Any tips for meeting OTC

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Dustyhawkins
I know I'm probably annoying AF now, especially after my discussions the last few days this week. Anyway fellas my topic today is about meeting outside the club. So I've been to strip clubs a lot, and I know many dancers over time, like eventually the dancers will all know you from a club, you'll get dances whatever become their regular. I don't know why but for some reason especially for me I've never been able to pull an OTC like it seems so difficult to do. Like I've gotten dances, VIP whatever from the girl, we talked and known each other for a few visits. Then after the dance I'll casually be like So yeah your a cool chick I love it, we should meet up sometime and hang out, they give the number, that's not the problem. I've gotten over hundred strippers numbers they always talk the talk they're like yeah yeah we'll meet up and figure it out whatever you want, and I'm telling them I'm gonna pay too, they know I'm gonna give them money. So that's not the issue, if I were trying to meet up for free and just get company or a girls attention without the money to meet up then that makes sense if they're not complying or don't talk. But even as I'm offering money, like alot give their number and say yes or we can do this or that but then they never reply, or some reply and talk a few messages but never meet up or anything. Like what's the problem? If you didn't wanna meet up that would've been all good you could've just said so, I don't do that, or I don't wanna meet up. Its more annoying that they lead you on and make up shit.

Its just meeting outside the club in day or evening, whatever you request whether it's ranging from extras, to kissing, cuddling, to even just kicking it regularly too hanging out adventuring doing something cool, watching a movie, I don't know. There could be many things you want, whatever you want to meet OTC for. For me my reasoning was that she's not gonna go out of her way to meet one asshole customer for like $200-300 when she can just stay at the club and keep meeting more people and make more $$$. Or they don't feel comfortable or its risky to get that acquaintanted and have your identity more exposed. But if that's the case you should let someone know from the get go, I know I already said that, but you can all agree I am right, just tell someone straight up, and I'd be fine with that. So what are your takes on this topic and what are your tips to eventually get a successful OTC meetup and have fun or just enjoy each other's companionship thank you guys have fun in your strip club journey!

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Salty.Nutz
a year ago
They lead you on so you keep spending money inside the club.
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Salty.Nutz
a year ago
Go on slow days, but i noticed most strippers like to keep it in the club.
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ilbbaicnl
a year ago
In the relatively tame clubs that I frequent, most of the dancers would never do OTC. (The exception is Toronto Clubs, where a good percentage will offer OTC after a couple of dances.) Or, they would want $ in the thousands to do it. I've met up OTC with quite a few strippers over the years. They get to know you in the club. With strippers (and everyone) I'm only looking for a win-win, not trying to play or get over on anybody. We've always worked it out beforehand what we will and won't do, and the $.

You don't seem to have harsh negative stereotypes of strippers. So, if you're under 40, not impossible you could date a stripper. You have to like them as a woman who happens to be a stripper, not because she is a stripper. She has to be single. (Most aren't even if they say they are.) Don't expect her to stop dancing if you get serious with her, unless you've got the $ to maintain her lifestyle.
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CJKent_band
a year ago
@Dustyhawkins

I will play along and comment on your discussion.

Q: Like what's the problem? (Meeting OTC)

A: The "problem" is your lack of knowledge about the bizarro world of strippes and the adult idustry along with your unreasonable/unrealistic expectations.

Most American women, strippers or not, believe that having sex for money is Morally Wrong.

They will tell you what they think you want to hear, in order to keep you as a regular source of income, without having to givesex for money.

You also wrote and I quote:

"Or they don't feel comfortable or its risky to get that acquaintanted and have your identity more exposed. But if that's the case you should let someone know from the get go, I know I already said that, but you can all agree I am right, just tell someone straight up, and I'd be fine with that."

The strippers have not obligation to "let someone know from the get go" you included.

And NO ALL reading your discussion will agree that YOU ARE RIGHT.

As you can probably not see is your entitled attitude and lack of knowledge about the Paid for Sex Hobby.

What have worked for me in having good OTC is building a trusted relationship with a girl I really like and let her know that I am a mature gentleman who is reliable, trustworthy, safe and willing to make a mutually beneficial relationship with her, outside the club; a win win for both by eliminating the middleman, the club.

Remember All activities, sexual or not, in our capitalist society have a cost in money, time and effort.

“In this country, you gotta make the money first.

Then when you get the money, you get the power.

Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”

~ Cuban refugee Tony Montana (Al Pacino) in the movie Scarface (1983).
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Dustyhawkins
a year ago
It is better to let someone know from the start that you don't meet out of the club so you don't waste time, and play games like that. Would you rather have a stripper give you her number say she's down to meet up out of the club but then doesn't follow through or just wastes time or would you rather just have her tell you flat out from the beginning I do NOT meet out of the club and problem solved, you thank them and say no problem it's all good. And no time or any bullshit you have to go through. Ahhhhh thought so
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CJKent_band
a year ago
@Dustyhawkins

You said it yourself at the beginning of your discussion and I quote:

“I know I'm probably annoying AF”

Yes you are annoying and that is why most girls don’t want to do OTC with you.

And on top of that you are not self aware; Self-awareness is how an individual experiences and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires.

That and your inability to learn and accept that the adult industry that includes strippers is what people in TUSCL call “Bizarro World” because it is a place which is weirdly inverted or opposite to expectations.

Why don’t you just go to the Happiest Place on Earth; with the right mindset and realistic expectations, most American heterosexual men will have a good time at the Hong Kong Gentlemen Club because it is, according to Krusty, the Happiest Place on Earth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mCFQl0NfoP…

just be careful out there.

:D
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Dustyhawkins
a year ago
I'm actually not annoying at all, I was just being too nice, because in my previous discussions people made it seem as if I am, by posting and complaining but the truth is I'm really not. Fuck them I can post 100 discussions a day and rant about whatever I want, I was being too nice. I'll post whatever I want. I don't care.

Thank you @ ilbbaicnl your a real one, yes I don't have a harsh stereotype for strippers of course there's all different kinds you got the sweet ones the, lovely nice ones, bitch strippers entitled ones, druggies, horny ones there's all different kinds but yeah I don't stereotype too much I just let them be and yeah see I like your view point anything is possible man. You can date them hang out whatever, screw people that say your not supposed to go that far for a stripper or they're not meant for that you can do anything, it's possible. Thank you again my friend for being awesome
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Dustyhawkins
a year ago
And thanks CJ Kent, look man u sound decent, no hate man I don't wanna have any beef with each other man. Maybe you are right on some extent, I'm too quick or don't think things out realistically. Thanks for recommending Hong Kong Gentlemen's Club. Yeah man just takes time to build trust and show maturity and get to know them over time and be a real man then they'll meet you
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Cruz_LV
a year ago
From my experience even if you meet OTC dancers are going to charge tax simply by it’s a fantasy bring home a dancer.

Not to come off with GPS but when I meet a guy in the club he has to do a VIP to get my number plus I don’t meet OTC for less than 1k. But I’m also in Vegas so that’s pretty common
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Dustyhawkins
a year ago
Oh shit with all that class you better be a pornstar or some model then if you're trying to ask for all that money hahahahah. It can be worth it if you are as well. If it's just scraps or mediocre girl then not pay that much
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Cruz_LV
a year ago
Most girls don’t want to leave the club and “do more” for what they easily can make in the club for doing nothing at all. So 2-500 range isn’t the “golden ticket” 😂🤷🏻‍♀️
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twentyfive
a year ago
My own personal experience tells me that OTC is more available in some places, and I’d venture a guess it’s probably easier to find for regulars than for less well known folks, I am asked often in certain clubs where I go often, other clubs where I only go sporadically not so much, but it’s really not difficult to find if you know what to look for and are willing to spend 300 or more.
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CJKent_band
a year ago
@Cruz_LV

You wrote and I quote:

“… when I meet a guy in the club he has to do a VIP to get my number plus I don’t meet OTC for less than 1k. But I’m also in Vegas so that’s pretty common.”

Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.

:D

Good Times, Good Times.

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CJKent_band
a year ago
@Cruz_LV

I’m a serious note; how do you “screen” the men you decide to do OTC with.

I suppose you listen to your gut feeling, spider 🕷️ sense to avoid potential dangers.

What measures do you use for your safety.

Thank you in advance for your advice.
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Cruz_LV
a year ago
@CJKent I do use my spidy scenes. I go with my gut. But I’m also not blatantly saying “hey I’m going to and fuck and suck your brains out” discretion is key.

I typically have them save my number send me a txt so I know who they are. Rarely do I meet the same night usually the day after we can do lunch and private time. Meanwhile I will do my screening how I normally do on the back end.

But really if I’m offering that to a customer 9/10 he has a good vibe to him he is t creepy and we have talked for a few hours while he has been at the club or in VIP
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Dustyhawkins
a year ago
Yeah 1K I understand if your going the traditional old fashioned way doing dinner, going to a hotel, wine, candles, spending time going on a date spending many hours then 1k makes sense. But when I offer 200-$300 I'm not asking for all that fancy stuff or many hours or the whole day. For around $250 or 300 all I'm asking for is like a quick session like 30 minutes or so just some quick car fun
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Dustyhawkins
a year ago
Or still the same amount of it's just a regular hang out like chill cuddle adventure watch a movie go somewhere just a regular hang out spend time together, non sexual. That shouldn't be that much money either since there's no extras and you just want some companionship and affection lol
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jackslash
a year ago
Bitches be crazy. Strippers be crazier. You can never know if a stripper will follow up on an OTC invitation or ghost you.

You can increase your chances of success. Some clubs are more extras-friendly than others. Read the club reviews of clubs in your area. Some cities have more extras-friendly clubs and you could take a trip for strip clubbing. Girls working in these clubs are more likely to do OTC.

When I became a strip club regular I spent several months trying to score OTC. Once you've done it, it becomes easier. Don't be discouraged.

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ilbbaicnl
a year ago
Anything you want that they don't plan to give you, they generally won't say no, they'll say you will or may get it eventually. Their phone number, extras, OTC, a date, a kiss whatever. They may say or hint they'll do this or that, even if you don't ask. I don't hate on them for it, because it's the way of the world. They're no more greasy than the marketing department of anywhere I've worked. Even at one of my first jobs, at a fast food place, rule was, "the hot oil kills all the germs" if something fell on the floor. Buyer beware, as the saying goes.
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5footguy
a year ago
Dusty: "I know I'm probably annoying AF"

Me: "nah, he seems like a nice guy"

[reads from a previous discussion]

Dusty in previous discussion:
"but anyway my topic today is ok so for example let's say it's a girl a stripper you semi talked to already you had a hi hello short introduction very brief then you see her later that night or another time, or forget the hi hello introduction I mean that's applicable but I'm saying it can also be a girl your just noticing and want to talk to"

Me: "it's all starting to make sense now..."
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Dustyhawkins
a year ago
Huh? English only brother
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Jdo11
a year ago
Idk where you live that you're getting OTC for $$ - $$$.
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Estafador
a year ago
People are afraid of saying no. Some men flip out others are docile and everything in between. One person already said it's to keep you as a customer and that's one possibility. The other is, fear or retaliation. And if you don't come back, you didn't make a lasting impression to remember them by. You know who they remember, the super charmers, the real sweethearts they genuinely have a good time with. Or the big big spenders who make it clear they have the dough to make the risk worth it in their eyes.

Still not everyone even sells the cooch but saying now still. An be intimidating.
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Estafador
a year ago
Saying no still can be*
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Estafador
a year ago
@Cruz_LV didn't have enough experience to assume that's how it normally is but I did VIP once for $500 (I felt sick even though she was smoking hot)

All I wanted was a more intimate dance because I had the cash but she immediately wanted to suck the swag and ask to come with me on vacation asking for my number and everything. So perhaps there is something to what you said but I need more experiences to validate the claim. Also we were both black (I think the only black people before I left VIP)
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RiskA
a year ago
Haha “let’s hang out” doesn’t work, but “I’ll give you $XXX for an hour of fucking” might. OP’s posts continually confuse IRL encounters with transactional sex worker encounters. A strip club patron is nothing but a walking wallet to them 99.99% of the time, and believing otherwise is a recipe for disappointment & heartbreak. But hey, “don’t stop believing, hold on to that feeling…”
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funonthaside
a year ago
One needs some level of game, even in the bizarro world of strip clubbing. If you're not able to pull an unattractive chubby civvie, why would you think you can pull an attractive stripper simply by tipping her a few dollars in a club.

OTC'ing requires comfort and a level of mutual connection/interest. If she doesn't feel comfortable with you, she won't see a PL OTC, even for good money.

Start will removing phrases such as "look man" and yeah man" from your conversational toolbox.

Also, recognize that strippers will try to convince you that OTC is possible, in order to get you to keep spending money chasing that end goal.

I sense that you're coming across as needy by bringing it up more than once. If/when they are ready for OTC with you, you won't need to ask...THEY will initiate it.

I also suspect that they believe you're actually after more than a casual OTC encounter.
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