Got the phone number, what to do?

She already got you for a grand and she didn’t have to do much. Some strippers will genuinely offer OTC but more likely she will string you along and just say the right things to get you back into the club to spend more money. “Quick before anyone sees me give you my number” - nobody cares that she’s giving you her number. “I’m in college” - yeah right.

I think that if she ever actually responds to any call/text from you, it will be to encourage you to come into the club to spend another thousand plus dollars.

It's possible that she is an escort, and the club is a front for meeting well heeled out of towners (there's at least a couple of dancers at PT's who do, or did, this type of thing), but I suspect it's more likely that she gave you a Google Voice or other non-carrier phone number that she can screen without it impinging on her "real" life.

There's certainly no harm in texting her the next time you're in that town just to see what she says. Just be prepared for various forms of push back on actually meeting OTC.

When you texted her, hopefully you used your burner or app number. Although OTC has occurred after a number exchange, the "wire me money for rent, electric, etc" messages have happened more. If she starts doing that, cease contact.

@Dougmann100

I will play along and comment on your discussion and will answer some of your questions.

First of all; Pics and Vids of the Argentinian Girl holding her Argentinian passport or it didn’t happen.
:D

Q: I’d be curious from those with OTC experience what they think of this situation?

A: I think that you have a lot of money to burn if you are paying, and I quote you, “$1k for 30 minutes” and only “made out with no extras”.

Q: Would should I expect if I follow through?

A: I think you mean What to expect?.
You should expect to burn more money and don’t get any “extras”.

I guess you want to have sex with this girl although you wrote, and I quote you again; “I flirted a bit and suggested that I take her number so we could have a date the next time I’m in town”

I don’t think you used a “date” as a slang for having sex with a sex worker, but as a having a romantic date with a girl who you find attractive.

If you want to have sex with this girl the next time you see her, invite her to your hotel room for dinner and “dessert” (as in sex after dinner) and ask her what kind of protection (condoms) and lubricants she prefers.

You don’t have to “romance” her more than necessary and just ask her how much for the “dessert” part of the date.

Expect her to ask for $1000 or more for half an hour and clarify if she will be providing GFE or PSE.

Like you said yourself and I quote you again; “I’m in uncharted waters.”

You know what you have to do cowboy; man up and decide what kind of “relationship” you could/should have with her.

I would refer you to Demosthenes (384 – 12 October 322 BC)
~ Greek statesman and orator of ancient Athens.

1. We have courtesans for the sake of pleasure.
2. Concubines for the daily health of our bodies, and
3. Wives to bear us lawful offspring and be the faithful guardians of our homes

In this list is the Greek view of woman in the classic age.

And in all ages and times.

All healthy heterosexual men want that, but only some can afford it...

In today’s world Demosthenes would say:

We have:

1. High end escorts, centerfolds, actresses, models, Strippers (ITC OTC) etc that provide PSE/GFE for the sake of pleasure.
2. Mistresses/Sugar Babies/Concubines; etc, for the daily health of our bodies.
3. Trophy Girlfriends/Wives to bear us lawful offspring, and be the faithful guardians of our homes.
4. Realistic Sex Dolls/Gynoids/Fembots, and Internet Porn and Instagram/Onlyfans “Models”, for kicks-and-giggles”.

Remember

“In this country, you gotta make the money first.

Then when you get the money, you get the power.

Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”

~ Cuban refugee Tony Montana (Al Pacino) in the movie Scarface.

You should have a relationship with her that should provide you with pleasure if that is what YOU WANT.

If you can be a man, have the money and can afford it, buy it and enjoy it, if you don’t have the money or you can’t afford it economically, mentally, morally, emotionally, physically, intellectually etc etc etc then don’t buy things you can’t afford…

And remember Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.

Let’s just be careful out there, and don’t “fall in love” with a stripper or a person that can drag you down.

:D

Remember that the bar has already been in set in 2 aspects:

1 - You paid $1k for the first encounter. That becomes the benchmark for what you will pay.

2 - You didn't get much in return foe $1k, so she will likely expect to collect with minimal effort on her part.

Save your money for a better experience, even it's only another ITC experience.

Sounds an awful lot like Bare Exposure in Atlantic City, with the "let me show you the private room" hustle.

Use a reverse phone number lookup service to see if you find out any information, such as name, address, etc. Most likely you won't find anything, but you never know.

The most likely scenario (assuming she responds at all) is she'll try to have you meet her at the club. She knows you are good for $1K which is much too lucrative pass up for doing no work in a safe environment.

the date will get canceled, she will beckon you back into the club for another $1000 out of pocket.

your wife finds the money missing, you get a divorce.

"What should I expect if I follow through?" Well, you did the following:

1. You paid $1k to make out for a half hour
2. You texted her, that night

You should expect to continue to overpay for very little service (which you did in #1), and expect that she KNOWS she has her hooks in you (which you gave her confirmation of in #2). She does not want to go on a "date". She wants another $1k for the easiest work she's ever done. She is a professional (she works at a high end club). She took you on a "no obligations tour." Yeah, lmao on that one.

Read my lips: she is not special. You are not special to her. You had chemistry, of course. I'm not suggesting what you should do, because you're a grown ass man. But just understand that you OVERPAID, BIG time. There's no shame in it. We've all done it.

The most expensive girls are the best actresses, and the more it costs, the more you will be inclined to believe in the magic, because your ego must justify the cost. They all want our money. But by dropping a G, for that, you've taught her that you will spend a lot of money for nothing.

I join those who feel that given that you paid an enormous amount of money for little time and even less mileage, there might be a bar set here that you can't recover from. But we don't know that for sure until you try. You might invite her to meet me OTC (you had "great chemistry" after all!), a great dinner, drinks, and a nice hotel room. If I were you I would make the first offer -- e.g., if you feel $500 (or $700, or $1000, or whatever) is fair for that, get your number out there first. If she says no or invites you back to the club, you can either consider whether the $1000/30m deal is really something you want to continue doing; if it is, great, if not, move on.

Eh, I was going to add my two cents, but instead I'll just echo what everyone else has said. She has dollar signs in her eyes.

Unless you can afford to spend big like that regularly and feel like you got a good deal, the thing for you to do with that number is throw it away. You're not ready to deal with a stripper at this level.

Thanks for all the advice. If I make it back to town, I’ll likely reach out to her. Definitely won’t be going back to the club, it was a rip. I’m sure the club took half of the money.

"If I were you I would make the first offer -- e.g., if you feel $500 (or $700, or $1000, or whatever) is fair for that, get your number out there first."

Unless he's lucky or just that suave, I don't think he gets her OTC for less than $1000. She got that already for light work and knows he's not likely to be a frequent repeater.

Girls are like chocolate chip cookies, they are wonderful but fleeting and one should not live for chocolate chip cookies, but rather just enjoy them when the opportunity arises.

A woman can get sec anytime she wants, so when a woman shows a little affection to a man it moves him, but she does not feel it the same.

Every straight man should bang AMP girls until sex becomes a mundanity. Then his foolish behavior will become evident to him.

^ You sure spent a lot of money on a chocolate chip cookie!

@Dougmann100

“Hay que eliminar los intermediarios innecesarios en la cadena de valor que hacen que los precios se incrementen…”

~ Daniel Salomón
~ Born in Argentina
~ Attended Harvard Business School

Yes, “the club” takes a large percentage and she has to tip a bunch of people, so maybe she got half of the $1000.00

What has worked for me, for good OTC, is to build a trusting relationship with a girl, make sure she knows I am a respectful reliable gentleman, safe, clean, discreet, and fun, funny. (Think Edward (Richard Gere) from the movie Pretty Woman).

My All Time Favorite Stripper, Ally, started dancing when I was going to see a Current Favorite Ariel, who didn’t do OTC.

Ally was just over 20 years, sweet, beautiful and shy. She became friendly and would seat with me while I was waiting for my, at that time, Current Favorite Ariel, she, Ally, would let me know if Ariel was not there, would tell the waitresses to let Ariel know I have arrived.

Once Ally was tired and fell asleep on my shoulder and thanked me for letting her sleep and rest.

One time when Ariel didn’t show up I asked Ally to go with me to the 15 minute VIP, she was so sweet and excited.

We had to wait for a “room” and she sat in my lap and we made out like teenagers. Once in the VIP we went as close as humanly possible to Full Service but didn’t do FS.

After the VIP I asked Ally if she would be interested in OTC (“would you be interested in meeting outside the club, we can have a better, more comfortable experience, and you don’t have to share money with the club?”) and gave her my number, but she said she didn’t do that.

I keep going to visit Ariel and she didn’t show up another time and I took Ally to the VIP again, and again we were so close to FS, but we didn’t have FS, however she was so nice, excited, shy and cute.

I was still visiting Ariel, on the weekends, when Ally texted me on the middle of the week to ask me if I was still interested on OTC with her, I answer of course I am.

We made an appointment, I went to pick her up near her place and we went to a small hotel and had a very nice GFE type of “date”. Ally was a sweet and nice Baby Stripper.

Ally and I developed a Sugar Baby type of relationship we had OTC almost every week for more than two years.

I would pick her up on Sunday afternoon, get a nice hotel room and make love, massage each other, have room service, sometimes we would go to dinner to a nice fancy place, she always looked like a beautiful classy lady.

She would refer to me as her fiancé to other people, her sister told me.

I have thousands of pictures of her modeling cute sexy outfits I got for her. Around Halloween she was slave princesses Leia from Star Wars, Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader, Playboy Bunny. Around Christmas a sexy miss Santa, naughty school girl.

Like I said Ally was a baby stripper when we meet, very sweet and nice, the sex got better and better because she was more comfortable and felt safe relaxed and was able to let herself go and enjoy it, I enjoyed it too, she would experience multiple orgasms and was very shy and sweet about it.

Sometimes she would spend the night and would fall a sleep with her head on my chest like the little angel she was.

She texted me one last time letting me know she was moving on and thanking me for the relationship...

Thank you for making me remember the Good Times with my ATF (All Time Favorite).

She was worth every penny and every second I spent with her.

Like I said, it is up to you to decide how much time, money and eff

effort to make the situation better for the two people involved.

I think a win win situation is the best so the two of you can sincerely say to each other: “It is a pleasure doing business with you”

Remember: “A la Mujer, ni Todo el Amor, ni Todo el Dinero…”

Let’s just be careful out there.

And also remember Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.

:D

Good cynical advice from everyone, but we don’t know what this guy looks like and 40’s is still in range for a hookup. I’d say the OP is on the right track. Give it a shot, don’t presume anything and be wary if it looks like it’s going to cost too much to get too little. Small chance, but maybe you’re surprised with the results. Doesn’t cost anything to take a shot.

Thanks Hank, I like your thinking.

I know I overpaid and realize for much less you can get a hooker (though that doesn’t interest me much, no offense to anyone). I wouldn’t normally drop that much on VIP - which I’ve only done 3-4x before and mostly with unimpressive results - but this girl was different. I go to clubs maybe 1x per month and she was in the top 3 hottest girls I’ve seen in a long while, hence the impulse purchase.

I appreciate all the insights from the experienced VIPers.

I’ll give it a shot and see where things go the next time I’m in the area. No balls, no babies.

Call her and ask what her price is for etc. If her price is ok with you go for it

We don't know her, so specific advice would be ignorant advice. Just follow the good general rule for life: don't trust too much too quickly. That will probably keep any losses small. And rule #2 is, realize that, if you panty bunch over small losses, that will lead to large losses due to forgone opportunities.