. His NoKo engagement didn't work out. He gave in on Ryan's omnibus deal. Still the sum total of his successes and benefits to the nation blots out whatever scant few things Joe has done right. Meanwhile, the sum total of shit Joe ruined and fucked up outshines even what Trump had done right. Joe ruined it all, and Kamala helped through a mixture of incompetent participation and stubborn inaction (ie the border crisis).

That's we are running a septuagenarian, MAGA, wrongly convicted, innocent man in the first place.
Nobodygtyu
4 months ago
Muddy is a feminist all of a sudden lmaoo. You're actually out of your mind lol. Stick to strip club road trips my guy.
TheeOSU
4 months ago
Regarding Harris' honeymoon, yeah honeymoons end but she's getting multiple bumps that are adding energy to her campaign and an extended honeymoon.

After almost 4 years of sleepy joe, watching him crumble and stumble the dems seem really excited to see him step down and are swallowing what the MSM is feeding them, glossing over harris' dubious accomplishments and abilities.

No matter the record of walz, picking him gave a positive jolt to her campaign which is already riding high. I recall 2016 and 2020 when clinton and biden were running, their campaign events were barren and quiet, not many people attending. I caught a little of the philly debut today and there were thousands of excited people cheering for them. It's early but not a good sign IMO.

The dem convention is yet to come and they'll get another bump from that which extends the honeymoon. How long will it last remains to be seen but the msm is working overtime to throw a positive spin on everything about the dem ticket.

There's a comment above about Americans thinking for themselves, I can't give many of them that much credit. Personally I'm concerned regarding the abrupt change of direction the process has taken since harris was anointed.

I hope she fails but i'm far from convinced that she will.
rickmacrodong
4 months ago
Trump won in large part because of his outsider status of not being a politician. People saw him as more neutral, less corrupt
motorhead
4 months ago
The media kept suggesting Shapiro was the favorite, but listening to some of his speech I got the strong impression he did not want the job. I think he wanted to distance himself as far as possible from this train wreck.
TheeOSU
4 months ago
Biased news?
Not in Cleveland...

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/08/h…

Link just reenforces my previous comment.
If the backgrounds were reversed they'd be praising the educated guy and calling the other a hick!
JimGassagain
4 months ago
Whoever can eat more midwestern beef, pork, and chicken gets my vote.

Bacon!!
misterorange
4 months ago
Is it too late for Kamala to change her VP pick? Because this Walz guy is a real piece a shit. Putting tampon dispensers in 4th grade boy's bathrooms is fuckin weird as it gets. But lying about your military rank and saying you "carried weapons in war" when the closest he ever got to combat was training in Italy, that's fucking despicable.
Puddy Tat
4 months ago
@motorhead - They also said Shapiro was too proud to accept being second fiddle. And some skeletons in his closet related to a sexual harassment case (though that sounds pretty light compared to what every major candidate in recent memory has been into).

I'm sure that Shapiro being Jewish was quite a handicap with LGBTQ+_*/^s for Palestine, and Michigan.

The left is cumming in its collective boxers over Walz, but they're the same buffoons who talked about wanting to run AOC the first election she's eligible for. Walz might make them feel good, but he won't bring a state, a constituency, or the center.

She's trying to disavow some of her left-of-left positions--defund the police, ban fracking, abolish private health insurance, wonder if she's said anything about her past support for racial reparations--but so did Biden before he went hard left. Only a fool or a liar believes her "conversion" (just in time for an election) is real.

On top of that, Walz adds a more extreme trans (i.e. medical child abuse) agenda than anyone and ownership of the riotous 2020 anarchy. Child abuse is between the child and the doctor? If you believe that, eat my asshole.
jaybud999
4 months ago
@misterorange

Regarding the military part of your comment: seriously? I'm gonna just start with "bone spurs".....but we can keep going if you want. And no, I'm not suggesting Governor Walz should have worded himself that way.....it wasn't accurate.

skibum609
4 months ago
Walz also waited far too long while Minneapolis burned. He then sent 100 Guardsmen into a mob attacked city, leaving citizens to defend themselves. In 2020 the murder rate skyrocketed, went up again the next year and remains 50% above 2019. His wife in an interview said she left the windows open to smell the burning tires in the city in that important moment and shared confidential information with his 19-year-old daughter who tweeted out not to expect a police response that night. Typical progressive assclown masquerading as a decent guy. Amazing the democrats found a bigger douchebag than J.D. Vance.
motorhead
4 months ago
In 1995 Walz was stopped by police driving a Miata 96 MPH in a 55 zone and arrested for a DUI.

A Miata? Seriously dude?
TheeOSU
4 months ago
HUH? What else would you expect a soldier that carried weapons in war to carry?
A humvee, abrams, jeep, or duece and a half?
TheeOSU
4 months ago
'to drive'

edit button please!
twentyfive
4 months ago
Nobody here knew a thing about this guy and now every single one of you have an opinion on him
Me I’ll reserve judgement until I know more and get information from sources I know I can believe
motorhead
4 months ago
^^
That’s true. If you asked me last week who the governor of Minnesota was I would not have been able to tell.

But I searched and found the actual video of his wife saying she loved the smell of the city burning. She’s a weirdo.

And also found his mugshot and story of the DUI.

I don’t know anything about his military record.

But this is interesting and a scary pairing.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/mgHyNm7…
gammanu95
4 months ago
Many people, especially around the Great Lakes, know Walz and his bizarre progressive policies. Left, right, and center website have been sharing information about his guy since before his selection There is plenty to know about him if you care to look. Some posters on here are notorious for failing to educate themselves and posting ignorantly, e.g. Ulan Batar, quote origination, post-Soviet non-aggression pacts, etc.. It seems that Kamala's team failed to their research as well. They picked a real turd. This is great news for Trump/Vance.
skibum609
4 months ago
None of us knows anything about this guy? Stupid comment. If you watched the George Floyd riots, burning and looting by democrats and the abject failure of democratic party governing you know all about this fucking fraud.
twentyfive
4 months ago
^ Certified Weirdo
twentyfive
4 months ago
Was referring to gay man
twentyfive
4 months ago
^ Do you know Trump praised his handling of the Floyd riots
gammanu95
4 months ago
25iq needs a citation needed. More made up idiocy? Just parroting what you heard from Don Lemon, again?
skibum609
4 months ago
I am aware that Trump praised him and criticized him. People like Walz who lie about their military service should never hold office. He claimed he was for banning certain weapons because: "we can make those weapons of war, similar to what I carried in war.....", except according to even CNN he was never in war and never carried a gun in a war. Stolen Valor Walz is a piece of shit not worthy of being in government. Nope Trump shithead didn't serve, nor did he fucking lie about while fucking with the second amendment.
rickmacrodong
4 months ago
Trump should have done candace owens, one of the hodgetwins or officer tatum as his VP.

Shapiro is a nutjob. Its sad all these right wingers wanted him in so he could funnel more money to israel lol. Hes not fit for his current job, let alone VP.
gammanu95
4 months ago
Don't feed the anti-Semite troll.^
Book Guy
4 months ago
How was there a lie about military service? I don't get it. I'm not a Fox viewer so I don't see stories that are based on internet fabrications. As I understand it, he said he was in the National Guard and he was in the National Guard and he stayed in it for over 20 years. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what "is" is.
Puddy Tat
4 months ago
^ He lied (and the Washington Post stealth-edited) that Walz wasn't in combat. "Ban a weapon like he carried in war," he didn't sniff combat. Actual servicemen call this Stolen Valor.
twentyfive
4 months ago
So Trump who called soldiers suckers, the guy who was a fuckn draft dodger, with daddy’s money got a bunch of deferments while other guys at least had the decency to do what Muhammad Ali did, and faced the music, yet he’s someone whom you have no problem with becoming president, please ski, spare me the bullshit, I could give you chapter and verse why I don’t like or respect that scumbag, but I don’t really give a fuck, I’m voting for Harris, hoping that Trump is gone by 2028, because I don’t expect much from her, but I expect less from him, plus he never shuts the fuck up. I’m more than sick and tired of his lies and I don’t agree that he accomplished a thing other than cause chaos and destruction for the short term he was in office.
gammanu95
4 months ago
25 IQ is a useful idiot who is only too happy to repeat any lie that hits his liberal ears.

It has already been proven and testified to by all present, that Trump never called soldiers suckers or losers or complained about visiting WW1 and WW2 memorials. Didn't happen. Biden lies and you repeat it. Demented birds of a feather. You sound like you're jealous that he was smarter than you and didn't get called up for enlistment.

Then you admit that he accomplished much in office but you will refuse to acknowledge it. You admit that you will deny truth and facts, but we already know you and see you do this all the time. Settle down and have a sippy cup. You're going to stroke out and break my fucking heart.
Book Guy
4 months ago
Geez 20 years in the National Guard ... more than you did.

Newsweek fact-checks both sides
https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-attack…

This is the new Swiftboating. Walz's record is fine. He didn't "abandon" (in fact, he re-upped after 9/11, then left directly to run for office as an immediate consequence of wanting to speak out more about military decisions in the lead-up to his leaving) and he didn't "lie". It's pretty clear to me that Vance is looking to besmirch just because Vance knows that reality is not particularly important to people who would vote for Vance.

I'm proud to not be a sucker for this sort of fraud. Just look it up at verifiable news sources. Washington Post initially FELL FOR the fraud, then re-edited and posts up front on the story's web page that it has been edited. They "edited" meaning, CORRECTED in order to state fact rather than Vance's lies. They didn't "stealth" anything.

Maybe Walz was eating babies underneath a pizza parlor too.
gammanu95
4 months ago
Walz's lies go farther than lying that he carried a rifle in combat. He boasts that he is a retired Command Master Sgt. He is not, he retired early, failed to fulfill the requirements for that rank, and was busted down to Master Sgt, retired. That is stolen valor. He is unfit to be VP or anywhere in the line of presidential succession.
skibum609
4 months ago
BOOK - Was your post seriously that dense? I didn't get my fucking news on stolen valor Walz from Fox, I got it from left wing lick Joe Biden's ass CNN. This guy claimed to have carried a weapon in combat: A lie. Never even close to a war. This guy claimed on his governor's website to have retired as a command sergeant major: A lie. While he was promoted to command sergeant major, he was required to serve two years in that position, and when his unit found out they were deploying to Iraq he retired rather than leading his men. He retired as a sergeant major and a liar. He was, is and always will be a liar, basing his career on stolen valor. Just read the same thing on WAPO, so dude wtf are you talking about.

I am voting for trump and hoping that if Harris wins she and Walz are in a plane crash and the Republican Speaker of the House becomes President. The idea that things were worse under trump than under Biden is such bullshit. Why lie when everyone knows the truth? Not everyone is as gullible as a democrat. Claiming I have no problem with Trump as president after all my posts is just insane gibberish from someone as competent as Biden. I hate trump, but since I don't vote for nazis, commies, the klan or democrats, all for the same reasons, he is my only choice, unless voting day is wicked sunny and I play golf and go to desires and don't vote. As I tell my Jewish friends irl, anyone Jewish who votes for Harris/Walz is doing the same thing as the kapos of ww2.
Book Guy
4 months ago
I wasn't responding to anyone in specific. (Except Vance, I guess.) I took my info from three different internet sources that are "standard" news outlets, neither CNN nor Fox. I linked one of them. I didn't state accusations about the people in this discussion, I stated conclusions about the issues at hand, as based on the best facts I could ascertain. Others addressed the people not the facts, and ended up thereby being rather unconvincing to me.

New Swiftboating.

Puddy Tat
4 months ago
"he didn't "lie""
A weapon he carried in a war. Number one, he didn't carry a weapon in war. Number two, THE MILITARY DOESN'T ISSUE AR-15s!

"They didn't "stealth" anything."
Oops, my bad, that was Bloomberg, not WaPo.
Still a liberal media stealth edit to protect a Democrat.

But it's OK, because Trump exists and it's OK to sacrifice truth in pursuit of him, right?

skibum609
4 months ago
Only a true progressive douche bag would bring up swiftboating which i not a term anyone other than progressives use. John Kerry was a fraud. Piece of shit who got a medal for shooting an unarmed kid in the back. A guy who when he was safe at home became an anti-war protestor who threw his medals over the White House fence in disdain...oops, he still has his he threw someone else's over. What does the anti-war piece of shit do next? Appear in Lowell, Mass to claim his $100 bonus as a Viet Nam vet. Kerry piece of shit fraud. Walz piece of shit fraud. Both are perfect progressives.
JimGassagain
4 months ago
Appears too many on here have too much time on their hands wasting away their day commenting on something they know little about.

Dump Trump.

Bacon!!
skibum609
4 months ago
^Perfect example.
Hank Moody
4 months ago
Walz lied both about carrying a weapon “in war” and the rank he had when he left the guard. Did he serve for 20 years? Yes. Should he be thanked? Yes. Was his “in war” a mistake or a lie? I don’t know, but he should correct it now. Should he have embellished his rank? No and he should correct it now.

He’s risking letting this become a bigger story than it already is by trying to defend what is factually untrue. It’s like Trump trying to force Kamala to defend that she’s Black. Her dad was Jamaican her mom was Indian. End of story. Walz served 20 years and retired with the rank he earned. End of story.

None of this changes a vote for 99.9% of voters.
rickmacrodong
4 months ago
Skibum what you and so many on the right fail to understand is that the support israel gets from the right isnt a genuine support but rather rooted in religious belief. Its a bit sad when you get atheists who happen to become right wing, start supporting israel without understanding why the right supports it so much. The reason it’s supported so much is based around prophecies which involve Jesus coming back after certain events occur in israel. The right supports israel for now, but will eventually turn against it.
Mate27
4 months ago
SkiDumb doesn’t want to be right. He just wants to be angry! Rage typing w/one hand and jacking it w/the other. All day, every day.
skibum609
4 months ago
^Has the creativity of a retarded 2 year old child. Stop projecting your infantile rage little girl and next time keep your tongue in your mouth when you kiss your Mom ya fuckin tahd.
Walz served 20 years, retired with the rank he earned and since then has lied about his rank every day. Typical of democratic party supporters, they support him because he lied. His service and the fact he ran out on his troops when it was time to really serve means he gets no fucking thanks. Stolen Valor Walz id the perfect fir for the party of muslims and trannies.
Hank Moody
3 months ago
The campaign changed their materials today to say Walz “served as a command sergeant major.” The statement now matches what a US Army public affairs officer stated to the Minn Star Tribune back in 2022 “Walz obtained the rank of command sergeant major and served in that role but retired as a master sergeant in 2005 for benefit purposes due to not completing additional coursework.”

Stupid mistake by the dems to allow this to slip through when most people wouldn’t know the difference between the ranks. Apparently it’s been an issue for him in previous campaigns.
Puddy Tat
3 months ago
^ It's a "mistake" when Democrats do it. It's a "LIE!!!!!" when Republicans do.

But it's a small one next to ban the AR-15 I carried in war, which is two lies being used to take away a right explicitly defined in the US Constitution.
misterorange
3 months ago
Well, you might say Walz was a hero for bailing out before his unit was deployed. Who knows how many more men would have died with that piece of garbage leading them.
skibum609
3 months ago
^^ as of 15 minutes ago his lie was still on his governor's page. Great vetting by the democrats, assuming they were looking for the only VP pick worse than JD Vance.
TheeOSU
3 months ago
Crazy thing is the Harris campaign people released the video of him claiming he carried a weapon in war, let's hope their blind ineptness continues.
chiefwiggum
3 months ago
Apparently, Walz also abandoned his battalion like months before they were deployed to Irag, leaving them without a leader. Others have called him out on this and two fellow soldiers wrote an open letter about it. While Walz's explanation seems plausible, the paperwork wasn't signed by him and objectively he did not fulfill his requirement dates when seeking Commander Master Sergeant rank.
gammanu95
3 months ago
A Lt. Col. in the Minn Nat Guard said that Walz submitted his retirement papers 5-7 months before they received the deployment orders for Iraq. So, those may not be linked. I do not know how far ahead of time senior enlisted ranks learn about anticipated future deployments; however, why would you give up the honor of achieving the highest possible enlisted rank when it is virtually handed to you?
What cannot be disputed is
1) Walz lies about carrying a weapon in war (and lies about military weapons being available to civilians)
2) Walz lies about being a retired Command Master Sergeant, and has been lying about it without repercussion for years
3) JD Vance actually went to a warzone when sent by his country
gammanu95
3 months ago
correction: Walz is making false claims to the title of Command Sergeant Major, and is actually only a Master Sergeant.

see 25? When you are in error, you admit it and correct it. No big deal
rickmacrodong
3 months ago
The right wants that same war again. Besides Trump and some others, the right, meaning many of its voters and politicians want that same war again. Most likely with Iran or any of israels neighbors they need help fighting
Hank Moody
3 months ago
@puddy “^ It's a "mistake" when Democrats do it. It's a "LIE!!!!!" when Republicans do.”

I think you misread my post. The “mistake” to which I was referring was the democrats’ mistake in not catching this in vetting and correcting it. If you go up a couple of posts you’ll actually see that I literally said it was a “lie.”

I’ll assume you just made a MISTAKE and did not LIE about what I said.
Puddy Tat
3 months ago
^ @Hank,

"Yes. Was his “in war” a mistake or a lie? I don’t know, but he should correct it now."

Thank you for at least admitting the possibility. I'm not buying that it was a "mistake." This is not a new fact and Walz has been caught in other lies about his military service. The "AR-15" and "in war" were enough for fellow veterans to call it "stolen valor."

Regardless, the media wouldn't give Trump any grace if the Republicans made the same "mistake." It would be plastered all over the media as evidence of his depravity.
Puddy Tat
3 months ago
Oh, scratch that. Looks like Walz has been straight-up lying his fat tits off about everything.

https://media.notthebee.com/articles/art…
https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/…
https://twitter.com/TheCalvinCooli1/stat…

"Hi, Governor Shapiro, it's Kamala, and I just wanted to say I'm so, so sorry..."
Mate27
3 months ago
SkiDumb needs to start a new band called “Rage Typing Against the Machine”!
twentyfive
3 months ago
Last thing anyone who actually served is interested in, is stolen valor claims by draft dodgers and others who never served a day in uniform.
skibum609
3 months ago
^^said the impotent mommy's boy. The pompous, arrogant douchebag idea that only people who served can comment on one's who lied about their service is about as un-American a comment as possible. If you haven't been raped cann you comment on crimes of rape? If you are disabled nd cannot work, can you comment on taxes? Fucking stupid comment. You related to the little faggot mate?
twentyfive
3 months ago
Your opinion means very little to me, I haven’t attacked anyone and I won’t over their service, records but you are talking about things you know nothing about and it’s obvious to all.
Puddy Tat
3 months ago
"Last thing anyone who actually served is interested in, is stolen valor claims by draft dodgers and others who never served a day in uniform."

Don't take Trump's (or even USMC vet Vance's) word for it. It's people who served, many alongside him, who are saying that.
skibum609
3 months ago
^^Everything I have posted is a fact and I made sure to glean the facts from left-wing news sites so pompous assholes such as yourself, who pretend to not be a left-wing d-bag "faux news" comment, so lie all you like Joe Biden.
Mate27
3 months ago
I can see it now, Skidumbs first song released on his first album with Rage Typing Against the Machine.

“Bullshit on Parade”!

It has to start somewhere. It has to start now….
twentyfive
3 months ago
^ you’re a closeted Trump supporter masquerading as a libertarian and phony as fuck.
Hank Moody
3 months ago
How do you guys rationalize Trump’s batshit crazy presser yesterday? Too many lies to sort out but him saying he knew Willie Brown very well and that they had crash landed in a helicopter together and that Willie said Kamala was very bad? It was Jerry Brown he rode in the helicopter with (not that they could be confused by insane person), Gavin Newsom was also in the helicopter and it didn’t crash land. Lie? Mistake? Dementia? All of the above?
Hank Moody
3 months ago
by A SANE person…

Where is that frigging EDIT button?
JimGassagain
3 months ago
Ski sure makes a mean word salad here. I mean who likes salad? Not me…..

Bippity, boppity, bacon!!
skibum609
3 months ago
Mate27 and Twenty-five - makes perfect sense that two peas in a pod would be the ones using numbers in a s/n. Douche and bag, together again.
I love salad. Its why as I approach 67 I am fit in every way. God bless avocados.
misterorange
3 months ago
"How do you guys rationalize Trump’s batshit crazy presser yesterday?"

Rationalize? I would say he fucked up. He should acknowledge it an move on.

He mixed up something that happened over 25 years ago, and then embellished it a bit for dramatic effect, which is kind of his signature style and easily recognizable. It ain't no Corn Pop story about swinging chains and kids rubbing their hands up and down a grown man's hairy legs.

Also worth noting, this was during an hour-long press conference, one of many hour-long pressers and sit-down interviews that he conducts almost daily. In the weeks since Kamala ascended to the Democrat throne, she has granted the press a total of 77 seconds.
Hank Moody
3 months ago
25 years ago? The helicopter ride was to visit wildfires in California while Trump was president in 2018. Is he saying it was a different helicopter ride?
Mate27
3 months ago
We all can see more evidence of skidumb’s “Bullshit on Parade”. Never brought up any numbers. Just simply stated how your band “Rage Typing Against the Machine” is fully in effect.

Now that is factually based reporting, you gay fat fuck! Lmfao….
gammanu95
3 months ago
"Last thing anyone who actually served is interested in, is stolen valor claims by draft dodgers and others who never served a day in uniform." A combat Marine veteran, Sen. J.D. Vance, is the one who called out the stolen valor lies of Walz. Did you really not know that? I've said it a million times: educate yourself before you speak [post]. No doubt remains of your idiocy, you don't have to keep proving it.
wallanon
3 months ago
I was interested enough in what was being said here about Governor Walz to Google this, so whatever comes next is because Google said so...

According to the Associated Press, Walz retired as a Command Sergeant Major and was reduced in rank after retirement because there were admin obligations he did not fulfill to maintain the rank prior to retiring. If the words were "served as" or "retired as" a Command Sergeant Major that would be accurate.

This is quoted from the article:

"Harris’ campaign has referred to Walz as a 'retired Command Sergeant Major,' one of the top ranks for an enlisted soldier. He did in fact achieve that rank, but personnel files show he was reduced in rank months after retiring. That left him as a master sergeant for benefits purposes.

Minnesota National Guard officials have said that Walz retired before completing coursework at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy, along with other requirements associated with his promotion."

https://apnews.com/article/walz-national…

The passage that was posted about the demotion being "for benefits purposes" doesn't make sense without the rest of it. Basically his rank was adjusted to reduce the benefits paid out because all stipulations of the promotion to CSM were not met.

The AR-15 line doesn't really seem that great from any angle if he specifically said that's what he carried. His speechwriters should tweak it to something like an AR-15 style weapon in "wartime". Every US service member in a recent 20 year period served during wartime, whether they saw combat or not, and it sounds like he was activated for a deployment. The AP article also stated that.

When he was deployed he could've possibly been issued a military rifle model he would've been required to fire and qualify on. Before the election cycle I wasn't aware this person existed (I'm not really political so don't track politicians) but it sounds like he needs to add a combat veteran consultant to his team to sort out the words he's choosing to use. If he's actually using those words.

This person is the governor of a state whose people elected Jesse the Body Ventura to run it. Let's try to keep things in perspective.
skibum609
3 months ago
fat gay fuck? Lmao MATE27 fucked up and admitted who she really was. Truly funny when a fat loser calls a fit person, 10x smarter and better looking than them fat. So gay, you wish you were trans. Number in a s/n = admission of being a homo.
Mate27
3 months ago
Wow! Just wow! How can anyone even respond to such stupidity? Well I guess that’s why your called SkiDumb.

You’re taking a bite out of the trump book of lies and twisting out a word salad. Never brought up any numbers, except I remember how fat you reported you were on here, your words, during an Ozempic thread. Your words fat fuck, under 6 foot tall and over 240 lbs.

Are you wearing your Trump shoes right now, SkiDumb? Lmfao.. gotta be one of the best SNL parodies ever, relatable to SkiDumb https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WwgzcXnOHy…
Mate27
3 months ago
lol! Skidumb stars in the next movie “White Men Can Trump”! Lmfao….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WwgzcXnOHy…
twentyfive
3 months ago
Let’s compare military service records
Vance served 4 years, never in combat
Walz served 24 years never in combat,
So fucking what, neither was a draft dodger, Trump was.
The rest of this is just misleading information as a poor attempt to smear a political opponent, and you folks are playing right into this nonsense
P. S. Chris LaCivita, not sure if I have the name right but he was the Republican operative who engineered the Swift Boat smear against Kerry, and the same person is behind the smear attempt on Walz
Attack all you want these are the facts.
misterorange
3 months ago
@Hank "25 years ago? The helicopter ride was to visit wildfires in California while Trump was president in 2018."

Yeah I worded that incorrectly. I was thinking that Willie was boning Kamala all those years ago, and wrongly implied the helicopter ride. That happens sometimes when you blast off a response quickly without thinking it through. I think that's what happened to Trump when he made the convoluted statement.

Bound to happen when you spend as much time as he does facing off with media, both friendly and hostile. But it won't ever happen to someone who only gives scripted teleprompter speeches and otherwise hides behind surrogates for all their media interaction.

Puddy Tat
3 months ago
"His speechwriters should tweak it to something like an AR-15 style weapon in "wartime"."

Uh, no. They're constructed similarly and fire the same caliber bullet. But the selective fire capability is the huge ass difference. The M9 is a weapon of war too, a semi automatic Beretta 9mm pistol, same as I can get at my local gun shop.

This isn't word choice, any more than "my TUSCL handle is Founder" is true except for the word "Founder." This is a lie that has been repeated and covered up for years.

Jonathan Chait, staunch liberal columnist, said that the Walz choice is a gamble that they can win rural white voters based purely on a folksy style, even with values opposite to theirs.

This choice was a dud. Not much time to fix.
rickmacrodong
3 months ago
Skibum, do you mean numbers in a screen name when you say numbers in a s/n? Just pointing out… your screen name has even more numbers than theirs…
Hank Moody
3 months ago
@orange Willie Brown told the NYT that he never was in a helicopter with Trump. Trump just made the whole thing up. That’s his brand but the ease with which he lies and adds details, while not really news anymore, is kinda funny while they are attacking Walz for lying.

@puddy - the only clip I’ve seen of Walz saying he used a weapon “in war” looked like it was from some time ago, and he was walking around a room. It didn’t look like a prepared speech and definitely no teleprompter. Maybe he’s doubled down and related the claim? I called it a lie already and didn’t feel the need to research it further but mention it in response to the comment you quoted about speechwriters and teleprompters.
Hank Moody
3 months ago
RESTATED the claim. Fucking lack of an edit button. Or me speed typing today.
gammanu95
3 months ago
Someone asked, " who should our multi-ethnic black/brown not African female California super-liberal poorly spoken presidential candidate choose for a running mate?"
Someone else answered, "pick a fat old white guy from the midwest."

Some dumb mf found the batshit-craziest liberal valor-stealing fruitcake in the Great Lakes. This is so on brand for the Biden-era democrat party.
datinman
3 months ago
Per CNN: But, according to CNN's Brianna Keilar, Vance "may be an imperfect messenger" on the issue.
"Because we have, as you introduced him, as a combat correspondent, which is what [Vance's] title was," Keilar told her CNN colleague Dana Bash Thursday. "But when you dig a little deeper into that, he was a public affairs specialist, someone who did not see combat, which certainly the title ‘combat correspondent,' kind of gives you a different impression. So he may be the imperfect messenger on that."

So both sides of the aisle are pissing on the VP candidates for honorably serving their country. Meanwhile both Trump and Biden were CCR's fortunate sons and too privileged to go serve in Vietnam.

Here and I thought the "stolen valor" crap ended when Dougster left.
gammanu95
3 months ago
But Walz is not honorably serving his country. He walked away from his unit and has claimed merit and ranked he did not achieve. How is that not stolen valor?
wallanon
3 months ago
"He walked away from his unit"

The guy retired after 20+ years in the national guard, not the regular Army, about 10 months before the unit depolyed to Iraq. He'd already served on active duty and been deployed to Europe in support of troops who were in OIF and OEF.

"...and has claimed merit and ranked he did not achieve."

Multiple sources, including the military, have stated he was promoted to the rank he is claiming and was wearing it legitimately on his uniform the day he retired. I don't really have an opinion on how he's chosen to explain his service record, but can understand why someone would try to keep it simple. If people have come out if the woodwork to tell the story differently, I suppose they'll get their say and whoever is interested will make up their own minds.
Mate27
3 months ago
^ now where’s that like button?
jaybud999
3 months ago
Calculations on this discussion:

Topic ON WALZ: 98%
Topic ON VANCE: 2%

Smh.....c'mon orange boys......you're going to focus your energy on tearing down Walz, why not talk up Vance instead? Anything good, worthwhile to discuss there?
Mate27
3 months ago
^^ again, where’s that like button?

FYI: I voted for trump twice. I think there are a lot of people who did the same as me. He’s an American grifter!
misterorange
3 months ago
^^ You voted for Trump? Yeah, right. I call bullshit. Do us a favor and don't vote for him. We don't need votes from shitheads like you.
Mate27
3 months ago
It’s that kind of out of left field rhetoric that discredits the fringe. No basis in credence.
twentyfive
3 months ago
>>Dumbass

2 days ago
"Last thing anyone who actually served is interested in, is stolen valor claims by draft dodgers and others who never served a day in uniform." A combat Marine veteran, Sen. J.D. Vance, is the one who called out the stolen valor lies of Walz. Did you really not know that? I've said it a million times: educate yourself before you speak [post]. No doubt remains of your idiocy, you don't have to keep proving it.<<

A combat marine Sen. j. D. Vance, really, I think you’re a proven idiot who speaks before he has the facts.
gammanu95
3 months ago
^LOL, no life but to troll online looking for me. I own you and won again. nice retirement, loser.
twentyfive
3 months ago
^ weirdo 👎🏿
skibum609
3 months ago
When Mate27 pays a woman to marry him, she will fuck every male neighbor and Mate27 will be there to clean them up and make them a sandwich afterwards. Mate27 is a closeted young man with no future, no present and a past that just makes him laughable.
gammanu95
3 months ago
^^ What did I say? "no life but to troll online looking for me. I own you and won again. nice retirement, loser." Proving me right, again.

It is beginning to read more and more that Walz knew about the deployment to Iraq when he submitted his retirement papers. Even worse, he may have made the decision to retire early when he accepted the promotion to E-9. Again, true to form for the modern democrat party, they failed miserably to vet this guy, and are stuck with two turds at the top of the ballot.
twentyfive
3 months ago
^ as usual the troll can’t simply admit he’s stupid and speaks out before he has all the facts. Do yourself a favor and shut the fuck up while you’re behind. I’m tired of dealing with your undisciplined ignorance
You’re nothing but a little punk and quite frankly I’m tired of you as my bitch.
gammanu95
3 months ago
Right after I call him out for having no life but following me around online, he follows me online some more! I love it. I am in his head, pulling his strings, pwning him all day every day.

Walz kind of reminds me of 25. A fat, stupid, old, liberal, self-hating, white guy who hides behind his DD214 like it is his whole validation. One little puff of the truth, and their whole worthless life of lies falls down around them. Man, I love it!
twentyfive
3 months ago
^Weirdo 👎🏿
gammanu95
3 months ago
^Loser 💩
twentyfive
3 months ago
^ weirdo 🐵🐒🐵👎🏿
gammanu95
3 months ago
Nice retirement. You must really enjoy life as my cockholster.
twentyfive
3 months ago
^ wipe the orange sperm off your lips, weirdo
twentyfive
3 months ago
^^Hey weirdo you use homophobic slurs pretty liberally, my bet is you’d never talk like that to my face, you are the biggest pussy on this site, you’re definitely a fuckn weirdo.
Mate27
3 months ago
^^ this is more appropriate for SkiDumb. Spot on description of him actually as he is tuscl’s #1 rage typist!
skibum609
3 months ago
^said the impotent little bitch, as he fearfully dribbled urine down her leg.
rickmacrodong
3 months ago
Gammanu you feel good insulting an 80 year old man? Comon now mate…
gammanu95
3 months ago
Aww, is the demented old cockholster triggered? Don't worry loser, you probably don't have much "retirement" left to waste by following me around online.
twentyfive
3 months ago
^ Weirdo
gammanu95
3 months ago
Definitely triggered^
twentyfive
3 months ago
^ Weirdo
checks all the boxes definitely a sign of needing mental health care
gammanu95
3 months ago
^loser
checks all the boxes definitely a sign of needing to be Baker Acted for everyones safety
twentyfive
3 months ago
^Weirdo
Like I’ve said before not an original thought in his mind and strange fixation with cockholsters, a sadly closeted gay boy
Hope he gets the help he needs before he commits suicide
gammanu95
3 months ago
^loser
Calls me a homophobe and then tries use gay as a slur against me.
Has nothing to live for and projects suicide fantasies onto others
twentyfive
3 months ago
^ Still weirdly obsessed with me so yep you’re a weirdo
Definitely a homosexual and a cunty little orange duck sucker.
gammanu95
3 months ago
You actually logged into TUSCL at midnight just to see if I had posted? You are so obsessed with me it is worse than pathetic! Get a life, small dick energy!
misterorange
3 months ago
Haha, now Kamala wants to give $25,000 to first-time home buyers. Yeah, how could that possibly go wrong? Lol. It's like she fuckin WANTS another housing bubble. What an idiot.
misterorange
3 months ago
And $6,000 for every newborn baby. Yeah... let's encourage pregnancy among poverty stricken women so they can get a few dollars in their pocket. That couldn't have any downside, right?
rickmacrodong
3 months ago
Misterorange, well its good for us PL’s at least. Nice cheap labor.
motorhead
3 months ago
Just like student loan forgiveness, it’s just another scheme to buy votes.

To my Democratic friends on TUSCL. I get it. Trump has more baggage than a stripper going to Vegas for week, but how can anyone justify voting for a candidate who is more liberal than Bernie Sanders. (When Sanders never polled greater than 20%).

If y’all want Socialism - move to Cuba.
Puddy Tat
3 months ago
^ It seems every few generations we need to re-learn how butt-for-brains socialism really is. We'd rather be equal in misery than unequal in prosperity.

Now the libs are working overtime to whitewash Harris' record.
Oh, the VP has no real power over inflation.
Oh, she wasn't really the "border czar."
Oh, inflation was corporate greed and we had nothing to do with it.
Oh, she didn't REALLY want to ban fracking, abolish private health insurance, and defund the police until 15 minutes ago.

Shame on us if we fall for this shit.
misterorange
3 months ago
^^ I don't understand how anyone could hate himself and his family enough to vote for that piece of garbage.
gammanu95
3 months ago
for 40 months Kammy was the last person in the room with Joe Biden. Suddenly, she had no influence nor accountability for any of the failed policies since 2020. How stupid are you to accept and repeat this claim?
TheeOSU
3 months ago
Strongly agree with the last 4 comments above me. It's a shame that around half the country doesn't have the brains to see the downward spiral we're in.
Many of them are giving their votes for freebies that will give them temporary comfort but eventually lead to their suffering.
funonthaside
3 months ago
Once a home seller discovers a buyer qualifies for $25k tax credit, the acceptable offer will increase by $25k.
rickmacrodong
3 months ago
Funontheside that isnt how the economy works…If a shop owner discovers that someones uncle, or government is giving them an extra $100 to shop, will they raise prices of their items by $100 as well?

The reason the 25k tax credit will raise house prices is simply because of the increased inflation it would entail and increased demand for housing it would create…
But things dont work in a linear fashion. Inflation happens when the currency supply increases. Its not as linear as “buyer receives an extra 1k so seller raises prices by 1k”

As far as the seller.. it isnt their business where you are getting the money from… and it makes no difference to the seller whether the money youre paying for the house is your personal funds, Or your uncle gave you some, or the government gave you some, .. etc.

even now if a seller has a house listed for 750k, and the buyer informs them theyre going to get a 25k tax credit, the seller would have to be an absolute buffoon if they then say “okay well the price is 775k now since youre getting a 25k tax credit”.

Or it would be like if tesla raises their prices in response to the electric vehicle tax credits. It would defeat the purpose of the tax credit if tesla raises their prices in response
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