Why don't illegal immigrants strip?
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Keep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
This seems like a question of particular interest to Trumpers. If the US can keep out illegal strippers without an expensive new wall/fence, why is it needed to keep out other workers?
(Not putting this in Potlical Discourse, since some people may have relevant information, but not care about the political aspects of the topic.)
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I also imagine some clubs would shy away from hiring illegal immigrants for one major reason. It would be easy for them to be accused of human trafficking if they are found to be employing illegal immigrants as sex workers even if it is a completely clean non-extras club. Being accused of human trafficking is a death knell for any business.
Let’s see some evidence of that. I think the opposite is more likely true
That being said, there are clubs (def in Texas) that look the other way on that—especially the divier ones that fill their roster almost all Cuban.
Corporations are required to issue a 1099 for payments over a fairly small amount they aren’t interested in who is legally allowed employment in the US they’re only interested in compliance with the regulations that apply to them (the corporation)
@nice from what I've heard/read, illegal immigrants can get a fake social security card pretty easily. Which is part of my point, seems like it would be cheaper to stop that kind of crap, than build the Great Wall of Trump.
At one time, the Coast Guard would pick up Cuban balseros and bring them to Florida. But, after the Mariel Boat Lift, I think they started forcing them to go back to Cuba. But, until recently, if the Cuban sneak in, they can get legalized. Many Cuban strippers have told me they came via Mexico. I think I read that Biden made some change to stop this. They have to apply to come at the US Embassy in Havana first, if they want to be legal.
Now, AMPs on the other hand, major trafficking operation, and I frankly don't understand why more aren't busted locally. I can only assume the vig is massive.
WTF does this have to do with "Trumpers"? To clarify: NO ILLEGALS regardless of what they want to do, victimize, traffic, scam, push drugs, get welfare, live on Taxpayers' Dime, or squat. What's wrong with controlling borders, knowing who us entering and how they can benefit America?
Yeah, I know I was just baited.
And I will straight up say that I side eye clubs that only have Cuban dancers. Clubs that are mixed and have a lot of Cubans and they are half the lineup? I’m not referring to those places. But who knows, maybe the managers really do relate to the girls better and aren’t just only hiring one type just because they are less likely to argue back against bs.
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I could take you to some factories that employee virtually 99% illegals - and every single one of them have a social security card. Means nothing
the best thing would be to improve the work situations in Mexico.
It’s just smoke and mirrors people.
There are a lot of illegals here who can pass e-verify. Its often as simple as sharing an ID. Sure, they get caught eventually. But that's 3, 5, or more years down the road. The one who gave out their ID to be shared is rarely prosecuted, since they play the victim of identity theft. And the ones who used it are difficult to identify and generally not worth the hassle.
what is it costing overall?...
from what I'm seeing in my limited 73 years of Southwest living, what the hell? let them come across! and make them legal citizens! and tax paying citizens! after all, if you look in the past history, the entire Southwest was Mexico and Spain to begin with!!!!!
There are only two states where employee treatment of dancers is mandatory. Also there are plenty of areas throughout the country without licensing requirements. In places with neither, the only thing that many strippers need is a valid government issued ID for proof of age, for which an Ecuadorian passport works just as well as a DL.
When a club decides to require legal status despite a lack of these local requirements, it's most often because they've put in place cash controls and payout structures which require them to issue 1099s. Examples include clubs which split room charges with dancers and require customers to pay the whole thing to the club upfront. A lot of the Manhattan clubs are like this.
We need a border control system that's designed based on cost effectiveness, and maximizing US wages. No major party is really pressing for this. The status quo is exactly what corporatist Republicans and Democrats want. Trump/De Santis/Abbott are only interested in demagoguing about the issue, not really solving it.
I guess you didn't read what I just posted before you typed this.
Keep the bird feeders full and the birds will continue to come.
These people are coming here globally. The Left is doing this to change voting demographics for power and control. Mexico won't do shit to stop it. Nor will the WH as the "Border Is Closed"; good think they don't run Tiffany's.
If you won't or can't understand the long term peril, this is a real existential threat not "climate change", this country faces, I feel really sad for you. I spelled out what is happening, and all the Leftists & (majority, not all) GenZ'ers can say is "RACISTS", "WHITE SUPREMACY", MAGA (I don't get what's wrong with that), FOX NEWS. Legal migration to the USA is fine, bum rushing and perverting it is anti-Constitutional.
Truthfully you Maga idiots have been around a long time, lately you’ve become the authoritarian rabble rousers because Mr Trump emboldened you into saying what used to be the silent part.
I’ve been a fiscally conservative socially liberal person and I reject all of your labeling.
This is a fact, if we don’t find a way to compromise our positions this country will degenerate into a civil war, this country is a democracy I’ve contributed as much as anyone here, the only way this democracy works is if everyone gets some of what they want and allows the other guy the same. You don’t agree with what I’ve just said, tough, I don’t back down either.
They do.
I used to work for a company one of whose clients was a *large* department of the state of California. We maintained a database of their personnel, including names, ssns, dates of birth, addresses, and a whole host of other information.
There were several tens of *different* people, different names, different marital statuses, different dates of birth, addresses, sometimes even different genders. With the same SSN.
When we reported it to the state, they basically said they didn't care.
Seems like housing is the worst issue we are facing right now, not immigration.
Ellis Island and immigration: people came here to work, not to get welfare. Ellis Island was established to control immigration, they just didn't "walk in" and told to come to a hearing in 3 years. They were identified and many were deported. And sure, people were pissed off that foreigners came here and took jobs. We were growing at an incredible pace and needed workers.
Illegals coming here now - real different story. Sure, many come here in search of a better life. They bring no education, no skills, no talent to improve America, unvaccinated, aren't required to be jabbed when kids go to schools - this is a hot mess designed for power & control. And what about the 85,000 children and several million "Got Aways" DHS has no clue about, and will never be held accountable?
Now that the UAW is striking, they can get assemble jobs. WGA - what a boon for Univision!
The employment niche that illegal immigrants have filled is the type of work that no one else will do (at least not at the pay offered by employers...). Which is why industries like agriculture, livestock farming & processing, hospitality, and construction are quietly happy about the status quo with illegal or gray-area labor.
People and politicians who are against illegal immigration always seem reluctant to go after the industries and corporations that joyfully hire them. I mean, it's almost as if those politicians find the outrage over the problem more useful than working towards an actual solution...
And they also find the outrage more useful than actually succeeding at eliminating a cheap labor pool (particularly for the shittiest jobs) and then seeing the price of goods and services go up for their voters.
Also, there's plenty of illegal immigrants that are also strippers.
Amazing how much different your copy of the constitution is than mine, show us where it says that.
Actually it establishes a federal democratic republic, a union of 50 sovereign states, it is a democracy because the people govern themselves, it is representative because people choose elected officials by free and secret ballot
I’m done with this stupid argument I have better things to do with my time than pay attention to , and I mean this kindly, the people against the American way.
Then, set-up a legal process where workers comes in on a Work Visa across a secured bordered, with a verified foreign home address, taxes are withheld, eVerify is enforced, medical insurance of some sort is covered (not by taxpayers - this is a big one), they get registered via DNA, vaccinated on all shots, ect. They don't qualify for SS, Medicare or Medicaid, food stamps, ect. But then politicians won't get greased with lobbyist and Big Donor money - this goes for all in congress. And, the 14thA needs to be updated that those born on US soil must have at least one legal citizen parent by DNA analysis.
The Left doesn't like the immigration system they helped to create, so now they want "Comprehensive" (Open Borders & Amnesty) Immigration Reform and that just ain't gonna happen with our current Congress.
Also, there are many strippers who are also illegal immigrants.
And much like those American industries that are quietly okay with illegal / gray-market labor as long as they get what they want, I'm pretty sure that those strip club customers have the same "forgiving" philosophy as long as there's a smoking hot (illegal) Russian or Columbian dancer grinding away on their hard-ons.
If you're a smarmy, American hating fraud who always has an excuse as to why everything you do is stupid and fails, then you are a progressive. Start shooting everyone wading across the Rio Grande. Start with the white people to make progressives happy. make over staying your visa a felony punished by banishment and the loss of ever applying to come here again. Boycott every business you suspect of hiring illegals.
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Not me. Give me an All-American blonde, not a Latina who cannot converse in English. Of course, if I admit that, I’m branded a racist by the left. Sort of a no win situation, eh?
What a stupid, sarcastic question. The point of having a Politics forum is so that people can look in the other forums and read non-political content. Discussing politics in a place where it's not supposed to be discussed clutters the forum and makes it so that people have to sift through content which should already be sifted.
Better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your yap and remove all doubt.
And....seeing Kat's legs in those heels and short skirts, adds a bit of visual stimulant to the commentary.
Everybody has their personal preference, and that's fine. It doesn't affect me.
That said, I'm not sure if you knew this, but many Latinas speak English and were born and raised in the U.S. One of my favorite and hottest Latina dancers is an Army veteran who took part in Operation Iraqi Freedom. She showed me some pictures of herself and her unit when they occupied Sadam Hussain's palace.
"Of course, if I admit that, I’m branded a racist by the left. Sort of a no win situation, eh?"
I've never seen someone say "I like blondes." and get called a racist. You're afraid of weird things.
Also, with regard to Latinas, you're really missing out. But I'm actually in favor of more guys not being attracted to Latinas; it works in my favor.
So... keep doing that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Amer…
Sure, well, ignore Wikipedia then. Please provide your source stating that South America is not part of Latin America. Let's just start there.
The only South American countries that occasionally get excluded are Guyana and Suriname. And the same goes for Belize in Central America. But I have yet to see any credible definition that excludes all of South America.
Also, most definitions of Latin America include the Caribbean Islands (including Puerto Rico).