Customer service experience just sucks in most strip clubs

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Muddy
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I mean what other place where you spend hundreds do you get scolded and watched like your a criminal? "Hey hey hey, don't touch below the waist!" while your getting stared down or monitored like a hawk on camera. What about hey dude thanks man for spending all this money at our shitty ghetto ass strip club! This is one guy who pulled the trigger on our overpriced VIP's, maybe we can let him live a little bit, give him some leeway. If he accidently touches her waist, how about I just ignore it. Na.

ID scanned is most spots now, Total Recall style in some spots. Even filling paperwork like your in a doctor's office to enter.

Begged for tips.

Getting charged $9 for a bottle of water instead just letting me have tap. (after of course I paid $25 to get in)

You go at certain hour, you might as well be at San Quentin.

DJ's just blaring their shitty music. Songs cut to two minutes. Same song on MTV was like 3 1/2.

And most girls you deal with let's be honest many not all, but many are just huge cunts that hate men, and they will be giving you the business, every single step of the way. It's not let's make this guys experience as awesome as it can be, because this MY customer I want him to go home happy, it's more often way more like let's make this asshole bow to my pussy.

Despite all that we still go.

(And for those that say how many business out there have chicks sucking your dick, yes true but that's not the majority of strip club experiences)

It's just amazing the BS we tolerate for this hobby. I'm not really fazed by any of it, but when you look back you think to yourself maybe I should be. Just sort of par for the course though. And while I still enjoy it, most business in America could never get away anything the stuff that flys in these joints.

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Muddy
8 months ago
But hey maybe this is why you see more clubs closing now adays then opening. The whole experience is too rough on the customer. They'll go once and do the do-si-do but they ain't coming back.
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twentyfive
8 months ago
The clubs I go to don’t treat me like that, I’d never spend a penny if they did.
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Assmanjoe
8 months ago
Many clubs are trending in this direction post pandemic and are failing as a result - higher prices and lower quality is not a winning formula for any business particularly one thats completely dependent on disposable income. There are still some good old school joints around though, at least in my neck of the woods. Theyre usually dives but a lot of fun.
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Puddy Tat
8 months ago
Which is why I don't see the point of going to 99% of strip clubs where I won't get my dick sucked.
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azdd
8 months ago
This is not my experience in Phoenix. Bourbon Street is super laid back about enforcement, and their servers are top notch, especially Taylor and Alexis on the nightshift. Girls are easy going, willing to chat, and mostly take rejection well. You almost never see bouncers anywhere away from the entrance except when they seat someone at a “reserved” table. At the Hi Liter, servers are generally attentive, and although the bouncers do wander the floor somewhat, I haven’t seen them be dicks about contact, at least not lately. Some dancers here tend to have some GPS, and will sit and talk with regulars instead of working the floor, which is annoying, but part of the game.
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skibum609
8 months ago
Where I club locally regular customers are treated like gold, so we are used to a higher level of service. Last Florida trip at the Booby Trap in Pompano management was good about coming over, introducing themselves and asking me if I needed anything. In general, if you spend money and don't act like a dick, I think strip club service in general is ok. If you think about it their jobs are similar to working in a casino dealing/floor, where the sour face is the general employee look and unfriendliness the rule.
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nicespice
8 months ago
There recently was a whole dancer subreddit that got deleted without warning—without even notification to the person who created/moderated that group. Some dancers have been wondering whether other dancer related subreddits are next on the chopping block, and I wondered whether there may be a chance dancers end up jumping ship to somewhere like here where they won’t be deleted.

But then I see this thread (which is far from being the most inflammatory), and I remember why that is unlikely. 👀
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Manuellabore
8 months ago
Thanks to TUSCL, and prolific, insightful reviewers like the esteemed OP, it is possible to avoid most of those experiences if you want to, including finding dancers who at least conceal their hatred/disdain/whatever of the customers. If you find yourself stuck in a community where the clubs are really locked down, there are always the escort sites
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ilbbaicnl
8 months ago
If you want to have an interrogation before the dance, about where/how you can and can't touch, and you get lied to, that's a legit beef. But it's infantile not to expect that different dancers will not have different things they are OK with.

Overregulation and/or consolidated industries lead to bad customer experiences. Few business are more heavily and stupidly regulated than strip clubs, and the corporate ones are at best mediocre.

I've heard enough stories about dancers being assaulted at work to not see cameras in back rooms as a good idea.

Ironic to complain about ID scans when warrantless eavesdropping has just be approved for two more years. I think they may be a good safety measure. If there are laws requiring the data to be erased after a short period of time (as with plate cams).

Being a haven for sex work related posting is Truth Social's best plan for survival.
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minnow
8 months ago
Have any particular club in mind, Muddy ? Almost sounds like typical NYC club.
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ClubFan81077
8 months ago
@nicespice

It always bums me out when clubs don't take good care of their customers, and it also bums me out when clubs don't take good care of their dancers. Customers should be treated well and not taken advantage of, either by a dancer or the club. Dancers should be treated well and not taken advantage of, either by a customer or the club. I just hate it when people treat each other like shit, either in clubs, or anywhere else. Sadly, there's just way too many examples in the world now of people treating each other like shit, apparently just because they can...

I totally understand the frustration that both customers AND dancers have in just trying to have a good experience together in a challenging world. So I try to make the best of things. I try to go to clubs that want to take care of their dancers and their customers, and keep prices reasonable for customers and house fees reasonable for their dancers. And then I try to find dancers who are kind of like myself in some important ways, where we both respect each other and treat each other like actual humans with feelings. Sure, it sometimes seems a bit tougher to find in today's world, but there are still some great people out there, and I do my best to try to connect with them whenever possible.

I know I would be very happy if more dancers came here to post, even if they need to voice frustrations about the way they're being treated. We need places where we can discuss, empathize, learn, and maybe even occasionally find other good people to connect with!
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Brahma2k
8 months ago
This is about the right SC. The right SC will treat you decently or better. Girls in the right SC will behave better. So unless you have a must see CF or have the system gamed at a specific SC, why are you going there? That’s your cash you’re rewarding that SC with. Take that hard earned cash and reward a better SC.
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skibum609
8 months ago
The funniest part of this thread is the idea that strippers get treated like shit and yet somehow everyone else has a job where they are paid well, treated well and respected. I stayed on at the last job I ever had working for someone else from April 15 to December 18 to clean up my cases, so that they wouldn't lose the clients and my replacement could start fresh. I felt an obligation since I had been there 17 years and had vacationed with my two bosses for 16 of them on a golf trip. Of course, I was not invited to the Christmas party on December 21 and when the receptionist brought up how classless she thought it was during the party, she was overheard, sent home and suspended for a week.
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nicespice
8 months ago
@clubfan

I would agree. I think the best balance is a club that either a club that sets firm boundaries for what is expected from both dancers and customers, and enforces it consistently. OR, if managers want to be more libertine, is so in a way that it’s easy for both dancers and customers to get away from whoever they don’t like. For example, Texas clubs have both a lot of dancers and a lot of customers, so people are pretty good at getting away from whoever they don’t like.

I think some get jaded by the idea of good customer service because some customers are given an inch, and then write these grumpy “we need to hold these dancers ACCOUNTABLE to not ripping us off”(dude, if it’s a club like Desire, Hiliter, Red Raven etc, then stfu. Things are going well enough as it is). And some not only out their favorite dancer providers on their activities, but feel the need to also mention what car they drive, etc.

Heck, at one particular club, I’ve met customers who will smugly point across the room and say “that is so-and-so, I don’t remember her dancer name”, when I had only been working there for like one shift or two. I really hope those dancers were bullshitting when they gave out their legal names.
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Muddy
8 months ago
@minnow na no mostly in general. I haven't been to an NYC club in years now. But I will see they may have been one recent west virginia club that triggered the thread for me. The girl was great but the set up, and getting stared down, I was just like fuck all this.
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ClubFan81077
8 months ago
@nicespice

When I read your reply, it occurred to me that we might be trying to express similar sentiments, but from different perspectives! I just like to see people treat each other with respect, be thoughtful, and try to always do the right thing, and it gets really frustrating when some human behavior sometimes seems to be the complete opposite of "doing the right thing". Even from my perspective as a customer, I'd say I'm usually more bothered by seeing a dancer being mistreated in some way by a customer than I am seeing myself being mistreated by a dancer, for instance. It all depends on the situation, of course, but I try really hard to see things through the perspective of others as well, and not just from my own perspective.

Anyway, even though I've never been to any of the three clubs you mentioned in your second paragraph, I think I understand the point you were trying to make, if I'm not getting confused on context, which is entirely possible with me! lol And I've been to Baby Dolls in Dallas, so I knew what you meant about some of the Texas clubs being HUGE, even though I never thought about it before now in terms of being able to avoid someone more easily!
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shailynn
8 months ago
“@minnow na no mostly in general. I haven't been to an NYC club in years now. But I will see they may have been one recent west virginia club that triggered the thread for me. The girl was great but the set up, and getting stared down, I was just like fuck all this.”

Muddy - I was maybe the zero caffeine version of you years ago, traveling a lot going into several different clubs most of them shitty but just because I was there I wanted to check them out. What you hinted at has happened to me a million of times in WV and many other states. You’re an outsider coming into somewhere where the same 12 assholes are there every night at the bar and they get a “random” customer once a week.

You’d think they’d be kind since you’re dropping some money in their but their backwoods bigotry thinks since you’ve had a shower at least once that week and have all your teeth that you must be an FBI agent or a cop coming to bust up the place.

IMO when they don’t know you - you get the cold shoulder, many places will even give you the cold shoulder even though they know you. Most places like this survive because there probably aren’t a lot of options nearby.

This isn’t just for stripclubs, I’ve seen a lot of businesses treat customers like shit and they get away with it because they supply a product or service that can’t be bought anywhere else nearby.
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gammanu95
8 months ago
I told you, Muddy, don't go to Vixens
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Book Guy
8 months ago
@skibum609 excellent point, why are we assuming the REST of employment places are so all-fired respectful and civil?

@ the general discussion
It seems a consensus is that you're picking the wrong clubs. I don't get hassled, nor do I get the FEELING of being hassled, at my regular club, but I can guess that the high-volume high-tourist places in my city (New Orleans) would have that kind of panopticon scrutiny going on (if I went to them; which I don't).

Some places are recently succeeding quite well, I think, though there was a lull in strip club performance during and immediately after the 2020 pandemic period. I hope that what we might be experiencing is a rearrangement in the virtual-versus-physical world's business models, as the economy in while starts to determine that some things just can't be relegated to cyber-experiences. Strip clubbing absolutely could be one of the brick-and-mortar-only business sectors, even though it SEEMS to be threatened by online opportunities (the theory that girls can make more on OnlyFans, f.e.). I think that good strip clubs sell the sense of membership, belonging, and interpersonal opportunity, that PL customers do not experience in regular life. A strip club owner or manager who figures this fact out, and then manages to implement it in all the ways he runs the place, especially in the ways the girls interact with the customers, will probably have a highly regarded club, and I suspect it would not be expensive to implement these sorts of changes, therefore it likely would be very profitable to implement them.

Just a theory. I'm a good customer because I spend. What do I know about running things?
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