I always see stories on here about dancers getting one over on customers in one way or another but have you or someone you know ever gotten one over on a dancer?
Not sure what is considered "getting one over" on a dancer?
There have been plenty of times where I wasn't 100% sure of the number of dances we've done, but I may "feel" we did x amount and pay that, which may be possibly shorting her a song or 3.
But even then, that only occurs when I've gotten a LOT of dances, so she is still getting a good amount for her services.
Plus, for some clubs I go to, songs sometimes run fast, so it's still seems fair to me.
I do recall a time where a dancer was really upset with the amount I gave her - in this case we only danced like 2 or 3 songs, so no way for me to lose count, but she claimed I owed her basically double what I paid.
In this case, she's actually trying to get over on me. I tell her go get the manager. She runs off and then I beeline straight out the door before she can return!
I didn't get over on her per se - I paid what she was supposed to get. But she didn't see it that way.
I don't try to get one over on anyone that I do business with let alone beautiful young women that are making me happy.
Closest I've ever come was a dancer who I had gotten dances and done vip with on several occasions and always tipped until the last time I got dances from her. The dances were very subpar so I ended things after just 3 dances and gave her $60 for the 3 $20 dances and she got upset and said she expected a tip from me like every other time. I told her that the difference was that all of the other times she was flirtatious, paid attention to me the whole time, gave a good grind and good two way contact and this time it was half air dances with her talking to the dancer in the next booth the whole time. She told me I was trying to short her on what was do to her and pulled a bouncer over saying I owed her money. I explained that if anything the $60 was more than she deserved based on her subpar effort but since I stayed for 3 songs hoping that it would get to the point it had been in the past I was paying for the three songs but no way in hell I would tip. Bouncer agreed and said "he paid his $60" and walked away. Needless to say it was the last time she got a dime from me.
I briefly "got over" on an escort. Left without paying. I was her regular, so I think she assumed I must have put the $ down somewhere. But, fortunately, when I got to the bottom floor, I realized I forgot to pay, and went back up. I thought she was going to be mad as hell, but she was totally nice about it. On the other hand, the last time I saw her, she didn't warn me beforehand she wasn't doing BBBJ anymore, because she was pregnant. So I guess ultimately she was the one who got over.
A couple of my fav escorts would let me go way over the one hour, without asking for more $. A couple dancers gave me an occasional free song, because I was a good regular. But, I don't think that's what the OP means.
I told a stripper in Vegas I was planning to move there. I meant it at the time, but it ended up not happening. Took a good while for her to give up on staying in touch with me. She was a black Cuban, few strippers that have to hustle harder.
In principle, it would be OK to scam a scammy stripper. But, it would be hard to succeed, they're on guard for it. It's the non-scammy PLs and strippers who get scammed. One of my favs got scammed a lot on OTC. She was one to make it clear what she would and would not do beforehand. But multiple PLs shorted her cause no fucking, even when she had said it wasn't happening.
In all honesty, Yes - when I was younger - not proud of it, but yes I have. Granted, I don’t feel that bad because she probably finessed a great deal of guys as well.
Years ago on a slow Sunday evening, Montreal stripper who was dancing in the Massachusetts strip club who I knew well because I would book her for bachelor parties and she was on stage I would tip her she would thank me put the money down I would blow it to the other side of the stage go sit over there Take the same dollar and tip her again. I did this over and over for the entire song.
I can't imagine anyone wanting to do that. Even if some of these girls are egregious hustlers or worse, we are not equally situated. What kind of older, affluent and...perhaps most important...fully dressed guy would ever feel ok with "getting over" on a younger girl who wants/needs the money so much that she's willing to take her clothes off and more for it?
I really don't get it. Of course whenever a stripper has "gotten over" on me, it's inevitably been for a relative nominal sum of money because I enter into these situations with a degree of self control. Perhaps the type of guy who is weak enough to let a girl deep into his wallet with nothing to show for it is the same type who also feels justified in playing games like this. Again though idk because I'm not one of those pussies. 😉
I briefly popped into a club in Montreal. Classic Quebec Meti or Latina beauty came on stage for a three song set. First two were topless. In spite of her being a complete knock out, no one was watching her but me. On the third song, her bottoms came off, and everyone started staring at her crotch so hard, I thought it would burst into flames. There isn't much stage tipping in Canada, because the smallest bill is a $5. But it was so ew ew ew creepy, I tipped her a $5 because I felt bad for her. So, I guess being a Montreal stripper is a hard gig in general.
Do you consider it "getting one over" if you convince her to provide more mileage or charge less than she normally does for a service, or is that just smart negotiation?
On of my favs had a regular who would regularly spend hundreds on dances with her. But he had psychological issues. She constantly had to talk him down from thinking they were in a relationship. Sketchy dancers in the same club would temp him away by saying they'd be his girlfriend. But he'd come back to my fav when he realized they were lying. One night, he got hundreds worth of dances, and then said he didn't have any money. She went to the ATM with him, but his bank kept declining his withdrawals. She called over the manager. The guy pulled out a knife, but then he cut himself with it, a made major bloodstains on the carpet. The manager told him to leave and never come back. But, eventually, he started sneaking back in, and she got tired pointing it out, that he was being let in without paying her what he owed her.
I’m not proud if this, but I have occasionally wasted a dancer’s time with the implied expectation of spending big $$$ in VIP, and after hanging out for awhile get up and leave the club. This might not be “getting over”, but it’s a shitty thing to do.
I would add anyone wearing a suit to the club that is not coming from a job where a suit is needed without spending big to back it up counts too. Dancers think suits mean money and we know this.
When I was young, poor and stupid, my second time at a strip club, I thought that if a dancer kept dancing after the first song, that meant I was getting a freebie. After 3 songs, she asks if I want any more, and I tell her no, I only have $25 and left my ATM/CC in the car. She informed me it was actually $25 a song. I apologized but nothing anyone could do. Never saw her again.
"Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain." - Schiller
If a dancer tries to lure you to vip with all sorts of vague "promises," and won't offer specifics until after you part with your cash, you SHOULD do is play along, pretend you're interested, make her spend some time, and then say "it's been real, time to go." Leave her fuming because you didn't fall for it. Maybe that will teach her a lesson. Don't waste my time and I won't waste yours.
If I think a dancer is trying to run some sort of hustle / scam on me, I get get rid of her ASAP. I go to a strip club club to have fun with dancers ultimately in the form of physical contact of the sexy fun time variety.
If I waste the time of someone who won't give me what I want, then I'm also wasting my time. Selfishly, I think my time is more valuable than anyone else's in the club. I suspect I'm not the only one who thinks this.
So, "getting one over" on the dancer from my point of view seems a lot more like collateral damage that the PL inflicts on himself.
I'll also point out that if you're a regular in a regulars club, then "getting one over" on dancers is a great way to put yourself in the market for a different club.
This one didn't happen to me, but I swear I saw it: A guy was in the lap dance area getting what appeared to be a long series of dances when a solid looking woman charged into the club. She elbowed the bouncer out of the way (made it look easy), found the guy, and started berating him, I think in Portuguese. She yanked him up by the shirt and marched him out the door, stiffing the dancer about $150.
I assume it wasn't an intentional scam, but it crossed my mind that with a good accomplice it would almost always work. You would have to limit it to once per club, since people tend to remember that sort of thing.
So the bouncer can't stop a wife and the husband she manhandles (womanhandles?) from leaving before the dancer get's paid? Sounds like they need a new bouncer.
===> "If I waste the time of someone who won't give me what I want, then I'm also wasting my time. Selfishly, I think my time is more valuable than anyone else's in the club. I suspect I'm not the only one who thinks this."
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There have been plenty of times where I wasn't 100% sure of the number of dances we've done, but I may "feel" we did x amount and pay that, which may be possibly shorting her a song or 3.
But even then, that only occurs when I've gotten a LOT of dances, so she is still getting a good amount for her services.
Plus, for some clubs I go to, songs sometimes run fast, so it's still seems fair to me.
I do recall a time where a dancer was really upset with the amount I gave her - in this case we only danced like 2 or 3 songs, so no way for me to lose count, but she claimed I owed her basically double what I paid.
In this case, she's actually trying to get over on me. I tell her go get the manager. She runs off and then I beeline straight out the door before she can return!
I didn't get over on her per se - I paid what she was supposed to get. But she didn't see it that way.
Judging by all the answers I would sat all customers are great people and only dancers are capable of doing wrong =)
Datinman prolly not but if that actually happened I might count it
Closest I've ever come was a dancer who I had gotten dances and done vip with on several occasions and always tipped until the last time I got dances from her. The dances were very subpar so I ended things after just 3 dances and gave her $60 for the 3 $20 dances and she got upset and said she expected a tip from me like every other time. I told her that the difference was that all of the other times she was flirtatious, paid attention to me the whole time, gave a good grind and good two way contact and this time it was half air dances with her talking to the dancer in the next booth the whole time. She told me I was trying to short her on what was do to her and pulled a bouncer over saying I owed her money. I explained that if anything the $60 was more than she deserved based on her subpar effort but since I stayed for 3 songs hoping that it would get to the point it had been in the past I was paying for the three songs but no way in hell I would tip. Bouncer agreed and said "he paid his $60" and walked away. Needless to say it was the last time she got a dime from me.
A couple of my fav escorts would let me go way over the one hour, without asking for more $. A couple dancers gave me an occasional free song, because I was a good regular. But, I don't think that's what the OP means.
I told a stripper in Vegas I was planning to move there. I meant it at the time, but it ended up not happening. Took a good while for her to give up on staying in touch with me. She was a black Cuban, few strippers that have to hustle harder.
In principle, it would be OK to scam a scammy stripper. But, it would be hard to succeed, they're on guard for it. It's the non-scammy PLs and strippers who get scammed. One of my favs got scammed a lot on OTC. She was one to make it clear what she would and would not do beforehand. But multiple PLs shorted her cause no fucking, even when she had said it wasn't happening.
I really don't get it. Of course whenever a stripper has "gotten over" on me, it's inevitably been for a relative nominal sum of money because I enter into these situations with a degree of self control. Perhaps the type of guy who is weak enough to let a girl deep into his wallet with nothing to show for it is the same type who also feels justified in playing games like this. Again though idk because I'm not one of those pussies. 😉
....But that was a long time ago.
I got over on many bitches on hos.
In different area codes
I'd be lying if I said there wasn't any violence. Bitch slaps a plenty. I regret those days. And those days will be forever with me.
Deep down though, I was always just a phony. Hiding behind a purple suit. Pimp cane. And big top hat. But pimpin' was never easy.
I would add anyone wearing a suit to the club that is not coming from a job where a suit is needed without spending big to back it up counts too. Dancers think suits mean money and we know this.
"Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain." - Schiller
Why waste time doing all that when I could be getting some *good* service from someone else?
If I waste the time of someone who won't give me what I want, then I'm also wasting my time. Selfishly, I think my time is more valuable than anyone else's in the club. I suspect I'm not the only one who thinks this.
So, "getting one over" on the dancer from my point of view seems a lot more like collateral damage that the PL inflicts on himself.
I'll also point out that if you're a regular in a regulars club, then "getting one over" on dancers is a great way to put yourself in the market for a different club.
I assume it wasn't an intentional scam, but it crossed my mind that with a good accomplice it would almost always work. You would have to limit it to once per club, since people tend to remember that sort of thing.
Perfectly said. +1,000.