Dancers who dont offer OTC

No

Datin, he's trolling. He's filling the board with a myriad of stupid questions using a few repetitively regurgitated faulty assumptions in order to get people to bite.

Mr dugan thats not true
Please just advise man...
Its a different subject
Please

if your intention is OTC and you were VAGUELY promised, then yeah I'd feel stupid. Its time you start asking and expecting direct answers. No direct answers means no direct OTC access. Your just "easy" money to these ladies otherwise. Can't say I've been in your position because I don't get lapdances with a hidden expectation of OTC.

Of course Dougster is trolling. But the topics are still better than right wing politics bargaining with hookers and Cummings in your pants. While calling anyone who doesn't enjoy those topics a troll.




And strippers aren't hookers. The hookers put to work in clubs by their pimps do otc itc...hoe. and management always gets a cut. Many take money from pimps to allow their hoes to work clubs jn the first place

Estafador why get lapdances if t doesnt lead to otc? Cuz you’re paying money yet not getting full service its like you’re getting played. I got played man, its so depressing. I wasnt offered otc but it should be offered after u get dances. Idk

Buying dances doesn't entitle you to fuck her

Yea but if youre not getting offered or agreeing to otc then yoire getting played maybe

Then stop going @ BigAnnoyingAssTurdEye

OK BTE here is a question for you. Imagine the girl who is working that doesnt offer what you call full service( which btw is only truly used by escorts and hookers) and is constantly hounded by a guy just like you who assumes by paying for dances entitles him to get what he wants no matter what.

Now picture that the dancer in question is your sister or cousin, or niece. Now do you see how much an asshole you are by these constant i paid for a dance and she wouldnt fuck me threads?

If you want full service call an escort service, but by god stop these stupid asking the same feel sorry for me because i wanted to fuck and it didnt happen threads. Are you that pathetic of a human being, that doesnt see what has been written multiple times on your constant OTC bullshit.

Clubs are not a dating or fucking pool. They are a form of entertainment period. You are the prime example of why we have in the dancer contract of what to do when a customer asks about OTC the first time, and policy that follows when that happens.

You got banned in days from the girls site, maybe its time you got banned across the board for your constant bullshit acting like you are entitled to anything, of which you are not.

^ Omega... You do realize this is a troll, right? The non-stop threads about OTC and stripper SOs is all about generating reactions, and not about actually putting to use *any* of the feedback provided.

At this point, you have to get this.

CMI, Omega, aka Mr. Citizens Arrest (can't make this shit up lol), has already proven to be full of shit himself. You might not want to get too sucked into his faux outrage. 😉

My short answer to the first question is NO. A girl doesn't owe me anything just because I buy a few LDs from her.

To answer the second question, I don't avoid anyone, but my spending is definitely calibrated to those who I enjoy the most.

To the third question, irrelevant. They almost all have SOs. If that prevented them from doing extras or going OTC then there wouldn't be much of either, but, contrary to Omega's goofy diatribe, that is far from the case.

Omega, can you explain what does the contract say about wjen customers ask for OTC
“ are the prime example of why we have in the dancer contract of what to do when a customer asks about OTC the first time, and policy that follows when that happens.“


Omega i didnt say im entitled to anything just for paying for lapdance.

Omega, imo if you pay large amounts for a lapdance its like getting played

Like $100-$200 i guess is fine once in a while

Of course I don't. I wouldn't do any over the counter stuff anyway, only the hard stuff for me!

The men of the front room are weird n different 🤦🏽‍♀️

Rick dude
I think this dancer doesnt grind directly on the dick much cuz of having a SO and some dort of boundary.

In another thread, sirlapdancealot mentioned how a dancer grinded her pussu on his dick. He had clothes on, she was nude.

I was thinking, i think the dancer i was with barely did that direct pussy grinding on the dick. She would do a mive where she bounced the ass and maybe lower pussy area on the dick, and then grinded her pussy on my thigh.

I got totally screwed! This dancer had a SO, so i didnt even get a proper mileage lapdance where the pussy is grinding on your dick area. I got screwed so badly man i dont know what to do. I should have read more about what lapdsnces are supposed to include. Its not just about otc availability or not. I didn’t even get a proper lapdsnce that made me cum. Instead i got this alternator dancer who would barely grind tje pussu on the dick area. I got screwed so badly. Im not gonna go to clubs for some time now. I feel used, scammed, taken advantage of. I got a nonsense lapdance which was like treating me like a fool

===> "This dancer had a SO, so i didnt even get a proper mileage lapdance where the pussy is grinding on your dick area."

No, you didn't get the mileage you wanted because she had her own personal boundaries. Plenty of other guys were doing just fine with other girls who had SOs on that very night.

I cant believe this man, i got a dumb dancer with a SO who didnt even grind the pussy area on the dick. Maybe she did it for a bit but i remember sje was always alternating moves and doing that move where she grinds her pussy on my thigh. I spent $2400 over 4 weeks, and didnt even get a good mileage lapdance. I dont think ive ever felt this scammed in my life. That dancer was probably laughing at me, since I continued getting those lapdances. I dont get it, she let me touch the pussy everywhere with my hands, no fingering. She let me touch the nipples and asscrack. But when it came to the grinding, i think she only barely grinded the pussy on my dick area. Probably cause she had a SO and maybe that boundary is too far it something. I literally got scammed and didnt get a proper lapdsnce despite spending thousands.

Rick i don’t understand the logic someone would let yoi touch the pussy but draw the line grinding their pussy area (with underwear on) on your dick area?

Rick ... I saw Omega's previous posts about calling the cops on his own club/dancers/customers. I agree that I approached those posts with a high degree of skepticism as to whether or not it actually happens. But it's not outside the realm of possibility that a strip club manager/owner would post such a thing here (or spread the same as a rumor within the club) to terrify guys away from the temptation to seek out a "parking lot date" just outside the club. If such a thing did happen in the parking lot and the club got wind of it, then it's more realistic that the dancer gets canned and/or the customer gets banned. And that's it. At some clubs, the customer might get put back into his car at high velocity.

But, who knows the level of sincerity on an anonymous forum? But I strongly suspect he's not managing any clubs in my area.

@Bharlem are you just being polite

"The Men of the Front Room"

I think Bharlem just titled the TUSCL feature-length documentary. Samuel L. Jackson would be the obvious pick for voice over/host. But I actually think that Werner Herzog or Ken Burns would be funnier.

Dougster you bring up a point that's been brought up here a lot. But no her not agreeing to prostitute herself to you isn't playing you

Rick and Eltriste please advise
Is a lapdance even possible with her not grinding her pussy on your dick area at some point? Isnt that the definition of a lapdance?

@CMI, Mr. Citizens Arrest made a number of absurd claims, not just one, that made it pretty clear that he's full of BS. If (s)he wants to engage in silly messaging to support his/her agenda, then (s)he needs to do much better than that. 😉

What do you think is his agenda ?

cmi , omega claimed he got guys arrested on sex offender charges for getting lapdances in cars in parking lots

He also claimed spending $2000 in a month on one dancer is just a drop in the bucket and dancers dont care or remember it or anything and thata wrong to some extent from personal experience.

But what is Omega's agenda, someone needs to give us a heads up

BTE, don't worry about whether or not dancers do OTC. Engage with them as civilians and with generosity.

SJG

@Bharlem guilty as charged but I'd behave for you 😁 .

"Of course Dougster is trolling. But the topics are still better than right wing politics bargaining with hookers and Cummings in your pants. While calling anyone who doesn't enjoy those topics a troll."

Yes, basically. Although I often think LDK is the the TUSCL PL who most enjoys himself in strip clubs. And I think many dancers may see him as a prime customer, as long as he isn't overly cheap, and avoid soak through.

"And strippers aren't hookers. The hookers put to work in clubs by their pimps do otc itc...hoe. and management always gets a cut. Many take money from pimps to allow their hoes to work clubs jn the first place"

High income people who are vulnerable to manipulation generally end up with leech(es) living off them. It's seems more common with FSSW, but it's not all of them nor is it unique to them. Ideally every market would have both extras and non-extras clubs. But if the non-extras clubs can't compete, well, that's what happens in free market. The worst system except for all the others.

None extras clubs are more profitable in the long run

Don't feed the trolls.

@BigThirdEye
"Estafador why get lapdances if t doesnt lead to otc? Cuz you’re paying money yet not getting full service its like you’re getting played. I got played man, its so depressing. I wasnt offered otc but it should be offered after u get dances. Idk"

Because I don't feel enthused paying $500+ to stick my schlong in a girl that has no feeling for me. Part of sex for me is the emotional want between each of us. I'm getting a bit rosy with the description but that's me personally. The feeling of want (and not for money either) is part of the sex. The foreplay, the dates, all of that is apart of it for me.

Otherwise, I'm content with watching her move her body over me.

Also women aren't entitled to fuck you. That's not apart of their job. Some women have different standards.

That's the most important part of sex to me. Wanting each other. Mutual attraction. Sex is something you do with a girl not to a girl

Estafador you dont need emotional connection for her grinding her pussy on your crotch?
Estafador id youre buying a 30 minite VIP isnt LDK supposed to be included otherwise it means the dancer wasnt doing a lapdsnce the whole time but was instead talking or sitting around or doin something else?

Wow how lap dances have changed. In the beginning you could buy a dance by the song or a 1hr VIP that came with a bottle of champagne. The price of the room was based on that bottle and was a symbol of status so you could look cool in front of your friends. If it was one song the girl was to dance continuously for the full 4 minutes with no more than 3 seconds of grinding at a time, no touching (some sit on their hands) and the hour was quality time to get to know a dancer and it was up to the girl if you could touch her arms and back no below the waste no nipples or licking. And you could then negotiate a price like $20 to dance to this song while in the hour. Dancer must keep bare vagina no less than 6” away from the customers face at all times. These are original dancer rules. If a customer gets out of hand a girl was to grab her things and walk out no refunds even if you were only in the room 5 min of the hour and you licked her nipple. Hookers would hand out info for appointments and door hoes will suck you for enough for a fix and not care about the charges she gets from the video footage that high end clubs would submit to the police. Yes bar owners call the cops and report a girl for prostitution and when she comes out of her dance the cops are already there. Now it is all about the law of the state. In Wisconsin no two open prophesies may have contact like mouth and nipple and contact below the waist. So technically touching a dancers knee is prostitution in Wisconsin lol. But these are dancer rules and hookers have rules of their own too like pay first and no kissing etc. I have worked everywhere from Vegas to Miami the past 17 years and I had no problem with customers understanding what I offer and what the next one did. Shit he could walk up to me and say “ looking for a red heat that wants to go to “breakfast after work” and I got $50 just for telling the girl that offered that who he was. Only easy part of my job. My average work day consists of 5x(20 minute workouts) and about 10 (4minute dances) in a 5 hr shift. Serious cardio

If you want to see her outside I would let her know this at the earliest tactful time. Generosity yes, not buying dances.

And I would never talk about it as OTC, I would keep it totally civilian.

SJG

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SJG, I handed her a $100 last time, engaged in FRMOS, and she jerked me in the front room. We didn’t even need the back room.

OUTSTANDING!

From that experience you can decide instead if you want to invite her to the back room, like for FS. And if you want to take her home with you.

^^^ BIGTHIRDEYE, Front Room Make Out Session!

SJG

San Jose Guy does your organization have an online application? I would like to sign up I have great child bearing hips and a wicked head game.

SJG, good advice! Im surprised none of the keyboard kowards tried your FRMOS strategy at this point!

^ Most of the Keyboard Koward Shit Heads do not think that way. They don't see the women who dance in strip clubs as ordinary women.

You're doing really good BTE

SJG

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SJG, thanks for the compliments! Your methods are tried, time tested and proven. Those guys are trembling in their trousers, while you steal all their women away from them! Im glad to have tried frmos, it was just a small monetary risk, and worth the risk. You want to show that generosity, but not buy a dance! Money was literally invented for handing to women, friend!

Getting ripped off. It's part of the learning curve. I'm learning... Only problem is... I'm learning!

BTE as my organization builds we will be snatching up the best of the young women.

I am elated to hear how well things are working for you, FRMOS! and FR BBBJ!

SJG

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Yes FRMOS! FRMOS! Say it one more time for the keyboard kowards in the back!

Hey you've just done it BTE. You know its power. Generosity, Charm, then Make Out Session. From that you can play it from there, but if you pick the girl you want to be waking up in the mornings with the chances are good.

SJG

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