Drug dealers in the club. Yea or nay?

That's an unequivocal nay for me.

If you're going to break a law, only break one at a time!

I’m not a fan of adding more seedy folks to the crowd in a strip club.

I think drug dealers can be a distraction for the dancers - who are likely drug addicts and in need of a fix. Generally you can easily spot a dealer - as the dancers all know him - they flock to him - and they go outside for smoke breaks with him.

I know club owners are a sketchy group - so they might be paying off the cops enough that they aren’t worried that a low level drug dealer is helping keep dancers full of juice. It simply seems that breaking fewer laws would be better -

Who knows what else is happening? Prostitution, money laundering, undocumented dancers and workers. Adding drug sales isn’t a good idea. It’s not like the dancers will wait and use the drugs when they get home.

I don’t imagine this to be a good idea, I don’t see them in the clubs I go to, but who knows.

Generally speaking, I would be against drug dealers in the strip clubs.

However, a dude sitting in the back during day shift selling little blue pills might have a viable market and be a boon to the club.

Also a dude selling Prozac or Zoloft to a desertscrub type rage monkey would be appreciated if we happen to be in the club at the same time.

Nay, but this obviously out of our direct control. The most you can do is simply not go to that club, if it's that unpleasant for you.

Meh, most drug dealers I’ve met at the clubs aren’t actively working. They are just there to unwind like anybody else. And most of them are there at night, tho I have knowingly met a couple during the day. And a couple of more I suspected but didn’t bother to ask.

Business activity can happen though. I remember working during the day at one particular place, and I met somebody who will go to a bunch of clubs within that city’s metro. One of the places he goes to for business is one of the clubs that TUSCLers commonly review, and there is huge customer demand for his products from the “gentleman” older white guys. Or that’s what I was told anyways and I didn’t doubt that. I did a few dances with him and then he received a phone call and immediately had to leave to go to another club. He said he might be back later that day, but never saw him after that.

The guy that was in Follies would buy the corner table for $100 (I know because I got politely but firmly moved off that table a few times). So that $100 went to the house. I'm guessing they got more as a cut, too.

He and his buddy carried so much product they brought in a backpack. At least one time I saw a gun in the backpack, too. They were just let in past the broken metal detector and the front door girl patdown.

There were always 2-5 girls that parked their asses at his table. Other dancers and a few customers would walk up and discreetly make buys. Not only was he tolerated but management treated him like a VIP.

Unequivocally no. That only brings in the wrong clientele and the wrong employees. Worst of all it will encourage cops to hang around on the streets outside your club, increasing the amount of people who get picked up for driving under the influence, speeding, etc. There's nothing worse for business

A popular strip club manager was fired from one of our local clubs for allowing too many drug dealers in the club. Owners tend to worry about their club being permanently shut down by local law enforcement if drug activity is going on there. The only thing I would worry about is that drug dealers and violence sometimes come together but I have never seen anything like rival drug dealers fighting over territory in a strip club.

This thread is the customer equivalent of dancers on Reddit or stripperweb who claim that extras don’t happen in the clubs ever aside from one or two NASTY people who ruin it for everyone 🤷🏻‍♀️ Another thing that both have in common is that managers know and look the other way, and are way more likely to tolerate behavior that isn’t too too blatant.

A local drug dealer that was known well died a few years ago from a stroke. He was always in the club dropping stacks of dollar bills and would at times make it rain where the bouncers had to get a trash bag to sweep up the dollar bills! True story, not an Icee fictional tale. Anyway, I assume since there is a symbiotic relationship of money exchanging hands there will always be a need for drug dealers at the club getting the girls to party and do the things they do to maintain the party. I could be judge mental about it, but the fact remains as long as they aren’t bothering me I could care less. Do your thing and leave me out of it, and do whatever it is you (dealers and consumers) need in order to get by.

I find that the drug dealers will hassle me (two times) at the bar about getting dances from girls and drinking more. They are consummate sales people.

Would I prefer strip clubs to be drug free? Sure, actually I would like the whole world to be that way but it isn't going to happen.

In most clubs the dealers aren't overly noticeable and don't cause a problem so I don't give them much of a thought. Honestly the girls that are drug users are going to get them from somewhere and it is probably safer for them to get them in the club instead of some sketchy alley where they could end up getting robbed or raped in the process.

I have been in a few clubs where dealers started to become too open about it and attracted to much attention. In those cases management usually cracked down on it to avoid getting attention from law enforcement. When the drug dealing / drug use gets out of control that will kill a club quicker than anything. It will either bring legal action from the cops or just end up driving away good customers.

I don't mind a dancer that uses drugs as long as they don't go overboard. It is just like a dancer that drinks and it depends on how much they are doing it. If she just does enough to get a buzz to where she is more relaxed and enjoying herself more that is fine. If she is so wasted she has trouble carrying on a conversation or dancing then that is a problem. Both drugs and alcohol have the same issue with addiction and once a person gets so addicted they can't get by without it then it becomes a problem.

They're in the clubs around here. Most of the time they're fairly discreet when they're working and they don't bother me. There are clubs where it's beyond my tolerance and it does bother me, I mostly avoid those clubs. When it is obvious, I find it's mostly the girls or customers who make it that way and very rarely the dealer. The girls are equally dumb/obvious about it with the dealer as they are the customers who give it to them. I do agree that management knows, I think in a lot of the clubs where it's not overtly obvious it is that way due to negotiation and agreement. In some cases, the dealer is the managers dealer. I won't name the club, but but at least one popular south Florida club has a rotation of dealers that line up with who the floor manager is that day.

I would agree it's a lot like extras in a lot of ways. It occurs in almost every club to some extent. It's largely tolerated by management within reasonable limits, sometimes actively participated in. Has segments of the management, customer, and dancer base that range the spectrum of full support to neutral to vehement objection. And I think you'd be surprised in who both the buyers and sellers are in a lot of cases.

Every club has drug dealers in it. Some clubs are pretty much drug dens. Dealers will pay management. Or they give management and their pet staff and dancers freebies and discounts.

What I'm seeing a lot of now is less drugs being sold. But more drugs resold. Like someone will buy a little more and resell it to others to get a little money back. Girls will be out there selling half bumps to other girls.

But blues are flooding clubs. Dealers will sell them for as little as 50 cents a pill to girls in hopes if getting them hooked and make them steady customers.

And a lot of if not most strip club violence is about drug turf

I assume ppl deal drugs in clubs. Not my business.

Drug dealers in clubs eventually get shot

I could provide news articles but I do sort of believe in privacy even for low life’s

I just assume by looking at them but I don't hone in on other customers too much in all honesty.

I don't think there should be drug dealers in strip clubs. They degrade the club and are completely unnecessary to it.

I suspect that in some cases there guys are the girl's pimps.

Should run them out. And I don't think people should ever do drugs.

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Without drugs most of the girls wouldn't even be there.

Yeah drugs destroy lives but when they're young and making fast money and partying for a living they don't see it that way. They think they're in control til the one day they find out they're not

Not all of the girls are like that, needing drugs or alcohol to be there, only some of them.

And only some are living just for today because of the money.

My Org will be going after the ones who are not that way, or who can be lead away from that.

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You claim most hoes are sober and that every relationship is p4p 🤡


Most girls can't have sex with tricks sober. And many need that extra confidence boost to even get on stage

I said some are clean and sober. Others can be led in that direction. These are the ones my org will deal with. But we never deal with people who are "in Recovery" or "Struggling", only those who have made a clean break and can show us that this is what they really want.

And no I don't say that all relationships are P4P, I just say that financial plans and hopes are part of all walks of life.

"Most girls can't have sex with tricks sober. And many need that extra confidence boost to even get on stage" Yes, I understand this and have seen it first hand. I only disagree when you say "most", it is only some. And many will want to change at some point. And our guys will never be tricks, the women will really be impressed by them.


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There is no organization

I have a fledgling organization, but is is true that at this time it is not really organized, it is just friends.

SJG

Do you have sex with your friends?

With the women, yes, that is what makes this a prototype for The Organization.

SJG

Everyone in this small group has benefited from collective efforts to create employment and business opportunities for each other. And there is a strong bond formed from shared projects. And the women are very much a part of this. But there is also a special commitment to making sure that the women are always very well taken care of. This has worked and it continues to work.

But to be able to expand this in a cookie cutter like fashion to a vastly large and geographically spread out group, is still taking a great deal of work. And a lot of this work is business development, because economic viability is at the core of this.

SJG

Agree that drugs will get a club closed quicker than extras. For example, I was at BT Pompano yesterday afternoon and a K9 cop came in with his dog, sniffed the whole place over, and left. Nobody really batted an eye in the club, but it seemed like several bartenders and dancers did go peek outside to make sure the K9 car wasn't parked too close to their personal rides. The extras factory maybe hit pause for 5 minutes, but a dancer said to me that the cops only cared about drugs, not dick. Seemed like a totally routine event for the club.

If you want to go to a club where no drugs are consumed, you have to go to a juice bar.

If you mean you don't like being at a club with illegal activity, good luck finding one where nobody's cheating on their taxes.

Some of these comments are straight up idiotic. No matter what club you hang out at there is probably some sort of drug dealing going on. Just because you are naive you don't see it doesn't mean it is not happening.


Example, several years ago I went to another city with a group of people and we all stayed at the same motel. It was an average mid to low mid tier motel like comfort inn or similar. There was obvious prostitution going on and obviously lots of homeless people hanging around. There was a low tier strip club down the street. There were two older guys with their wives and a few singles in the group. Nobody noticed a thing going on. I mentioned it to one of they guys and he was like, oh really???.After I pointed it out he told me I was right. I didn't mention it to anyone else in the group untill after we checked out of the motel. One guy argued with me saying it was impossible.

If you have been to strip clubs and not seen any drug dealing, you are completely oblivious to reality.

I find it amazing what people don't notice. Lots of drug deals happen in police station parking lots. I know of a meth house busted right next door to a County Sheriff in a nice middle class neighborhood.

Drug deals happen anywhere and everywhere

Also q lot of dealers try to get girls into debt then have them sell pussy to pay it off.

Prostitution is tolerated more than drugs by cops coz a lot of pimps are snitches.

I don't mind drugs in the club. BUT, my pattern of clubbing is to hit a city for 2-4 days and party all day and night. Hence, it makes it easy to score. Plus, you can party with the girls. But, if I were a weekly regular at my local club (and I already have my drug needs met elsewhere), I could see it being a con.

All of my reviews are from Vegas, so you can probably figure out where the party is, where I go, and what drugs are probably involved.

And for the record, I am not a "low life degenerate" drug abuser.....I am a "high life responsible degenerate" drug user, not abuser.

Icee why is prostitution tolerated more. What do you mean pimps are snitches. WHo are they snitching on?

Go troll someone else dumb bitch

Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Ozark

Drugs = Money
Money = Better Pussy

but not always. Betty White was on Crestor and Lisinopril and the sex was pretty bad

I don't like it. I am risk adverse and I think a drug dealer brings lots of risk. That being said, I certainly don't leave when I know one is present. So....

And commenting on Ski and Scrub above, not my business, but usually there is only one DD in the club. That means they don't want another moving in and may take aggressive action to keep it as their turf. That action is what I want to avoid.

Icee usually the snitches are people who snitch on their former dealer partners or snitch on their competition. Who would a pimp be snitching on? Im not trolling, i just didn’t understand your points. And im not sure cops tolerate prostitution more than drugs either

I’ve noticed many times that someone in the club will go out to the parking lot and meet with someone. Pretty sure it’s always some sort of drug deal. The strip club is just a place where skeezy people can hang out and conduct business without attracting attention. They’d be a bit more obvious at McDonalds.

dealers are a necessary evil. without the dealers, the girls would spend more than half their time looking for drugs.
as long as the dealers and their users are discreet, the club can feign ignorance as to the goings on.
i've seen dancers and dealers roll joints and lay out lines on the table in the past, and it's stupid.

even though dealers are a necessary evil, pimps on the other hand, should not be allowed in the club. they are parasites on the young and naive dancers and do nothing but take up space and collect money from the dancers that are already in the club.
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Clubs have more than one dealer. A lot of times it depends on the drug type. Rarely does one dealer carry everything. But competition between dealers is a main reason for club violence.

Pimps and hoes loiter enough to be familiar enough with criminals and criminal activity around them. Pimps will snitch on anyone from dealers to thieves in exchange for police leniency towards them and their hoes. It's very common. Snd it's also why you get a lot more drug busts than prostitution raids at clubs.

So pimps basically snitch on drug dealers in order to get cops to overlook their pimping? That’s interesting. Snitching on thieves is a good thing. Pimping in itself isnt automatically immoral the way thiefing is.
But what kind of thieves are they snitching on do you mean rob/scammer dancers? How would they recognize thieves in a strip club other than rob dancers? I dont think theres many thieves at clubs other than the robs

They snutch on anyone committing crimes in areas their hoes work. That's how blades start forming in cities and manage to keep operating. Burglaries car jackings and other crimes impact a pimps money.

But I think this is changing because since covid a major trend jas been traveling pimps and hoes. Going from city to city. In those cases they lack the roots and connections to know what's happening in the streets.

Its weird. Famous blades like Figueroa get out of state girls coming in just to wall the blade...

What is a blade? What do u mean by blades start forming. Im not up to date with these street terms

Wall the blade?

A lot of escorts travel because of clients. The ones on tryst and eros have entire tour dates. It gets them a lot more money. Theyre probably making crazy money some of them

Google it

None of this conversation takes into account the possibility the club management themselves could be drug dealers. That happened at a club I used to be a regular at, at least before the police busted them and they were forced to close.

“Rarely does one dealer carry everything”

There’s no “Cheesecake Factory” of drug dealers?

We must not let them dope fiends denigrate alcohol slinging with boobies.

You're more likely to find management using than dealing. And pimping girls is more common than selling them drugs when it comes to management.

Girls who use drugs usually seek out pimps coz they lack accountability and its a huge stress relief to not be responsible for anything. He takes care of all her needs and in her mind choosing up is being taken care of. It's getting more common because of the proliferation of fentanyl. It turns them into zombies.

I would assume drugs are consumed at most clubs; but ATL is an outlier IME – I don’t recall being in any other club where drug-use was a blatant as the old Follies where people would be rolling joints table-side – I’d say in most clubs I’ve been in, smoking weed is not allowed and the selling of drugs is even less obvious if it happens at all – in most clubs I don’t see anything resembling a drug-deal in the club and I’d assume most clubs would not allow it – I would think it’s more common for some dancers to have some limited supply they sell on the side to other dancers perhaps in the dressing-room; but I don’t think most clubs knowingly allow drug-dealers to set up shop but I could be wrong.

Also - if drug-dealers doing business in clubs was common, it would be mentioned in forums like StripperWeb and I don't recall that ever being mentioned over there.

Drug dealers are in all types of club's. Reason for this is. There are drug users in all clubs male and female.

Well it is better if you can get the drug dealers out. But it would be better if you could shut off drug use throughout our entire society. Very hard to do.

Often the doctor's prescription pad is the entry vehicle.

And our society lives by doctrines of denial, and this promotes drugs.

In the Organization I am building, drugs will not exist. But this will be a self select group, not the general population.

SJG

I've never touched any sort of illicit drug, it ain't for me. But years ago I was nervous about taking a dancer to VIP and she calmed my nerves by explaining that she bought coke from the bouncer that was working that day. He doesn't care about what happens in the back... I think this business model would work well, taking the transactions off the floor and making less obvious to LE but still having stuff available more discreetly.

As I stated earlier I don’t see them, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t there, the real question is whether or not management allows them or just looks away, my guess in the clubs I go to upper management and owners, don’t permit them, whether or not they actively seek to remove them is the real question.

Yesterday. A fucked up dealer in la got set up by a dancer and was robbed and killed...

Do you miss your baby daddy Icee?

How are dancers getting away with robbing and killing people icee?

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Papi

Maybe it’s just a Midwest thing, but here the dealers in the club have pills. Xanax, Adderall, Oxy

Seems a majority of the dancers are customers. That’s why it’s not obvious (rolling joints at the tables etc)

Moorhead. When they clamped down on those pills out here. Fentanyl came in to fill the void. I stay away from pill poppers. They blackout. Do shit they don't remember. Have seizures.

Behavior wise mixing coke and ecstasy makes them more fun. But too Manu over do it and end up passing out in the dressing room. Over heat...

My favorites were “good girl” types on the surface. But they all were pill poppers. I guess you never know. Sometimes I think because it’s a prescription drug, many folks think they’re safe.

I had some Vicodin after a root canal. I never had pain so never took any but happened to mention it to a dancer and she begged me to bring them to her the next week

They think that the pills are safe. But unless you get them from a pharmacy you really have no idea what's in them. They do anything to cut production costs.

But perceptions have a lot to do with drugs. Many weed dealers for wxample act like they're not drug dealers. But entrepreneurs and no different form a dispensary since weed is legal. And a lot of strippers believe that too.

Or meth. They'll hate on tweakers but think it's okay to smoke meth if they call it pokie. Coz it sounds cute to them.

Or even crack. They think it's an old people drug when someone is an addict. But a party drug when they do it.

I was with a girl who did percs before. It's like she was 2 different people. Sadly I liked the high one more

^of course she did percs. No woman on earth could stomach an asswipe like you if they weren't fucked up on serious drugs.

"Sometimes I think because it’s a prescription drug, many folks think they’re safe."

I don't know how people still think that. Research indicates that prescription drugs are very dangerous (big pharma, in general, is greedy and dangerous). Not to mention, some of the most deadly and addictive drugs are pharmaceuticals that can be aquired with a prescription... think of the opiod crisis; it's not just heroin; people are getting addicted to and overdosing from opiate pills. Furthermore, prescription opiates have been proven to be a "gateway drug" to heroin. Many heroin addicts started off as prescribed patients of opiate drugs. They get hooked on the opiates, and turn to heroin as a cheaper and easily available alternative to the opiate pills they are addicted to (even if they have a prescription and great insurance, once they're addicted that prescription will not sustain them as they will abuse it and run out of it quickly, get sick from not having it, get desperate and try heroin, which for many people ends up being a road from which they cannot return).

Also, withdrawal from benzos (xanax, valium, klonopin, etc) is extremely dangerous. Xanax especially has a short half life, leading to a very high potential for abuse, and is one of the few drugs whose withdrawal effects can be fatal. Another is alcohol. People heavily addicted to xanax or alcohol literally cannot quit without medical help because quitting cold turkey can lead to seizures/coma/death.

Fuck anyone who sells hard drugs, honestly. They're contributing to people's deaths, no way around that. People who sell weed (and other generally safe drugs like lsd or shrooms) I am totally fine with. People sell heroin and crack? They can fuck off. And bringing hard drugs into clubs absolutely makes those clubs much more dangerous environments for a variety of reasons.

At the end of the day, I do think all drugs should be decriminalized, though. If alcohol is legal, everything should be.

I think we forget to factor in the huge danger of giving the gubment more power. Yes, someone like Ted Bundy deserves to be executed, even drawn and quartered. But there lots of evidence the gubment often executes people who don't deserve, many who don't even deserve to be in jail. Bad as hard drugs are for most people who use them, there's more danger in the powers the gubment gets due to them being illegal. And what's "hard" is debatable. Seem ridiculous that weed is less legal than booze. Coke doesn't seem any worse than booze.

Some asshole was vaping weed in desires on Sunday....oh, wait .........that was me. Never mind.

All those pulls are harder to get. And there are clamp downs on heroin. Fentanyl is cheap and taking over. Prices are as low as 50 cents a pill now. And addicts will do as many a day as they can to avoid the excruciating withdrawals.

The drug situation sounds pretty bleak. All the more reason I say to run the drug dealers out of strip clubs.


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As recently discussed, I’m not too worried about enforcement action against weed that seems to be the primary recreational drug being consumed. City isn’t worried about it.

Seems like there are other kinds of drugs in play other places.

SJG