SACRAMENTO —Â
California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday signed a controversial bill to repeal a provision of state law that bans loitering for the intent to sell sex —
SACRAMENTO —Â
California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday signed a controversial bill to repeal a provision of state law that bans loitering for the intent to sell sex —
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last commentThat sounds awesome! Those laws were completely unconstitutional. Prostitution is a low level misdemeanor. If LE adhered to the doctrine of Due Process, it would likely be unenforcible. That was how most people saw it in the 70's. It was in the 80's when they came up with this guilty until proven innocent approach that they were able to crack down.
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THanks for this news Icey.
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Opponents like the California Family Council countered with their own online petition as part of a monthslong tug-of-war.
The American Civil Liberties Union of California sought the legislation along with several groups backing transgender sex workers and others in the sex industry. It has support from public defenders, Los Angeles County District Attorney George GascĂłn, San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin and numerous criminal justice reform groups. Voters recently recalled Boudin amid a campaign labeling him as soft on criminals.
The loitering law allows police "to criminalize otherwise legal activities like walking, dressing or standing in public," the ACLU said.
Moreover, workers who fear arrest for loitering "are more vulnerable to exploitation and violence, and face greater barriers to accessing safe housing and legal employment," the group argued.
The nonpartisan National Center on Sexual Exploitation took the opposite view, saying that ending the law would make it easier for traffickers and sex buyers to exploit vulnerable people.
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Young people want FWB, and most young males only want the B without the F
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They don't decriminalize solicitation though
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I agree with motorhead. And yes, Icee, they have not decriminalized solicitation. But there is no reason for anyone to do any solicitation. They also have not decriminalized prostitution, but that law is notoriously had to enforce.
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You think arresting tricks on the blade js hard?
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Enforcing the prostitution law is extremely hard. Usually the only way then can do it is by shredding the US Constitution.
And CA has not decriminalized working the blade. All they have done is lift a preposterous law saying people are loitering with intent to engage in prostitution. That was pretty much a status crime and hence unconstitutional.
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It's not hard.
Cops wait by the blade and set up traps for cars. Catch the tricks in action.
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Enforce the prostitution law?
So if they arrest someone what kind of evidence would they have?
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how many times have you been arrested ?
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Sjg you keep posting what if scenarios and theoretical examples.
With the new law a hooker can loiter and advertise on the blade. If a car pulls up and a known hooker enters that's solicitation. A cops word is evidence enough for cases like this.
Being generous and handing a hooker money us solicitation.
Arranging to meet someone for sex in exchange for money or goods is solicitation.
Laws are clear.
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If a car pulls up and a known hooker enters that's solicitation. A cops word is evidence enough for cases like this.
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That is patent bullshit. We don't live in a society where picking up a pretty girl on the sidewalk is a crime. And it is not a crime for a pretty girl to stand on the sidewalk either.
The loitering with intent law was just an attempt to codify completely unconstitutional practices. So State Senator Scott Wiener was absolutely right in submitting a bill to nullify it, and fortunately it passed.
This is not Saudi Arabia.
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Sjg if you ever talk to a judge like that you'll come across as an extremely paranoid trick who is guilty.
You can use as many buzz words as you want. Generosity giving a ride standing on the corner. But it doesn't change what's going on. And the law doesn't protect tricks.
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Trial By Jury!
And a case like you are describing, zero evidence, would get thrown out of court!
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Sjg that's not what would happen. You'll go in front ofva judge a cop will give his side and the judge will give you a fine
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Or in your case send you to a care court lulz
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^ You make SJG seem like Jesus. Please drink a nice tall glass of carbolic acid asshole.
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This seems to be the perfect discussion for Icee to stir the pot.
The more logic we use, the more perverse his arguments (against logic) will be.
I fully expect him to continue baiting the members with his bizarre arguments.
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Icee just wants to fight. It makes her real life seem less pathetic, because in here she is an "equal".
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Icee, prostitution is a misdemeanor, so you are entitled to a jury trial. Here it is a jury of 6. Unless all 6 can come to a unanimous verdict of guilt, then they cannot convict you.
Now true, most of the time in prostitution cases defendants are bullied into pleading guilty. They are afraid of the public exposure and the penalties really amount to nothing. But this is why Senator Scott Wiener authored SB-357, as police have been engaging in all manner of harassment and they have been arresting people with no real evidence.
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Icee, when the DA burns 6 jurors and can't get a conviction, they look foolish. Jury trial is what keeps the system honest. DAs, Cops, and Courts don't like to be publicly humiliated. So they drop cases which have no real evidence right off.
Would you really want this to be the kind of a society where picking up a woman on the sidewalk is a crime?
And as far as Care Courts, civil rights groups remain adamant in their opposition and they have testified at each committee hearing.
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Hope of blocking it is not lost. But as it does seem likely that it will pass, plans are being laid for adamant opposition at every juncture.
And this Susan Eggman is involved in Mental Health, Social Work, and Euthanasia because she gets off on persecuting family scape goats.
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These kinds of cases don't go to juries. Unless you have like 20k to waste on attorney fees or you understand court procedure and can afford filing costs etc. Then it's a waste of the courts time and the judge will be a lot more harsh with you.
Cashman. You call my posts here perverse. You're the one who likes shit on his dick and trolls clubs for cheap hookers.
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You will be assigned a Public Defender.
But the simple fact is, not even LE will pursue a case with no evidence.
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You only get a public defender if you're going to get jail time and are indigent
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When it comes to misdemeanors
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Totally untrue!
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Once named as a suspect you are entitled to a free attorney. For small cases you will usually meet a representative of the Public Defender's Office on the day of your arraignment, and you don't have to be indigent. Public Defenders routinely get bull shit cases dismissed at arraignment.
Most traffic citations are infractions and then you don't get to have a jury trial or a Public Defender.
If police arrest you without evidence, you can sue them.
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We are going to have Younger, Better Looking, and More Proactively Dressed SG!
All LE ever does is drive down the looks and the manner of dress in the SG until no one can take them seriously as hookers!
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You won't get a public defender for a misdemeanor without the da asking for jail time.
And the point of a public defender is to provide counsel for those who cannot afford it ie the indigent.
And you have to apply to procede in forma pauperis if you file things yourself in small cases
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You won't get a public defender for a misdemeanor without the da asking for jail time.
And the point of a public defender is to provide counsel for those who cannot afford it ie the indigent.
And you have to apply to procede in forma pauperis if you file things yourself in small cases
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Totally untrue. You are entitled to a public defender as soon as you are named as a suspect or charged. You can communicate with them at anytime. For most small cases you can meet with them on the day of your arraignment and they can try to get it dismissed. You do not have to be indigent or answer any questions about your finances. If not dismissed, they will prepare a defense for you as your trial date approaches.
And you are also entitled to represent yourself if you wish, indigent or not.
LE does not want to proceed with cases which have no evidence because they will get humiliated, and they could also be sued for false arrest.
THis is why CA and lots of places came up with this loitering with intent law because fairly enforcing the prostitution law is just about impossible.
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A public defender won't fight a citation.
You can represent yourself but unless you're indigent you'll pay court fees and just end up with a stiffer penalty for wasting the courts time lulz
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With a misdemeanor, which is what prostitution is, real arrest or citation arrest, you are entitled to a public defender.
You don't have to pay any court fees in a criminal trial.
And totally bogus cases get dismissed, and cops know not to make false arrests.
Consorting with someone who has a criminal record is not a crime, even with a woman with a prostitution record.
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The trick commits solicitation not prostitution. A guy caught with a hooker won't make some landmark case.
The new law protects prostitutes in that it gives them safe access to police and social workers. It doesn't protect tricks.
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They don't bring cases without evidence. And that is why we had this Loitering with Intent Law, so people could be arrested without evidence. But not it is gone!!!
The prostitution law is written so it applies equally to both sides. And so does the the soliciting law.
But there is no reason to solicit, and the prostitution law is just about impossible to enforce.
People can have safe access to social workers and police if that is what they really want. BUt for most sex workers that is the last thing they want.
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Being generous and giving the woman on the sidewalk in a shut uniform money to get her off script and pump loads into her is solicitation
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On the sidewalk, even if one is technically within the law, one needs to be discreet. When approaching a woman for the first time, often a tactful and sincere comment about something she is wearing is a good place to start. Introducing yourself, letting her know what brings you to that place that day helps, and at some point letting her know what you do for a living, and at some point a business card. Out on the sidewalk you might try to take her to lunch.
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" letting her know what brings you to that place that day helps,"
Youre there to pay her for sex....I think they already know that
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^ I certainly don't talk like that, and I don't relate to women like that.
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Translation: never talked to a woman except when asking if he can clean her windshield.
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What reason do you have talking to hookers on the blade other than soliciting them?
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To perhaps engage with them somehow, see if they are someone I might want to know. It isn't buying sex because if anything happens it will be because she and I hit it off.
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^ Its really just socializing.
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The only engagement you're getting is squeegeeing their windshields.
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"It isn't buying sex because if anything happens it will be because she and I hit it off."
I find a few hundred make me hit it off with a lot of strippers. I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Lulz.
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THis video is good.
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Locally our SG are not that attractive, and they don't really dress sexy. That's why when you find a good one it is so striking.
San Francisco is a lot better. And these videos make Los Angeles look a lot better.
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THis is good too, inside some of the clubs.
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Tetra, I'm not one to try and "buy" women. Money is just a show of care and concern, and of respect.
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I think you were arrested for solicitation so now you're extremely paranoid about straight out saying you pay hookers.
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Ha Ha Ha
I treat sex workers just like I would any other women, but I especially like the way they dress.
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^ Sex workers are like any other women. Except they're sex workers. That's very Zen. Lulz.
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Yeah but I don't relate to them as sex workers, I relate to them as I would any other woman.
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^ Except that you give them money and they give you sex. Which is what one coincidentally does to sex workers to get them to have sex.
But it's different with you. They say the traumatized reenact their traumas.
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Yeah but it doesn't go the way you say. In the vast majority of situations women who no longer live with their parents are getting money, material, or social benefit through the men they fuck.
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^ I don't take examples of any interaction with women from someone who obviously has so little of it.
Icee and I aren't exactly buddies, but he is living in reality on this topic. You are detached from it.
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Sjg. Would you be okay with her thanking you for your generosity and leaving without having sex with you? Do you show generosity to women other than hookers?
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Why do you have to be discreet when approaching women with generosity on the sidewalk if you're not doing anything illegal?
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Passing out tips on the sidewalk is not something I have ever done. Probably would not do it that way. But in strip clubs front room off stage tips like that for sure.
You can't bargain them into anything. Doesn't work that way.
And Tetra I am completely in tune with how sex workers and other women operate.
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Why would you have to be discreet passing out tips on the sidewalk?
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I can think now of a time I wish I'd given out a nice sidewalk tip to an SG. I wish I had.
If she didn't want anything more to happen that would be okay with me. It's just a gratuity, like in a strip club. I liked the way she was dressed and painted up. Long dress, little bit skimpy, and strapped on high heels. Stealth Hooker. Could take her anywhere right then.
I know she would have wanted something to happen, cause of how she approached and was talking to me. Just back myself up against the wall and pull her to me and continue smooth talking her and our FRMOS would begin.
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If you wanted a jury trial a da would call up a mental hdalth expert if you talked like that in court.
And you're basically just saying you wish you had paid the prostitute for a gfe
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No you are wrong. She really stirred something in me, just by her looks and manner. I had been in a night club, and not seen her, but she followed me out onto the sidewalk.
No, I was not free to do this then, but if I were I wish I'd of engaged with her. I'd of been generous, but that was because I liked her.
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I understand you. Calling me a creep for doing so is....
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You act like sex is immoral or illegal.
And you act like giving a woman money is immoral or illegal. These things are not so.
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Solicitation is illegal though. And you're so anti mental health coz of your paranoia about treatment you've received.
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There is no solicitation in anything I have described.
I am 100% opposed to the mental health system. So I would never be stupid enough to get caught in it, not with out taking a bunch of other lives.
Icee, you are not coherent.
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"But talking about
mental illnessis a Keyboard Koward move. No one would let you do that F2F without just telling you to STFU."All your talk about blowing people's heads off with shotguns, blowing them up, incinerating them if they said not nice things to you is the ultimate "keyboard koward" shit.
I doubt you could afford a shotgun. Lulz.
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I do defend the privacy of my f2f life. And sometimes that does mean having to step through blood and muck.
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Sjg you're so paranoid you come on here trying to word things using idiotic buzz words thinking you're being clever and talking about hookers using some secret code the legal system doesn't know about.
What's incoherent is you describing your experiences with hookers using code words while compulsively posting about fiats and alien death beams.
And you threaten to murder people and authorities who would take you in to a care court or on a welfare check.
You'll tell us all about your marriage and sex life but will kill us if we ask you how your day is.
You're a poster child for why we need a viable mental health system
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Bullshit Icee, you are the paranoid one. I am very coherent in what I have related.
And I do protect my f2f life, and sometimes that does mean having to step through blood and muck.
Care court is an idiotic idea and if it passes will be unenforceable and a laughing stock.
I have shared much, but no I do not take question about my f2f life.
We need to eradicate the mental health system and prosecute its practitioners.
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Have you killed anyone with half a brain?
Your paranoia is obvious to anyone with half a brain.
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Have you killed anyone yet?
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^ My f2f life is private and protected. Only someone with no more than half a brain, and probably suicidal too, would ever challenge it.
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"Have you killed anyone yet?"
No, because with the trail of confessions he's left here, he'd be in San Quentin getting traded by Bubba, Carlos, and Jamal for honey buns.
Really, no one goes after him because going after people for disrespect on the internet is so 1990s. He's not important enough to go after.
I could say no one tests my F2F defenses because everyone is frightened of what I could do to them but I don't have grandiose paranoid delusions of my importance to the universe.
Now maybe if I created an organization with fewer porkers, I'd need a T-Squad of elite enforcers.
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Sjg admits to everything on here. But thinks talking in code or lashing out makes him look smart and mysterious.
How busy can your f2f life be when you spend your days making cryptic comments about hookers. Alien death beams. Fits. Math. And a make-believe sex cult. On here.
That's what you do all fucking day. It's not a secret.
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Do what you want but the craziness gets annoying af
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The idea of any man woman or child being afraid of a fucked-up loser like SJG made me laugh for 2 hours.
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I've been on this board a long time and I've posed a lot of material about myself. But it is filtered, my face to face life is buffered and protected.
But that does not mean that there aren't some imbeciles on this board who get off on challenging and attacking the privacy of my f2f life. For these Keyboard Kowards all I can say is, live on the Internet if you want. Because f2f you would not last long.
And things will be better in CA now that the loitering with intent law is lifted.
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If someone doxed you wherever you spend your day on the computer you'd kill them?
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Icey you are a stalker, and you are suicidal. I can tell, you like looking down 12 gauge muzzles. You get off on that. The proximity of your death is the only way you can feel alive, and even if that means it won't last much longer.
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if this bill is passed more than likely this is ONLY to not arrest women but to arrest johns that request sex. Women go free, john goes to jail for intent to buy sexual favors. Seen this before. Might as well not change the law.
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Tiburon, what you are talking about is the Nordic Model. This CA law is not like this. It is not that liberal, not decriminalizing any facet of prostitution or soliciting. Just lifting an unconstitutional law which criminalized loitering with intent. And it has passed already !!
So really it is now just about impossible to enforce the law against prostitution, as it was in the 1970's. There is no reason to ever solicit a woman.
Seattle, also looking pretty good, much better than San Jose.
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Tiburon. That's exactly what they're doing. Arresting tricks. And it's also to help girls not be afraid of reporting crimes to the police. Gets them help with addictions. Access to social workers.
Sjg so have you killed anyone yet?
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Tiburon, what Icey posted is untrue.
There is no easy way to arrest tricks in this, just the end of an unconstitutional law which was getting money busted for being nice looking dressing sexy.
And it has nothing to do with girls reporting crimes to police or getting help with their addiction or access to social workers. There has been no lessening of the laws against prostitution or soliciting.
Amnesty International says that to protect sex workers it should be decriminalized. It isn't.
And as far as help with addictions, that has nothing to do with this. And the vast majority of sex workers want zero contact with social workers.
And Icey do you like to suck on 12 gauge muzzles too?
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Seattle, also looking pretty good, much better than San Jose. The key is to get them in stripper shoes, strapped on, painted up, and in skirts or dresses. They they are the equal of strip club, Viet Coffee, or AMP girls. The rest of what they wear does not matter is it won't be staying on very long.
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"But that does not mean that there aren't some imbeciles on this board who get off on challenging and attacking the privacy of my f2f life"
There you go with your fantasies of being magnetic or interesting. No one is attacking you. As a matter of fact, when I close this window, I don't think about you. Or anyone here other than the Desire crowd when I'm there.
Your bitch ass couldn't afford internet access during a pandemic. Therefore I doubt you could afford a 12 gauge.
Keep up with your delusions of being something other than a complete loser who is obsessed with this board as your only outlet to the outside world.
No one is coming to your library kiosk, Walter Mitty.
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"As a matter of fact, when I close this window, I don't think about you."
And how I wish your bitch ass really would stop talking about me, acting like you know things about me which you do not. You are a Keyboard Koward with nothing better to do than post total BS and negative personal attacks.
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^ Lol, look at who's a victim now that he's been called out on his hardo talk.
All I need to know is how many hours you spend here, and how central this site is to your sense of self and your interaction with the outside world. Shit, you started a thread to brag about having the most posts here, you sad sack. That's all I care to know. Your other stories and cries for validation are background noise. Because you're so uninteresting.
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Tetradon, all you are posting is negative meta narrative, personal attack. You are a Keyboard Koward with nothing better to do.
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^ Because I call you out on polluting the board with threats?
If Founder didn't have some inexplicable soft spot for you, every IP from a San Jose public library would be fucking banned.
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Tetradon, I do protect my f2f life. And the results of that are not usually going to be pretty.
You on the other hand are an idiotic troll which has nothing better to do than post personal attacks. Go soak you head, and keep it underwater until you have something worthwhile to say.
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Sjg you're a keyboard coward threatening to kill people.
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SJG, I have never threatened anyone here. You think anyone here is afraid of you? Everyone here thinks you're a feebleminded loser who has failed at every aspect of life.
Your F2F life of endless hours on a strip club website isn't worth attacking. You desperately want someone to "attack" you, and validate that your life has meaning. Sorry, Walter Mitty. I won't oblige you.
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I protect my personal life, and what I do is no different from what the CIA does.
You online belligerents are Keyboard Kowards.
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"You online belligerents are Keyboard Kowards."
Your lack of self awareness is amazing, child.
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I'm not an online belligerent, I have more important things to do, and to think about.
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^ Like different ways to threaten imaginary threats to your library kiosk. Lulz.
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Tetradon, I am not an online troll who tries to pick fights with people.
Sure I defend my f2f life. But I also maintain a privacy wall. Otherwise I would have to be shot gunning trolls day and night.
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^ You pick fights here 35 hours a week. And can't afford a shotgun.
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Now, I respond to people who try to pick fights and attack my f2f privacy with siege scaffolds.
About 8 hours a week I think. I wish such people, like you Tetradon, would just SFTU or put me on ignore.
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^ No one is. Because no one cares. You're just a joke here.
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"I have more important things to do, and to think about."
Like spamming a strip club forum with posts about alien death beams. How to start a car. Coded cryptic posts about hookers. Threatening public officials because of mental health programs. And threatening to kill anyone who asks about the last time you went to a club.
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These guys have got themselves a fun job, making these everyday!
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What about your make believe sex cult? Have you sewn anyone's ass shut or just shoot them?
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Icee you stupid retard. How many times do I have to tell you that my f2f life is private. And I have never threatened any public official, but I have made clear my opposition to the mental health system and to the covid response.
I post great stuff, its just that trolls like yourself a few others intimidate people who would like to respond to it.
You are a huge troll!
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You threaten people and cacaplop doesn't respond he just trolls and mocks you with his profiles.
You keep talking about killing people. Why not answer if you have?
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I have never threatened anyone. My f2f life is private and PROTECTED.
I do not take questions about my f2f life.
You icee have liked about this change in CA law. But you are so stupid that that kind of stuff is to be expected.
I think you like to suck on shot gun muzzles. Only thing which makes sense.
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Telling people you'll kill them or sew their ass shut is threatening them.
Calling me a retard means you believe in mental illness
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Icee I have never threatened anyone. You have made a serious threat against a very high ranking public official. You are an idiot.
ANd you called me a retard. Otherwise I do not talk like that.
And I do protect my f2f life and there are not limits to what that might entail.
You post all kinds of stuff about me and someone might think it has some basis in fact, in something I have posted. It does not. YOu are trying to build siege scaffolds to attack my privacy. I burn such scaffold down daily.
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Telling people you'll kill them is threatening them
Calling me a retard means you're aware of the term and it's connotations. You believe in it since you use it as an insult
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I do protect my F2F life.
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^ Fun discussion life on the blade, by two certified losers LULZ
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^ Only 5 more hours of protecting your library computer today. What's that shadow in the background?
Oh wait, it's a cloud. False alarm.
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My f2f life is protected. And I douse siege scaffolds in kerosene and burn them down.
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Lets try and figure out where these videos are being made.
Figueroa under some names runs from up way north of Los Angeles, to all the way to the Long Beach Harbor.
Now people like Club Rio, and I can see why:
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But from prior convs on this board I hear that the SG zone is not down near it.
From the videos we see that they are about 1 block from a freeway sound wall.
And that would look to be the Harbor Freeway, 110.
Now LA is basically divided up by freeways. There is a roughly square area whey call Fashion District, Skid Row, Arts District. This is where all the hostess dancing clubs are, or were. Tropical Club is just on a south freeway edge outside of this.
So I think the SG zone is somewhere within a 9 mile stretch running from this Skid Row zone to Club Rio.
So the street sign definitely says "Figueroa" and a sub sign says "S" and I think an address number.
Got it!
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8120 S Figueroa St, Los Angeles, CA 90003
This is where the two girls are standing.
The little cross street is between W 81st St and W. 82nd St, but I don't know that it even has a name.
Here a cross steet sign says 82nd St
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And here, opposite a manhole cover is the damage to a retaining way close to where the girls were standing.
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Across Figueroa there is a Thrift Store, and Vasquez Smog Check Center, 8101
I remain surprised as I was in the video by how much of this is residential.
So Figueroa is West of the 110 Harbor Freeway, and north of W. Manchester and S. of W. Florence.
Its about 4 miles south of that Fashion District and Topical Club, South Los Angeles, Avalon Gardens, and near one Parlour Motel w/ Free Internet.
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Also a 4 star motel next to it.
And Ambassador motel across the street a little further South.
and about 200 ft south of the girls Sunrise Motel, and then New Bay, and the Palms Motel.
8480 S. Figueroa St.
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Neighborhood looks like some of the older more worn areas of San Jose, all though San Jose has been through extensive efforts to clean up and gentrify. Sam Liccardo is huge force in that.
W. Figueroa and W. Manchester. Cash Advance store, the most predatory type of lending.
Tam's Burger, #34. Looks pretty good. Not sure if I could bring in a girl dressed like the one in purple. But maybe. Maybe give her my coat to wear, and another one tide around her hips. Walk her in with my arm around her and get her seated. That should shut people up. "She's with me, that's all you need to concern yourself with her."
Locally SJ does not have SG like this, and I am not aware that SF or Oakland do either.
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You have no life. You just copy and post shit that's not even true. No real experiences that aren't 15 years old.
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WHACK!
That is what happens Icee when you try to ignore my privacy wall and charge at it like it weren't there.
Now I am going to have to come out with Clorox and a wire scrub brush and get your blood of lymph fluid off of my wall.
When there are more SG, then it will be more competitive and so there will be more in stripper heels. And also as the lifting of the loitering with intent law is felt, they won't have to keep moving so much. They'll be able to just stand around leaning against walls. So Figureoa will be betting even better, and maybe other places in the state getting to be just like it.
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^ Funny, for everyone who splatters blood and lymph and whatever against your privacy wall, ten seconds later we're posting like it never happened.
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That's because you go back to online and to what is outside of my privacy enclosure.
No one ever gains anything by attempting to violate the privacy of my f2f life.
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^ Naah, you're just uninteresting. And have been figured out by Icee, myself, and just about anyone else on this board who hasn't blocked you.
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My privacy is sacrosanct. I just have to clean my wall off from time to time, and to burn down a few siege scaffolds to.
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^ No one is attacking it, unless they've run out of Ambien.
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Well they better find something besides Ambien, because attacking my privacy wall is dangerous.
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This girl little bit older and heavier, looks a little more garish. She has an appeal because she gets out there and shows her stuff. Full height stripper shows and lots of makeup, but not much else.
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^ Dangerous if you're operating a motor vehicle or been drinking.
It should carry a warning label. "Contents within may prove a resounding disappointment."
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Very true, my privacy wall is not intended to draw sappers. It is intended that they are either discouraged away, or burned to a crisp.
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This girl little bit older and heavier, looks a little more garish. She has an appeal because she gets out there and shows her stuff. Full height stripper shows and lots of makeup, but not much else.
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^ You discourage them by throwing so goddamn much outside of them. And spending so many hours here.
Congratulations. It's working.
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I certainly hope so. I don't mind having to shot gun a few trolls. But I don't like having to step through so much blood and mess.
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This girl little bit older and heavier, looks a little more garish. She has an appeal because she gets out there and shows her stuff. Full height stripper shows and lots of makeup, but not much else.
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^ LOL If you actually shotgunned anyone for "trolling," with all the confessions you've made here, you'd be getting your ass pounded in San Quentin.
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For transgressing against my privacy wall.
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This girl little bit older and heavier, looks a little more garish. She has an appeal because she gets out there and shows her stuff. Full height stripper shows and lots of makeup, but not much else.
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^ I'm sure that would make all the difference in the world to the jury.
Like a wise philosopher once said, Bad Boys move in silence and violence.
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I do defend my f2f life. And afterwards there is no one around to criticize.
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^ Who from here, since you spend so much time here and are as popular as air dances? Name names.
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I am always ready with whatever I will need, and I never work alone.
Once I made the mistake of terminating a troll, when I should have also cremated him. As such, now he is an active zombee.
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This girl little bit older and heavier, looks a little more garish. She has an appeal because she gets out there and shows her stuff. Max height stripper shows and lots of makeup, but not much else.
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^ So it's more of a metaphysical troll destruction? Where they can't tell they've been killed? Or they resurrect again and again?
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It is only some trolls that are likely to become animated again as zombies. With most this never happens.
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^ I'll come back as a vampire. That would be pretty kick-ass.
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Well that would only be if you are sucking people's blood now, or if you are killed by a vampire.
Either way, high temperature cremation is the best preventative.
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^ You aren't inside my privacy wall, son. Maybe I already am.
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I also maintain a web of Claymore Mines outside my privacy wall. They are set off when infrared beams are broken.
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^ I've got mirrors. Illusions. You never know whether you're in or out. I won't flip out or overreact. Poker face.
All I know is I'm more likely to be a blood guzzling creature of the night then you are to have blown anyone here's head off. See you in ~15 hours. Lulz.
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Skg youre bordering schizophrenic salad talk
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And Icey, you are the morose and apocalyptic schizophrenic.
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there will be more in stripper shoes as the new CA legal change is assimilated. More on the street, more competitive, and more standing around and leaning against walls.
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^ You just admitted mental illness exists!
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Sjg how come you believe in mental illness now???
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I was paraphrasing Deleuze and Guattari. Clinical Schizophrenia and Mental Illness are created in the mental health system. But a kind of schizo talk is what moves our society along. It is created by capitalism.
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You wouldn't have used it as a derogatory attack if you didn't know what it is and didn't believe it exists
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Schzo experience exists, it is created by Capitalism. It is what moves society forward, as in surrealistic art and literature.
But of clinical mental illness, the appearance of this is created in the mental health system, and it is not really mental illness. There is no such thing as mental illness. There are only its symptoms.
The sooner we eradicate all vestiges of the mental health system the better.
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Icee you cant beat SJG. His meyers Briggs was INTJ which is one of the rarest kinds, 1% the population. It’s called the “evil mastermind”. SJG might have you wrapped around his thumb already, everything you say is being predicted and countered before you even say it
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I'm an INTJ who has been wildly successful in my scheme to keep SJG off this site on mornings, nights, Sundays, and California public holidays.
My results are indisputable.
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^ True, really INTJ? I might have asked about your MBTI before.
Mikeya02 posted about a girl on stripper web saying that she is smarter than 95% of her customers.
That could well be so. Not every woman is well suited to be a sex worker, at least not one what services everyone.
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Then why did you call me mentally ill if it doesn't exist?
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You called me a retard, so I called you one.
"And Icey, you are the morose and apocalyptic schizophrenic."
You will have to read Deleuze and Guattari. This does not mean Clinical Schizophrenia. It means the schizo talk which is created by capitalism. And when it is molar instead of molecular, it always sounds apocalyptic and morose.
Sometimes in the Gospel, Jesus sounds like this. These were not his best times.
Everyone should read this:
It is in division 4
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Figueroa will be getting better now that CA has lifted the loitering with intent law
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There will be more in stripper shoes as the effects of lifting the loitering with intent law plays out.
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So you know what a retard is and believe they exist
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Breonna Taylor was a retard, but no longer exists lol.
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I don't talk that way Icee, you do, so I repeated it back to you.
Their newest one:
And why is it that we need strip clubs when this is a public street lined with motels!
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Just up!
Both Tijuana Clubs and Figueroa:
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newest one:
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This has got to be the best one:
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Now that CA has lifted the loitering with intent law it should be getting this good regularly.
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Oh No, those guys who made most of the above videos just got their youtube account terminated!
Figureoa, after dark, a lot more stripper heels, probably because they do less walking and more standing around.
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daytime, less stripper heels
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night time, more stripper shoes
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Arizona, daytime
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New one, fair number of daytime ones in stripper heels.
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They still arrest anyone with a warrant or who has a record of charges.... while doing welfare checks
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Cops do that anywhere anyway.
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Icey, it is like Senator Wiener, explained, his bill changes nothing about the prohibitions on prostitution and soliciting. It just lifts the highly unconstitutional loitering with intent law.
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It would be fun to reside in this area, at least sometimes.
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Nice
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Be fun to live here, at least for a while.
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We don't have SG like this in the Bay Area
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Figueroa, seems to be more stripper heels after dark.
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THis is good:
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also:
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This is good too:
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These guys make good Los Angeles videos
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Seattle Night Time
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You think desperate women selling pussy in the streets is a nice site??
Oh wait they're just normal women in slut uniforms waiting for generosity so they can give girlfriend auditions 🤡
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They are ordinary women, in slut uniforms, and they will be ordinary women with you if you treat them that way.
Sure they are a nice site, not necessarily desperate, not anymore so than anyone else.
Stripper heels and slut uniform, walking right past police on foot.
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If they weren't desperate they wouldn't be selling pussy on public streets.
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Look at the videos, they don't look desperate to me.
To bad those two brothers who were making the videos got their youtube account canceled. They were talking to the girls at the car windown.
And the last thing SG would care to hear is that they are desperate. A whole lot of the population, all walks of life, are in financial desperation.
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You're too out of touch with reality. Or you're good at playing stupid. Women don't sell pussy on the streets without being desperate.
And of course they put on an act for tricks. It's part of what they pay for.
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This law came about because of how dangerous it is for women out there. So they could get help without fear.
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Well sure, we don't expect an out of touch mentally ill psychotic with a sewn shut asshole that lives in a box under a bridge to understand that the only reason most of those walkers are out there is because they're junkies and desperate for a fix.
It's not too often that iceydougee is right about anything but he is right at least 1 more time than you'll ever be.
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^^^ Totally untrue, most of those girls have stripper grade looks.
And the law against prostitution came about because of Victorian Age reformers. Basically they want to regulate who could have sex with who.
And this "help" is the last thing any of these women would ever want.
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BTW, iceydougee should know, he's probably the one selling them the drugs lulz
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I'm talking about the law making it legal to loiter with intent to prostitute. Its because of how dangerous it is and let them know they can get help safely.
Gang affiliated pimps are taking over Figueroa forcing girls to choose up. Tricks rape and rob girls. There's shootings and violence. Girls rob and attack other girls out of competition.
But in you're head you're like "duh duh slut uniforms I can pay them duh duh "
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No way in he'll hookers think you're normal
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If we want to protect sex workers we need to listen to what Amnesty International says, decriminalize prostitution.
The Scott Wiener bill was just the elimination of a highly unconstitutional pack of nonsense. A police state on how women dress.
The last thing sex workers want is any of this "help".
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Again stop the what if scenarios snd deal with reality. This law was enacted to help protect them. Not to make it easier for tricks. They still get arrested.
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^said the male hooker who charges 14 cents.
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No, the Scott Wiener bill has nothing to do with anyone getting any kind of "help", it is simply to restore their basic rights so they can't be hassled when they have done nothing wrong.
As I see in the videos, there are on Figueroa lots of cops on foot, that should help cut down on problems from pimps or gangs.
But if our SG are also going to have to deal with "Help Workers", then likely they will have to start carrying shotguns.
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It's to help hookers. Get them the help they need without fear of arrest. That's why all the welfare checks now. And coz of how dangerous it's getting for them.
The cops you see in yhe videos do welfare checks for the hoes
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Women on the street should be protected by police. And what Amnesty International recommends to minimize abuse of sex workers is full decriminalization of sex work.
Scott Wiener would want this. He would want full decriminalization. But as he explains it, he bill changes nothing about the laws on soliciting and prostitution.
All it does is lift a most unconstitutional provision which made it possible for cops to harass people before they had done anything wrong. This idea "loitering with intent."
And the last thing sex workers would ever want is any of this "help".
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The police are protecting them via welfare checks. Access to social workers. A safe space to get help or get away from pimps etc.
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I've seen pimps bullying girls on E. Santa Clara St. in San Jose. The police protect the women by walking around with handcuffs and a badge.
If the women want to talk to social workers they can.
What Scott Wiener's bill does is nothing to decriminalize prostitution, soliciting, or as you say working the blade. It just revokes a highly unconstitutional statue imposed in the early 80's, this loitering with intent.
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No one wants to make it easy on tricks they still get arrested. No one wants to be easy on them.
These bills are social measures to protect sex workers
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Icee you’re criticizing SJgs generosity approach but you’ve posted about “tipping” a dancer $800 for free to get her to like you more and get her jaw to drop. And how you gave dancers big tips for no reason and then they’d fondle you in dances afterwards. So you also used a generosity approach. That confirms you’ll just disagree with anything just for the sake of disagreeing.
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I get fondled without tipping. I tip when I want to. Not to be a dumb trick.
Sjg is a paranoid weirdo talking I'm code. All he says is he pays for gfes
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No Icey, they are legal reforms to protect all of our civil rights.
Icey, you are a dumb trick.
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Sjg you're too stupid to even see all bte does is troll you and nice spice manipulated you.
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No Icey, neither of those two seem obscessed with manipulating me the way you and some others are.
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They manipulated you
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Icey, your brain is so addled with chemicals that you can't talk, so you have to employ your asshole.
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Do they hold you down when then put psych meds up your ass?
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If that ever happened you would see on TV news what happened to the people who tried to do that.
You need some serious asshole plugging.
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