Alternative city?

Most certainly San Diego. Nice weather, beaches, close to LA if you want to take a day trip..overall a great city with lots of great scenery and plenty to do/see. There are also casinos near San Diego, but certainly not of Vegas size/quantity.

Other cities (except NY and San Francisco) are not really 7-day destinations. San Francisco has been on a downward spiral for awhile, so while I haven't been to SF in years, if one believes news reports, the city is a mess.

NY has plenty to see/do, but it may be to similar to London in certain respects (big city). When I vacation, I like to experience an environment other than where I live.

Phoenix is interesting for the unique desert environment, and you could also take a 2-day detour to Grand Canyon. I'm not sure Phoenix is a 7-day destination, though. For clubbing, Tijuana is next door, and you should be okay if you take Hong Limo. Just check UK tourist requirement for Mexico. San Diego clubs are just "okay"...nothing memorable.

Savannah is a 2-3 max destination.

Plug for Phoenix being it has several clubs to hit with hot women, warm (hot) weather, and close enough for you to drive to Vegas/San Diego. Plenty of touristy things to do, mountains nearby to escape, and so many casinos providing gambling choices to boot.

Good points, mate; clubbing is certainly better in Phoenix than San Diego. So, if gambling and women are your top points, I change my vote to Phoenix.

On the other hand, Florida and Atlanta may have the upper hand for clubs.

In June, Phoenix clubs have fewer dancers. They go somewhere, I know not where.

Phoenix has 2 noteworthy clubs, as does Tucson. If you split your time between Phoenix, Tucson, and Vegas you could fill 7 days with strippers, gambling, and heat. And, Mexican food.

Since gambling is important to you, I'd suggest Miami. Florida is "the Sunshine State". It will be warm, humid in June with afternoon thunderstorm likely. There are many strip clubs within a reasonable distance. A little pricy but not as bad as Vegas but with higher mileage. Knowledge of Spanish would ne helpful. Plenty of tourist attractions and warm ocean water. More attractions in Orlando for an overnight trip. Miami also has 10 casinos. https://www.holidify.com/pages/casinos-i….

Florida, both south (Miami) and central (Orlando) will be hot as fuck in June. Not warm, hot. In Orlando afternoon storms are a near certainty in June, highly likely in Miami. But all day rain is relatively rare. I don't really hit the casinos much, so I can't comment on that part. But we do have strip clubs in south Florida, of all sorts. Orlando not so much though. Miami has tourist attractions as well, no theme parks like Orlando but certainly options.

Going back to strip clubs, girls being hot is subjective. We've got thicker Latina's by the truckload in most of our clubs. If that's your bag of tea, I'm sure you'll find em. If you're looking for any other race/ethnicity, including natives, you're gonna find slimmer pickings. There are some slimmer Latina's in the mix too.

I'm not advocating for or against either part of Florida, really just wanted to clarify the weather piece. It's hot, likely low 90's with feels like temps close to 100. And over a 8 day stretch in early June you'll likely see 5+ days with afternoon showers around ~90 mins in length. It's unlikely, though certainly possible, that an entire day would get rained out though. If I you do pick here, you could stay at Hard Rock and hit up the attractions down in Miami and the strip clubs up in Pompano.

You’re going to think I’m nuts but I’d throw Detroit into the mix. There are plenty of casinos and great strip clubs. If that’s mainly what you want to do - strip clubs and casinos then this would be a good option, if you want to do other stuff too then eh well there are better options.

Did you ever consider Toronto or Montreal? Montreal has casinos, poker rooms, strip clubs, and excellent escort scene and spas. Toronto does as well. If you’re in Toronto you can travel aprox an hour south to Niagara Falls for some tourist trap type stuff. If you’d consider Toronto stay out by the airport instead of downtown (that’s where most of the strip clubs and spas are).

If any of these are interest to you reach out to me and I can give you websites and direction that may help your decision. Longball300 is still lurking around, he would be a good person to consult with to doing things other than clubbing and casinoing in Detroit. Is “casinoing” a real word? It is today.

If it were me and I could choose anywhere in North America (other than Vegas) where my main focus was casinos and strip clubs i would choose:

1. Toronto
2. Montreal
3. Detroit
4. Phoenix

Ask me tomorrow and I may bout Montreal on top of Toronto but Toronto people are nicer and Toronto is easier to get around with a rental car.

The best tourist city on your list is New Orleans. Food is incredible, bars are very fun and there’s a pretty decent casino right jn the heart of the French quarter where all the action is. Clubs aren’t the best for mileage but they are there. If you have a week, I’d suggest time in New Orleans and then a short flight to Dallas or Houston for the ultra high mileage strip clubs.

Personally, I love Chicago in the summer. Tons to do and see, plus they have nice sand beaches on clean, swim-able Lake Michigan right in the middle of the City. I found it to be a clean, well run city with great architecture and public transportation. Strip club scene is a zero though.

My choice from a strip club and sunshine viewpoint would be Phoenix, if you include Tucson for a day or two, which is a better strip club city than Phoenix. I don’t gamble, so I can’t comment on that, but there are casinos there, some which appear to be rather elaborate. Between Tucson and Phoenix, there are lots of tourist attractions, and, if you want a taste of winter, Flagstaff is only two hours north.

I don’t recommend San Diego, even though it has sunshine and tourist attractions. The strip club scene is pretty bland and subject to oppressive city regulations. Tijuana is not far away and has strip clubs that are essentially brothels. Crossing the border can be straight forward or a hassle depending on a lot of factors, few of which you have control of.

New York, Washington DC, Boston, Chicago, and Seattle are not what one calls sunshine cities. Neither is San Francisco, even in the summer, and clubbing is expensive. New York strip clubs are expensive; Washington and Boston strip clubs are bland. New Orleans is expensive and the strip clubs, and like much of the city, promise more than they can deliver.

Atlanta can be a good strip club city, but one needs to pick and choose the club carefully. If you like Black dancers it is probably one of the best destinations of those you list.

I have not been to Savannah, so I can’t comment on that city.

Orlando, at least the touristy part, is not a strip club destination. Cocoa Beach, not far away is pretty good though, but I think there only two clubs there.

Dallas is not bad strip club wise and there are lots of options. It can be wet and cold in the winter though and I can’t think of any great tourist attractions.

There are others on the list that should chime in; Shadowcat knows the southern clubs probably better than anyone.

Miami and South Florida are pretty hot in June, but so is Vegas, there’s plenty of indoor stuff to do in Vegas Arizona and the desert is hot as fuck in June too, my choice would me Miami because if you stay at the right place the beach is great, there’s plenty of great food and plenty of nightlife, and there’s plenty of casino action, as well but the gambling while not terrible is nothing like Vegas, someone mentioned Detroit, that is a pretty good summer destination the weather will be better

You stated that guaranteed sunshine was a prerequisite for your choice of destination. Those that have never lived in San Diego wouldn't know this, but May and June can be quite gloomy in San Diego. The locals call it May Grey and June Gloom.

This happens because the desert outside of SD starts to heat up while the ocean has not reached it's summer temperature. Inland, the hot air rises and sucks coastal fog well inland in the SD metro area. This persistent gloom can last for weeks at a time in bad years. Not that it's cold, it's just gloomy and grey all day with temps in the 60's and low 70's.

As others have said, there is adult fun to be had not too far from San Diego but the local club scene is one of the worst in the US.

Miami for SURE. (FS / 9s &10s possible with Latinas - if you know Spanish, thats a +). AA clubs are also there, including lower cost offerings at Pompano Beach. Casinos: Yes
Detroit, I don't know about FS club scene, but I was told it is good - has good casinos.

I was told Canada is AMAZING - FS / more options and casinos.... Haven't been there - so heresay, but multiple reliable reports about Canada.
Good luck

Chicago. Wonderful city, food is awesome, but run by commie assholes and gets more dangerous by the day. Only NYC and Chicago have that big city feel in America. Strip clubs in Chicagoland the only one I like is Polekatz and that is a low mileage spot. Maybe Gold and Scores in Stone park are alright. June is a great time to go to Chicago, right now? Hell to the no. Fucking cold as all fuck. I've heard some good things about the Gary area but I haven't been yet. Milwaukees also is very close but I can't recommend Milwaukee clubs to be honest.

Phoenix. More of a suburb than a city but a very nice one. I love the desert but most tourist you do is in the nature around Phoenix and in June it might be rough with heat during the day. I like Phoenix strip clubs.

Dallas. Same with Phoenix and Atlanta Idk if it's a place that's a must visit tourist spot in America, along with Atlanta and Phoenix it's more places to live. I actually keep going back to DFW because my favorite all time OTC ever is there, and I just can't get enough. The strip clubs have what you want like The Lodge. Gorgeous women who are available but you'll have to pay for it. Around 1K. Dallas area has the nicest strip clubs in country from a physical building standpoint IMO.

Atlanta. Way more guys can tell you about Atlanta than me on here. Seems like V Live is really popular though, I've yet to check it out. Tattletales seems like might good a spot to hit, pretty girls you bang you gotta pay top dollar for it, I'd like to go at night one of these days, I went day last time. Tourist stuff I'm not sure you have a week of stuff there. If you like black strippers Atlanta is seen as the Mecca.

Boston. I love Boston, tons of history, tons of tourist stuff. Boston strip clubs suck in the city but Mass strip clubs aren't as bad as folks make it out to be. You could shoot down to Providence about an hour away and get the Desire experience. Plenty of dudes know about all that way more then me but I will say do not go weekend nights, I've tried that, it's a disaster, way too packed.

NYC. Size and scale wise it's just on a whole other level. So much stuff to explore. Casino if you wanted could shoot down to Atlantic City I know a lot guys that do, it's sort of second to Vegas in America for gambling. As far as NYC strip clubs, the city stuff I'm not into. Manhattan is fun because dudes it's Manhattan, it's just fun to walk club to club drunk meeting all crazy people. You can actually fuck some of those girls in those clubs. Rosewood is a good example but your gonna be paying out the ass to be able to do it. Around 1K and they will probably want a big tip. Just not worth it, can't recommend it unless your a high flying dude. Jersey has very high mileage scene though. I would direct you out there. I like a club a lot called called Centerfolds on the Jersey shore. Sometimes a gem or two in there and you can hook up with them. Also Philadelphia is a very close city to New York City so if you wanted to hit anything there, it's totally doable.

Orlando clubs ain't that good. But you could just drive to Tampa, it's like an hour away. So many options with the strip clubs.

San Francisco. It really is our best looking city. Hands down. It's not even close. If you haven't been I would check out. The people who run the city are beyond stupid but then again you could say that about most of these destinations but SF is next level in that department. Strip clubs general rule there is if they aren't serving alcohol nobody cares what goes on. Deja Vu Centerfolds I've had good luck at. Certain days they have deals. I think monday was bed VIP for 150 minutes. I mean the girls I was fucking there were so god damn hot. A lot of girls that work in SF don't live there, they can't afford it, they stay in nearby hotels, so they'll be down for OTC especially if they ain't making any money. Happened a few times for me.

Seattle. Great time to go in the summer. The Pacific northwest is incredible. The strip clubs, you know what I've been to Pandora's on a friday night. I just didn't see anything I wanted extras from but I guess they are available. Another one is Kittens. High mileage spot super aggressive strippers. There was a door vulture tag team I wanted to bang one of them but I couldn't break up the team.

San Diego. Honestly Londonguy, this would be my pick. There's just nothing like southern California. Just just driving around during those sunsets is awesome, hit the beach, your all set. Forget San Diego strip clubs, they aren't awful clubs but go north to LA it's about an hour (also TJ down south) but LA to me is my favorite place to do this hobby. It's so much fun. The girls are so slutty and as long you bring money you'll be set. You'll realize this when you got some girl that looks like Gwen Stefani is sucking your dick. Bare Elegance is high end, high mileage. Tons of places though, even the Hollywood clubs doesn't matter it's a completely Godless city and these girls just want your money. They won't love you, but they will let you fuck them.

New Orleans. Cool city, very unique not a big place though. Pretty dangerous. Strip clubs are touristy trappy last I went. It's not a week thing imo. It's a weekend type thing.

Savannah. Same as New Orleans really except even smaller. It's a cool little city but unless you trip maybe to Charleston and Myrtle beach your gonna run out of things to do quick. Strip clubs I hit, there's one called Emperors seems like a high mileage cuban girl joint. There aren't many though. Really nice city atheistically though, they got those oak trees with spanish moss. Looks great. https://innonwestliberty.com/wp-content/… At the end of the day, it's too small for a week thing.

DC. Certainly some tourist stuff in the city to keep you occupied but much smaller than NYC, Chicago, LA. Getting pretty ghetto over there. Strip clubs are not worth it in DC.

Not on your list but I echo shailynn.

Detroit I guess would be a good tourist spot from sort of morbid fascination standpoint. I've actually done that with my Dad before a tigers game. Just driving through the ghetto/abandoned factories. Strip clubs are awesome. The more shitty places I hit, the more I appreciate how fucking awesome Detroit strip clubs are. Flight Club, Landing Strip, BT's. Holy triangle. This one girl out of BT's was so fucking hot I kept OTCing for only $300 a pop. She was like a true 9. I kept driving by Detroit just get some that deal every time. Not possible in New York City. That girl is easily double, hell even maybe triple that in NYC.

Toronto area strip clubs and massage spots on this site is so underrated as a mongering destination. You can find hot girls with high mileage.

Muddys been everywhere and be comes back to my recommendations - that says something, as he knows.

I can’t say much more than what Muddys said but Detroit is fascinating in a weird way. I’ve been all over the rust belt part of America and it’s all blah but Detroit is just intriguing. It’s depressing and fascinating at the same time. The people are decent. I wouldn’t call them overly friendly but they definitely are not rude. There’s a great food scene there too, and it’s fun to drive around. I always joked Detroit got a good deal on concrete because everywhere they needed a road they decided to build 3 roads going to the same place. The only cities more confusing to drive in than Detroit in North America are Pittsburgh and Montreal.

Back to the main goal - lots of gambling spots (tons of cheap poker rooms) and decent casinos and great strip cluvs with private rooms where anything goes. ANYTHING! And good looking dancers and decent prices.

For me - I go to Detroit for convenience but my favorites are Toronto and Montreal.

Londonguy, thanks for the question, as I like to hear about other places as well. I’m from Detroit, so I echo shailynn’s comments. Fantastic mongering scene - great pussy and relative value. In June, the weather is nice, and if you golf, there are many courses near the airport and the strip clubs! But I concur for tourist purposes, there’s not alot but a couple of great museums.

As a Londonguy, are you familiar with the AMPs (Asian massage parlors)? Orlando reported has a great AMP reputation, as do many places in Florida.

Londonguy, forgot to mention, I just got back from New Orleans. Great, historical city. Very walkable. Will be very hot and muggy in June. Strip clubs there suck for extras, really a long weekend of debauchery more than anything.

Thank you so much for your posts, I really appreciate them all.

@ DrStab, yes, but it’s not my thing now. Thanks anyway.


I have to say Detroit really appeals it’s just a shame Virgin Atlantic do not fly there, hence the restrictions.

Thanks again, you’re a great bunch of guys.

Toronto is a great one. Tons to do, adult entertainment galore under more relaxed Canadian laws, and not going to be horrible in the summer.

Anywhere in the south will feel like a steam bath in June.

Never done TJ but SoCal is great any time of year. CoI a little north as well.

I'm glad someone else mentioned June Gloom in San Diego. Our October weather is beautiful. June is just ok and honestly a lot of the country is better in May and June (unless you're trying to escape Arizona heat)

In early June, I agree with Muddy’s comment about NYC/NJ/Atlantic City being a top choice for you. Enjoyed some of the best times of my life in that area.

how come nobody mentioned salt Lake City? there is some scenery around there...