Customer service experience just sucks in most strip clubs
Muddy
USA
ID scanned is most spots now, Total Recall style in some spots. Even filling paperwork like your in a doctor's office to enter.
Begged for tips.
Getting charged $9 for a bottle of water instead just letting me have tap. (after of course I paid $25 to get in)
You go at certain hour, you might as well be at San Quentin.
DJ's just blaring their shitty music. Songs cut to two minutes. Same song on MTV was like 3 1/2.
And most girls you deal with let's be honest many not all, but many are just huge cunts that hate men, and they will be giving you the business, every single step of the way. It's not let's make this guys experience as awesome as it can be, because this MY customer I want him to go home happy, it's more often way more like let's make this asshole bow to my pussy.
Despite all that we still go.
(And for those that say how many business out there have chicks sucking your dick, yes true but that's not the majority of strip club experiences)
It's just amazing the BS we tolerate for this hobby. I'm not really fazed by any of it, but when you look back you think to yourself maybe I should be. Just sort of par for the course though. And while I still enjoy it, most business in America could never get away anything the stuff that flys in these joints.
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But then I see this thread (which is far from being the most inflammatory), and I remember why that is unlikely. 👀
Overregulation and/or consolidated industries lead to bad customer experiences. Few business are more heavily and stupidly regulated than strip clubs, and the corporate ones are at best mediocre.
I've heard enough stories about dancers being assaulted at work to not see cameras in back rooms as a good idea.
Ironic to complain about ID scans when warrantless eavesdropping has just be approved for two more years. I think they may be a good safety measure. If there are laws requiring the data to be erased after a short period of time (as with plate cams).
Being a haven for sex work related posting is Truth Social's best plan for survival.
It always bums me out when clubs don't take good care of their customers, and it also bums me out when clubs don't take good care of their dancers. Customers should be treated well and not taken advantage of, either by a dancer or the club. Dancers should be treated well and not taken advantage of, either by a customer or the club. I just hate it when people treat each other like shit, either in clubs, or anywhere else. Sadly, there's just way too many examples in the world now of people treating each other like shit, apparently just because they can...
I totally understand the frustration that both customers AND dancers have in just trying to have a good experience together in a challenging world. So I try to make the best of things. I try to go to clubs that want to take care of their dancers and their customers, and keep prices reasonable for customers and house fees reasonable for their dancers. And then I try to find dancers who are kind of like myself in some important ways, where we both respect each other and treat each other like actual humans with feelings. Sure, it sometimes seems a bit tougher to find in today's world, but there are still some great people out there, and I do my best to try to connect with them whenever possible.
I know I would be very happy if more dancers came here to post, even if they need to voice frustrations about the way they're being treated. We need places where we can discuss, empathize, learn, and maybe even occasionally find other good people to connect with!
I would agree. I think the best balance is a club that either a club that sets firm boundaries for what is expected from both dancers and customers, and enforces it consistently. OR, if managers want to be more libertine, is so in a way that it’s easy for both dancers and customers to get away from whoever they don’t like. For example, Texas clubs have both a lot of dancers and a lot of customers, so people are pretty good at getting away from whoever they don’t like.
I think some get jaded by the idea of good customer service because some customers are given an inch, and then write these grumpy “we need to hold these dancers ACCOUNTABLE to not ripping us off”(dude, if it’s a club like Desire, Hiliter, Red Raven etc, then stfu. Things are going well enough as it is). And some not only out their favorite dancer providers on their activities, but feel the need to also mention what car they drive, etc.
Heck, at one particular club, I’ve met customers who will smugly point across the room and say “that is so-and-so, I don’t remember her dancer name”, when I had only been working there for like one shift or two. I really hope those dancers were bullshitting when they gave out their legal names.
When I read your reply, it occurred to me that we might be trying to express similar sentiments, but from different perspectives! I just like to see people treat each other with respect, be thoughtful, and try to always do the right thing, and it gets really frustrating when some human behavior sometimes seems to be the complete opposite of "doing the right thing". Even from my perspective as a customer, I'd say I'm usually more bothered by seeing a dancer being mistreated in some way by a customer than I am seeing myself being mistreated by a dancer, for instance. It all depends on the situation, of course, but I try really hard to see things through the perspective of others as well, and not just from my own perspective.
Anyway, even though I've never been to any of the three clubs you mentioned in your second paragraph, I think I understand the point you were trying to make, if I'm not getting confused on context, which is entirely possible with me! lol And I've been to Baby Dolls in Dallas, so I knew what you meant about some of the Texas clubs being HUGE, even though I never thought about it before now in terms of being able to avoid someone more easily!
Muddy - I was maybe the zero caffeine version of you years ago, traveling a lot going into several different clubs most of them shitty but just because I was there I wanted to check them out. What you hinted at has happened to me a million of times in WV and many other states. You’re an outsider coming into somewhere where the same 12 assholes are there every night at the bar and they get a “random” customer once a week.
You’d think they’d be kind since you’re dropping some money in their but their backwoods bigotry thinks since you’ve had a shower at least once that week and have all your teeth that you must be an FBI agent or a cop coming to bust up the place.
IMO when they don’t know you - you get the cold shoulder, many places will even give you the cold shoulder even though they know you. Most places like this survive because there probably aren’t a lot of options nearby.
This isn’t just for stripclubs, I’ve seen a lot of businesses treat customers like shit and they get away with it because they supply a product or service that can’t be bought anywhere else nearby.
@ the general discussion
It seems a consensus is that you're picking the wrong clubs. I don't get hassled, nor do I get the FEELING of being hassled, at my regular club, but I can guess that the high-volume high-tourist places in my city (New Orleans) would have that kind of panopticon scrutiny going on (if I went to them; which I don't).
Some places are recently succeeding quite well, I think, though there was a lull in strip club performance during and immediately after the 2020 pandemic period. I hope that what we might be experiencing is a rearrangement in the virtual-versus-physical world's business models, as the economy in while starts to determine that some things just can't be relegated to cyber-experiences. Strip clubbing absolutely could be one of the brick-and-mortar-only business sectors, even though it SEEMS to be threatened by online opportunities (the theory that girls can make more on OnlyFans, f.e.). I think that good strip clubs sell the sense of membership, belonging, and interpersonal opportunity, that PL customers do not experience in regular life. A strip club owner or manager who figures this fact out, and then manages to implement it in all the ways he runs the place, especially in the ways the girls interact with the customers, will probably have a highly regarded club, and I suspect it would not be expensive to implement these sorts of changes, therefore it likely would be very profitable to implement them.
Just a theory. I'm a good customer because I spend. What do I know about running things?