Where should I go ?

Miami isn't too far for you, is it? Low risk, potential high reward.

As far as #3, Desire is the best thing in Eastern New England, but that's like being tall for a dwarf. It isn't what it used to be in terms of dancer quality, reliability, or mileage. If you were going on an East Coast swing, Providence might be worth a day and a night of clubbing and Italian food on Federal Hill, not much more.

It sounds like you have some cash. If you really want to get wild, take Lufthansa to Frankfurt, pack some Viagra, and FKK your nuts off. Depending on the services you want, 65E entrance fee and you have a day of 100E a pop with a smorgasbord of girls. Especially if you like Romanians.

@warrior15

I will play along and comment on your discussion:

Q: Where should I go ? A: You should go to:

Hong Kong in Tijuana, because it is, according to Krusty, the Happiest Place on Earth.

With the right mindset and realistic expectations, most heterosexual men will have a good time at Hong Kong because it has a good variety of women and it is affordable for most Americans

Q: Is it safe ? A: Yes If you behave like a Gentlemen you will be treated like a gentleman, if you behave like an ugly American Tourist you will be treated accordingly.

The second place you should go is to the German Freikörperkultur (FKK) clubs if you can afford it, because it has quality women at a reasonable price.

Again as long as you have reasonable, realistic expectations

If you don’t want to be out of the country then considered going to the Nevada brothels, like the Moonlite BunnyRanch, Chicken Ranch, etc.

It is a good option to indicate in legal adult industry services, there are some good women there that really enjoy that type of work, because the money is good for them, and occasionally you can see “pornstars” working there.

Again only if you can afford it, “Don’t Buy Things You Can’t Afford”

And remember:

Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.

:D

Given my personal PL-propensity for variety and liking/experiencing the-unknown (w.r.t. SCs); I’d personally be inclined to try a club(s) I’ve never been to b/f so I could experience-it-for-myself vs “wondering” what it’s like just from reviews.

w.r.t. if Tijuana is safe – you’ve been on TUSCL long-enough to have a feel for that answer – given the thousands of Hong Kong reviews and how many TUSCLers (and likely non- TUSCLers) go there on a regular-basis and have been doing-so for years w/ no issues; I think the proof is in the pudding per se (there are no guarantees though and there will never be).

Lastly – part of me wonders if SCs will have the same appeal to you after all you’ve experienced via SA – it may take some time to get your SC-muscles used to it again.

Warrior I think I heard you say your not a big LA fan. But a guy like you sounds like he's doing well for himself why not go to 4Play or BELAX and go hog wild dude that's what I would do. Or do COI. If you got money LA is a good time, very underrated on here (seeking is great out there too) but most of us are east coast/midwest people on this board so we go with what we know. Chance to see some ultra hot girls too out there

Or maybe go DFW, if I had big money I would live at the Lodge or hell most of those Harry Hines joints are nice. Maybe think about Toronto area clubs too, you can definitely have fun in those, we don't talk about them as much.

If you went to Providence we'd have to turn that into some kind New England meet up, how often is Warrior up north.

Fuck TJ too dangerous. Some guy from California just got shot their doing charity work. I used to say FUCK Juarez too, i'm not doing it.

My 2 cents I would just do something different. I love Miami but after a while I just get sick of the bolts ons, fake booty, that kind of all have the same look and "chew wanna dance baybeee" I don't hate it but I just got to be in the mood for it nowadays, at least if I'm spending money. Detroit if you haven't done BT's or LS might not be bad to check out.

" it may take some time to get your SC-muscles used to it again. " I had to laugh out loud when I read that. Thanks Papi. But you didn't give me any suggestions.

Tetra. Miami is probably the safest choice as far as getting what I want. But when I go down there, I always end up with sugar babies because it's just so easy to get them down there. I already know about 3 that I could just call up at a moments notice. I was really thinking about Desire. But is it not a sure thing ? I was under the impression that it was very similar to Flight Club. You go to VIP and you both get naked. Is that not the case ?

Mud. I"m not LOADED. But I do probably spend more than I should. But thanks for the suggestions. I hadn't thought about LA. That trip wouldn't be any more trouble than TJ. But LA traffic is terrible. If I do the Desire thing, then maybe a meet-up might be in order. But is Desire a sure thing ? I"m used to the Miami version of VIP. Am I going to get that there ? Dallas clubs are fun, but I"m from Texas. Too many relatives there.

Warrior, I wouldn't say Desire is a sure thing. There are girls ranging from no contact in the VIP to FS. In the before days you could get $200 FS (plus room fee) from half the girls in the club. Now lots of girls ask $200 just for an HJ and a lot will go no further, or charge an exorbitant amount for FS. You need to do your research if you want to grab a nut.

For a sure thing in VIP, that would be Pleasant Moments Bridgeport a couple hours away. $60 FS with a hot Latina. But it's an assembly line in and out, rushed and in a filthy environment. Sometimes that's what you want. Others, no.

Of your list, Miami and TJ would be my choices.

TJ for the mere volume of girls and easy access to more fun when you are ready.

Miami for non-SC activities when you are not clubbing.

Detroit doesn't have much going for it outside of the clubs.

Las Vegas clubs are overrated and expensive.

Providence doesn't have enough clubs.

“… Thanks Papi. But you didn't give me any suggestions …”

I did – my suggestion was to hit a club/area of interest you hadn’t been to b/f basically for the novelty of it – it seems you already know the better areas/clubs to hit – each area/club(s) will have its pros/cons - I see hitting an area/club new-to-me as a pro.

w.r.t. Miami/SoFlo; I think ur safest-bet would be Cheetah Pomapano (particularly dayshift) - it still has the Miami/SoFlo negatives but not as egregious as most other SoFlo clubs.

You could also try one of the few SoFlo non-ITC-extras clubs like Scarlett's Hallandale; Vixens Davie; Rachels West Palm; that tend to have good-talent which u can possibly pull an OTC out of?

Warrior - Desires is 100% a sure thing, but it is now in a talent level lull. A desires meet up would be great and there are other clubs in the area. If my goal was great inexpensive dances and full service extras I would go to Pompano. Its been awesome for the last 35 years imo. Every time I go I have fun.

You know your best bet overall is Cheetah in Pompano, Booby Trap isn't a bad choice either, and as experienced as you are, you could probably pull OTC out of most of our clubs from Miami to West Palm and beyond. I've cut back quite a bit lately, but I was at Goldfinger yesterday afternoon it seemed to be pretty good, I had a good afternoon., didn't really spend that much either,

If you're going to visit Detroit, early summer is not a bad time. I still find the Dearborn Inkster Romulus stretch to be the best mongering in the world. Yes Pompano is similar, but sometimes you need a non-latina.

Why? If you've been, you already know. From dive bars like Bogarts to high end FC, you've got nearly endless options.

I would never go someplace just for the clubs. I want other things to do during the day, which rules out Detroit and TJ for me. I'm also not much of a beach guy, so Miami is out. I can't stand the Vegas clubs so that's out too.

So for me that would leave Providence. Not only is the weather great this time of year, but the culinary scene is fantastic and everything is easy to get to. If you are a history buff who is not already a native of New England, there are historical sites to visit as well. It's also a short train ride to Boston if you ever desired a day trip there. Oh, and yes, you really shouldn't have too much finding what you want from the girls there, whether ITC or OTC.

TJ is one of the most murderous cities in the world, but it's fine if you stay in the tourist zone. They don't like their customers getting hurt or spooked. The danger is the cartel violence, which is targeted at those in that world. I'd go to TJ fearlessly , just stay in the zone.

Lately I'm into AMPs. No muss no fuss and usually a good little adventure.

"... I would never go someplace just for the clubs. I want other things to do during the day ..."

Areas with a good club-scene (read multiple clubs of interest) should keep a PL busy day and night (with the rest of the time sleeping-in-late; going to get food/Starbucks/etc: and in certain areas fighting-traffic) - of course this would likely be predicated on a PL liking the variety-model vs the PL that prefers to focus on a specific dancer for the visit; and also predicated on whether the PL enjoys dayshift SCing (assuming a good dayshift).

^ Papi, tbh I can't imagine occupying 12+ hours a day in strip clubs. To each his own of course, but if I'm going to be there more than a couple of days, I want other things to do.

For example, on my last trip to Providence, my best day there included brunch in an incredible New England style breakfast joint with food that would be hard to find almost anywhere else in the country, a lazy afternoon playing Texas hold 'em at the Twin Rivers Casino, dinner in an extraordinary old Italian joint on Federal Hill and, as a wonderful dessert, a nice piece of ass and otherwise excellent treatment at Desire. Talk about a great fucking day, lol.

To each his own of course, but for me a vacation works best when it's a complete experience.

Don't write off ATL. It's not nearly as good as it was several years ago with mulitple club closings, including Follies, but good times can be had at extremely reasonable prices. At Vivide and Diamond, $60 to the house and $200 to the girl (sometimes $150) will get you whatever you want in a completely private VIP room for 30 minutes. That's how much you pay, maybe more, for 15 minutes in most other places.

True, the clubs are kind of dives and you will have to sort through some riffraff to find acceptable candidates, but they are definitlely there. Real fun is available at Tattletale also, although at significantly higher prices, especially lately. There have been a lot of upgrades to the club. It's small, but very nice, and dayshift at TT is better than it has ever been. Night shift is as good as any club anywhere.

1. Miami
2. Tijuana
3. Detroit

Your lifestyle may vary but I'd wholly avoid Detroit and it's crime just to pound out sooner white trash pawgs, especially since such dancers could also be found in safer cities.

I used to follow this guy on YT by name of osho who'd document his trips to Tijuana and give good insight into if the scene was safe or not, but this was one year ago. If he's still around I'm sure his insight would be good

Otherwise Miami is both safe(est) and replete high mileage.

If you're looking for a sugar baby, don't discount community college scenes. The stripper to nurse career path has a community college in there somewhere.

Not sure where you are based but I’ve been to all of the cities on your list. I’d say Tijuana first, followed by Detroit and Miami.

Providence and Las Vegas tied for last. Providence only has one notable club and Vegas is high prices and a lot of hustle.