Brand New Car or an equivalent dollar value of Dances?
A buddy was being a pest saying that I could have bought a new car with the money that I "wasted" on dancers. I drive a friend's very old beat up car, btw.
I thought his statement mentally challenged to say the least. I asked him what do you think I'd rather have a brand new car or a bunch of dances? He says the new car of course! Geez, what a waste of good money, imo. I'd rather the dancers get the new car.
So new car or dances? :) (I'm assuming new car wins, btw.)
I thought his statement mentally challenged to say the least. I asked him what do you think I'd rather have a brand new car or a bunch of dances? He says the new car of course! Geez, what a waste of good money, imo. I'd rather the dancers get the new car.
So new car or dances? :) (I'm assuming new car wins, btw.)
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Too much spending this year, no doubt
That is a very nice looking car. :) Well, if you had a good time and it was within budget . . . damn, it is difficult to argue against fun unless there is some serious downside. Looking back, I usually regret not spending the money not that I had much to spare. But, I remember the special girls that just don't come around too often and they were a lot more valuable to me than the money. Yes, every once in awhile I got a bad deal. But, it seems so little in comparison that it is like count your blessings. Heck, you can even get a bad deal at Burger King. ;)
I'm surprised so far the girls are winning. :)
Now if I start posting sports car equivalence using the true italian jobs, for example like:
http://www.dieselstation.com/wallpapers/…
Now at that level of spending, that would be really be dumb, although technically I could handle that too w/o any problems
Now if someone offered me a choice as a prize, I would take the car and probably sell it. Then invest some of the money and spend the rest as I pleased. Probably some on dances.
Think of it like Spinach. ;)
I've been driving different cars for years that I didn't own. In the latest case the friend wanted a new car, but didn't want to lose his old car. He had become attached to it.
It was funny a friend let me borrow his car and started apologizing before he even handed over the keys! :) He is doing me a huge favor and yet has some wacked out idea that he needs to apologize to the person he is doing the favor for!? Talk about completely crazy---he got screwed by the courts also, BIG TIME!!! :(
Anyway, he let me borrow his old Ford--don't remember the model--he had just paid it off about a month earlier and was very ***PROUD*** that he had paid his debt off in full. Like he has won the Super Bowl or something magnificent. He HATED the car though (for very good reason, I later learned). :( As luck would have it at the same time he made his final car payment he got a beautiful ray of sunshine amongst gloom and doom and terror of an incredibly evil corrupt court system. The beautiful ray of sunshine? A dream job from a medium sized company that he was well qualified to do. The boss and him just seem to hit off as did he and the co-workers. A brand new red sports car at company expense?! Proof positive in his opinion that there must be a God who said this poor guy has wrongly suffered enough. He needs a little help from the man in the Heavens. He says to me "What other explanation could there be for all this good fortune falling into my lap!??? It is God saving me. Honestly. God knows how much abuse you can take and if you believe he will save you. A red sports car AT COMPANY EXPENSE? That has to be the Lord's work. :)" It wouldn't occur to him that busting his butt, sending out resumes, getting qualified, making an excellent impression at the interview, working hard in the past, etc. etc. etc. had some small minor remote role. Oh well, he was a sweet guy and really didn't push his religion that hard. His story to the best of my knowledge ended very happy with complete freedom from the abuse of a vile corrupt evil stupid insane court system.
***Did he "blame the system"? Actually, he did. :) He blamed it a lot, whine, whine, whine (almost 10% as bad as me) and he was 100% correct. Better than that he did try positive approaches to try and reform the system. He wasn't lazy at all. He got working with some Christian politician and of course lots of work, but the fraud and corruption not even dented. Screw reform! :) My other "reform minded" buddy who called and is still working for one modest reform or another, I told him that very thing just a few days ago, plus I don't give a damn one way or the other----good or bad. :) He is one of these God will save you types also, but even less preachy----supposedly according to the vile government he was involved in some serious drug traffic----of course, I don't know that he was innocent, but in years and years and years of knowing him he seems more like a paternalist. The government needs to tell you what to do, what to think, what to consume, all for your own well being and healthy happy families. Drugs = BAD!!! Government needs to be protector in all respects for everyone. :(
Strip clubs for these 2 buddies? Well, the man with the red sports car believes you can only have fun with a woman AFTER marriage and you're only supposed to have one marriage and one wife. Not a good candidate. He says do the stippers want to get and stay married? ;) The other man would be like do the strippers want to reform the system? He was banging this lady that I know *for free* and she says he could be a porn star, but all he cares about is politics. She says I care about politics too, but not 24 hours a day. She says to me tell him I'm available *anytime any hour* if he doesn't want to talk politics. :) He sure as heck doesn't look like a porn star and he also believes looks are irrelevant. Must be in the Bible somewhere.
I'll give you my address if you're offering.
Now obviously some women appreciate fine cars. A few decades back there was this regular (non-strip) semi-upscale club that I lived not far from, so I would drop by 2 or 3 times a week, and the (middle aged) owner would show up (lets say every few weeks,) and he would pull up front, and he would always have TWO beautiful girls with him, one on each arm walking in - there was no valet service, but he would have one of the bouncers park the his car and he would rotate his cars - one day a ROLLS ROYCE, then a JAG, and then a top end MERCEDES BENZ - he was short but with his half tint glasses and sort of this (italian actor) Marcello Mastroianni look to him - it made quite an impression on customers when he showed up.
By the way, this owner was a real prick, borderline mobster type (owned many parking garages too, always cash businesses etc) - but he of course he got the women
This is a picture of a JAG and it should be the YEAR 2008 STRIP CLUB SPENDING - CAR EQUIVALENT budget goal for every serious PL
I keep thinking I want to do that, and I keep not doing it.
Right, but that JAG in the picture is FULLY depreciated already
If the goal is a decent sports car but mostly a showy care, this used JAG convertible (cited above) will probably sell for merely the dealer setup cost of a new $360,000 Lamborghini - maybe 9k to 10k or less, and yet it has much of the prestige value, if that's what you want
Just the dollar/euro change this year or so, actually put the Lamborghini up another 30 to 40k
Of course nothing matches a Lamborghini, except maybe Ferrari and Aston Martin and a few others, but you can do very well today at very low cost with (relatively) exotic cars
My theory about luxury items (assuming you really like these things) - is to try to get 90% of the benefit at less than 10% of the cost, and JAGS while not technically the best cars, do have a certain cache, and probably the highest relative to price.
Same thing with boats which can be incredibly expensive to own and operate, buy small or maybe mid-size up to for example 50k, and then go to boat shows and hang out on the big ones that cost to 300 to 500k to own and get it out of your system - same principal, get 90% of the benefit at 10% of the cost, and put the rest of the cash in the bank
Having only owned a (non-exotic) american made convertible years back, one has to admit in early evenings when the weather is warm, these cars are amazing IF ONLY because women love them. However there is of course also a definite X factor with a convertible that is hard to quantify.
JAGS do have a history of high maintainence, however it terms of the what I would call the KICK/COST ratio - they are hard to beat, by "kick" I mean just the overall sports car vibe they give off. Porsche for example is a way better road car and better built car, but you won't find them cheap, and strangely enough they have become somewhat commonplace today, often don't even seem exotic.
The beauty of a used JAG that's imperfect is the fact that you don't have to worry about it that much, simply because the investment is very low, yet you get an exotic type of car and usually a minimally decent driving car.
Now as for the true high end italian sport cars, I've known only one person that did have a Lamborghini, and they can never be used like regular cars, and except for the super-rich perhaps, one will have to constantly worry about it, where they park it, who works on it, and insurance costs of course are out of sight, and prsent an entire series of specialized issues - but some do get great enjoyment out of these cars despite great cost and worry, and that's an intangible hard to value sometimes. At least unlike a (equivalent cost) boat or sailboat, you can put it in a garage safely every night, and you won't be at the mercy of hurricanes and storms