Private Rooms - Really Need Some Advice
I rarely even go to Private Rooms. I often go to clubs with friends or clients and they go, but it's a type of thing where I don't ask details. I have the impression they are not happy with the outcome though.
So, I went to a private room for the first time in a long long time at Rick's Cabaret. Guys, it was insanely expensive and not worth it. It was highway robbery. Let me tell you about my experience.
I was drunk as fuck, and not thinking straight. The girl was a 6.5 to 7.0 at best and by far the hottest girl there. With my drunk goggles, she was a 9 possibly.
Anyway here are the exact details on the costs:
- It is $400 for 30 minutes, but that goes to the club. I always thought that was it, and maybe a little tip, but boy was I wrong.
- The girl asked for $500 upfront. It's way too much but fair, b/c she was honest about it before my decision. So I was thinking I was paying $1000 total for the 30 minutes. Which I knew was way too much, but I was splurging b/c I got a good bonus. But, again, boy was I wrong.
- When you pay the $400 to the club upstairs, they basically demand a 20% tip. And they are pushy. You basically can't refuse. At the point, you feel you don't want to get into an argument and ruin the vibe, so another $80. Ok, but we're not done.
- When you sit down, both the girl and the waitress was extremely pushy on getting a champagne. Again, very very pushy, like I would be treating the girl like shit if I didn't. The cheapest one was $450, but they upsold me to 600. And again, she demands a 20 percent tip. So basically another $700.
- So we have 480+500+700. It's approximately $1700 for just 30 minutes!
- The experience: Well, no extras. It was basically similar to a very good lap dance in most clubs outside of NYC probably.
So, is this what to expect for private rooms? Is it really that much higher than the "listed price." Even if I insisted on no champagne, it would have been about $1000 for the 30 minute experience. And is it always a hustle to suck more money out of you. One would think, they would be happy with the $1000 total for 30 minutes! Why extort money out of me with the champagne, more tips etc and potentially deter me from ever considering this in the future.
Looking forward to some responses, information of how your experience in recent times has been. Let's refrain from the "you're an idiot" etc responses, in the interest of saving us time and keeping this an informative and productive thread that can help us all navigate the world of private rooms better.
So, I went to a private room for the first time in a long long time at Rick's Cabaret. Guys, it was insanely expensive and not worth it. It was highway robbery. Let me tell you about my experience.
I was drunk as fuck, and not thinking straight. The girl was a 6.5 to 7.0 at best and by far the hottest girl there. With my drunk goggles, she was a 9 possibly.
Anyway here are the exact details on the costs:
- It is $400 for 30 minutes, but that goes to the club. I always thought that was it, and maybe a little tip, but boy was I wrong.
- The girl asked for $500 upfront. It's way too much but fair, b/c she was honest about it before my decision. So I was thinking I was paying $1000 total for the 30 minutes. Which I knew was way too much, but I was splurging b/c I got a good bonus. But, again, boy was I wrong.
- When you pay the $400 to the club upstairs, they basically demand a 20% tip. And they are pushy. You basically can't refuse. At the point, you feel you don't want to get into an argument and ruin the vibe, so another $80. Ok, but we're not done.
- When you sit down, both the girl and the waitress was extremely pushy on getting a champagne. Again, very very pushy, like I would be treating the girl like shit if I didn't. The cheapest one was $450, but they upsold me to 600. And again, she demands a 20 percent tip. So basically another $700.
- So we have 480+500+700. It's approximately $1700 for just 30 minutes!
- The experience: Well, no extras. It was basically similar to a very good lap dance in most clubs outside of NYC probably.
So, is this what to expect for private rooms? Is it really that much higher than the "listed price." Even if I insisted on no champagne, it would have been about $1000 for the 30 minute experience. And is it always a hustle to suck more money out of you. One would think, they would be happy with the $1000 total for 30 minutes! Why extort money out of me with the champagne, more tips etc and potentially deter me from ever considering this in the future.
Looking forward to some responses, information of how your experience in recent times has been. Let's refrain from the "you're an idiot" etc responses, in the interest of saving us time and keeping this an informative and productive thread that can help us all navigate the world of private rooms better.
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One of the questions remaining is the high pressure I got for: 1) the champagne, and not the cheapest one. 2) 20% tips to the "house" and the waitress.
I still visit that club semi-regularly on work travel, and have lots of fun in the regular lap dance room. BUT, I'll just never do a higher priced VIP dance there, or almost anywhere else, ever again. TUSCL reviews do help figure out where VIP is not just a rip-off trap, but those places seem few and far between. Higher-end clubs and tourist destinations are effectively guaranteed to take take take.
Ultimately when you pay those VIP's upfront they really got you by the balls, if they want to lie there ain't much you can do. But still if your are going to do it. EVERYTHING get negotiated on the floor, no finding anything out in VIP. Talk about everything that your going to want. Don't take "Oh I'll show you, Oh you'll find out, Oh trust me, it'll be hot" Na uh. Any mystery bail on that shit. If there a true insidious lying ROB, then there ain't much you can do.
Manhattan is not for new jacks, that is bethpage black. Jersey is a great place to get your feet wet in some of those go go bars. Real cheap and these off the boat latinas working in a lot of them want you to have a good time so you'll come back, although those girls ain't gonna be working in midtown anytime soon but that's ok.
IMO, more hands get into your pockets as the upscale nature of a club increases over others.
The root problem with the strip club industry is the gubment. It's true that a bad strip club (like a bad bar in general) can be a nusaince to the area, or a danger to vulnerable women. But, instead of closing clubs with those issues, the gubment just makes it hard to open a strip club. If it weren't for that, it probably would not be hard to find a budget or upscale strip club (whichever you prefer) that's nearby (like restaurants, hotels, etc.). But places like Manhattan might be the exception. The real estate costs might mean that only an upscale club is viable.
One unfortunate nature of clubbing is for a lot of people there is no value in their local market.
If you're on here, read reviews about a club before you go. Check out reviews for clubs in other areas, especially the top 40 club lists if you want to see what other places are like. You also gotta be willing to stand up to the pressure to buy shit you don't want, don't buy a $200 bottle of champagne if you don't want it.
Also, fuck the champagne. The girls don't even like to drink it anyway. I have done VIPs with champagne service, and these waitresses want a big tip for carrying a bottle on a tray about 20 feet and opening a door. Fuck that too. One time I gave one of them a $20 bill. She worked 30 seconds, did nothing, and said ironically "wow, thanks, twenty dollars."
Respect yourself, and your money. I have dropped as much as $2000+ on 2+ hrs VIP with all of that shit, and it just isn't worth it. It doesn't matter how much money you have or how much your bonus was. Get a good VIP for $300 or $400 all in, and take that extra money and do anything else with it. If the expensive VIP was better, it would be one thing. But it never is, for me.
Most sex workers are comfortable with their work as long as you are friendly, considerate, not condescending, and respect their individual boundaries (which vary widely). Even though they provide you with a better time, they typically are OK with less $. They realize a lower price per visit means you will likely feel like it's worth it to see them frequently and regularly. Generally someone would rather get $200 - $300 once or more times a month on an ongoing basis, rather than two or three times that as a one shot deal.
Next time, you’ll make a smarter choice.
The VIPs I usually do are 90 for the house and 200-250 for the dancer (that's what I negotiate). No stupid champagne and tips, except I give the floor manager 100 for the house and he keeps the 10 change.
As these comments prove, we end up seeing this as a "lesson" and learn to "never again." I mean, I get they just want to take advantage of one-timers like tourists etc. But why? Why not just make it really expensive, but just a little less.. and not add the extra ripping off (like the mandatory 20% tips and pressurized champagne purchase).
That may bring back at least some repeat customers, and still a shitload of money for no more overhead on the part of the club - the rooms are already there and they are already paying the staff.
Am I wrong here?