Does this escort have a handler/pimp/bf?

Maybe....just maybe....she has a life outside of her provider role. You can try to convince yourself he wasn't her bf/handler, but we all know reality. As soon as PLs delude themselves into thinking they are the only/favorite ones, PLs quickly lose enjoyment of the activity as they get spun up in truths.

I forgot to add another thing… she is a “GFE” provider so she does things like bbbj, DFK, DATY… which most pimped girls wont offer.

Also its not me trying to convince she doesnt have a bf/handler. That was what I thought initially. It was her who claimed she was a client (and another guy i asked about it).

Also i refuse to see someone who has a handler or bf or pimp. I dont care about being an “only/favorite one”, in fact i dont care if she has a million clients. Im not looking to support a pimp lifestyle or some loser guy mooching funds off his woman. In fact i dont agree with anyone leeching off anyone including a stay at home guy leeching off a doctor wife or something like that.

@rick - you're new to this whole punter thing, aren't you?

Also shes 40 years old

One time I met a really hot escort in a metro Midwest town. She had several favorable reviews on TER at the time. I ended up staying the in same large hotel (300+ rooms) that her incall was at.

I go to her incall (same floor I was on) and everything went as planned. Next morning, not paying attention I walk into the elevator and there she is, with what I would assume is her baby daddy, and 2 young kids. Talk about awkward! Nobody said a word. Walk out and good grief my car is parked one car over to the new BMW 7 series they’re getting into.

That was a long drive that day, trying to understand how this guy is probably playing video games all day and babysitting while his girlfriend/wife bangs away all day. Depending on your morals/values you’re saying that guy is a simp, or a genius. Either way it gave me such a weird feeling, seeing her kids (at least I assume they are her kids) and her boyfriend/husband and her, and what I did to her the night before… did he know who I was? Who knows, I’m sure he was in the next room or the room across the hall the night before.

What kinds of things did you do with that escort though? A lot of the ones with baby daddy/pimp turn out to be scammers/offer nothing else besides condom full service. The rules can be so restrictive its often better to just not book them.

The GFE providers are more likely to be single i believe… similar to the pornstar escorts. The GFE type services they provide are just too much of a dealbreaker for many relationships.

@rickmacrodong

I will play along and comment on your discussion and answer your question.

Q: Does this escort have a handler/pimp/bf?
A: Yes, she does have one of more of those.

Most women in the illegal “pay for sex” industry in this country need some help to protect them in case something goes wrong.

So either they have to have some protection in the form of a manager, pimp, handler, bf, or agency that will help them in case that get arrested or cheated/assaulted by clients etc.

There are a few that are “independent”, but this doesn’t seem to be your girl’s style.

Your girl has to pay for services to get her hair and nails done, and has to pay for many services to many people, so you are supporting them too, for providing some service to your girl.

It is up to you if you want to look for a new girl to provide the service you need/want…

Let’s be careful out there.

And remember Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.

:D

“What kinds of things did you do with that escort though? A lot of the ones with baby daddy/pimp turn out to be scammers/offer nothing else besides condom full service. The rules can be so restrictive it’s often better to just not book them.”

She was well raviewed on TER at the time so I wasn’t too worried about services and scams. The raviews matched the services she offered IME so everything worked out fine.

Why would you care what she does with the rest of her life when she’s not with you?
OP would likely be pissed off if the roles were reversed and his provider saw him with his wife and kids and she got all judgmental by thinking “how can he say he loves his wife and kids after what he just paid to do to me”?

Strippers often ask me if I’m married (as if it’s not obvious that I’m wearing a wedding ring), and occasionally one will say something like, “don’t you think you’re cheating on your wife?” And this always pisses me off since I feel like my relationship with my wife (or kids) is none of her business.

Most escorts advertise themselves as being independent. Its false advertising if thats not the case.
Also as mentioned im not looking to support a pimp/gangster arrangement or support some guy leeching off his girl. No doubt there are plenty of people like me, because so many escorts lie about being independent and theres so many clients who would refuse to see them if they knew there was a pimp or SO in the picture.
Not to mention the numerous examples of scammer escorts/strippers who straight up scam/rob people.
The role reversal example you posted doesnt make sense. Especially if i never claimed to be married or unmarried. Im the one paying the escort, who is advertising herself as independent. She has no room to complain about whether im married or not, have kids or not etc.
they have the right to refuse service to a married guy and refuse to engage with someone they believe is cheating. You can lie to them, but they can still ask and refuse service just like you can ask and refuse to be a client. And honestly, seeing how many escorts and dancers lie about having a pimp/boyfriend/husband i think there must be numerous clients for whom it is a problem.

One aspect is the false advertising aspect which is when they claim to be independent but arent.
One aspect is if the client doesnt want to support a leeching pimp relationship.
But another aspect is some people dont want the drama. The client may not want to risk banging some woman with an angry jealous partner. The stripper may not want the drama of an angry jealous wife coming after her.
So it is in fact, everyones business, whether the client or the provider is married or in a relationship.

I appreciate the reason why you'd want to avoid a SWer with a pimp. For me, it's not the pimp per say that bothers me, it's the idea that she might be trafficked and or working against her will.

However, with the information you've given us, I don't know that anyone could say for sure or not. Probably the best way to find out would be to ask her.

Again, this belongs on the Dutch sex guide
We maintain a thin veneer of respectability by cloaking our adult antics in the legal confines of gentlemens clubs. Not "hey guys, let's talk about hookers."

Where is the Dutch sex guide? Not sure about that…

She has a BF, at the least. No clear evidence he is a pimp. Having a boyfriend wouldn't be inconsistent with her claim that she is "independent", but it sounds like you just even like the idea of another man benefitting off of the fruits of her labor.
If it were me, I wouldn't have considered asking her about the guy, since it wouldn't be any of my business. This is obviously important to you, so I'd probably start searching for another escort who offers GFE and hope you accidentally run into her BF and have to start the search all over again.

Bf/husband becomes pimp by default.
Also she tricked me. She said its fine if i cum in her mouth. Yet as soon as i start cumming she took her mouth off and jerked me instead. With her boyfriend or pimp she might be swallowing every last drop. That makes me look bad since I paid for a service yet got subpar service.
Did you mean “hope you don’t accidentally run into her bf and start the search all over”?

And yeah for this reason i stick to GFE providers, pornstars, agency girls. There are many other gfe providers. This particular woman I paid her a higher rate than others since i only saw her every few months.

I often dont even repeat with a girl anyway unless she does CIM and swallows. That is one of the defining things that for me gets me to repeat. So with most escorts, even if GFE, its done after 1 visit. They definitely at least have to allow DATY for me to consider seeing them, and things like bbbj, fingering, DFK and CIM help get me as a repeat customer. This one was doing all those besides CIM which i guess she didnt want to do yet didnt want to admit she doesnt want to do it.

Btw she is 40 and is aging, and has under eye circles coming in even with makeup on. How do you think she would react if i started mentioning how im not gonna see her again because she’s aging getting older and has under eye circles. Would she want to fight? Want to send her man after me?

"Did you mean “hope you don’t accidentally run into her bf and start the search all over”?"
Yes. Sorry.
Her age is a separate issue. Good thing about escorts is you can ghost her without consequences. Hopefully there's no trail for the man to follow to come after you

I'm always amazed that anyone takes this troll seriously. Even for a moment.

Not trolling here my friend…

An Independent Escort simply means she's is not part of an agency. It does not mean she isn't part of a pimp's stable.

It seems that pimped girls are MORE likely to have an open menu, to increase income, not less likely.

If it weren't for married men, there would be far fewer providers and/or less income for providers. So, it's comical that a provider would look down on married clients. Also, married guys are generally older, and thus have higher incomes. And, as a man ages (and increases his income), he is more likely to be married, as that is the general trend of society (although marriage rates may be decreasing, and people get divorced).

Ask her about her relationship with BF/Husband/Pimp? Sure...she would be completely honest about that, as providers never lie.

If its an old school pimp who has many girls he is pimping, or a gang who is pimping many girls, in those cases they might have an open menu. But nowadays the boyfriend pimp or husband pimp is increasingly common and those cases the provider will more likely have a restrictive menu because things like bbbj or kissing can be considered “cheating” in their relationship.
Also when the providers claim to be independent they do mean they dont work for an agency nor for a pimp.

Girls can, and do, say whatever they want. I don't think there is a Code of Conduct or Official Definition for what is "Independent".

"She didnt see me but I asked her about it over text and she claimed it was a client."

Why did you text her to ask her about it?

Its none of your business what she does on her own time. I don't see the point of making up what if scenarios about her life. It doesn't concern you.

Lol it is my business considering i dont see girls with boyfriend pimps.

Are you autistic or just a troll?
How many times do you repeat the exact same thing?

I think you're puddy tat as well. You repeat weird things about trans women with that profile and prostitutes with pimps on the rickmacrodong profile.

Its always good to avoid prostitutes with pimps. Plenty of people who review escorts, specifically look for ones who dont have pimps. You can never be 100% certain but obviously, if you find someone who provides GFE services that weeds out the vast majority of pimped hoes.

Icee aka IceeLoco aka big-mac.
Lulz.
You going to start talking about how pimping is the only honest work?

I wonder who’s going to be his new Trap Baby?