FRANK JAMES VS SJG VS MENTAL HEALTH

Black nationalist murderer. Hang the dirty fuck.

iceydougster, we still niggaz right homie!

iceydougster, we still niggaz right homie!

iceydougster, we still niggaz right homie!

iceydougster, we still niggaz right homie!

You mean lynch the nigger. Right? Remember your words next time you race bait calling people antisemitic and play the victim card.

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I see the sad evidence of Frank James mental health decline.

Sadly, this is where things go off the rails. This guy seemed to have a decent level of intelligence, as he knew a trade, he took college classes, and he was productive. However, if he was committed to a mental health facility, folks would cry out for his civil rights being violated.

Should he have been allowed to own guns? I don’t know? He had obvious mental health issues, but apparently no felony convictions, so that is a difficult one to answer. In retrospect, it’s obvious. But hindsight is usually 20-20.

We have to eradicate the Mental Health system or you will always have more people like this.

And anyone being targeted with the Mental Health Myth or the Autism Hoax needs to be ready to make corpses at any time.

SJG

SJG continues to provide definitive evidence of his mental illness with each comment.

The folks who would object to his being committed are the folks in the institution who would have to sit and listen to him!

So this is a thread comparing the mental health of mass murder Frank James vs San Jose Guy? After reading the linked article, I get how you're comparing the two.

James - A prime trove of evidence is his YouTube videos. He seems to have opinions about nearly everything
SJG - A prime trove of evidence is his TUSCL spam. He seems to have opinions about nearly everything

James - self proclaimed "Prophet of Doom"
SJG - self proclaimed leader of "the Organization", a satanic sex cult

James - put the blame on New York City’s mayor.
SJG - put the blame on California's Governor.

Frank - says things would only change if certain people were "stomped, kicked and tortured" out of their "comfort zone."
SJG - "American's Will Not Be Free Until The Last Preacher Has Been Strangled To Death By The Entrails"

Frank - "I’m a victim of your mental health program"
SJG - victims of autism spectrum programs

Frank - "full of hate, full anger and bitterness."
SJG - ditto

Frank - may have lost his shit and shot up a crowded subway
SJG - has ONLY threatened to kill TUSCL members and advocated murder as a rational response to the medical community trying to assist people on the spectrum.

See, I can see your confusion, but SJG is just the "harmless mascot" of the TUSCL board.



until he's not.

datinman offers a useful comparison of the two subjects of this discussion. Obviously the last line of his comment is the most concerning.

Hopefully, SJG continues his keyboard cowboy ways, and his actions never move beyond the pounding of the keyboards of the San Jose library.

Luckily he seems to have little ambition - and no initiative. He has waged many battles in his imagination - and he’s developed an entire organization in his imagination - and both seem to keep him occupied in his tent.

My concern would be if SJG had a job, and got stuck in a massive Cali traffic jam, as I could see an odd version of Falling Down occurring…

No one should ever cooperate with the mental health system. We need to abolish it.

SJG

Intro to Kabbalah Part I - The Tree of Life & Hebrew Letters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqKUZ4by…

^ Still waiting for your autistic commandos to bodyguard me.

Actually I've been open about my own mental health past here too. When is my commando training? Can I keep my guns? Get some Viet coffee girls as reparations for my dealings with the mental health system?

I know you said you'll never meet me F2F so your threats to exterminate, assassinate, eviscerate, incinerate, exsanguinate, masturbate, fellate, or ejaculate me are just empty talk, but commando training sounds awesome. How do I sign up?

I have some sympathy for those people that were going about their business and by nothing that they did got their day interrupted by this freak that was so self entitled the he believes that nothing matters if it isn’t about him, Sure we should help the mentally ill, but after an episode like that he has no business being allowed to roam free.
AFAIK he should have been committed long ago.

I remember your post about a mental health history. People need to learn that there is no such thing as mental illness and that we have to abolish the mental health system. No one should ever cooperate with it.

And yeah, anyone being targeted with the Mental Health System or the Austism - Aspergers Hoax needs martial arts and military commando training because they may need to make corpses at any time.

SJG

Ginger Baker's Air Force - 12 Gates of the City (1970)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED_6dYfj…

Sjg sounded different when he came back after the lockdown. Just incoherent and like his health really declined.

But Frank James is basically acting out the way SJG says the mentally ill should act.



And it's scary that someone who has been institutionalized. Has had 15 arrests. Can walk into an Ohio pawn shop and get a weapon.

Where do I get my commando training and autistic bodyguards? And reparations?

Reparations are best obtained through the Civil Court, and this is a cutting edge area.

Commando training should be done by retired US Special Forces.

SJG

Some of you are trolling him but this case sent chills down my spine in how James' history and actions mirror SJG

If James ever had contact with the Mental Health system that should show you why we need to abolish it.

SJG

^ Where are those ex SF folks? Certainly you have some hookups? Or civil rights lawyers?

I hope there is a big difference between the subway guy and or resident loon.

The one guy acted on his bizarre ideas.

SJG is not one to act.

He posts a lot of drivel, but he is lazy, and his threats are idle. He has created this image of himself in his imagination - and that is where it begins and ends.

If SJG’s tone changes, there might be cause for concern. But, his constant posting here may be enough to satisfy his imaginary role as the leader of TUSCL?

I defer to SirLDAlot - as his analysis is much better researched than mine.

Institutionalizing someone isn't a civil rights violation as long as federal rights aren't violated. And that only applies to public mental health facilities. They basically have the same rights as prisoners.

When it comes to things like crime or being a danger

And in the case of medical necessity involuntary institutionalization isn't a civil rights violation when meds etc help the person

Institutionalizing anyone without due process is a federal rights violation. And the entire reason we have a Mental Health System is to violate due process and institutionalize people.

Only evil comes from the Mental Health System. People must come to know that they do not associate with it. If James had had contact with it, I think that sufficient proof.

And Cashman, you need to go soak your head.

SJG

"I defer to SirLDAlot - as his analysis is much better researched than mine."



Come on Cash, you see it, I see it, many others here see it. No research is needed, it's plainly obvious that he's a psychotic mental case!

BTW everyone, my homie iceydougster and yours truly are still niggaz! lulz

I know that there's people here who eye-roll at my opinion on this, but I've never thought SJG was funny, eccentric, or a TUSCL "mascot". I'll go back to my usual question... Knowing how SJG feels and thinks about women and people in general, would you want him moving into the house or apartment next to yours (particularly if you had a family with children)?

Frank James was a guy struggling with mental health and delusion who posted a lot of drivel (over a looooong period of time) and was not one to act ... until a few days ago when he suddenly became a guy who acted. And because of the complexity of mental health, we'll likely never fully understand what moved him from "prophetoftruth88" on YouTube to shooting at a bunch of people in a subway car.

And, though I hope I'm wrong about this, it's entirely possible that we could see news pundits and law enforcement attempting to parse SJGs 400+ discussions and over 42,000 comments to see what led up to some horrible tragedy centered on San Jose. In a book or movie, SJG stating in this thread about Frank James that the mentally ill need to get ready to "make corpses" would be considered heavy-handed foreshadowing by critics.

Frank James was a product of the mental health system. No one should ever cooperate with that system. Anyone being targeted by it needs to be ready to make corpses on a moment's notice.

SJG

Gota agree with Ishmael. If the day comes where the creep goes full auto, the aftermath just won't be news articles and posts of his history here.
This site will be shut down. Obviously I've vocally petitioned for his removal but founder thinks he's harmless and let's him run amuck.
Founder I hope you're financially solvent because if the creep goes overboard your income from TUSCL will go in the immediate aftermath.

Cashman, i would be very careful saying anything against sjg. Out of anyone on this site, hes the last person I would want to cross.

He’s already sewn shut the asshole of at least one user on here, possibly more. Based on that video you linked days ago, for people like us, a sewn shut asshole is the worst imaginable punishment possible!

Anyway, from what ive seen sjg isnt a bad user. Icey is much more dangerous, given some of his comments on recent threads.

SJG said "Frank James was a product of the mental health system. No one should ever cooperate with that system. Anyone being targeted by it needs to be ready to make corpses on a moment's notice."

I appreciate you rushing back here to support my opinion...

TheeOsu iceys oroginal account got banned for threatening mitch mcconell.
He has the nee account now, where he still posts nonsense recommendations like attacking landlords, robbing businesses, destroying corporate headquarters, “destroying the system”. If anyone gets the site shut down i think it would be icey. While you csn normally probably get away with joking about attacking people online, there are limits. Especially if you start naming politicians or big corporations

Icey that is laughable you interpret skibums comment as racism. This guy shot up a bunch of people, its not racism when someone says he should be punished.

To cover a few items here. I'm convinced the maligned mental health system saved my life. I wasn't forced into it or involuntarily committed, my life fucking sucked and I wanted to get better. My manic phases were often hypersexual, resulting in serious extras binges. It didn't feel thrilling, it felt compulsive, like a druggie looking for a hit. Not that I don't indulge now, but much more rarely and out of pleasure, not compulsion.

SJG's opinion on it sounds inflammatory and uninformed, fill of bombastic language like making corpses and at best links to fringe philosophers, as if posting the first Google link that supports him refutes any argument.

For another, I spend little time worrying about what he might do. His actions paint the picture of an ineffectual and lazy man who probably can't afford his own device with which to access the internet (hence his pandemic hiatus) and is bound by public library hours (Happy Cesar Chavez Day!). Therefore he probably can't afford a bus ticket to San Francisco, let alone a working firearm and some hi cap magazines. And 40 hours a week on this site, or finding material to post here, paint the picture of a lonely man who interacts with the world through an obscure website for us perverts. Per another comment, maybe he does see himself as a "leader" here but that's hardly a resume builder. Spending your life here doesn't mean anything. We have no leaders except Founder. Oh, and the UBI fixation doesn't scream high achiever or go getter either.

And when he gets called out on any of this, he resorts to factless threats and inchoate rages. I take these autistic freakouts as signs that I hit the nail on the head. He admitted he doesn't have access to this commando training himself and won't follow through on his threats to me, so I regard it all as "cute." Hence why I've called him "dime a dozen internet tough guy" and "Walter Mitty."

Not to mention, what could we do? File a mental health injunction against anyone who uses the San Jose public library computers between certain hours? Homeless people are hard to track.

Would I want him living next to me? No. I would think that anyone who fantasizes about the stuff he does should be kept away from small children and animals, but you can never tell what dark sides people have. Maybe the old Chinese couple next door is into scat porn and I'll never know.

Honestly I feel like I'm punching down here. That's because I have a hard time watching people act the fool and letting it lie. If only he were to tone down the threats, he can be surprisingly lucid sometimes.

^ He got banned for copy/paste from the VIP anything else he tells you is pure bullshit, that poster wouldn’t know the truth if it fell on him threatening Mitch McConnell where the fuck that come from

^^I believe he also faked a review

Icey and TheeOSU are not the same person.

Anyone being targeted by the Mental Health System needs to be ready to make corpses at a moments notice. Life is often very unfair. And if you are being targeted by the Mental Health System you are living in a war zone and you have to act accordingly.

SJG

Mentally ill people actually harming others is rare. But they can be a danger to themselves. It's also important to normalize getting help for mental problems. It's no different than getting help for civid or any other health problem.

I don't think SJG is malicious in his intents. There are many more malicious posters...thirdeye/dougster 20fag theeosu, skibum cacaplop desert scrub et al.

But Frank James is a real life example of his views on here in action.

There is no such thing as mental illness. The mental health system persecutes all the people it can. Frank James is most certainly a victim of the mental health system.

SJG

^ Opinion not fact

"There is no such thing as mental illness. "
"Anyone being targeted by the Mental Health System needs to be ready to make corpses at a moments notice. "

SJG, flat out, do you feel Frank James response was appropriate?

What Frank James did was absolutely never appropriate.

But also understand that Frank James was a product of the mental health system, its treatments, and its concepts.

This belief in mental illness is an epidemic:

Subway Shooting Highlights NYC and Nation’s Failure to Address Growing Mental Health Crisis
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/14/n…

SJG

Twentyfive you linked me the thread where he threatened mcconnell and I thought that was the thread that got him banned. The thread he copy pasted From vip he got a warning from what i remember. He listed some number combo which represented a threat

"What Frank James did was absolutely never appropriate."

If you truly feel that way, maybe back off on the rhetoric a bit. You know, no other member has multiple threads suggesting that they might be a danger to society.

We need to eradicate the Mental Health System.

SJG

^ It was the copy/paste on that forum that pissed off founder because he set that thread up as a private group, not searchable by doing that Iceefag circumvented founders privacy promise, and posted shit that was promised to be private, it really had nothing to do about what the content of his post was.
Iceefag got banned a second time for posting a fake review, founder relies on those reviews and is very touchy about plagiarism

Newshour Today, Fed Judge orders Frank James held without bail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YD3RFiP…

SJG

Icey how are any of those people “malicious”? Cacaplop? Cause he ends his posts with caca?

@BTE, Cacaplop goes by a couple names here, the most obnoxious of which is Dixie_Normus. He's a Rhode Island teenager who has shut down another strip club website by trolling under multiple aliases (https://m.stripclublist.com/usa/RI/club_… ) and is trying to pull the same shit here. He posts inflammatory shit that he probably doesn't believe just to get a reaction and create strife. He can't shut down this board because the structure of this board makes it a lot tougher.

Unlike some of the other characters here, he has no redeeming features whatsoever. In fact he's been banned a few times already. Founder seems to be on a snooze from banning people, but I don't mind the punching bag. I don't even feel guilty about it.

I could be wrong, but I believe that Icey's original account got locked down for X number of days because he cross posted from VIP, but it did not get him banned.

What got him banned was when founder started a thread where he asked a question of the members to take the pulse on some aspect of this website's functionality (I think it was the multiple forums, but I'm not sure). He (founder) started the the thread with something like "Stay on topic and just answer the question. If you do anything else I'll ban your ass." Icey's first post to that thread was "The geriatric trick clique [something something]...", and founder banned him soon after. So, it wasn't because he held an unpopular opinion. It was because he couldn't follow directions.

Like I said, I could be wrong.

I was banned for gloating about Trump losing the election.

And the trolls on this thread basically prove what I say about them.

Grown men acting that way isn't far off from Frank James.

^ Hey man, I think your "Ignore" button is broken.

Lol Ishmael, you're lucky just like me, we're both iceydougster's niggaz! lulz

Pretty sure it was the 187 comment.

https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7429…

Ah, okay. I had that wrong I suppose.

Icey thats disingenous, you linked me the thread you were banned on back when i wasnt on your ignore. You weren’t gloating about trump you literally threatened mitch mcconell. Founder was asking you what the series of numbers meant, someone else in the thread informed him they were a threat,

You cant say that was gloating about trumps loss.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/13/nycs-subwa…

NYC’s subway shooting may finally be a turning point for mental health


The good news: Protecting New Yorkers from the dangerous mentally ill and getting those people the help they need are hardly impossible tasks. Yet to do them requires a willingness to force those who are sick to take their meds or to commit them to hospitals when they won’t or when that’s not sufficient. It means having enough hospital beds and staff and supportive-housing services for those living in the community.

War is starting in NYC. There is no such thing as Mental Illness, and trying to coerce people with the idea of Mental Illness means war.

SJG

Safe Houses, Underground Rail Road, and Defiance at Every Level!

SJG

^ Maybe it's time to get in touch with the San Jose city department that deals with mental health, you're becoming irrational

We have to fight the mental health system at every level and we will.

SJG

^ You still haven't told me where to get my commando training. Surely you have connections.

Stay tuned, that will be coming.

SJG

That's the exact mindset Frank James has.

Well, I wish James did partake in intense resistance of the Mental Health System. That would have worked out completely different.

As it is we will fight them at every corner.

SJG