I shouldn't be surprised; but it made me sad...

gothamyte
from that Adam Westsiiiide of Gotham
so, I got a random private DM from a stripper who I ain't heard from in maybe a decade. honestly, i wasn't sure if she was dead or alive--I knew she had health issues and I hadn't seen her around. She DM's me asking for money--a 2-digit amount, so way under $100. Mind you, I haven't spoken or heard from her in about a decade. And even when I did see her at the strip club, back in the day, we weren't super-close or ever talked deeply about anything. I was actually kinda surprised she found me on social media.

of course I initially thought it was a scam, but looks like it wasn't. I didn't send her money. I contacted her family that I could find on social media and alerted them to help her...

All this to say: gosh what a difference a decade makes. Back in the day, she was young, cute, gave great lap dances, I hoped she was making money. 10 years later she's asking for a couple of bucks to help her out. It's crazy to see someone who stripped multiple nights a week, healthy, fall on hard times and now is like broke / penniless.

Would like to see a 10-year project on serious dancers who had a 'solid career' and then a where-are-they-now, 10 years after. Like look at those ladies at the Bunny Ranch on HBO. Where are they now? Are they broke? Which would be a shame.

I know drugs can be a factor and mis-managing of money. Or having kids.

I'd also like to see the johns like us / the mongrels like us / so-called perverts like us in comparison. After 10 years, the johns who heavily visit strip clubs, where-are-they-now?

Why do I feel we johns probably fared way better overall than ladies who have danced at clubs for years. I myself am doing fine today. My money situation is much better now than it was a decade ago. And I still go to clubs. On the other hand, many clubs have since closed. It's sad to see. I shouldn't be surprised. But this makes me mildly sad. Especially that young dancer, to see her on hard times 10 years later--the club she worked at closed like 8 years ago. And hasn't re-opened.

It's just 'wild' to see. Since experiencing this and then going to the club, I feel like whispering to every dancer, "hold on to your money. Please keep thinking about 10 years from now....please put a plan now in motion for yourself"

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gothamyte
9 months ago
on the other hand, 10 years is actually a real long time. like, I had a different day job 10 years ago---where's my money today from my job back then, 10 years ago? spent. lol. so why should this be any different for strippers who stripped 10 years ago, why on earth should they still have any coins from that today?

then again, I could argue, but my job from 10 years ago, I still got a 401K from that and it's still active even thought I dont' work there no more. My 401K still makes roughly about $200 a year very slowly, but i'll take it.

I dunno. the whole picture is so sad because of 'the party atmosphere' too. looking back now, 10 years later, now it's a mirage, kinda fake. but back then, 10 years ago, at the strip club, it's pure youth, lights, shakin' booty, loud music, dry humping lapdances. 10 years later, it's reality, no music, older, health failing, now scrounging for money. nobody's around to help.

hasn't stopped me from going to the strip club last night, tho lol
mike710
9 months ago
While it sounds like you thought you were helping, in your shoes, I wouldn't have ratted her out to family without knowing more than what you seemed to know. To me, confidentiality goes both ways.
ww
9 months ago
^^^ If a chick is asking for help, it shouldn't matter who it comes from. That is, if you truly need the help.

OP, funny you brought this up.

I went picture perving on IG and thought about this chick I used to mess with 10-15 years ago. I knew she was out the game, but was shocked to see her page. Back in the day, this chick stayed getting money, having one of the most curviest bodies on a small frame. I even did OTC with her a few times.

She eventually got "discovered" by Cherokeed'ass and made a few porn videos.

Fast forward today and she battling cancer and was trying to raise money on a gofundme page to help pay medical expenses her insurance won't cover.

Now her body has, expectantly, loss a lot of weight and just a shell of the person she was physically. Sad to see.
dickdecker
9 months ago
How do strippers find ya after 10 years?? I’m trying for them not to find me 10 minutes after I leave the club
ww
9 months ago
Can't speak to now, but I think the last 10-20 years ago, folks were a little more trusting.

Strippers would tell me their real name and give a good contact number (dependent on your clubbing location and type of clubs you frequent). And if you got to know each other, no different than getting to know a civvie. Info can naturally get shared.
docsavage
9 months ago
I know one former stripper who died in an ambulance from a severe asthma attack, one who died from a drug overdose, one who took a stray bullet in the head, one shot by a jealous ex-boyfriend. Girls who enter this profession often come from lower class backgrounds and have the types of problems that class has.

My very favorite regulars do better, though. They were pretty, had very friendly personalities , and usually showed up for work. Qualities like that will help you in any job.
shailynn
9 months ago
My biggest wonder is COVID. For example I knew a couple of strippers in Vegas, in their prime, on top of their game, making a lot of money. Then COVID hit. I wonder how much of a blow it was to some of them, and how many of them came back or move to something else once the dust settled.
Mate27
9 months ago
That sort of financial well being comes with maturity, and the PL customer base being skewed older and more mature will have that where as the younger immature dancer/provider is still developing that. Doing a 10 year comparison really isn’t fair, but it is fun to think about. I wonder more so how the 10 year progression from a freshly retired stripper is doing a decade later? What’s the general path for those? Maybe they got a degree and worked a second profession, after the kids grew up and ledt the house.
gothamyte
9 months ago
BTW, normally I wouldn't approach a stripper's family members but 2 things: I knew she had health issues and I hadn't heard from or seen her in years. When she randomly reached out to me I thought it was a scammer 'making light' of her health status online and trying to trick people under her profile unbeknownst to her. In her social media, her barely adult son is one of her profile friends, so even tho I don't know him, I alerted him like hey I don't know you but I think someone hacked your mom's page. He responded that's actually really her. He responded he also didn't have money to spare her. (He's barely an adult himself) He didn't ask me for money which is good. But he said he'd reach out to help her. There's a recent picture of them together on her page so I figured they get along. Maybe I shoulda just sent the $60 she asked for. But again, I ain't heard or seen her in years. I thought if I give $60 now, this may never stop. She was such a nice person back in the day, but, I dunno. It wasn't like we were close friends...

Dolfan
9 months ago
Many if not most young people making significant money make poor financial decisions. Especially those who came from poorer families. We like to call out strippers as doing that specifically, and that makes sense given the focus of this site but it's not just them. There's probably a ton of customers out there who've spent on strippers as fast as they made it, and are now in dire straits financially. Hell, I think there is some stat out there floating around that says some 75% of NFL players go broke within 2 years of their last game. NBA is something crazy too.

I suppose that doesn't make it any easier to see, but I think telling them to hold on and plan for 10yrs from now is probably not gonna make much difference.

Puddy Tat
9 months ago
A dancer's looks, like an athlete's physical attributes, are a depreciating asset. The smart ones know this and plan for the future. However, a lot of them either don't know how to delay gratification, or once they're making bank, all their "friends" come out of the woodwork looking for a cut. Same reason lottery winners go bankrupt.

The smart ones plan for a career after dancing, whether nursing, real estate, or whatever. I'm out of strip clubbing for a time; perhaps forever, but I love discussing the culture and sociology of it. But when I'm in, I saw them as service providers. Cold, I know, but I wouldn't Cashapp my mechanic an extra $100 because he wasn't good with his money. Why would it be different if the service was T&A?
rattdog
9 months ago
i always wondered why the basics of finance were never taught in the schools starting around the 5-7th grade. basics like budget balancing, how to sign checks, and hell even how to learn to accept change when making store purchases are all vital to know.
Dolfan
9 months ago
I'm guessing Finance basics aren't taught in school for two primary reasons, the first being difficulty in finding qualified teachers. The second being getting people to agree on a curriculum.

The way we politicize and fight over everything, some asshat will claim their rights are being violated because they don't believe in money. And some other SJW will take up their cause to make sure those asshats aren't persecuted for their beliefs. And a third group will insist that it must be taught even though they don't really understand or care, but because they're sick of the SJW's forcing them to be tolerant of shit they really couldn't care less about to begin with. And then some nutbags will determine that there must be some grand conspiracy at work and it's the fat cats in "Big Check Ledger" industry trying to indoctrinate our youth the false idea that we need their products to balance our checkbooks so they can continue to run their child trafficking ring to sacrifice virgins and drink their blood.

I'll start the argument by saying I think 7th grade is two young, you should wait till 10th grade at least. Those defenseless 12yo children can't have their innocence stolen from them with your liberal commie "Financial Literacy" nonsense. Let kids be kids damn it!
PoundKing
9 months ago
OP is on his way to be captain save a hoe
Studme53
9 months ago
^ Lol
Puddy Tat
9 months ago
@Dolfan - makes a lot of sense because according to the wokes, being on time, hard work, discipline, and delayed gratification are "white." Forget that successful individuals in every place possess them.

@Poundking and others - fictitious conversation

Stripper - "I need money to keep my cell phone on!"
PuddyTat - "That sounds like a 'you' problem."
skibum609
9 months ago
In school we learned how to write a letter; answer a phone properly; balance a checkbook; why and how to vote and on and on, today children learn that if they say they are a dog, people will act as if they are a dog.
"....Tired of lying in the sunshine. Staying home to watch it rain. And you are young and life is long; And there is time to kill today. And then one day you find; ten years have got behind you; no one told you when to run. You missed the starting gun." I woke up one day and I was 32. I committed to my wife and work that day because I realized I was out of TIME. I grew up that day, but unlike many I had a serious education and job skill to make up for lost time.
Puddy Tat
9 months ago
@skibum - you'll love this. If you say you're a dog, you'll get animal control called on you.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/202…
Muddy
9 months ago
Yeah some begging for change I say "I ain't got, I ain't got hommie" then under my breath I say Oh yeah I gots, I gots.
Muddy
9 months ago
A guy in Tulsa tried to sell me a Gold chain in the parking lot, then he gave up and said hey how's the girls in there.

Outside of Purple Orchid in Philly we had a get together after action review for those coming out could inform those coming in on what the word is. That was a new one.

Outside of Gold in SF stripper hit me up for OTC before she went on shift.
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