California to make mentally ill homeless accept treatment

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• TheeOSU

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  2 years ago

  Sounds good, maybe now you and your creepy friend can get the help you both desperately need.
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  Counting down to flame war in 3...2...1...
• TheeOSU

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  2 years ago

  Lol, with iceyboi? Naaaawwwww, he's so respectful and polite towards everyone on TUSCL, he'll just thank me for the support. lulz
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  And so the Apocalypse begins: Newsom Proposes Mental Health Courts To Aid Homelessness [view link] I was reluctant to participate in the first recall campaign against Newsom because I did not want his seat to go to a Republican. Newsom first started openly talking about this when Trump came to San Francisco. And then his COVID response was a clear preparation for this, talking about "targeted testing into marginalized population groups" and "an army of 10000 contact tracers". He is proving that all marginalized groups, whether they be racial, economic, religious, or the medicalized, must have political consciousness training as well as martial arts and military commando training. I am ready to sign the second recall petition right now, and we must find more direct ways to fight back at every level. SJG
• twentyfive

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  2 years ago

  What’s the slogan gonna be ‘arm the mentally ill ‘ LOL
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Sarah Connor Escapes [view link] SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  "Arm the mentally ill" is something DeSantis would support What Newsom is doing is the most proactive policy to help the most vulnerable that any governor has ever enacted. How does access to health care and housing hurt people?
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  There is no such thing as ~mental illness~, and besides, his stuff is coercive. That should be prosecuted as Crimes Against Humanity. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  You promote access to housing and health care and he's enacting legislation to give that to the most vulnerable
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  That is okay. But his involuntary psychiatric treatment is completely intolerable. And with the rest of it, it is just an excuse for the psychiatric treatment. The whole purpose of it is to convince people that they have ~mental illness~ and to use that idea, and often drugs as well, to make them compliant. He made it clear that he wanted this when Trump came out to San Francisco. And his COVID response was just compiling lists in preparation for this. SJG The Beatles - Ticket To Ride [view link]
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  It's to treat their psychosis wo they're not suffering on the streets.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  All psychiatry, psychotherapy, and psychoanalysis do is try to break people down and make them submit. If someone suffers there is a reason for this. But the therapist's job is to make them believe that at core it is their own fault. SJG 70s Electric Miles Davis Mix (Jazz, Jazz Funk, Jazz Rock, Fusion..) [view link]
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Untreated mental illness is one of the biggest crises in the US. Especially among yhe homeless
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Totally untrue. The concept of mental illness is most often used against marginalized population groups. It had been more against racial and sexual minorities. Today with neo-liberalism running rampant, it is used more and more against the economically marginalized. And under no circumstance ever should there be any kind of coercive treatments or talk therapy. SJG
• shailynn

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  2 years ago

  Hey! Looks like SJG is finally going to get a house/apartment to live in!!!! All the employees at the San Jose a public Library are praying g it has internet access!!!
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  This is .O'Dell legislation for the country. How we treat our most vulnerable shows who we are as a nation. The fact that Newsom is focusing on people while Biden focuses on war and hiding his failures is monumental
• skibum609

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  2 years ago

  Icee finally lives under a roof.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Newsom should be president. From his leadership facing covid to wnt forgiveness to this he showed more viable leadership than anyone.
• skibum609

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  2 years ago

  Newsome fucked a monkey.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Gavin Newsom is an abomination! SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  He won the recall. People support him
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  ^ Go figure, a Democratic governor wins a recall in a sapphire-blue state. Don't get carried away.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  It also took Biden, Harris, and Obama campaigning for him. And his opponent was a right wing talk show host, an extremist with zero political experience. I want the Democratic Party to come up with someone else in time for November. SJG
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  If they will. California is blue as it gets but the Dems nationwide are going to get waxed in November. No sure thing.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  No matter who th governor is. Every Democrat supports his plans to help the homeless.
• twentyfive

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  2 years ago

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• skibum609

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  2 years ago

  Icee is just glad someone is forcing her into a home. First the Democrats came for the homeless and I did not protest for I owned a home.......
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Newsom tried to make a Medical Police State over COVID. But COVID hysteria is running out. So now he is turning to the homeless. It is easy to target marginalized groups. A lot of people will just say, “I confess to Almighty God and to you my brothers and sisters, I have been stubborn and unwilling to admit that I have a Brain Chemical Imbalance, and I have resisted my therapist, and I have not always taken my meds.” Gavin wants to turn California into a 40 million bed psychiatric hospital. [view link] This sounds similar to the old vagrancy laws. If they stopped you, you would need to have either $20 or proof of employment or they could throw you into jail. And in South it was those road labor crew jails. And for a woman, vagrancy meant that they thought she seemed like a prostitute. All of these are status crimes, something the highest courts have struck down. We must get rid of Gavin and rid of all those who support him. SJG Ginger Baker's Air Force - 12 Gates of the City (1970) [view link]
• IvySnow

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  2 years ago

  He has to go for many other reasons. He is not in touch. This is a weird place to post this stuff by the way.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  I agree, he has to go! SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Ivy, back in 2020 Gavin started holding daily press conferences on COVID. He would walk to the lectern and then make a big deal out of taking off his velcro rear closure mask. Then he would go on to scold us because their continued to be more new cases. Well all the precautions and shelter order were supposed to do was to slow it down. These were never intended to choke it off, and that would be an idiotic thing to try and do. Soon I was telling people that unless you are seeking medical treatment, refuse COVID testing. All the data does is fuel Gavin's Gaslighting and Grandstanding. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Right he should have just told people to sleep it off. And no money for the mentally ill coz they're delusional thinking they're sick. ???
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Newsom should have said that we are trying to flatten the curve, and so the precautions will be rolled back as soon as possible, and that we have free testing and treatment. Do Not Panic, COVID is not that big of a deal! He should have said that, but he didn't. And he should have told people that the precautions slow it down, but they do not stop it. So everyone will be exposed. We jsut don't want everyone getting sick at the same time. And he should say that we should not be using the idea of ~Mental Illness~ to marginalize people. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  But covid is a huge deal. I think newsom should have gone further with mitigation efforts. But he stood with the people unlike other governors.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Covid is not a big deal at all. Newsom could have said what Fauci said in June 2020. 70% of the US population has already been exposed to COVID, and of those 70%, 60% felt absolutely nothing and had no symptoms when they got exposed. So COVID was no big deal. And Newsom could have said that if you feel sick, GET TO SLEEP, and do not stand in line to get tested. The cure for covid is sleep. SJG [view link]
• Cashman1234

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  2 years ago

  It’s not surprising who has commented most in this discussion. Luckily his privacy wall and fictitious organization - and the free Internet at the San Jose library - keep him from being committed…
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Ha Ha Ha, but Gavin is committed to turning CA into a 40 million bed mental hospital. Since the COVID hysteria has died down, he has shifted to the homeless, and it is always easy to use mental health to attack marginalized groups. SJG [view link]
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Newsom isn't attacking the homeless. He wants to house them and make sure they get the medical help they need. No one is going to take up marshal arts and attack social workers
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Icey, you keep talking about Gavin prioritizing people over profits. Well it is people who were being harmed by Gavin's COVID precautions. And the profits are just people going about their affairs. People want to be able to pay their rents and their mortgages, and they want to maintain their employment and their standing and skills in their occupations. But this becomes impossible when Gavin shuts down most of the economy. And then bail out money does not necessarily keep people above water, and it doesn't let them maintain their skills and occupational standing. Now someone living in a Mental Hospital would not care about such things. So long as staff brings them food and changes their bed pan, and brings them their meds, they are happy as a clam. So this is what Gavin wants, to turn all of California into a 40 million bed Mental Hospital. This was clear in his daily press conferences in 2020, when he fueled the hysteria by making people believe that the precautions were insulating people from COVID. And then his 2021 anti-recall campaign was shameless, showing someone on a ventilator. We stopped putting people on ventilators for COVID in June 2020. The ventilators had been killing people. The recall had silenced Gavin for a while, but then at the end of 2021 he again started his Grandstanding, bragging about the first "vaccine" mandate for school children. Well someone living in a Mental Hospital would probably not care if they and their children were being needled with a radical new kind of so called "vaccine", which by the available evidence causes more harm than good, is totally unnecessary, and is far more dangerous than COVID. But the entire reason Gavin cared about COVID was to try and embarrass the Trump Administration, and then to embarrass some Red State Governors. Gavin never told people that they should calm down. Instead he kept trying to fuel the hysteria. And he talked about "Targeted Testing Into Marginalized Population Groups" and an "Army of 10,000 Contact Tracers". And it was working people who suffered the most from Gavin's reckless and hysterical precautions. Financializers might have seen some portfolio shrinkage, but their livelihoods do not depend upon daily retail contact with people. And then it is only a few quite select workers who can shift their work to home, the so called "Laptop Class" What Happened: Dr. Jay Bhattacharya on 19 Months of COVID [view link] And so now that the national mood has shifted away from COVID, Gavin has unveiled his plan to target the homeless and to set up mental health courts in each county, and to subject the homeless to involuntary mental health procedures. The homeless make for a good scapegoat. And this is why Gavin first started talking about this stuff after Donald Trump had come to San Francisco. A Special Tribute to Thomas Szasz [view link] If you subject people to Mental Hospital conditions and deprive them of the chance to maintain a livelihood, then they will be receptive to that therapist sitting in the arm chair across from them, and they will likely be receptive to the doctor's prescription pad. And then they might just start prescribing for themselves: Have Nots [view link] And life is not fair. Anyone being born into a war zone where there is systemic targeting and persecution, needs to learn to fight back at every level, including the level of highly skilled and focused lethal force. SJG X- Live At The Whisky A Go Go [view link]
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Businesses chose to fuck people over by not recalling them. Newsom did a lot of good with rent forgiveness and going after rogue businesses. Price gouging. Ppp fraud. You're taking extreme right wing positions against him.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Businesses cannot operate when retail biz is shut down and when a general collapse is upon us. Rent forgiveness does not keep anyone afloat except real estate speculators. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Being under insured js their problem not Newsoms. Rent forgiveness kept.people from becoming homeless.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  People's home were in foreclosure. And a business can't carry enough insurance to cover for an economic shutdown which closes them for months and months. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  There are insurances for such things. Also the massive ppp fraud businesses engaged in.
• curious_dude

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  2 years ago

  I think Newsom has really been fucked during this term. He has had to deal with crisis after crisis and major scrutiny that many governors have never had to handle. I still think he has fucked up a lot but I dont think there is any candidate who couldve done a better job right now. If we recall him its more than likely that he gets replaced with some republican and in my opinion that would be really bad. With this new plan to address homelessness the devil is really in the details so its hard to say if this is going to be a shit show or not. My initial thought is that the hardest part of this is will be the forcing element of it which if done in a bad way will be really really bad. I can see an argument that there are some people who are so severally mentally ill and addicted to drugs that they arent in a place to even wipe their own ass so how are they going to use any optional programs. But determining where its ok to force people into getting help is going to be really challenging and can be disastrous. Honestly I havent done a lot of reading into his plan so im not in a place to say if I agree with it or not but this seems like a very bold move.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  I think it will be like how when police do homeless sweeps in Santa Monica or Venice. They're trained to spot signs of mental illness and often bring social workers. Instead of jail they take them to half way houses or hospitals based on how dire their needs are. They also do regular welfare checks with the homeless as do paramedics and the fire debt. It's very humane.
• TheeOSU

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  2 years ago

  ^ Listen to him, he gets swept up every week so he speaks from experience! *** SLAM DUNKED THAT FAGGOT ICEYBOI ***
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Businesses cannot insure themselves against a months long lock out. And they cannot be forced to recall people to work. Bailout money does not really support people, it is just minimal sustenance. People want to maintain their businesses and their careers. Gavin is trying to force 40 million people to live as though they are mental hospital patients. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Nevada passed a bill making the casinos recall workers. And it was a given that people would return to work after yhe shutdown. Businesses were given ppp loans basically grants for that purpose. Many took yhe money and ran or chose to run businesses with skeleton crews to lower costs and maximize profits. You're taking right wing extremist views now. Supporting businesses against people. War hysteria. Opposing subsidized housing and health care. Etc.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Casinos recalling workers, I don't know about that. In CA and most other places the law is "employment at will", and the original company may be so altered that it might not really be back to normal for years. "And it was a given that people would return to work after yhe shutdown." Maybe this was what many would have wanted. But as Gavin got trapped in the shut down being so long and turning from Flattening The Curve into making a new kind of society without viruses, it became highly unlikely. And then I don't see anyway that it ever could have been enforced. And then bail out money went to mortgage lenders and landlords, when with the economic squirrel cage stopped, these are the very entities who had to be absorbing the loss, not the public treasurey and our currency. The bail out money was really stupid. Needed instead to go to Universal Basic Income and a strong public housing offering. Businesses have rights because they belong to people. THis is not the old Soviet Union. The Ukraine war is very serious because it is killing Ukranians. Health care and housing yes, but not "mental health", and never ever every involuntary "mental health". SJG The Baker Gurvitz Army - Inside Of Me [view link] SJG The Baker Gurvitz Army - Memory Lane [view link]
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  You don't know a lot of things... Again supporting corrupt businesses that broke yhe law instead of Newsom. Ppp loans were for the purpose of retaining and recalling workers. You haven't worried about zelensky bombing his own people since 2014. Qnd don't worry about the US killing Yemeni. But you're opposing housing for yhe homeless. Mental health is a real thing. Youre in denial for personal reasons.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  There is no way to make businesses hire people back. After a long shut down the business might not even exist. And triggering a broad general economic collapse, that business might not have the revenue for years, or ever. And people want to maintain their income, employment, occupational standing, and their skills. Zelenskyy was elected because people do not side with Moscow. Gavin is targeting the homeless because they are a stigmatized group. Other people would just tell the authorities to fuck off. Gavin is not effected by his own policies. He does not understand the difference between ordinary society where people have some ability to direct their own lives and advance themselves, and a Mental Hospital. He wants all of California to be a Mental Hospital. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  That's not what happened. You claim to want a ubi and subsidized housing and health care but now you're saying everything should be up to the Markey and that giving yhe homeless housing and health care is taking away their rights.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  UBI, and Public Housing and Universal Health Care, but this doe not mean that the housing is subsidized. It runs at a board established fee, like say 1/2 of the UBI. But this is just the bottom of the economy, the floor. And so we will be Raising the Floor [view link] Most people will still want paid employment or to have businesses on top of that. Giving people health care and housing does not take away their rights. But with what I am suggesting it is not just for the homeless, it is for everybody. Involuntary Mental Health Procedures are extreme human rights violation, and that tendency must be EXTERMINATED! SJG Ginger Baker's Air Force - 12 Gates of the City (1970) [view link]
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Saying health care violates a person's right to choose is a far right position. You can't have it both ways. Either you support it or you don't. Helping the most marginalized first is a start
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Involuntary Health Care, and especially Mental Health Care is an extreme violation of rights. It should be prosecuted as Crimes Against Humanity and the penalty should be death. I do not support any involuntary health care. I do not go along with mental health care at all. Any Involuntary Mental Health Care should be resisted with lethal force. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  So subsidized health care is involuntary? But you argued for it
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  ^^ It is not subsidized, it is free to all. And yes, we must have this. But it is not involuntary. And never ever is their anything like involuntary mental health care. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  It's not free it's paid for. So it's subsidized. You just said it's involuntary to give health care to the homeless.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Subsidized means that the cost is reduced, and usually as a sliding scale based on need and ability to pay. Having Universal Single Payer Health Care is not subsidized. It is free. There never is any bill. And it is not just for the homeless, it is for everyone. And no it is not involuntary, it is voluntary. Involuntary Mental Health Procedures must never exist and that must never be on any table of options. SJG The Baker Gurvitz Army - Memory Lane [view link]
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  It's paid for by taxes. Tge state subsidizes the cost. Helping the mentally ill is what they need. And its okay for them to admit being ill to help others understand them better
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Medicine helps the mentally ill view reality without a sensory overload that causes delusions. Without psychotic episodes they can think clearly and be themselves. And they can help others understand them better.
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  Look up the term anosognosia. Many severely mentally ill don't know they're sick, or deny the existence of mental illness entirely.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  I know that. I've seen people like that before. They get really paranoid.
• Call.Me.Ishmael

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  2 years ago

  I've seen people like that right here on TUSCL every single day except Sundays...
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Instead of putting him down try to help him
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  There should never ever be any kind of compulsory mental health procedures, and those psychiatric neuro-toxins should not even be on the market. Gavin wants to make all of California into a Mental Hospital. Say someone had a project, maybe they were even the leader of a project team. They worked hard to get into this position, and so they would want to continue this and then to be able to claim credit for it. And everyone up the chain of command and the entire team would be able to claim credit. But if Gavin shuts down the economy this will stop. And this project leadership was all predicated on being able to meet a market window. Buy the time things finally get going again it could be years and everything will have changed. The hard work done will have yielded nothing. Right now less than 25% of our economy serves anything like real needs. The rest is all discretionary spending. And so when people see that jobs are being lost they stop spending, and this causes more jobs to be lost and even more spending cut backs. Here in CA unemployment stopped paying. One guy I know had his car repossessed. A woman had a decade ago saved money by working with a seller for a seller financed mortgage. But then with the COVID lockdown her nice paying construction work went away, and then unemployment stopped paying. So the mortgage holder sold it to foreclosure artists. She was able to stop the foreclosure by educating herself in the law and then by borrowing from her 401K. But she might not have had that available to her. And the residents of a mental hospital would not care about any of this. So long as they get fed, get their bedpans changed, and get their meds, they don't care about any of this. And this is what Gavin wants. His COVID precautions never protected anyone from anything. They did not reduce the number of people who were infected by COVID. He just slowed it down a bit. Maybe instead of 20 exposures per day, it was only like 2. Most people would develop immunity without being sickened very much. According to Fauci, 60% of those exposed feel nothing. And the real number is probably much higher. All the masking and precautions did was make for a show of submission. And this is what Gavin wants, total submission, as it is in mental hospitals. And so now that COVID hysteria is dissipating, he is targeting the homeless, because they are people who are already living stigmatized lives and so they are less likely to resist. SJG
• datinman

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  2 years ago

  Deltacron is spreading! Gavin needs to shut down the public libraries to flatten the curve!
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  We were spared Gavin's idiocy throughout most of 2021 because of the recall. But even back in Summer 2020 when he was flying over our beaches and scolding people and scolding people because the positive test results had risen from 5.1% to 5.6%, I said that he was trying to make California into a 40 million bed mental hospital. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Thats not true. We have no idea how many would have died without mitigation efforts. Universal health care is compulsory and includes mental Healthcare But sure. Go focus on war hysteria now.
• skibum609

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  2 years ago

  Compulsory = fuck you. California took away the civil liberties of the sad little sheep who love there to attain the same death rate as Florida, who saved the elderly and left everyone else alone.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Wrong, Wrong, Wrong Icey! SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Sjg universal means for all and is compulsory. And mental health is included.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Negative, Univeral Heath Care is voluntary, never coercive. And compulsory mental health is a abomination and such should never be tolerated under any cicrucmstances. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Universal care is a mandate. You can't opt out of coverage. And mental health is included in such programs.
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  "Negative, Univeral Heath Care is voluntary, never coercive." Do you not understand the term "universal"? Or are you especially unmedicated today?
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  No one is forced to undergo Universal Health Care. Except may for when their heart is stopped. But even then, they could have issued a do not necessitate order. Universal just means everyone gets it, regardless of ability to pay. And involuntary mental health procedures must never be allowed to exist. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Being covered isn't a choice.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  But accepting medical procedures is a choice. The only exception might be if your heart is stopped. But even then you could have signed a do not resuscitate order. The biggest threat to Liberty and to Life is this Mental Illness Myth and this Autism/Aspergers/Neurodivergence Hoax. And Gavin wants to turn all of CA into Mental Hospital, because Mental Hospital Patients are completely submissive. He tried this out with his irrational COVID response. Then when Donald Trump came to San Francisco he talked about setting up Homeless Interment Camps. That was when Newsom started to talk about Compulsory Mental Health Procedures. His current proposal is no different from Trump's, just more politically tenable. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  I want to look for any update on CA Governor Gavin Newsom's attempt to target the homeless and create mental health courts, and to have forced mental health procedures. March 3rd: [view link] 12 hours ago: [view link] ^ Says that what Newsom proposes is not enough, but they still seem to support the idea of Mental Health. 4/13: In governor’s race, challengers attack Newsom’s record on homelessness Two of Newsom’s most vocal challengers — Republican state Sen. Brian Dahle of Bieber in Lassen County and Bay Area energy and homeless policy activist Michael Shellenberger, a Democrat turned independent. They have accused the governor of being beholden to the failed housing and homelessness policies of the far left. While ideologically different, both men are calling for a crackdown on homeless encampments and greater incentives for drug users and the mentally ill to receive treatment when provided housing. March 22: Newsom’s new push for homeless mental health treatment lacks details. That has some worried [view link] ^^ All of this does seem predicated on the idea that the homeless are a pitiful lot, a social menace, who best be herded into internment camps and the concepts of drug addiction and mental illness are central to this. This is the original reason that the Mental Health concept and the profession or Psychiatry were originally invented, going back to 1600 and the rise of capitalism. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Looks like we get one free view per day: Opposition mounts against Newsom’s plan for court-ordered treatment of homeless people [view link] SJG
• skibum609

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  2 years ago

  The government can take their mandates and shove them up their own asses with their fucking heads. We earned great healthcare coverage and refuse to get government crap coverage like a bunch of fucking illegals and welfare rats.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  I AGREE 100% WITH SKIBUM609. And as far as Newsom's psychiatric policing, Underground Railroad, Safe Houses, and Resistance At Every Level. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  Gavin Watch Opposition mounts against Newsom’s plan for court-ordered treatment of homeless people [view link] "More than three dozen organizations and individuals, including the American Civil Liberties Union, Disability Rights California and the Western Center on Law and Poverty, signed an April 12 opposition letter raising serious concerns with Assembly Bill 2830, one of two nearly identical measures moving through the Legislature to implement Newsom’s Community Assistance, Recovery and Empowerment Court. The groups often have significant sway among liberal legislative Democrats, the kind of influence that could hinder Newsom’s hopes for a new law to be in place by July 1." "Cynthia Castillo, a policy advocate for the Western Center on Law and Poverty, said Newsom’s plan “seems to be expanding the bureaucracy of homelessness services.”“We are adding judges and attorneys into the mix in hopes of better connecting unhoused individuals with housing and medical care, but nothing else really changes,” she said.Castillo said the anti-poverty group will remain opposed to the CARE Court framework unless lawmakers address the concerns outlined in the letter, especially the plan’s failure to address access to housing and its insistence on empowering judges to mandate care.“We vehemently oppose the proposal because it has this coercive court process implemented, and no right to housing,” Castillo said.AB 2830 was originally scheduled to be heard this week by the Assembly Judiciary Committee, but the hearing is now set for next week, similar to plans for its companion measure, Senate Bill 1338. " 4/25California mental health court won’t help homeless, advocates say. ‘This idea is broken’ [view link] The policy is moving through the Legislature in the form of two bills — Assembly Bill 2830 from Assemblyman Richard Bloom, D-Santa Monica, and Senate Bill 1338 from Sen. Susan Eggman, D-Stockton, and Sen. Thomas Umberg, D-Santa Ana. AB-2830 The Community Assistance, Recovery, and Empowerment (CARE) Court Program.(2021-2022) [view link] SB-1338 Community Assistance, Recovery, and Empowerment (CARE) Court Program.(2021-2022)[view link] Introduced by Senators Umberg and Eggman "The bill is getting push-back from disability rights advocates, who say CARE Court forces treatment on mentally ill people with little regard for their civil rights. They also argue it wastes money that would be better spent on public education, early intervention and programming that doesn’t involve coercion. “We are neglected throughout the whole process, up until the point our condition is so severe that we can’t control it and we start doing things like breaking the law,” said John Vanover, legislative committee chair for the Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance of California. “And at that point, now, the governor wants to step in and make us criminals. So fundamentally, this idea is broken, just from that.”" "HOW WOULD CARE COURT WORK? CARE Court would effectively create a new wing of the civil court system in all 58 of California’s counties that would allow a judge to order a mental “care plan” for those dealing with severe untreated mental illness. The program would apply to everyone who meets the criteria, but Newsom has repeatedly referenced it as a tool to help the homeless population. A person qualifies for CARE Court if they’re at least 18, diagnosed with “schizophrenia spectrum or other psychotic disorder,” are not receiving treatment, and lack “medical decision-making capacity,” according to SB 1338. California was home to nearly 162,000 homeless people in 2020, according to U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development data. Nearly 38,000 people from that population — about 23% — were considered “severely mentally ill.”" "Disability rights advocates say the CARE Court system won’t help the homeless in the way Newsom wants. They also argue it perpetuates stigmas around mental illness and does little to help those suffering. A group of organizations — including Disability Rights California and the California Association of Mental Health Peer Run Organizations — wrote a letter to the Assembly judiciary committee considering AB 2830 that says CARE Court is “antithetical to recovery principles, which are based on self-determination and self-direction.”" "Instead, the letter urges a housing-first approach that guarantees a place to live and investment in “intensive voluntary outpatient treatment.” That approach, the authors say, has better outcomes than involuntary treatment. The letter also points out that those who qualify for CARE Court are supposed to be incapable of making medical decisions. However, someone found to be in need of a care plan is also meant to participate in developing and adhering to it. “If an individual lacks medical decision-making capacity, why are they not being served in the LPS system or Laura’s Law?” asked Matt Gallagher, assistant director of Cal Voices. “Why do we need to create a new $1 billion system in all California counties, when these individuals presumably meet the criteria to be served in other existing systems?” In addition, Vanover, from the Depression and Bipolar Alliance, said that linking homelessness and mental illness is not helpful and perpetuates stereotypes. He wants to see early intervention to help people with mental illnesses stabilize before they need CARE Court, as well as public education to help people better understand those who are struggling." "“That’s the gross stigma that is involved in this legislation and the governor’s messaging — stigma that says all homeless are mentally ill, and, therefore, mental illness is responsible for homelessness,” Vanover said. “And stigma that says mentally ill are criminals. We are statistically way more likely to be victims of violent crime than perpetrators.”" "NEWSOM’S OFFICE SAYS CARE COURT IS NEEDED California needs an entirely new way to help care for those suffering from psychosis, as current systems aren’t sufficient, said Elliott, Newsom’s senior counselor. CARE Court provides a way for those people to remain in the community while receiving mental health treatment, Elliott said. He disagreed with assertions that CARE Court represents involuntary treatment." SJG
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  Opposition to Gavin's Psychiatric Policing and Internment Camps [view link] [view link] [view link] here, 6 hours ago. Looks like we only get one free view perday [view link] here: California Governor Gavin Newsom Convenes Growing Coalition in Support of CARE Court [view link] It comes across that this is mainly gov't employees behind this. No different from Newsom's hysterical COVID response. SJG X [view link] The Unheard Music [view link]
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  More resistance to Gavin's Psychiatric Internment Camp Plan DISABILITY, CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS SAY FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS MUST BE ANSWERED REGARDING ‘CARE COURT’ PROPOSAL [view link] Newsom's 'CARE Court' homelessness plan faces new questions before first hearing [view link] SJG Groove Blue Organ Trio (Steve Smith/Tony Monaco/Vinny Valentino) [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  It is important that those subject to this Care Court System be educated that they must remain silent and refuse to cooperate in any way at all. And since this is tied to some free housing plan, it is going to be hard to get people to stand up for themselves. These types of housing plans are always anti-chambers for the mental health system, and the primary function of the mental health system is to convince people that they are “mentally ill”.  I've known people who go along with this.  They seem to think that they are distinguishing themselves as the good people, the smart people, who listen to their doctors, and I think often as not they are taking their meds.  Usually it is best to shun such people, and really all people who have opted to live by chemical mood alterants. We must drop Gavin. From his COVID Gaslighting and Grandstanding he has been trying to turn CA into a 40 million bed mental hospital. SJG Antonin Artaud [view link] The Pretty Reckless - Take Me Down (Official Music Video) [view link] [view link] [view link] [view link] [view link] [view link] [view link] [view link] School of Rock Gimme Shelter (real good!) [view link] [view link] Stairway to Heaven [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  Disability Rights Opposition to Gavin's Care Courts: [view link] and just yesterday: [view link] SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  Lawmakers move CARE Court proposal forward to next committee, has video [view link] Fox, has video [view link] Newsom's Care Court, Santa Cruz Paper, but need to give email to be able to read it [view link] From committee: Do pass and re-refer to Com. on HEALTH. (Ayes 10. Noes 0.) (April 26). Re-referred to Com. on HEALTH. [view link] State Senate Health Committee, seems to have goin at 3pm 4/27 [view link] Senator Richard Pan (Chair) Senator Melissa A. Melendez (Vice Chair) Senator Susan Talamantes Eggman (one of the two sponsors of this SB1338) Senator Lena A. Gonzalez Senator Shannon Grove Senator Melissa Hurtado Senator Connie M. Leyva Senator Monique Limón Senator Richard D. Roth Senator Susan Rubio Senator Scott D. Wiener This is from Newsom's office. Can't find any other record. Seems to be all coming out behind the curve. Governor Newsom’s CARE Court Proposal Cleared First Legislative Hurdle with Broad Support [view link] Seems that these two committees were both rigged, unanimous votes. And the people who speak in support of the proposal are all gov't employees, This was pretty much how it was with Gavin's COVID hysteria too. Here: State Senate Committee Votes On Homeless Mental Health Bill [view link] The reason that we have this Mental Health Industry and the Autism - Aspergers Industry is because we live in a society of advanced industrial and information technology, and so to uphold the Work Ethic and to keep the securities and real estate ponzi schemes going, we have to designate some of the population as scapegoats and pubic symbols and put them into medical internment camps. The alternative would just be to have Universal Basic Income, Public Housing, and Medicare for All. SJG The Pretty Reckless - Take Me Down (Official Music Video) [view link] The School of Rock plays Gimme Shelter with Special guest star Orianthi [view link]
• TheeOSU

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  ^ San'nozekurīpu lulz
• san_jose_guy

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  Newsom’s CARE Court framework clears first hurdle but skeptics linger [view link] This whole Mental Health and Autism / Aspergers industry only exit because we need to have visible scapegoats in order to defend the work ethic. Reporting on SB1338 seems to be behind the curve. [view link] sound have been in the Senate Health Committee yesterday. LA Times, one free view per day [view link] DISABILITY, CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS SAY FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS MUST BE ANSWERED REGARDING ‘CARE COURT’ PROPOSAL [view link] SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  Looks like we get one free LA Times view per day. This article title is the best I have seen yet, a letter to the editor. May 2nd. [view link] ” To the editor: As a worker in the mental health field and incoming therapist, I am beyond horrified at the “CARE Court” proposal. (“Newsom’s ‘CARE Court’ homelessness plan faces new questions from lawmakers,” April 26) It blatantly ignores scientific evidence on the causes of homelessness as well as best practices in therapy. Not only that, but it amplifies the potential effects of medication, something that is not always effective nor a universal panacea. It also assumes that somehow people can be forced to get “better.” It would be far better and more effective to combat the causes of homelessness rather than the symptoms. The root cause is nearly always trauma related. For suggestions on how to handle this, I recommend Dr. Gabor Maté’s work, particularly “In The Realm of Hungry Ghosts.” The CARE Court proposal will not help anything. It will create more work for the courts, create trauma for many, and make those who actually could benefit from the supports offered far less likely to seek them. I urge state leaders not to take people’s autonomy from them in the name of helping them. ” [ Gabor Mate’s book is really good, Holocaust Survivor ] Opposition mounts as Newsom’s mental health care overhaul clears first hurdles, May 2nd [view link] Governor Gavin Newsom, right, confers with California Health & Human Services secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly before a media event announcing the CARE Court program, Thursday, March 3, 2022, in San Jose, Calif. SJG
• TheeOSU

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  ^ 'California to make mentally ill homeless accept treatment' Notice that the sanjosecreep has constantly fought against getting help for the crazy people? It's because he's the craziest loon in the state and he'd be the first one they'd snatch off the street for treatment! As opposed to getting the help he needs, he prefers living in his box under the bridge, dumpster diving, and sneaking into the library and taking over a computer while he spews about his non existent organization 6 days a week to anyone who might listen which happens to be nobody.
• san_jose_guy

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  Opposition to Gavin's plan builds [view link] SJG School of Rock AllStar Students perform "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" by CCR [view link]
• TheeOSU

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  ^ Сан-Хосе ползучести San-Khose polzuchesti
• san_jose_guy

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  CA SB1338 Current Status, Gavin's homeless internment camps [view link] Now it says, “May 9 hearing postponed by committee.” Gavin's idiocy is being checked. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  Letter to California Senate Appropriations Committee Human Rights Watch’s Opposition to CARE Court (SB 1338) [view link] ” CARE Court Denies Due Process The CARE Court proposal authorizes family members, first responders, including police officers or outreach workers, the public guardian, service providers, and the director of the county behavioral health agency, to initiate the process of imposing involuntary treatment by filing a petition with the court.[21] These expansive categories of people with the power to embroil another person in court processes and potential loss of autonomy, many of whom lack any expertise in recognition and treatment of mental health conditions, reveals the extreme danger of abuse inherent in this proposal. For example, interpersonal conflicts between family members could result in abusive parents, children, spouses, and siblings using the referral process to expose their relatives to court hearings and potential coerced treatment, housing, and medication. Law enforcement and outreach workers would have a new tool to threaten unhoused people with referral to the court to pressure them to move from a given area. These state actors could place those who disobeyed their commands into the CARE Court process and under the control of courts. Given the long history of law enforcement using its authority to drive unhoused people from public spaces, a practice that re-traumatizes those people and does nothing to solve homelessness, it is dangerous to provide them with additional powers to do so.[22] The legislation does not set meaningful standards to guide judicial discretion and does not delineate procedures for those decisions.[23] It establishes a contradictory and unworkable procedure by which a petition may be made on an allegation that a person “lacks medical decision making capacity”[24] On a mere showing of “prima facie” evidence that the petition is true, the person is then required to enter into settlement discussions with the county behavioral health agency.[25] If someone lacks decision-making capacity, they would not be able to enter a settlement agreement voluntarily. Unless the parties stipulate otherwise, failure to enter a settlement agreement results in an evaluation by that same behavioral health agency, which is used to impose a mandatory, court-ordered course of treatment.[26] This process is entirely involuntary and coercive. The role of the behavioral health agency poses a great potential for conflicts of interest, as they will presumably be funded to carry out the Care Plans that result from their negotiations and their evaluations. The CARE Court plan threatens to create a separate legal track for people perceived to have mental health conditions, without adequate process, negatively implicating basic rights.[27] Even with stronger judicial procedures and required clinical diagnoses by mental health professionals, this program would remain objectionable because it expands the ability of the state to coerce people into involuntary treatment. CARE Court will harm Black, brown, and Unhoused people The CARE Court directly targets unhoused people to be placed under court-ordered treatment, thus denying their rights and self-determination. Governor Newsom, in pitching this plan, called it a response to seeing homeless encampments throughout the state of California.[28] CARE Court will empower police and homeless outreach workers to refer people to the courts and allow judges to order them into treatment against their will, including medication plans. Despite allusions to “housing plans,” CARE Court does not increase access to permanent supportive housing and, indeed, the bill prohibits the court from requiring the county to provide actual housing.[29] Due to a long history of racial discrimination in housing, employment, access to health care, policing and the criminal legal system, Black and brown people have much higher rates of homelessness than their overall share of the population.[30] The CARE Court plan in no way addresses the conditions that have led to these high rates of homelessness in Black and brown communities. Instead, it proposes a system of state control over individuals that will compound the harms of homelessness. Further, much research shows that mental health professionals diagnose Black and Latino populations at much higher rates than they do white people.[31] One meta-analysis of over 50 separate studies found that Black people are diagnosed with schizophrenia at a rate nearly 2.5 times greater than white people.[32] A 2014 review of empirical literature on the subject found that Black people were diagnosed with psychotic disorders three to four times more frequently than white people.[33] This review found large disparities for Latino people as well. CARE Court may place a disproportionate number of Black and Latino people under involuntary court control. ” SJG Sex Slave Uni [view link] Claudette Colbert [view link] The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter - 2013 School of Rock AllStars Team 4 [view link] Pleaser 10 inch [view link]
• TheeOSU

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  ^ I suppose that deep down you know that you need help for your mental illness and you feel that by bumping this thread that they'll notice you and come take you away. Courtesy of your ex wife... [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  May 9th Can CARE Court curb CA’s homelessness and mental health crises? [view link] Of course what they think is indicative of mental illness will just be someone who refuses to discuss their affairs with a therapist. And indicative of severe mental illness will be someone who refuses to listen to their doctor and take their meds Gavin sees all of California as a 40 million bed mental hospital. SJG TJ Street [view link] Sex Slave Uni [view link] Pleaser 10" [view link]
• TheeOSU

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  They're coming for you... [view link]
• TheeOSU

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  here... [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  Disability Rights California Opposes Gavin Newsom's CARE Courts (March 7) [view link] And they address it, not with therapists, but with attorneys. 1 hour 25 min town hall meeting about it: [view link] And all of this is the direct continuation of Gavin's Medical Police State Approach to COVID. And it is this Dr. Mark Ghaly too. SJG Linda Ronstadt - You're No Good - 2016 School of Rock AllStars Team 6 [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  Gavin's housing stuff is just to get people into mental health internment camps, which he really wants to make the whole state into. [view link] [view link] [view link] [view link] SJG
• TheeOSU

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  ^ нейродивергентный Сан-Хосе ползучести neyrodivergentnyy San-Khose polzuchesti FACT!
• san_jose_guy

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  Calif. 'CARE Courts' Spark Concerns Over Forced Treatment [view link] Gavin's plan draws more opposition. " On the other side, CARE courts are opposed by more 50 advocacy organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union California Action, the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law, the California Psychological Association, Disability Rights Advocates, Human Rights Watch, Mental Health America of California, the National Homelessness Law Center, Psychologists for Social Responsibility and the Racial and Ethnic Mental Health Disparities Coalition. In an opposition letter to Umberg, who is chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, ACLU California Action along with more than 40 signers said current state law requires the offering of a voluntary treatment plan before a finding can be made that a person lacks medical decision-making capacity. "Under the language of SB 1338, the process is reversed: a person is first found incompetent to make decisions about medical treatment and, only after such finding, offered any information about the proposed treatment," the April 21 letter said. The opponents also said the use of the terms "supported decision-making" and "supporter" in the bill obscures the involuntary element of CARE courts. John Raphling, a senior researcher at Human Rights Watch, an international human rights advocacy organization, said in a recent interview that the proposed CARE court bill contains a lot of wordplay and that lawmakers are pushing it through without asking enough questions. "The [CARE court] process is you either enter into an agreement to have the treatment that we want you to have, or the judge will order you to do the treatment that we want you to have, so it's coerced care, and that's highly problematic from a civil and human rights perspective," Raphling said. " [view link] SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  California Senate Votes to Support CARE Court, as Leading State Business Organizations Join Expanding Coalition [view link] ” Prior to today’s affirmative Senate floor vote, the CARE Court bill – SB 1338 by Senators Tom Umberg and Susan Eggman – passed the Senate Appropriations committee in a 7-0 vote last week. This means that CARE Court has been considered by three separate committees and has passed every single one without any opposing votes, and has now cleared the Senate with bipartisan support. ” Our local government always tries to turn poverty and homelessness into mental health issues, so that they can further subjugate people. Resistance is being organized, Underground Railroad, Safe Houses, and strategies to resist the authorities f2f. And of course the problem is compounded because some of the targets will go along with all of this. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  Without funding, governor’s CARE Court plan is just an empty gesture [view link] SJG Gimme Shelter, School of Rock [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  A very good 36 min audio about Care Courts and the fierce opposition from Civil Rights Groups: [view link] SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  Today is election day in CA. Opposition to Gavin's Care Courts. I think the author is the ranking State Assembly Republican. She is not objecting to the Medical Police State aspect, she is objecting to the unrestrained free housing and the cost of that. [view link] The stuff she likes though is for those who want to live by the rules. So there is no coercive or mental health dimension. I don't agree with this guy, but I often read books I strongly don't agree with, just to be able to answer the arguments. [view link] SJG How come nothing I ever got to do in high school was like this? [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  Michael Shellenberger [view link] Everything wrong is because of Benjamin Spock. Well there are a lot of people who believe things like that. But it is not universal. Problem now is that Gavin is trying to reinforce these kinds of Republican views, just so he can lever off of them. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  Shellenberger's book is stupid, as I suspect are his sources, but I want to see. He references Gowan: Hobos, hustlers, and backsliders : homeless in San Francisco / Teresa Gowan (2010) [view link] Circles of recovery : self-help organizations for addictions / Keith Humphreys Humphreys, Keith (2004) SJG
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  NGO’s will try to house people, but they have no illusion that they could ever house everyone. So they only offer it to those who really do want to live by their rules, which means staying clean and sober. And there is no mental health component. Gavin, on the other hand, is eyeing the windfall tax revenues from the COVID upwards wealth siphon. So his approach is not just housing, it is internment of a perceived social menace, and this is why it is built first and foremost around courts and mental health. Trump had talked about internment camps, but Gavin is the one who actually believes that he can do it. We all want to see that everyone is always housed, and we need a strong public housing offering to contain private real estate gentrification. But before we can get there, broad based public understanding will have to built. And people have to understand how the mental health system is what enforces the dictates of capitalism, and how people are tracked into it by the family. SJG Santana - Oye Como Va - School of Rock Chicago @ Double Door 4.17.16 [view link] [view link] [view link]
• TheeOSU

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  Are you still out there running loose creep? Gavin and his team should have nabbed your mentally ill homeless ass and committed you by now. It appears that they are just as inept as you are, that's a real shame!
• TheeOSU

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  Or is that shane? Lulz!
• Champphilly

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  OP: better seek treatment. Omg.
• san_jose_guy

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  Mental illness is a myth, and most of the time those who go along with it have been tracked into that situation by the family. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  We all want to see that everyone is always housed, and we need a strong public housing offering to contain private real estate gentrification. But before we can get there, broad based public understanding will have to built, so that we are ready for deeper changes in the presumptions upon which our economic system is predicated. And people have to understand how the mental health system is what enforces the dictates of capitalism, and how people are tracked into it by the family. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  Now this player starts a little slow, unless you just start at the beginning. THis is 6/21, CA State Assembly Judiciary Committee, and opposition to Gavin's Psychiatric Police State, Care Courts SB1338, continues to build: [view link] Here at 2:28 discussion of SB1338 starts [view link] Here at 2:40 testimony begins with some compelling opposition. You can click on the link below, or you might best just advance the player to 2:40 yourself [view link] 3:24. Assembly Committee members begin to debate [view link] This Richard Bloom is the author of the Assembly version of the bill. Someone who is completely pro-Mental Health and an idiot. [view link] This BRIAN MAIENSCHEIN is a Democrat, but before 2019 he was a Republican, and he represents the San Diego area. Assemblymember, District 77 who will speak later is a real piece of work. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  The most interesting commentary is from Ash Kalra, former San Jose City Council and former Public Defender. His comments and questions are critical. And will end up being the only No vote amidst 9 Yes votes. 3:35 Now it goes to the Assembly Health Committee and Appropriations Committee. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  The bill's author and Gavin's representative Mark Ghaly, don't even seem to know how the bill works. Seems that it puts people into conservator ship. All of this is in complete violation of due process and completely unconstitutional. 3:41 in video [view link] SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  So to make this player work, seems like the best way is to download the player and the video by clicking on this link to the start of the video: [view link] Then click on the link to get to the place you want, like this is where the Ash Kalra questions start: [view link] Kalra is the only one who voted against this, but listening to them it seems like many of the Assemblymembers would have wanted to vote no. There must be some kind of external pressure, like the mental health system itself. It does seem like even the author, Thomas Umberg, and Gavin's spokes person, Mark Ghaly, do not know what this bill really does. It does seem like the real intent is to get them into housing, voluntarily or not, and then that housing means psychiatric supervision. And if they don't cooperate, they don't get cited for illegal camping, they get put into conservatorship. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  So to make this player work, seems like the best way is to download the player and the video by clicking on this link to the start of the video, and then press play on it: [view link] And then here, Eloise Gómez Reyes [view link] It seems like what this really does is us the idea of "Extreme Mental Illness" to force someone into court under threat of being placed into conservatorship, and then they are placed into housing, but they are still under court supervision, just like someone on probation. So long as they stay in that housing, then they will eventually "graduate from Care Court". But anyone who is unhoused is always suspected of "Extreme Mental Illness" and forced to be under court supervision. SJG
• TheeOSU

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  So how was your junteenth holiday? I didn't see you online, did you have a good day? Does the fact that you weren't online juneteenth contribute to your obsessive compulsive needs to compensate for that by posting 4 times in this thread in less than an hour? Perhaps there's some mental illness involved in your obsessive compulsive needs to post 4 times in this thread in less than an hour?
• TheeOSU

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  Scratch that, not 4 times, 5 times in less than an hour! Perhaps there's some mental illness involved in your obsessive compulsive needs to post 5 times in this thread in less than an hour?
• TheeOSU

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  BTW, how was your juneteenth holiday? Did you participate in the joyous celebrations?
• TheeOSU

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  The reason I ask is because we didn't see you online so the logical deduction was you were having a great time celebrating juneteenth.
• TheeOSU

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  Hey look here, I've now posted 5 times here in less than an hour, but in my case I'm talking to you. In your case you're talking to yourself? Do you see the difference?
• TheeOSU

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  Huh? Do you see the difference? The difference of the differences would explain on whether you should seek some form of mental examination? It wouldn't hurt.
• TheeOSU

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  It would only help, after all we are here for you but it's up to you to take that first step in seeking help. Then it's one step after another on the path to wellness.
• TheeOSU

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  Wow, that was seven posts in less than an hour but it's all about you getting the treatment you truly deserve because we are all here for you!
• TheeOSU

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  Did I already ask, how was your juneteenth holiday Monday? Did you participate in the joyous celebrations?
• TheeOSU

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  We can only speculate that juneteenth Monday was a glorious day of celebration for you!
• TheeOSU

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  You're probably so overwhelmed by that joyous day that you're having a hard time expressing your gratitude for our new holiday!
• TheeOSU

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  I know I'm full of gratitude< I'd like to see every Monday thru Saturday become a national holiday. Think about it, 6 holidays a week every week then we could all rest every Sunday! Wouldn't that be great!
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  As someone who has had a fair amount of experience with the homeless, it's really a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If you try to round them up and move them away from residential areas, someone is screaming about human rights abuses and due process. If you build more shelters or temporary housing but prohibit them from using drugs and alcohol, most of them will choose to stay on the streets. If you build transitional housing but continue to let them abuse substances, the place will be a filthy slum in under 6 months and you'll be accused of housing them in inhumane/unsanitary conditions. And of course if you don't do anything, they crowd convenient streets, usually near to where the food services are, and turn them into a wasteland with trash, discarded needles and feces/urine. So as much as I detest Newsom for too many reasons to count, I understand why he's pursuing this approach. He figures that his only chance to get them off the streets and make transitional housing work is to first clean them up and, where needed, get them on proper meds in lieu of self medicating. Truth be told I'd probably consider this as solid a plan as I've ever seen to tackle the homeless problem if not for the compelled treatment aspect, which to me is just chilling.
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  So to make this player work, seems like the best way is to download the player and the video by clicking on this link to the start of the video, and then press play on it: [view link] Then you've just go to move it forward: 4:22 Brian Maienschein is really a piece of work. Republican until 2019, then a Democrat. Talks about having case workers to "make sure people take their medications". What this really seems to be about is just criminalizing homelessness. They just don't want to call it that, so they call it Mental Health. So once they get someone into this Care Court, then it is like they are on probation and they get housing, but it is Psychiatric Policing. Only by staying in that housing can they "Graduate from Care Court". Any one unhoused will be suspected of "Extreme Mental Illness" and likely to end up in the Care Court, and on psychiatric medications. SJG
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  ^ How was your juneteenth holiday? Did you participate in the joyous celebrations? The reason I ask is because we didn't see you online so the logical deduction was you were having a great time celebrating juneteenth. We can only speculate that juneteenth Monday was a glorious day of celebration for you! You're probably so overwhelmed by that joyous day that you're having a hard time expressing your gratitude for our new holiday! I know I'm full of gratitude< I'd like to see every Monday thru Saturday become a national holiday. Think about it, 6 holidays a week every week then we could all rest every Sunday! Wouldn't that be great!
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  Care courts would also direct those with substance abuse problems to rehab and treatment. You support that though
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  I wish people would not use mood altering chemicals. But my saying that is not going to make it happen. Gavin and Mark Ghaly are tring to advance people's addictions from mere street drugs and alcohol to prescription psychiatric neurotoxins. Gavin got a taste of this medical police state with his COVID response. Now he is trying to extend it to criminalize homelessness and get people wound up in court authority and supervision. Gavin and Mark Ghaly have got to go! I am proud to say that San Jose's Ash Kalra has been the first legislator to speak out and vote against it. And resistance plans have to be made. SJG Gimme Shelter - School of Rock [view link]
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  It's ironic that with over 200 years of advancing industrial technology and so much money having been put into weaponry, that at this time when we have now the ability to covert that technology and to take care of every single person better than even royalty had lived in past centuries, and where everyone could have a life of comparative leisure, that we still allow free floating real estate prices to keep the noses of most fixed to the grind stone, and that we have now come so see a large portion of the population as completely expendable and suitable for interment and psychiatric drugging. UNHOUSED PEOPLE DESERVE PERMANENT HOUSING AND VOLUNTARY, DIGNIFIED CARE ACLU and Partners Why we vehemently oppose the governor’s “CARE Court” proposal — and so should you [view link] Full Opposition to Care Courts Letter [view link] Human Rights Watch’s Opposition to CARE Court (SB 1338) [view link] Ghaly and Umberg are not being straight about what Care Courts SB1338 does. It is the psychiatric branding, internment, and drugging of a perceived social menace, enforced by keeping people tangled up in the courts. SJG
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  Human Rights Watch’s Opposition to CARE Court (SB 1338) as amended June 16, 2022 Set for Hearing Before the CA Assembly Health Committee on June 28, 2022 [view link] Groups Are Uniting to Oppose Landmark California Mental Health Legislation [view link] It's ironic that with over 200 years of advancing industrial technology and so much money having been put into weaponry, that at this time when we have now the ability to convert that technology and to take care of every single person better than even royalty had lived in past centuries, and where everyone could have a life of comparative leisure, that we still allow free floating real estate prices to keep the noses of most fixed to the grindstone, and that we have now come so see a large portion of the population as completely expendable and suitable for internment and psychiatric drugging. Mark Ghaly and Tom Umberg are presenting SB1338 before committees. But they are not being straight about what it does or how much power it gives to its courts and to others who can refer someone to the court. The homeless are already a target, and this just makes it that much worse. Ghaly and Umberg seem to want people to trust them, but there is no basis for this trust when they continually try to avoid admitting what this legislation would do. Trying to turn poverty and homelessness into mental illness is nothing new. This is why many in need of shelters and transitional housing will decline them when they are available. They recognize that they can't put themselves into positions where they could become targets for Social Services. Ghaly and Umberg have no credibility and their deceptive role in this is shameless. SJG
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  [view link] June 24, 2022 11:00AM EDT Human Rights Watch has carefully reviewed SB 1338,[1] the amendments to SB 1338, and the proposed framework for the Community Assistance, Recovery and Empowerment (CARE) Court created by CalHHS,[2] and must respectfully voice our strong opposition. CARE Court promotes a system of involuntary, coerced treatment, enforced by an expanded judicial infrastructure, that will, in practice, simply remove unhoused people with perceived mental health conditions from the public eye without effectively addressing those mental health conditions and without meeting the urgent need for housing. We urge you to reject this bill and instead to take a more holistic, rights-respecting approach to address the lack of resources for autonomy-affirming treatment options and affordable housing. CARE Court proponents claim it will increase up-stream diversion from the criminal legal and conservatorship systems by allowing a wide range of actors to refer people with schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders to the jurisdiction of the courts without an arrest or hospitalization. In fact, the bill creates a new pathway for government officials and family members to place people under state control and take away their autonomy and liberty.[3] It applies generally to those the bill describes as having a “schizophrenia spectrum or other psychotic disorder” and specifically targets unhoused people.[4] It seems aimed at facilitating removing unhoused people from public view without actually providing housing and services that will help to resolve homelessness. Given the racial demographics of California’s homeless population,[5] and the historic over-diagnosing of Black and Latino people with schizophrenia,[6] this plan is likely to place many, disproportionately Black and brown, people under state control. CARE Court is Coerced Treatment Proponents of the plan describe CARE Court in misleading ways as “preserving self-determination” and “self-sufficiency,” and “empower[ing].”[7] But CARE Court creates a state-imposed system of coerced, involuntary treatment. The proposed legislation authorizes judges to order a person to submit to treatment under a CARE plan.[8] That treatment may include an order to take a given medication, including anti-psychotic medications, housing, and other enumerated services.[9] Housing must be provided through a designated list of existing program that includes interim housing or shelter options that may be unacceptable to an individual and unsuited to their unique needs.[10] The CARE Court proposal does not provide additional housing and does not envision enforcement of long-term prioritization of housing for its graduates. A person who fails to obey the court ordered treatment plan may be referred to conservatorship, which would potentially strip that person of their legal capacity and personal autonomy, subjecting them to forcible medical treatment and medication, loss of personal liberty, and removal of power to make decisions over the conduct of their own lives.[11] Indeed, the court may use failure to comply with their court-ordered treatment as “a presumption at that hearing that the respondent needs additional intervention beyond the supports and services provided by the CARE plan” paving the way for detention and conservatorship.[12] In practical effect, the mandatory care plans are simply pathways to the even stricter system of control through conservatorship. This approach not only robs individuals of dignity and autonomy but is also coercive and likely ineffective.[13] Studies of coercive mental health treatment have generally not shown positive outcomes.[14] Evidence does not support the conclusion that involuntary outpatient treatment is more effective than intensive voluntary outpatient treatment and, indeed, shows that involuntary, coercive treatment is harmful.[15] Coerced Treatment Violates Human Rights Under international human rights law, all people have the right to “the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health.”[16] Free and informed consent, including the right to refuse treatment, is a core element of that right to health.[17] Having a “substitute” decision-maker, including a judge, or even a “supporter,” make orders for health care can deny a person with disabilities their right to legal capacity and infringe on their personal autonomy.[18] The Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities establishes the obligation to “holistically examine all areas of law to ensure that the right of persons with disabilities to legal capacity is not restricted on an unequal basis with others. Historically, persons with disabilities have been denied their right to legal capacity in many areas in a discriminatory manner under substitute decision-making regimes such as guardianship, conservatorship and mental health laws that permit forced treatment.”[19] The US has signed but not yet ratified this treaty, which means it is obligated to refrain from establishing policies and legislation that will undermine the object and purpose of the treaty,[20] like creating provisions that mandate long-term substitute decision-making schemes like conservatorship or court-ordered treatment plans. The World Health Organization has developed a new model that harmonizes mental health services and practices with international human rights law and has criticized practices promoting involuntary mental health treatments as leading to violence and abuse, rather than recovery, which should be the core basis of mental health services.[21] Recovery means different things for different people but one of its key elements is having control over one´s own mental health treatment, including the possibility of refusing treatment. To comport with human rights, treatment should be based on the will and preferences of the person concerned. Housing or disability status does not rob a person of their right to legal capacity or their personal autonomy. Expansive measures for imposing mental health treatment like the process envisioned by the CARE Court plan infringe on it and discriminate on the basis of disability. As discussed below they also run the risk of being abused by self-interested actors. This coerced process leading to “treatment” undermines any healing aim of the proposal. CARE Court Denies Due Process The CARE Court proposal authorizes family members, first responders, including police officers or outreach workers, the public guardian, service providers, conservators, and the director of the county behavioral health agency, to initiate the process of imposing involuntary treatment by filing a petition with the court.[22] These expansive categories of people with the power to embroil another person in court processes and potential loss of autonomy, many of whom lack any expertise in recognition and treatment of mental health conditions, reveals the extreme danger of abuse inherent in this proposal. For example, interpersonal conflicts between family members could result in abusive parents, children, spouses, and siblings using the referral process to expose their relatives to court hearings and potential coerced treatment, housing, and medication. Law enforcement and outreach workers would have a new tool to threaten unhoused people with referral to the court to pressure them to move from a given area. These state actors could funnel those who disobeyed their commands into the CARE Court process and potentially under the control of courts. Given the long history of law enforcement using its authority to drive unhoused people from public spaces, a practice that re-traumatizes those people and does nothing to solve homelessness, it is dangerous to provide them with additional powers to do so.[23] The legislation does not set meaningful standards to guide judicial discretion and does not delineate procedures for those decisions.[24] It establishes a contradictory and unworkable procedure that allows certain people diagnosed with schizophrenia or other psychotic disorders to be ordered into treatment if, among other criteria, a judge believes that they are unlikely to survive safely in the community without supervision, or that they are at risk of relapse or deterioration into grave disability or serious harm. [25] These criteria are extremely subjective and speculative and subject to bias. The court commences the process of engagement if a petition merely asserts facts supporting eligibility and attaches documentation of either contact or attempted contact with a behavioral health professional or of prior intensive treatment.[26] If the court finds the person meets or “likely meets the criteria,” then the court orders a hearing, which may be conducted in the person’s absence.[27] At the hearing, if the court examines the “prima facie” evidence presented by the petitioner and finds “reason to believe the facts stated in the petition appear to be true,” the person is then required to enter into negotiations with the county behavioral health agency to come up with a purportedly voluntary treatment plan.[28] The role of the behavioral health agency poses a great potential for conflicts of interest, as they will presumably be funded to carry out the Care Plans that result from their negotiations and their evaluations. However, failure to agree to that supposedly voluntary plan results in a court-ordered evaluation by that same behavioral health agency, which can be used to impose a mandatory, court-ordered course of treatment if the court finds the person meets the criteria following a hearing.[29] Once ordered, if a person does not complete the CARE program, they may be “involuntarily reappointed” to the program for an additional year.[30] This process is entirely coercive, despite procedures that claim to be voluntary. Welfare and Institutions Code section 5801(b)(5), as amended by SB 1338, makes this coercion clear: "The client should be fully informed and volunteer for all treatment provided, unless… the client is under a court order for CARE pursuant to Part 8 (commencing with Section 5970) and, prior to the court-ordered CARE plan, the client has been offered an opportunity to enter into a CARE agreement on a voluntary basis and has declined to do so."[31] The CARE Court plan threatens to create a separate legal track for people perceived to have mental health conditions, without adequate process, negatively implicating basic rights.[32] Even with stronger judicial procedures, this program would remain objectionable because it expands the ability of the state to coerce people into involuntary treatment. CARE Court will harm Black, brown, and Unhoused people The CARE Court directly targets unhoused people to be placed under court-ordered treatment, thus denying their rights and self-determination. Governor Newsom, in pitching this plan, called it a response to seeing homeless encampments throughout the state of California.[33] CARE Court will empower police and homeless outreach workers to refer people to the courts and allow judges to order them into treatment against their will, including medication plans. CARE Court does not increase access to permanent supportive housing or mental health care and instead relies on existing programs and service providers that already struggle to meet the needs of the unhoused.[34] Due to a long history of racial discrimination in housing, employment, access to health care, policing and the criminal legal system, Black and brown people have much higher rates of homelessness than their overall share of the population.[35] The CARE Court plan in no way addresses the conditions that have led to these high rates of homelessness in Black and brown communities. Instead, it proposes a system of state control over individuals that will compound the harms of homelessness. Further, much research shows that mental health professionals diagnose Black and Latino populations at much higher rates than they do white people.[36] One meta-analysis of over 50 separate studies found that Black people are diagnosed with schizophrenia at a rate nearly 2.5 times greater than white people.[37] A 2014 review of empirical literature on the subject found that Black people were diagnosed with psychotic disorders three to four times more frequently than white people.[38] This review found large disparities for Latino people as well. CARE Court may place a disproportionate number of Black and Latino people under involuntary court control. CARE Court Does Not Increase Access to Mental Health Care The CARE plan would establish a new judicial infrastructure focused on identifying people with mental health conditions and placing them under state control for up to 24 months. While touted as an unprecedented investment in support and treatment for people with mental health conditions, in reality, the program provides no new funding for behavioral health care, instead re-directing money already in the budget for treatment to programs required by CARE Court.[39] According to the DHHS presentation on the proposal, the only new money allocated for the program will go to the courts themselves to administer this system of control.[40] The court-ordered plans include housing, but not necessarily permanent supportive housing.[41] The proposal seems to anticipate allowing shelter and interim housing to suffice if available, without recognizing the vast shortage of affordable housing, especially supportive housing, throughout most of California.[42] To the extent the proposal relies on state investment in housing already in existence, it will prioritize availability of that housing for people under this program, meaning others in need would have reduced access to that housing. California Should Invest in Voluntary Treatment and Supportive Services CARE Court shifts the blame for homelessness onto individuals and their vulnerabilities, rather than recognizing and addressing the root causes of homelessness such as poverty, affordable housing shortages, barriers to access to voluntary mental health care, and racial discrimination. CARE Courts are designed to force unhoused people with mental health conditions into coerced treatment that will not comprehensively and compassionately address their needs. Californians lack adequate access to supportive mental health care and treatment.[43] However, this program does not increase that access. Instead, it depends on money already earmarked for behavioral health initiatives and layers harmful and expensive court involvement onto an already inadequate system. Similarly, the “Care plans” mandated by the CARE Courts do not address the shortage of housing. Investing in involuntary treatment ties up resources that could otherwise be invested in voluntary treatment and the services necessary to make that treatment effective.[44] California should provide well-resourced holistic community-based voluntary options and remove barriers to evidence-based treatment to support people with mental health conditions who might be facing other forms of social exclusion. Such options should be coupled with investment in other social supports and especially housing, not tied to court-supervision. Rather than co-opting the language used by movements supporting housing and disability rights and cynically parading the trauma of family members let down by the state mental health system, as proponents of CARE Courts have done, we instead ask that you reject the CARE Court proposal entirely and direct resources towards making voluntary treatment and other necessary services accessible to all who need it. Sincerely, Olivia Ensign John Raphling Senior Advocate, US Program Senior Researcher, US Program Human Rights Watch Human Rights Watch [view link] SJG
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  Recent News California’s Fight Against Homelessness Has Turned Desperate and Dangerous [view link] ^This is interesting but I only partially agree. I think this current push to medicalize homelessness is partly because of public pressure and frustration, but this has happened in CA before. I think it is also just because of how Gavin Newsom thinks, Medical Police State, Internment Camp, Psychiatric Hospital. And we saw this in his COVID response. I think it is probably because of the people he surrounds himself with. Worthy of high suspicion being Mark Ghaly and Thomas Insel. How brother of a 9/11 firefighter is helping house West L.A. homeless veterans [view link] Oakland, Livermore Among California Cities Receiving Millions to Combat Family Homelessness [view link] Mathews: Homelessness is California’s most durable hobby horse Residents rank homelessness as our state’s biggest problem. But it’s not too big to be solved [view link] In My Humble Opinion one of the things which is driving this contentiousness about homelessness in CA is this idea that there is free housing available, but the homeless will not take it. And so they then try to make it into a mental health issue. Well I don't know what the real status on this are. I doubt there is that much such housing really available, and some people will take it. But I think there is another problem, many unhoused persons already know that such housing is already set up to work like a psychiatric internment camp, and that they place themselves at risk by talking to the authorities. And then with this Tiny House idea, that violates building codes. Bathrooms too small, bathroom door open onto kitchens. Recreational Vehicles can be like that, but permanent buildings cannot, and for good reason. So people know that if they let themselves be shoved into that, it is internment. They are being made into a public spectacle and object of pity. And then I hear increasingly of stories of police in some cities harassing the homeless by trying to get biographical information out of them. "How long have you been homeless? Don't you have relatives around here?" This kind of info has nothing to do with any present situation which police could have a reasonable interest in finding out about. They are just trying to build a biography, and that will always be for building a mental health case and for internment. So I think many know that they must stay away from police, social workers, and anything related to this Housing First idea. So like tents on sidewalks, riverways, or anyplace else, are always much safer. What will really solve the problem is just to first of all admit that by advanced industrial and information technology we have spawned a large underclass that has had to learn to live on the margins. Until we instead go to Universal Basic Income and a Strong Public Housing Offering, and fire from public service anyone trying to medicalize this, there will be no improvement. SJG Cream - White Room - Chicago School of Rock Live Aid show [view link]
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  Even as it is now, many who are experiencing homelessness know that they have to stay away from what sheter and transitional housing space is available, lest Social Services be given a chance to construct a biography on them and then this be used to support a mental health case against them. In municipalities across California now, there are more and more accounts of the unhoused being targeted for police harassment. Officers are asking them personal things, things which have no possible relation to anything presently at hand which the officer could be concerned about. Officers will ask things like, "How long have you been homeless?" or "Don't you have relatives around here?" These officers are trying to build a biography on the party, as that is the beginnings of making a mental health case against them. Not all of the unhoused necessarily know right now how important it is to draw a privacy line with police. And not all police take well to someone who does that. We all want to see that everyone is always housed, and we need a strong public housing offering to contain private real estate gentrification. But before we can get there, broad based public understanding will have to built, so that we are ready for deeper changes in the presumptions upon which our economic system is predicated. Only when we have these changes in understanding can we have universal housing, instead of psychiatric internment and forced drugging. And people have to understand how the mental health system is what enforces the dictates of capitalism, and how people are tracked into it by the family. Groups Unite to Oppose Landmark California Mental Health LegislationSTOP USING HOMELESSNESS TO HATE ON CALIFORNIA [view link] Opponents of the legislation say SB 1338 dangerously expands judicial power and empowers the criminal justice system to commit people to mental health treatment that is sub-par – and often against their will. There is also the potential for misdiagnosis, they warn. “CARE Court promotes a system of involuntary, coerced treatment, enforced by an expanded judicial infrastructure, that will, in practice, simply remove unhoused people with perceived mental health conditions from the public eye without effectively addressing those mental health conditions and without meeting the urgent need for housing,” read the Human Rights Watch’s (HRW) opposition letter. “We urge you to reject this bill and instead to take a more holistic, rights-respecting approach to address the lack of resources for autonomy-affirming treatment options and affordable housing,” the letter said. STOP USING HOMELESSNESS TO HATE ON CALIFORNIA [view link] Michael Shellenberger, a progressive turned right-wing darling. Shellenberger used homelessness and public drug use to argue—in his book San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities and a campaign for governor—that Democrats had caused nothing less than “the breakdown of civilization” on the West Coast. “It was Democrats, not Republicans, who played the primary role in creating the dominant neoliberal model of government contracting to fragmented and often unaccountable non-profit service providers that have proven financially, structurally and legally incapable of addressing the crisis,” Shellenberger wrote in San Fransicko. SJG 2017 School of Rock AllStars Team 1, Led Zeppelin [view link]
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  This is unbelievable, they don't talk about Universal Basic Income or Public Housing, but the people running California are committed to Social Workers, Psychiatrists and Drugging and Psychotherapists, a Mental Hygiene State. The ACLU, the Ella Baker Center and a long list of civil and disability rights groups giving an impassioned objection to this, but the people running California do not care. They are just tired of the encampments. And they are tired of dealing with people that are products of the mental health system. So the solution then is to expand the mental health system and create special courts to enforce it. Gavin and Mark Ghaly's Care Courts is not law but it is close. The only hope now is that it will prove to be unenforceable and will be blocked by higher courts. But how many people will be fed psychiatric neurotoxins before that happens.? SJG 2017 School of Rock AllStars Team 1 at the Pike Room Full Show HD [view link]
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  Unfortunately Care Courts is still proceeding ahead at full speed. And Gavin Newsom is not smart enough to have cooked this up all by himself. Testimony from the human rights groups should stop these people dead in their tracks, but they just blow it off. Seeing and hearing her for the first time at the Health Committee, this State Senator Susan Eggman has really got me alarmed. She is on the very highest of high horses. She has developed this language for talking about this so that it does not sound like she is dehumanizing people and putting them into internment camps, even though this is exactly what she is doing. Eggman is projecting her own demons out onto vulnerable parts of our population. And Gavin copies this. But some of these city mayors are less slick in what they say: [view link] The CA Central Valley is more conservative in how they vote than the coast. But muni Sacramento, Stockton, and Fresno are pretty tough and bread and butter towns, and they will usually elect Democrats. But this time there have been surprise Republican victories, and it is being presented like homelessness is the driving issue. And they are trying to make homelessness synonymous with severe mental illness. So above we hear the Republican Mayor of Sacramento talking about Conservatorship and saying "no one should be living on the street". This is what it seems to come down to, forcing people to cooperate with the mental health system and the housing authorities, or be subjected to conservatorship. Human Rights Watch says that it is about removing people from public view. Most unhoused people refuse housing because there is not that much of it available, and because they know that they must not talk to the authorities or it will be used to make a mental health case against them. They don't want their affairs to be run by Social Workers, they don't want to get thrown into internment camps. It seems like, where as, there are criminal laws like trespassing, illegal camping, and blocking the sidewalk, which could be invoked, these laws are often impractical to enforce. Our jails are already full. So instead they are joining homelessness, drug addiction, and severe mental illness together. Anyone who will not cooperate and accept the drugs and the internment will be subject to conservatorship. Susan Eggman and what she is involved is not just the work of any one person, it is a concerted effort to do something down right demonic which will effect the course of life for 40 million people. SJG Jane School of Rock [view link] [view link]
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  Here Eggman presents something else SB 1335 [view link] More Eggman, SR 92 [view link] Senator Kamlager Remarks on SB 1338 CARE Court [view link] SJG Jane - School of Rock [view link]
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  More Eggman CCSWG WOMENS RECOVERY RESPONSE/EQUAL PAY DAY PRESSER ^ not sure if she is in this. She really alarms me! SJG
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  ^ video mentioned above CCSWG WOMENS RECOVERY RESPONSE/EQUAL PAY DAY PRESSER [view link] SJG
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  Here they talk more about Care Courts [view link] SJG
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  No to CARE Court: Meet the Advocate - May 16, 2022 Western Center on Law and Poverty [view link] SJG Jefferson Starship - Jane - 2018 School of Rock AllStars Team 6 [view link]
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  [view link] Underground bunker full of stolen goods found at homeless camp: photos SAN JOSE, Calif. (KRON) — San Jose Police officers recovered stolen firearms, tools, and equipment from an underground bunker at a homeless encampment in San Jose on Tuesday, according to a tweet from SJPD. San Jose Police patrol officers continued to follow up on a commercial burglary that happened Monday. The investigation took police to a homeless encampment near Coyote Creek and Wool Creek Drive. Warning FOX News: 2 viral videos paint disturbing picture of California's homeless crisis [view link] IF WE ARE GOING TO START POLICING PEOPLE PSYCHIATRICLY AND THEN INCARCERATING THEM FOR WHAT THEY MIGHT DO, THEN ALL HOPE IS LOST! SJG
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  CARE Court: Can California counties make it work? [view link] ^ This is a good article, not mental health abolitionist, but it raises the questions the counties are, no resources but mandates. And it shows how foolish Care Courts really is. Reservations from Counties [view link] “We’re going to release them back into the streets but we expect them to continue to adhere to the care plan and continue to be taking medication,” said Shonique Williams, a statewide organizer for Dignity and Power Now, who opposes the proposal. “But they’re going back into survival mode.” [view link] SJG White Room, School of Rock [view link]
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  Local Service Organizations Tapped For Statewide Homelessness Initiative [view link] looks like we get one free LA Times view per day Mental Health Money [view link] Grand jury: Mental health failures are making Alameda County’s homeless crisis worse [view link] Causes of Homelessness [view link] Less Housing for Mentally Ill Homeless [view link] California considering mandatory mental treatment Courts would decide whether to order medication and housing for the severely mentally ill [view link] “The pandemic and the introduction of fentanyl into the drug scene has just wiped out people’s mental health” I know very little about fentanyl. But I can't see that "mental health" treatment or conservatorship would be appropriate. Seems like those would be just ways of discarding due process. [view link] "California’s CARE Court bill aims to provide preemptive treatment before an involuntary hospital stay, an arrest, or guardianship, which restricts a person’s right to make decisions such as consenting to medical treatments, owning property, marrying, voting, or choosing where to live." " Under the CARE Court program, a concerned party could ask a county court to order a clinical evaluation of a person struggling with a severe psychotic disorder. Concerned parties might include family members, licensed behavioral health providers, charity workers, or first responders. If the court agreed that the person needed treatment, the county and the participant would establish a one-year care plan for providing medicine and housing with the help of a support person. Opponents of the proposal do not like that the court could order “involuntary treatment” such as medication for severely ill patients who are resistant to care. Human Rights Watch said the system would “rob individuals of dignity and autonomy” through “a system of involuntary, coerced treatment.” " Human Rights Watch Opposition [view link] Union Rescue Mission [view link] " Under the CARE Court program, a concerned party could ask a county court to order a clinical evaluation of a person struggling with a severe psychotic disorder. Concerned parties might include family members, licensed behavioral health providers, charity workers, or first responders. If the court agreed that the person needed treatment, the county and the participant would establish a one-year care plan for providing medicine and housing with the help of a support person. Opponents of the proposal do not like that the court could order “involuntary treatment” such as medication for severely ill patients who are resistant to care. Human Rights Watch said the system would “rob individuals of dignity and autonomy” through “a system of involuntary, coerced treatment.” " " Bram Begonia, president of the Bay Area Rescue Mission, said he doesn’t believe involuntary treatment will be as effective as his organization’s holistic approach, which emphasizes helping people voluntarily transform their mind, body, and soul. Begonia said recovery has two basic steps: the person struggling with mental health issues must admit there is a problem and want a solution. “Those two things seem to be very overlooked from a human rights standpoint in this bill,” Begonia said. " [view link] Guilde: This is very true minor legal problems often derail the lives of those with limited resources and social backup! [view link] SJG very clever adaptation: [view link]
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  There is no such thing as Mental Illness, but we are turning lots of other things into Mental Illness. For one thing, drug addiction is not Mental Illness. But we are acting like it is, particularly with this Care Courts homelessness program. And Care Courts can involve court ordered drugging! We have a broken economic system, broken since the 1870's, and becoming more and more unworkable each decade. The COVID crash was the last straw. This is not Individual Mental Illness, but it is mass hysteria. We are treating poverty and homelessness as Mental Illness. And then we have the abuses and scapegoating of the middle class family. This is not Mental Illness, but we are treating the survivors as though they suffer from Mental Illness. SJG
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  Care Courts lol. Fucking intellect of a 3 YEAR OLD.
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  Care Courts, Gavin Newsom, Susan Eggman, Tom Umberg, Mark Ghaly, it is all real stupid. Trying to set up a psychiatric police state. Gavin thinks this way, and Eggman does too. SJG Sergei Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 3 | Khatia Buniatishvili (piano), Neeme Järvi (conductor) [view link] Schumann: Klavierkonzert ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Khatia Buniatishvili ∙ Paavo Järvi [view link] Zubin Mehta, Khatia Buniatishvili, Israel Philharmonic - Schumann, Op. 54 (without crickets) [view link] Piano Duel - Yuja Wang vs. Khatia Buniatishvili [view link]
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  Welcome to the Hotel California [view link] (We need a strong public housing offering, to rein in private gentrification. We don't allow market forces to control agricultural land, we can't let them control housing either.) SJG high heels don't seem to interfere with using the piano pedals. I had wondered about this. Piano Duel - Yuja Wang vs. Khatia Buniatishvili [view link] How about extreme high heels and automobile pedals? Some don't have much knee room under the dashboard.
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  I heard feces on the streets were really starting to build up and was gunking people's car wheels. Did it get so bad it even skidrow'd it's way into Beverly hills?
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  Sjg why are you personally so triggered by any mention of psychiatric treatment?
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  Tiburon, a lot of people are unhoused, and especially in CA. And Icee, there is no such thing as Mental Illness. There never has been. It is all just a rationalization for making a society run by thought police and mind control. SJG [view link] [view link] PBS Newshour Today [view link]
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  What is your vested personal interest in denying the existence of mental illness?
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  ^ What is your vested personal interest in trolling TUSCL dougee? BTW, both of you nutjobs should be committed!
• san_jose_guy

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  To Protect Freedom of Thought. No one should ever submit to the Mental Health System under any circumstances. It is just a use of power, those who have institutional and cultural power oppressing those who are most vulnerable. SJG
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  ^ You still pissed because gavin wants you committed as a psychotic homo? [view link]
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  Gavin Newsom and Susan Eggman like persecuting this societies scapegoats. SJG
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  "To Protect Freedom of Thought. No one should ever submit to the Mental Health System under any circumstances. It is just a use of power, those who have institutional and cultural power oppressing those who are most vulnerable." Like my gay friends have gay-dar, I have mental-dar. I can pick out fellow head cases from a mile away. You, my friend, set off _screaming_ alarms. Air raid sirens. Flashing lights that could cause a million epileptic seizures. Autism, schizophrenia straight out of central casting. Maybe if you submitted to it, you might be happy. It's obvious your penis hasn't been in a woman's mouth in at least a decade, this is the next best thing.
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  There is no such thing as mental illness or autism. It is all a scam, just a made up justification for delegitimating people whom they know will not fight back. SJG
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  Sjg has anyone ever accused you of being mentally ill
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  ^ The answer is yes both him and you too dougee! Lulz
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  @icee, I just did. Because he is. I'd bet my left testicle that 10 out of 10 psychiatrists would diagnose SJG with something significant.
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  10 Psychiatrists in this world is 10 too many. We need to eradicate the entire mental health system. [view link] SJG
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  ^ Yes, fight the mental health system, 36 hours a week, from the San Jose Public Library.
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  The mental health system is a civil rights problem and a political problem. And I am not stupid, I always maintain a privacy wall to protect my f2f life from the online keyboard kowards. SJG
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  ^ So says the king of overshares here... No one cares about your F2F life. You're boring, Walter Mitty. Admitted you'll never fulfill any of your threats. Another internet talker.
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  I'm not someone who attacks our board members or trys to attack their f2f life. SJG [view link] Jan 6th [view link]
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  ^ I'm sorry, what have you threatened to do to board members here? I've never threatened violence against a single person here. I'm pretty reserved about talking about my F2F life too, since I value my privacy. If you value yours, I'd suggest the same.
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  I protect the privacy of my f2f life. I do not trifle with those who attack it. But I also do not attack the f2f lives others. I respect them. SJG [view link] Jan 6th [view link]
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  ^ No one is attacking it. No one cares. I sure don't.
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  Your private life isn't private. You told us about your divorce your sex life with your ex wife. Dating a crazy girl in an asylum. The type of hookers you like. Shit about prostate massages and pegging. How you used to get wifi at a retail business you worked at before the shutdowns. But you'll threaten us with sewing our assets shut and sending out the retarded commandos when we ask the last time you went to a club
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  ^ A historic moment on TUSCL! I actually agree with something iceydougster said. Probably be the only time, he's still a FUCKHEAD but he's still my homie lulz
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  mental health facilities should be abolished YEAH!!!!....until you get stabbed by a mentally unsound person then your wondering..."fuck why isn't this guy in some sort of special mental ward".
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  Icee I do most definitely censor and protect my private life. I protect my f2f life so I don't need to issue threats. Tiburon, if we are going to start locking people up for the crimes they might commit, then all hope is lost. Mental Illness is just a way for those with power to abuse those who have not. ************** Judge: Homeless Oakland camp tenants can’t be evicted without relocation plan Temporary restraining order against Caltrans extended to late August [view link] SJG
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  Does sewing asses shut represent a denial of pleasure to you since you like anal play? Or does it represent rejecting anti psychotic suppositories?
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  It makes it tangible to some assholes that my F2F life is private, and it is protected. SJG
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  No it isn't.
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  Keyboard Kowards tend to post negative meta-narratives until they decide that they want to get a life. SJG
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  What is the worst thing that can happen if a homeless person gets medical help and housing? You complain about mental health being so repressive. But you were still able to date a girl who was institutionalized. So it can't be that bad
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  THe girl who was institutionalized was in a residential setting and I met her by chance. It was a very light institutionalization. BUt as I posted, the most significant thing about her was just how much a social disadvantage she was at by virtue of being institutionalized. THis was why I decided to break it off. Felt like I would be taking unfair advantage of her. ANd the only reason for this was her institutionalization. Medical help as people want it yes, and housing as people want it. But never internment or psychiatric labeling, which is what Newsom and Eggman are trying to do, and which is why they have a lot of support from local governments. Eggman had made a life for herself persecuting the scapegoats of The Family. Local governments are always controlled by real estate interests. Human rights and civil liberties groups are all in vociferous opposition to care courts. People have live and they should not be fucked with. SJG Back to Ohio [view link]
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  Gavin is a loose cannon! Gavin Newsom’s plan to save the Constitution by trolling the Supreme Court [view link] Human Rights Watch’s Opposition to CARE Court (CA SB 1338) after careful review of most recent amendments [view link] City Residents Refuse to Press Charges Against Homeless Criminals [view link] Homeless people wait as Los Angeles lets thousands of federal housing vouchers go unused [view link] Homeless in California: Americans forced to camp in the desert – podcast | NewFGN News [view link] 28 min audio Homeless in California: the Americans forced to camp in the desert [view link] 5 unhoused people die everyday in Los Angeles County Lancaster CA, use zoom outs to see where this is, 10 miles east of Santa Clarita, getting close to Barstow. [view link] R. D. Laing completed his psychiatry training and then was placed in charge of an asylum, the women’s section. He treated them just by talking to them like he would anyone else, and by taking them all outside. He treated them with fresh air and sunlight. Soon he felt that they were all well. Maybe not completely well, be well enough to go home. But then within 6 months they were all back again. So to Laing it seemed that this status of being ~mentally ill~ was being generated within The Family. So he and Aaron Esterson set about to study this. The narratives, all true, and quite compelling. [view link] SJG
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  Editorial: The false promise of Gov. Gavin Newsom’s CARE courts [view link] Governor Newsom calls for large Oakland encampment to be cleared [view link] Is San Francisco's homeless plan on the right path? Civil liberties may stand in the way [view link] Civil liberties concerns poised to kill proposals to get people with mental illness off the street [view link] THERE IS NOT ENOUGH OF AN ANTI-MENTAL HEALTH MOVEMENT SJG Vanilla Fudge [view link]
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  Baby boomers facing spike in homelessness: "As much as we try, we might be stuck" [view link] SJG
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  There is this guy they say is Gavin's Mental Health Advisor, and he has some Online Mental Health Startup. Though your phone I think they audit you, kind a like Scientology. This seems to be part of where Care Courts came from. I posted some about this before. Now trying to find it again. Might be related [view link] also [view link] " Talkspace is an online and mobile therapy company based in New York City. It was founded by Oren and Roni Frank in 2012. Talkspace users have access to licensed therapists through the website or mobile app on iOS and Android. " ^ these are different founders. Mental-health monitoring goes mobile Startup [view link] analyzes smartphone data to remotely predict when patients with mental illnesses are symptomatic This Startup Wants To Track Your Smartphone — To Improve Your Mental Health [view link] [view link] [view link] [view link] Mental Health Apps Are Exploding in Popularity, but Are They Effective? [view link] This stuff is like Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, and 1984 combined. But not sure how to find the one that specifically connect to Gavin and to show this. THis is based in San Francisco, but not sure it is the right one. [view link] SJG
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  Governor Newsom Promotes Physical Fitness and Mental Well-Being with Advisory Council [view link] I am sure that this kind of stuff is all very similar to Scientology Auditing. This could be the guy, Bill Resnick, Aspen Institute, very much a Gates - Walton affair. [view link] Michael J. Stubbs [view link] InsightLA [view link] – and on the advisory board of UCLA’s Resnick Neuropsychiatric Hospital. also Dr. Dan Siegel, Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the UCLA School of Medicine and the founding Co-Director of the Mindful Awareness Research Center Rick Warren is where the Recovery Movement and UC Irvine's Integrative Psychiatry Program fuse together with the Born Again Movement. Gavin Newsom seem attracted to the place where the New Age Movement joins with Mental Health and Recovery. And what these two conjunctures have in common is that they both prey on the poor and on the survivors of abuse. Gavin has always presented himself as Liberal Democrat. But his first wife was a Far Right Republican. SJG
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  ALso on Gavin's Advisory Board [view link] [view link] " What’s Mindsight? “Mindsight” is a term coined by Dr. Dan Siegel to describe our human capacity to perceive the mind of the self and others. It is a powerful lens through which we can understand our inner lives with more clarity, integrate the brain, and enhance our relationships with others. Mindsight is a kind of focused attention that allows us to see the internal workings of our own minds. It helps us get ourselves off of the autopilot of ingrained behaviors and habitual responses. It lets us “name and tame” the emotions we are experiencing, rather than being overwhelmed by them. " What’s Interpersonal Neurobiology? Interpersonal neurobiology, a term coined by Dr. Siegel in The Developing Mind, 1999, is an interdisciplinary field which seeks to understand the mind and mental health. This field is based on science but is not constrained by science. What this means is that we attempt to construct a picture of the “whole elephant” of human reality. We build on the research of different disciplines to reveal the details of individual components, while also assembling these pieces to create a coherent view of the whole. The Mindsight Institute Through the Mindsight Institute, Dr. Siegel offers a scientifically-based way of understanding human development. The Mindsight Institute serves as the organization from which interpersonal neurobiology first developed and it continues to be a key source for learning in this area. The Mindsight Institute links science, clinical practice, education, the arts, and contemplation, serving as an educational hub from which these various domains of knowing and practice can enrich their individual efforts. Through the Mindsight Institute’s online program, people from six continents participate weekly in our global conversation about the ways to create more health and compassion in the world. [view link] There is still another shrink that is influencing Gavin that I have not located yet. SJG
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  Editorial: Don’t count on Newsom’s CARE Courts to save San Francisco [view link] Monkeypox, CARE court, social media accountability: What to watch as California lawmakers return [view link] " Gov. Newsom’s CARE Court push Governor Gavin Newsom’s proposal to get the severely mentally ill off the streets or out of jail and into treatment has just a couple of obstacles left in the legislative process. CARE Court would establish a new judicial branch in all California counties to provide court-ordered care to an estimated 7,000 to 12,000 people. Opponents have raised concerns that a lack of housing and workforce could falter the plan. " Human Rights Watch’s Opposition to CARE Court [view link] Skid row homeless shelter pleads for water donations amid heat [view link] Looks like we get one free LA Times view per day [view link] More housing isn’t the solution to homelessness — it’s treatment [view link] This idea of "mental illness" is always used to delegitimate and attack those who have the least power in our society. SJG Figureoa [view link] Awesome [view link] Joe Bonamassa's Pentatonic Sequences [view link] Joe Bonamassa Official - "Breaking Up Somebody's Home" - Live At The Greek Theatre [view link]
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  What Michael Shellenberger is saying in his book is just plain wrong. I only post about it because I see the problem with Gavin and his mental health police state: [view link] [view link] Tom Insel [view link] cofounder of Mindstrong [view link] "He has also co-founded Humanest Care, NeuraWell Therapeutics, and MindSite News and is a member of the scientific advisory board for Compass Pathways, a company that is developing the psychedelic drug psilocybin to treat depression and other mental health disorders. His book, Healing: Our Path from Mental Illness to Mental Health was published by Penguin Random House in February, 2022." THIS SOUNDS A LOT LIKE SCIENTOLOGY AND ITS "AUDITING". [view link] [view link] Healing: Our Path from Mental Illness to Mental Health This Thomas Insel is a nightmare come to life. We must fight this in every necessary way! SJG Figureoa [view link] Awesome [view link] Joe Bonamassa's Pentatonic Sequences [view link] Joe Bonamassa Official - "Breaking Up Somebody's Home" - Live At The Greek Theatre [view link]
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  Holy Shit, on the rear flap of the dust jacket of Insel's book it says, "Since May 2019, Dr. Insel has been a special advisor to California Governor Gavin Newsom and chair of the Steinberg Institute in Sacramento, California." SJG
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  " Thomas Roland Insel (born October 19, 1951) is an American neuroscientist, psychiatrist, entrepreneur, and author who led the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) from 2002 until November 2015.[2] Prior to becoming Director of NIMH, he was the founding Director of the Center for Behavioral Neuroscience at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia.[3][4] He is best known for research on oxytocin and vasopressin, two peptide hormones implicated in complex social behaviors, such as parental care and attachment.[5][6] He announced on Sept. 15, 2015, that he was resigning as the director of the NIMH to join the Life Science division of Google X (now Verily Life Sciences). " SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  The idea that someone is ~Mentally Ill~ usually does start within the family: Letters to the Editor: Families of mentally ill Californians need Newsom’s CARE Courts [view link] Clock ticking for legislature to pass controversial Care Court proposal Major concerns persist over how Care Court would be funded and whether it would infringe on the civil liberties of those it is designed to help. [view link] ********************************* [view link] So this Thomas Insel is a special advisor to Gavin Newsom, he says. His book: Healing our path from mental illness to mental health. [view link] He describes a "mental health crisis." He lists Psychiatrists, Psychologists, Licensed Clinical Social Workers and a few other categories and how many of them there are in the entire country. And he totals them up to get 693,000, or 213.2 per 100,000 population. And he describes them as, "The Mental Health Work Force". These are tasked with addressing the "mental health crisis". And then he explains that ~mental illness~ causes 47,000 suicide deaths in the US each year, or one every 11 minutes. And then I agree with him that these shootings really have to be interpreted as suicides. But that is all I agree with. The rest of what he says horrifies me. The only ~mental health crisis~ we have is because of these 693,000 ~mental health workers~ spreading the fraud that their is such a thing as ~mental illness~ Insel is in favor of all drugging. And he is in favor of Electro Convulsive Therapy (electro shock), and the Transcrainial Magnet (inducing neural currents with a high energy magnetic pulse.) He seems to want involuntary treatment, though I still have to read that section. And his company Mindstrong is to have people talking with their therapist through their cell phone regularly, in a manner which is suggestive of Scientology and Auditing. Everybody needs to be continually monitored for the onset of ~mental illness~ in Insel's world. he also has these: Numan, Michael, 1946- The neurobiology of parental behavior / Michael Numan, Thomas R. Insel. (2003) The Psychobiology of obsessive-compulsive disorder / Joseph Zohar, Thomas R. Insel, Steven A. Rasmussen, editors (1991) So in 2015 he left the directorship of NIMH to go to the Life Sciences Division of Google, now Verily Life Sciences. [view link] South San Francsico Projects include: The Baseline Study, a project to collect genetic, molecular, and wearable device information from enough people to create a picture of what a healthy human should be. Baseline Study: [view link] [view link] of Insel "He has also co-founded Humanest Care, NeuraWell Therapeutics, and MindSite News and is a member of the scientific advisory board for Compass Pathways, a company that is developing the psychedelic drug psilocybin to treat depression and other mental health disorders." And he also writes that he is the chairman of the Steinberg Institute in Sacramento. And Mindstrong also includes co-founders Richard Klausner and Paul Dagum. Steinberg Institute Steinberg Institute – Advancing Brain Health Policy & Inspiring ...[view link] The Steinberg Institute. We are an independent, nonprofit public policy institute dedicated to advancing sound public policy and inspiring leadership on issues ... [view link] they are claiming a legislative package which runs over the last 4 years, and always about ~mental health~ [view link] OUR MISSION Dedicated to advancing sound public policy and inspiring leadership on issues of brain health [view link] " There are three indisputable facts about mental health in California. First, everyone knows someone who suffers from brain illness, though it is rarely discussed. Second, brain health affects virtually every major budget and policy issue addressed by government: criminal justice, housing and homelessness, the plight of veterans, children and education, and more. Third, with rare exception, few governors, legislators, or other elected officials choose to prioritize or work substantially on brain health issues. What’s more, advocacy organizations have collectively struggled to develop and articulate a comprehensive legislative agenda to elevate mental health as a state priority. The Steinberg Institute was created to upend the status quo and dramatically raise the profile and increase the effectiveness of mental health policy-making in California. Founded by Sacramento Mayor and former state Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, the institute is an independent nonprofit organization dedicated to advancing sound public policy and inspiring leadership on issues of brain health. " " Our founder, Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg delivers a passionate TEDx talk. He sheds light on the most under attended issue of our time – mental illness. " Feb 2016 The future of mental health | Darrell Steinberg | TEDxSacramento [view link] [view link] " Mental Healthcare Advocate Throughout his legislative career, Steinberg has been a strong advocate for mental health care. He has called it “the under-attended issue in our time and in our society.” He is known within the mental health community as a long time champion.[16] Steinberg became passionate about mental health during his time on the Sacramento City Council. In 1997, the City of Sacramento engaged in a lawsuit against Loaves and Fishes, a private charity providing food to the homeless. The free lunches began to draw thousands of homeless people which had become a nuisance to local business near the shelter in North Sacramento.[17] Former Mayor Joe Serna and then Councilmember Steinberg were the only two members to vote against the lawsuit. Upon further investigation into the rapidly increasing homeless population, Steinberg discovered that an overwhelming portion of homeless suffered from mental illness and did not have access to proper mental health care. He took up working on ways to help solve this issue.[18] " " AB 34 Pilot Projects During his first year in the State Assembly, Steinberg authored AB 34, which began three pilot projects that provided integrated services to the homeless in Stanislaus, Los Angeles and Sacramento counties. The pilot was so successful in lowering hospitalization, incarceration and homeless episodes the program was expanded to more than 30 counties in late 2000 as AB 2034. Data collection by the pilot programs demonstrated the success of the services being provided.[19] " " Mental Health Services Act Steinberg authored Proposition 63, the California Mental Health Services Act, approved by California voters on the November 2004 statewide ballot. The act imposes a 1% tax on incomes of $1,000,000 or more for mental health funding.[20] He co-authored "Prop 63" with advocate Sherman Russell Selix, Jr.[21] In the first five years, the program has provided mental health care to 400,000 Californians.[22] The Mental Health Services Act includes a “whatever-it-takes” approach to support services for people with severe mental illness and is the first of its kind in the United States. Services can include providing a safe place to live, a job, help in school, physical health care, clothing, food, or treatment when a mental illness and a substances abuse disorder are combined. These are examples of full service partnerships which have been proven to be effective in helping people with severe mental illness transition successfully to independent living situations.[22] The Act also provides Prevention and Early Intervention services (PEI). PEI improves mental health care treatment by creating programs in places where mental health services are not traditionally given, such as schools, community centers and faith-based organizations.[23] The intent of PEI programs is to engage individuals before the development of serious mental illness or serious emotional disturbance or to alleviate the need for additional or extended mental health treatment. The Mental Health Services Act has proven to be a cost-effective way to address mental health care. A 2012 report found that every dollar spent of mental health services in California saved roughly $0.88 in costs to criminal justice and health, and housing services by reducing the number of arrests, incarcerations, ER visits, and hospitalizations.[24] " [view link] Prop 63 [view link] I guess this was 2004 [view link] Curious, about 1.5 years ago I met a woman who was telling me how Reagan had closed the mental hospitals. I said, "Good, we should not have such, and we should eradicate the entire mental health system." She was enraged by my position. But I also couldn't fathom her position, supporting the mental health system. I guess she saw it as providing for the needs of the vulnerable. Maybe like a homeless shelter. But why organize it around ~Mental Health~? That is just a way to delegitimate people. This is about Skid Row in Los Angeles. Used to be that Skid Row as were the poor people went. Now they are making it all about ~mental illness~ [view link] I am surprised that someone who talks like this Darrel Steinberg could have gotten elected to anything, let alone mayor of a big city. The more I look at this the more it blows my mind. People should be calling a general strike and blockading the streets to bring an end to this. SJG This girl little bit older and heavier, looks a little more garish. She has an appeal because she gets out there and shows her stuff. Full height stripper shows and lots of makeup, but not much else. [view link]
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  I guess I've always known that there is a mental health system, and known that it is something one must stay out of. The movie, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" convinced most people of this. But the mental health system has expanded, especially with the drugging, and with it becoming more and more an extension of law enforcement. And then I guess with the 2008 economic crash, a lot more people had their lives turned upside down and ended up destitute, and that makes them targets for Mental Health. And then this has continued as they talk about doing things for the homeless, but they never really do, it is just psychiatric policing. And then in the 80's and 90's, the big boom in 12 step recovery groups, and courts sending people to these, which they should not. That I think has corresponded to a boom in psychotherapy. Gavin Newsom has always been a twit. I remember the first time I heard his name and voice, when he was just elected San Francisco Supervisor. And then this Susan Eggman. And then this Thomas Insel. And then the hardest to fathom, that this Darrel Steinberg could get himself elected Mayor of Sacramento. And that was back in 2016. COVID made it worse, got our public health officials used to having dictatorial power. Got people like Gavin Newsom used to grand standing. Took another permanent chunk out of the jobs market as firms were opening back up leaner. But I see now that Care Courts is only the tip of a huge iceberg of ~Mental Health~ stuff. It is rather like we are instituting a new kind of slavery, a new system where much of the the population is delegitimated, and where we have a new master class to rule over them. The employment market has been degraded decade by decade because of advancing industrial and information technology. But rather than celebrating that as giving us a leisure state. We still keep most people in harness feeding the free floating real estate market. And then we classify those who have been forced out as a menace, and see them as suitable for internment and medicating, and then to be subjected to something like Scientology Auditing in Insel's Mindstrong. Out advanced industrial and information technology will let us take care of every single person better than even royalty had live in past centuries. But instead we are trying to set up a new two tier society, something like slavery, and using this idea of ~Mental Health~ to organize it. SJG Figueroa [view link] Jane - School of Rock [view link]
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  I guess this Thomas Insel is really committed to chemical mood alternants: humanest Unlock the neuroscience of the ‘humanest high’ [view link] He really is committed to chemical escape! "Tools that are effective at improving mental health exist, but 90% of people do not have access to them." He has defined "mental health" as dissociation, the purple beyond, and endorphin rush. [view link] [view link] Neura Well [view link] [view link] Thomas Insel, M.D. Tom lnsel, M.D., a psychiatrist and neuroscientist, has been a national leader in mental health research, policy, and technology. From 2002-2015, Dr. Insel served as Director of the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH). More recently (2015 – 2017), he led the Mental Health Team at Verily (formerly Google Life Sciences) in South San Francisco, CA. In 2020, he co-founded Humanest Care, a therapeutic online community for recovery. Since May of 2019, Dr. Insel has been a special advisor to California Governor Gavin Newsom and Chair of the Board of the Steinberg Institute in Sacramento, California. He is the author of the forthcoming book Healing: Our Path from Mental Illness to Mental Health, to be published by Penguin Random House. He is currently developing MindSite, a non-profit digital publication focused on mental health issues. Dr. Insel is a member of the National Academy of Medicine and has received numerous national and international awards including honorary degrees in the U.S. and Europe. [view link] Compass Pathways COMPASS Pathways: our vision is a world of mental wellbeinghttps://[view link] COMPASS is a mental health care company dedicated to accelerating patient access and experience to evidence-based innovation in mental health care. [view link] Our vision is a world of mental wellbeing. COMPASS is a mental health care company dedicated to accelerating patient access to evidence-based innovation in mental health. Our first programme is researching how COMP360 psilocybin therapy could help people with treatment-resistant depression. We want to transform the patient experience in mental health care. I don't agree with Michael Shellenberger. But I do want to understand what he is saying about Thomas Insel and Gavin Newsom [view link] This stuff in this video, its rather like Oliver Stone's mini-series, Wild Palms. They want to use LSD to control people's dreams, and they are using the fallacy of ~Mental Illness~ to jusify this. [view link] Allen: Now, I know that you have spoken with leaders in California and other West Coast cities that are experiencing these issues. Do they recognize that there is an issue? And if so, why aren’t they taking steps to actually bring change? Shellenberger: This is the craziest thing. I found a lot of agreement from both liberals and conservatives for the program that I’m advocating, which is just a modified Dutch model, a modified European model. I interviewed California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s top adviser on mental health, homelessness, and addiction. His name is Thomas Insel. He worked at the National Institute of Mental Health for 12 years. He was the director of the National Institute of Mental Health. The man and I had a Zoom conversation for over an hour. He’s got his own book coming out. And we were finishing each other’s sentences. We didn’t disagree on anything, literally zero. We had zero disagreements. And I just asked him, I was like, “Tom, can you go talk to the governor? What’s going on? Why is this not happening?” He just was like, “Well, the people in Sacramento, they say you have to modify the Constitution.” OK, so let’s modify the Constitution. That’s actually not as hard as it may sound. We pass ballot initiatives all the time in California to modify the Constitution. We love to do that in California. He finally said, and he said it six times in our interview, “It’s a leadership problem. It’s a leadership problem. It’s a leadership problem,” which is as close as he would come to basically saying Gavin Newsom is not the leader that we need, because obviously Tom Insel has to be a political person. He’s a very good person, by the way. It’s not a criticism at all. We’ve got a problem with our political leadership. Obviously, I think you need new leadership in California. Can someone beat Gavin Newsom next year in the run for governor? Very hard. Gavin Newsom has so much money. So to some extent, what I’m talking about here is the need for significant political change. I think that Democrats certainly need to change, but I think Republicans need to contest Democrats and Democratic rule on these issues. I’ll tell you something that really I found inspiring, is that the way that in Amsterdam, in the Netherlands, it took political change, it took, really, a political revolution whereby the center-right defeated the left-wing parties on this issue, on this issue of open drug scenes, and that is why … the Dutch government has been a center-right government. If it were translated into American context, it might be more like center-left. I don’t know. But in the Netherlands, it was center-right. They defeated the left on this issue. So what I would say to my Republican friends, and I’m an independent, is, I would say, start competing with Democrats on this issue. Have a proper agenda. I think that that’s not just what it’s been to date. I think what it’s been to date is, I hear Republicans and conservatives talk a lot about the need for the churches and the charities and private-sector solutions. That’s not good enough. There has to be a governmental response. For me, if the center-right is going to be the change that we need in the world, then they need to change, I think, the agenda that they’re offering. And we’re starting to see some of that. I did see Republican candidates in the recall that just failed attempt to offer that. But I think much more should be done both at the state and the federal level by conservatives and Republicans to offer a proper agenda to deal with this problem, because in California it’s the No. 1 issue. It’s not the No. 1 issue nationwide, but it’s the No. 1 issue in California. And it’s also now a big issue in Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, New York, other big cities where conservatives, Republicans, center-right candidates want to start contesting Democratic rule. Allen: In the model that you have created, taking pieces from the Netherlands, what they do there, and how to address homelessness, drug addiction, mental health, what is step one? What is the action that progressive cities need to take today to start fixing this problem? Shellenberger: Yeah, the first thing is, shut down the open-air drug dealing. There’s no need for that. Build emergency shelters. Require people to use them. Do triage. If you want to earn housing, then make progress on your personal plan. I think the issue needs to be handled statewide so that people that are arrested in the open drug scene in San Francisco can get treatment in Fresno, can get treatment a couple hundred miles away, away from where the temptations of drugs are. I’m completely practical when it comes to dealing with addiction. Some addicts need opioid substitutes. They might need methadone or Suboxone as a substitute. That’s fine. I think that there’s something more heroic about becoming completely sober and abstinent, but I think we’re dealing with a massive drug epidemic and we can’t be perfectionist about this or we can’t make the perfect the enemy of the good. So shelter first, treatment first, housing earned, make psychiatric and addiction care a statewide function, create Cal-Psych, and then we probably need to—I’m not totally sure. It was funny, because I would get to this place with this book where I go, “Gosh, is the problem the liberal laws, is it the liberal judges, or is it the politicians and the public?” It’s kind of all three. One question is, how much can be done under existing laws? The short answer is a lot. Do we need to change some of the laws too? Probably, but again, that’s what you have leadership for. … For example, if we had a truly great governor, the governor would come in and would do as much as you could through executive order. You would then put forward a big legislative package or separate legislative vehicles, it depends, in front of the legislature, and then you would also put a bunch of initiatives on the ballot. The thing is, the great thing about having an emergency, a true crisis like this one, is that you have the will of the people to want to solve this. The public in California are just—we’re fed up. People are fleeing the state. We’re desperate. Honestly, it’s gotten so bad that the real issue, I think, is just the cynicism, that people believe that nothing can be done, and we ended up losing some of our best and brightest people to New York and Miami and other states. Allen: Yeah. Well, you’ve been living in this world for so long. Are you able to kind of walk out the other side of all this research optimistic? Do you think that there can actually be real change? Shellenberger: I do. I find hope in a couple of different areas. First of all, I think that the culture is changing. I think that we are in the midst or we’re at the beginning of a backlash against cancel culture, against woke religion and woke ideology. It’s interesting, there are even some liberals and leftists that are expressing support for my position on drugs as well as on energy. They’re starting to do so on Twitter. They get shouted down by other progressives, but they’re starting to kind of poke their head up out of the tunnels to say, “Hey, I think Shellenberger is making a good point about this. It’s not moral to have people with schizophrenia on the street.” So that’s starting to happen in the culture. I love these long-form podcasts because one of the problems that this issue has had is that people go, “Well, it’s really complex,” and that’s been a way to dismiss having the conversation about what to do about it. Long-form podcasts are a way to talk about the complexity in a way that it’s just much harder to do on television and sound bites. So I’m excited about what’s happening in the culture. Then I just think there is a big opportunity politically for somebody to offer—honestly, I genuinely believe it could come from either the center-right or the center-left. California has an open primary system, so you could have a Democrat run on this agenda against Gavin Newsom next year, you could have a Republican run, or you could have an independent run. It seems to me that there’s a big amount of space for some political entrepreneur who picks up this agenda. I and my organization have helped to create a new statewide coalition called the California Peace Coalition, because we don’t have peace in the streets, we don’t have peace in people’s minds. And we’ve attracted support from parents of kids killed by fentanyl, parents of kids addicted to fentanyl, recovering addicts, community leaders, and just interested citizens like myself. I do think that it’s created a kind of opportunity for a different approach than the one that’s been pursued either by the left or the right on these questions for the last 30 years. Allen: The book is “San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities.” You can follow Michael on Twitter, @ShellenbergerMD. You can get a copy of the book on Amazon, Barnes & Noble. You can listen to it on Audible. Michael, we could keep going, but want to let you go. Thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate your insight. Shellenberger: It was a pleasure speaking with you. Thanks for having me on. Have an opinion about this article? To sound off, please email [view link] and we’ll consider publishing your edited remarks in our regular “We Hear You” feature. Remember to include the url or headline of the article plus your name and town and/or state. SJG Figueroa [view link] This girl little bit older and heavier, looks a little more garish. 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  Paul Summergrad & Thomas Insel: Future of Psychedelic Psychiatry [view link] And Insel writes in all his startup company bios that special advisor to California Governor Gavin Newsom. SJG
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  Can Smartphones Solve the Mental Health Crisis? | Tom Insel | TEDxVeniceBeach [view link] SJG This girl little bit older and heavier, looks a little more garish. She has an appeal because she gets out there and shows her stuff. Max height stripper shows and lots of makeup, but not much else. [view link]
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  San Fransicko by Michael Shellenberger I have read some of this and strongly disagree with the author. But I also know that this is some of the thinking which is behind Newsom and his Care Courts Psychiatric Police State. Now Thomas Insel says that nationwide there are 47,000 suicides annually, over 3x the firearm killings annually. And that is a huge number. But there are other ways of interpreting this besides mental illness. This Darrel Steinberg, Mayor of Sacramento is also big player in this. Insel and Steinberg both wanting to get around ACLU opposition and change laws to get more conservatorships. Shellenberger also wants all of this too, but he also wants to crack down on the homeless more. I see how Newsom is able to stand in the middle of this and make himself look like a liberal, where as Newsom the rest of them are all totalitarians, as also are Susan Eggman and Tom Umberg and Richard Bloom. Shellenberger is just a loud mouthed idiot. He wants to define the unhoused as criminal deviants and crack down on them. So it sound like SF Mayor Frank Jordan's Matrix Program, Police writing citations for sleeping. But Shellenberger wants to couch it as for the good of the unhoused, so it is about mental health. Shellenberger got 4% of the primary vote. What I find more dangerous are Newsom, Insel, Steinberg, Eggman, Umberg, and Bloom. They are trying to set up a mental health dystopia, as if we were not already living in that. Shellenberger has also written: [view link] [view link] SJG miggs : "Let The Games Begin" starring LINDSAY LOHAN (OFFICIAL VIDEO) [view link] live, all electric [view link]
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  Shellenberger is a guy writing from a position of outrage. He sees the unhoused as bringing about complete anarchy, as many laws have become unenforceable. And this is simply because there were big up ticks in homelessness with the 2008 crash, and with the COVID crash. As far as open air drug dealing, maybe the authorities see it as not worth enforcing the law, not worth taking up jail space. I know San Francisco has been like this for a long time. Ask someone for directions and they try to sell you drugs. Then they expect a donation for having given you directions. Never seen this in San Jose. Sacramento has long been a pretty tough an unruly town. I think that is a lot of what is driving this. The unhoused are getting impossible to control, but that is mostly because there are so many of them. And it was after 2008 that they first started talking about giving the unhoused housing. And some of this has been done. But my concern is more about how they are intent on making this into a mental health issue, a Psychiatric Police State. We need to be eradicating the mental health system, not making it metastasize. SJG Figueroa will be getting better now that CA has lifted the loitering with intent law [view link] miggs : "Let The Games Begin" starring LINDSAY LOHAN (OFFICIAL VIDEO) [view link]
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  I noticed during the COVID shut down that people had tents set up in lots of places where they wouldn't have been able to before. Retail businesses closed, why not. But then after the shutdown lifted, they had to move. San Francisco is just a lot more wild and wooly. I know from having worked in a group to try and offset the effects of the Born Again Groups on the poor and the homeless, that drugs are endemic with the unhoused. And so any thing you try to do will be constrained by drug effects. And this is a big part of what is being used to rationalize a mental health approach. It will be the selling and the using. Your just engaging with a contingent that has for so long lived outside of the law and without much above ground income. But a Mental Health approach will not help. Now of course Universal Basic Income and a strong public housing offering goes a long way. You don't want any needs tested programs because that always makes the recipients the scapegoats, and then you are halfway there to having it be a mental health program already. UBI, everyone gets it. And Public Housing, available to whom ever wants it. I am seeing the main players in this as not being Richard Bloom or Tom Umberg. I am seeing them as Gavin Newsom, Thomas Insel, Darrel Steinberg, and Susan Eggman, and each one of these four is very strange and very much a problem. I think Insel and Steinberg are the most strange. Insel is committed to chemical mode alteration, like all prescription drugs, drugs that give you the euphoic high of sex, LSD, and then to regular Scientology like Auditing over the cell phone. Steinberg I had not know about. He is probably the source of an idea now found among liberals that Mental Health treatment is more humane than criminal prosecution and more humane than poverty. But in fact they use mental health treatment to get into things that would be impractical to prosecute criminally because there are so many unhoused. And as far as being more humane than poverty, it is social marginalization which causes poverty. Mental Health treatment is just more abuse and marginalization. SJG miggs : "Let The Games Begin" starring LINDSAY LOHAN (OFFICIAL VIDEO) [view link] Best of Aerosmith 2021 - Aerosmith Greatest Hits Full Album [view link] Aerosmith - Walk This Way (from You Gotta Move - Official Video) [view link]
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  " The ACLU is a leading opponent of Gov. Gavin Newsom’s plan to establish civil courts to help treat people with severe mental illnesses. The group says it will lead to “forced treatment” of unhoused people, with police and others given far too much leeway to trample on the autonomy of those who refuse aid. " (the idea that someone is ~mentally ill~ usually starts within the family and is sustained within the family. This is one of the reasons why Care Courts is so dangerous) [view link] Clock ticking for legislature to pass controversial Care Court proposal Major concerns persist over how Care Court would be funded and whether it would infringe on the civil liberties of those it is designed to help. 2 Killed as Fleeing Car Hits Tents at LA Homeless Encampment Authorities say a driver who was fleeing police crashed into a homeless encampment in South Los Angeles, killing a man and a woman. [view link] Transcript: Ezra Klein Interviews Thomas Insel [view link] ^ audio Not sure what the real status of care courts is right now. One of the more enigmatic people in this, as I am seeing it, is Sacramento Mayor Darrel Steinberg. And this Thomas Insel is a Science Fiction Dystopia Made Flesh. SJG Jane - School of Rock [view link]
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  Thomas Insel interview audio [view link] Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg, one of our more enigmatic figures [view link] WATCH: Mayor Darrell Steinberg to deliver 2022 State of the City address [view link] Sacramento Mass Shooting | Mayor Darrell Steinberg answers questions following the shooting [view link] Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg addresses homeless encampment cleanup [view link] Full interview: Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg talks about his reaction to mass shooting [view link] Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg explains 'Right to Housing' proposal [view link] Sacramento business owners asking Mayor Darrell Steinberg to make city safer, cleaner from homeless [view link] The future of mental health | Darrell Steinberg | TEDxSacramento [view link] Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg speaks after 12 separate shootings over the past few days [view link] Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg Unveils His Master Plan To Address Homelessness [view link] Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg reacts to the death of a homeless person during winter storm [view link] Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg wants 24/7 homeless respite center [view link] SJG Jane - School of Rock [view link]
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  How is it that people come to believe in ~Mental Health~ and come to believe that everyone needs it, needs check ups, treatment, and recovery? Where I live the entire lower third of the socio economic scale is plagued with this idea of ~mental illness~. SJG
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  Tell Governor Newsom: We Do Not Need CARE Court (SB 1338) Join us in signing this open letter to OPPOSE the Governor's "Care Court" Proposal by August 5, 2022. [view link] SJG
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  We have to organize against the mental health system. As long as we do not challenge it, and as long as we allow our government to license Psychotherapy, then we are in a Psychiatric Police State where forced procedures are just a phone call away. And we all are expected to disclose our affairs to therapists where learning to blame ourselves for the injustices which have shaped our lives becomes a self improvement project. Darrell Steinberg Mayor of Sacramento [view link]
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  At a synagogue service in 2008, Sen. Darrell Steinberg holds his daughter Jordana, then 14, while his son Ari, then 11, stands behind him. [view link] They say that Jordana had a "years long journey to a heartening recovery." All that means is that with therapists talking her out and neurotoxins being injected into her blood, she eventually caved in and decided to accept that her parents and their religious congregation where right and she was wrong. And all the more important since she had access to no one who was not in league with them and was not prepared to make a total financial break, and her parents were making such a big public display of how good they were, so she had to stuff her feelings and insights. Her parents have a lot of social power. img<src="[view link]"> Here in 2020 Steinberg talks about his own commitment to Mental Health. [view link] " As Sacramento faces an increasingly serious crisis in homelessness and mental illness, with thousands of citizens wandering the streets, many pitching tents in front of City Hall, Steinberg has continued to press for major local and state mental-health reforms. " Steinberg references his May 2020 LA Times Op-Ed [view link] SJG School of Rock Led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven [view link]
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  Discussion of CA’s Mental Health Law and specifically Laura’s Law, 8/2000 [view link] “The original 2002 law enables families with severely mentally ill relatives to access a program known as Assisted Outpatient Treatment — AOT, or “Laura’s Law ” in California. The bill, which gives family members legal recourse to get mentally ill relatives into treatment, easily passed 8-0. “We were dead in the water,” said Randall Hagar, legislative advocate for the bill’s sponsor, the California Psychiatric Association, “and all of a sudden [the bill] was ‘pending’. It was the only bill added to the committee hearing.” The Senate Health Committee’s required bill analysis was also expedited and it was joined with the Senate Judiciary Committee analysis. The measure, AB 1976 by Assemblywoman Susan Talamantes Eggman (D-Stockton), now goes to the Senate Appropriations Committee and, if approved, to the Senate floor. The original 2002 law enables families with severely mentally ill relatives to access a program known as Assisted Outpatient Treatment — AOT, or “Laura’s Law ” in California. Experts say AOT has been successful in California and other states in reducing hospitalizations, incarceration and homelessness. But California allows counties to decide whether they want to “opt-in” to the program of intensive treatment, and only 20 of California’s 58 counties have agreed to start Laura’s Law programs. Eggman’s bill would require counties to publicly state, in writing, why they choose to “opt out” of the program, would add judges to the list of those who can request treatment, and end a “sunset” provision which required renewal hearings every five years. Many of Howle’s recommendations are not new. They have been addressed by legislation, reports and recommendations spanning decades. Eggman agreed to extend the bill’s implementation for six months until July 2021 to give counties time to prepare. Laura’s Law is named for Laura Wilcox, a 19-year-old college student who was working in a Nevada County mental-health clinic in 2001, when she and two others were shot and killed by a deranged clinic client whose family had repeatedly tried to get help for him, but were rebuffed by a clinic psychiatrist. Laura Wilcox “Laura Wilcox might be alive today if this program had existed then,” Eggman told the committee. Laura’s parents, Nick and Amanda Wilcox, tirelessly lobbied state and local government for Laura’s Law and tougher gun legislation. Nick Wilcox testified at the Aug. 1 Health Committee hearing that the county programs have saved lives and reduced costly institutionalization. “We’ve been approached many times by people who have told us that Laura’s Law saved the lives of their family members,” he said, by getting them into intensive treatment. Most people voluntarily enter the program, but the law also provides for court oversight and intervention to ensure treatment. Disability rights groups have long opposed the law, saying it infringes on civil rights, and county mental health directors – while supporting the concept of the law – dislike adopting it without more funding, and they say it places additional burdens on already strapped local programs. Decades of bills, reports, recommendations Many of Howle’s recommendations are not new. They have been addressed by legislation, reports and recommendations spanning decades. But an increasing number of mentally ill Californians wander the streets, recycle through overwhelmed hospital emergency rooms, or end up in jails and prisons that have become de facto mental institutions ill-equipped to house, much less help them. In the detailed, 120-page audit, in the works since last summer, Howle specifically addressed the 1967 Lanterman-Petris-Short (LPS) Act , the landmark law that has governed mental-health care in California with few changes for more than half a century. The auditor did an in-depth analysis of involuntary mental health treatment procedures (LPS “holds” and conservatorships) in three California counties – Los Angeles, San Francisco and Shasta. Howle was particularly critical of state oversight of programs primarily run by California counties, which receive billions in federal and state funds for mental health, with little statewide coordination or comprehensive data collection. Those detained on LPS “holds” frequently end up in overcrowded hospital emergency rooms, where they too often languish without substantive – or any – treatment. Howle recommended no changes in the basic LPS criteria for involuntary treatment – originally designed to prevent the grotesque civil-rights abuses of mentally ill Californians who were confined, often for years and against their will, in aging state mental hospitals. But her report slams the lack of follow-up care for those who are detained under LPS holds, usually no more than 72 hours. The auditor also studied people placed in conservatorships – the most restrictive and long-term commitment under LPS – and concluded they receive little or no community care after leaving conservatorships. California’s mental hospitals, which also housed developmentally disabled residents, including children, often for decades, were largely closed in the 1960s and 1970s, with only a few facilities remaining, mainly for those judged criminally insane. ” ““Mental illness is a disease of the brain” – Dr. Steve Seager” We have turned into a brain chemistry police state. Darrell Steinberg and Susan Eggman are big parts of this. " Laura’s Law is named for Laura Wilcox, a 19-year-old college student who was working in a Nevada County mental-health clinic in 2001, when she and two others were shot and killed by a deranged clinic client whose family had repeatedly tried to get help for him, but were rebuffed by a clinic psychiatrist. " SJG The Pretty Reckless - Take Me Down (Official Music Video) [view link]
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  So then here is Steinberg presenting his master plan for addressing homelessness in Aug 2021. [view link] But I think this was envisioned as being just a Sacramento ordinance. So it is not explained in the above video, it is elsewhere. Steinberg explains that the offering of shelter space is not optional. It must be accepted. Well what does that mean? It means that they will no allow people to sleep outside anymore. But how do they enforce this? The jails are always full. Police have to adopt a harm reduction approach. Not all laws are equally important. If a property owner wants someone removed, police remove them. But otherwise just let them stay if they are not causing some other problem. Rousting them just makes them go somewhere else. And then jail space they save for someone who is getting belligerent with police. Jail is used to back up the police. So with this new shelter system if someone refuses the shelter, Steinberg says that the penalties are not criminal, they are civil. Well what does that mean? It seems to mean the psychiatric system. They have figured out a way of having something which is like the criminal system, but does not have the same standards of proof and due process. So then Steinberg explains that they will have housing. But it is only available to people who can prove that they were a housed resident for 1 year. Well what about people who refuse to talk, or people who cannot prove that? Mental Health System? Run out of town? This is why they want it to be state wide. They are using this Mental Health System as a way to enforce things which are not otherwise enforceable. Now all of this sounds similar to the reactionary Michael Shellenberger So where is the break? Well Shellenberger talks much more in a tone of outrage against "progressives". But I think he wants to only give people housing when they are performing on the court ordered mental health plan. Which I think means cooperating with therapists, talking their meds, but no street drugs. He said shelter is free, or something like that, but housing is earned. The Democrats are talking about all of this in a way which sounds compassionate and caring, as they ready themselves to jab needles in arms. And in my opinion it makes no difference if any of this works out. It is just how the Democrats insulate themselves from the criticism of someone like Shellenberger and the Republicans. It is how the Democrats have been able to get something very rare, near monopoly power at the state level. Maybe some states have been one party. Not so CA. The Presidents we have sent to Washington were Nixon and Reagan. The whole thing is very reckless as of course the mental health system is a mind destroying death trap. And this is all just targeting the scapegoats of the family and making public examples of them. And the whole thing is silly really. If they feel that they have the funds and the public mandate to build all of this shelter space, just build it. Most of the unhoused will take it, so long as it is not some kind of a funnel into mental health. It will be a long time before we can worry about those who refuse it. The shelter will cost lots of money. But if we can build it, especially real housing, it will help. I still say we need instead a strong public housing offering and Universal Basic Income, so this is for everyone. But our society is not there yet, we are still trying to advance the idea of Mental Health. SJG The Pretty Reckless - Take Me Down (Official Music Video) [view link]
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  Advocates Oppose California CARE Court Legislation Aug 7, 2022 [view link] Shonique Williams (she/her) is the Founder of the Ezekiel’s Project and No CARE Court Coalition, Asantewaa Boykin (she/her) R.N MICN, is an Emergency RN and the co-founder of APTP (Anti Police – Terror Project), Andreya Garcia-Ponce De Leon (she/her) is the Executive Director of San Bernardino Free Them All and Project Amiga and they are all Unapologetically Black Unicorns. They discuss Senate Bill 1338 – CARE Court and all of its shortcomings. They talk about how they all got involved in the No CARE Court Coalition, their experiences speaking during the hearings and reactions from some assembly members and holding our elected officials accountable. California. Why We Oppose CARE Court—and You Should Too! [view link] SJG
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  California Governor Gavin Newsom is pushing through his Care Courts legislation, special courts to subject the unhoused to involuntary psychiatric procedures and internment, and to subject them to conservatorship if they do not cooperate with a "treatment plan". This focus on mental health and coercion is being led by Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg, who himself designated his 13yo daughter as scapegoat and put her into the psychiatric system and into an out of state institution. So today at the age of 27, she believes that she has a mental illness, bipolar. And the system needs bipolar because with the way schizophrenia has been conceived, it is hard to imagine it in an adolescent. And the system also needs autism, because with the way bipolar and schizophrenia are conceived, it is hard to imagine them in a pre-adolescent child. And Care Courts is also being championed by State Senator and co-author Susan Eggman, whose family also designated someone as scapegoat and put her into the psychiatric system until she died while unhoused. Steinberg has centered his entire political career on mental health and he has set up a mental health institute, headed by Thomas Insel. Insel always explains that he is Gavin Newsom's mental health advisor. Insel seems to want everyone to be regulated by medication. And he has medications which produce the euphoria of sex, and he promotes LSD in the name of mental health. He also has a startup company, Mindstrong, which will have people using their cell phones to, while medicated, check in with their therapist for auditing. As the Republican Party will move people to come to the polls by talking about crime, immigration, and abortion, the Democratic Party has learned to talk about mental health to achieve the same ends. And no one seems to know how to answer this yet, because the pitch is that they are helping the helpless. So at state level now, California has come very close to being a one party state. As advanced industrial and information technology has decimated the demand for labor, we have designated a large slice of the population as suitable for internment and drugging, turning poverty and homelessness into mental illness. And we have designated another slice as the caretakers, the mental health and social workers. And as these vote, the Democratic Party and its mental health doctrine goes unchallenged. SJG
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  California Democratic Party Our party has found its own way to create fear and bring people out to the polls. Just as the Republicans talk about crime, immigration, and abortion, the California Democrats are now running entirely on mental health. A large slice of our population is to be sacrificed for drugging, internment, and regular check ins with their therapist via cell phone. And another large population slice is to be designated as carers for those deemed unable to help themselves and unworthy of living autonomus lives. This not only soaks up a lot of surplus labor, these mental health and social workers will show up to vote. Governor Gavin Newsom is pushing through his Care Courts legislation, Umberg SB-1338, special courts to subject the unhoused to involuntary psychiatric procedures and internment, and to subject them to conservatorship if they do not cooperate with a "treatment plan". This focus on mental health and coercion has been spearheaded by Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg, who himself designated his 13yo daughter as scapegoat and put her into the psychiatric system and into an out of state institution. Now as soon as the juvenile had contact with the mental health system this should have triggered mandatory reporting and a Child Protective Services intestigation. The doctors in public practice do adhere to mandatory reporting. But with the doctors in private practice it is a different story. A judge would have authority over the parents. A mental health therapist will have no authority over the parents. He or she has been hired by the parents. So they take the postion that they know what is best and that if there is any problem they will mediate with the parents. So if you hire these kinds of doctors, they know their position and they know who they are working for. They are indeed a Fix My Kid Service even though this is in complete defiance of Mandatory Reporting. Now we don't know that happened with Darrell Steinberg's daughter, but we do know that today at the age of 27, the girl believes that she has a mental illness, bipolar. And the system needs bipolar to have objective reality, and her father Darrell Steinberg needs it, because with the way schizophrenia has been conceived, it is hard to imagine it in an adolescent. And the system also needs autism, because with the way bipolar and schizophrenia are conceived, it is hard to imagine them in a pre-adolescent child. What really seems to drive these cases are identity conflicts between parent and child, and it is also just because some parents need to find in their child the locus of Original Sin. And in some cases the parents will have a religious community backing them up. Care Courts is also being championed by State Senator and co-author Susan Eggman, whose family also designated someone as scapegoat, Susan's Aunt Barbara. Eggman says that Barbara's mental health issues "drove her onto the street." Well this just about has to be over family conflict issues. And Eggman says that she "refused all of their efforts when they tried to help." Well this again is over family identity conflict. The idea of "mental health issues" is just how they wrote her off and then seemingly leaving her to die either unhoused or institutionalized. Darrel Steinberg has centered his entire political career on mental health, and he has set up a mental health institute, headed by Thomas Insel. Insel always explains that he is Gavin Newsom's mental health advisor. Insel seems to want everyone to be regulated by chemical mood alterants. And he has medications which produce the euphoria of sex, and he promotes LSD, all in the name of mental health. He also has a startup company, Mindstrong, which will have people using their cell phones to, while medicated, check in with their therapist for auditing. And no one seems to know how to answer this neoliberal Democrat message, because the pitch is that they are helping the helpless. And so at the state level now, California has come very close to being a one party state, even though our California Democratic Party is siding with medical child abusers. As advanced industrial and information technology has decimated the demand for labor, we have designated a large slice of the population as suitable for internment and drugging, turning poverty and homelessness into mental illness. And we have designated another slice as the caretakers, mental health and social workers. And as these vote, the Democratic Party and its pro-medical child abuse mental health doctrine goes unchallenged. SJG
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  This is getting pretty crazy: Protesters trigger chaos during LA City Council vote on banning homeless encampments near schools video [view link] SJG
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  Letters to the Editor: The ACLU is right to oppose Newsom’s CARE Courts (Aug 12) [view link] California Needs to Think Outside the Box on Homelessness (Nation) [view link] SJG
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  The idea that someone is "mentally ill" always seems to have started with in the family. And these are the ones who clamor for official recognition that their child is the locus or original sin. [view link] We need laws that will protect people from being made into the family scapegoat. We need to be able to protect people like the daughter of Darrell Steinberg. And we need to be able to protect people like the aunt of Susan Eggman. Eggman has spent her entire adult life getting the family scapegoats needled with psychiatric neurotoxins and with suicide drugs. Eggman [view link] Eggman shows us how to convince people [view link] And we need laws to protect people like Matthew Warren, youngest child of Rick and Kay, who shot himself in the head at the age of 27. "The best doctors money could buy, the best medications, the best therapists, and the best people praying..." ^ I submit to you that very few people could have survived that. [view link] [view link] SJG In My Dreams -- School of Rock [view link]
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  This SacBee article from yesterday, it makes no sense. It is a hard story of a man who lost his eyes at the age of 24 and now lives on the street and has “schizophrenia”. [view link] But consider, he should have been hospitalized right away and then in assisted living facilities from then on. But he sets fire to trailers, so they took his housing voucher away. Well if he does that he should be in prison. And if he is out, he shouldn’t need a housing voucher, he should just be put in a convalescent home. But all of this is happening, he is a product of the mental health system, Psychotherapists and their talk therapy, and Psychiatrists and their drugs. So this was written by someone who clearly supports Care Courts and the real estate industry, Newsom, Steinberg, Eggman, Insel. They are acting like Care Courts means you don’t need prisons. It was like Gavin during the heights of the COVID hysteria. I said that Gavin with his Grandstanding and Gaslighting, he is trying to make California into a 40 million bed mental hospital. Now with Care Courts they are indeed saying that our entire society is to be both prison and mental hospital. It is with the drugs, and with the cell phone checkins with Thomas Insel’s therapist call center. Gavin Newsom etal are trying to make all of California into a Prison - Mental Hospital. And they believe they can do it with medications and having people using their cell phones to check in with the Auditors in Thomas Insel's call center. SJG In My Dreams [view link]
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  Critique of Mental Health and Thomas Insel looks like we get one free LA Times view per day: [view link] SJG In My Dreams [view link]
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  We don't need any new laws to subject the unhoused to involuntary psychiatric procedures, or to subject them to Thomas Insel's auditing center. To do something about homelessness we need to intercede before someone becomes unhoused. The way we do this is by making laws to protect people like the 13yo daughter of Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg, and like the aunt of CA State Senator Susan Eggman. The mental health system encourages child abuse. It lets a parent win a dispute just by dialing 911 and making one into the family scapegoat. Darrell Steinberg tracked his daughter into the mental health system at the age of 13. Today at age 27 she still believes that she has a bad brain. And Steinberg has built his entire political career on mental health. And he needs this to have objective reality because this fiction is what exonerates him. Susan Eggman's family tracked Susan's aunt Barbara into the mental health system. Eggman says that mental health issues “drove her onto the street.” And Eggman laments that she “refused all of their efforts when they tried to help,” trying to legitimate forced treatment. Eggman has built her entire adult life out of targeting family scapegoats, via mental health, working in a mental hospital, and via euthanasia. Steinberg and Eggman need the mental health system because it affirms for them that their family member was indeed the locus of original sin. And so this is the point where we need to have already intervened, to give someone an alternate basis for their identity, and to open up other life options. We need the law to be able to come in and to make it clear that the family is wrong. SJG
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  ACLU California Action WE NEED HOUSING, NOT COURTS Oppose SB 1338 (Care Courts) Person being handcuffed and strapped hospital bed " We have a housing crisis in the state. But instead of creating permanent and supportive housing, Governor Newsom and state legislators are exploiting this emergency to strip away the rights of anyone suspected of having a serious mental health condition. " [view link] Ocean Beach Rag (today) [view link] " But while these have been dominating headlines, we’re lost sight of the single most dangerous one yet: the plan touted by state and local Democrats to create a separate legal system through what are perversely called “CARE Courts.” An acronym for Community Assistance, Recovery, and Empowerment, Senate Bill 1338 proposes a raft of policy and legislative changes allegedly to assist people living with mental health and substance abuse challenges. Championed by Governor Newsom and currently set for approval by the Legislature this week, if passed it will almost certainly be signed into law. It involves an initial $65M for set-up costs and $49M each year after for enforcement, but $0 to address the already chronic shortage of therapists or suitable housing. (As it is, 57% of Californians are unable to access the behavioral health care they need, and California comes in 34th in state rankings on access to care.) And it allows anyone from family members to first responders — including private “homeless outreach workers” — to petition for a court order. Disability Rights California correctly points out several flaws with SB 1338. It does not mandate housing be provided, and would perpetuate institutional racism and widen health disparities. And the language of the statute is sloppy and imprecise, using terms not defined in the bill itself or in California law. The American Civil Liberties Union has also joined in condemning SB 1338, as it will once again allow people to be medicated and institutionalized against their will, endangering the civil liberties of Californians living with disabilities, caught up in the criminal legal system, and/or experiencing houselessness. In short, creating a different legal track for certain people by definition creates second-class citizens with diminished rights and protections relative to others. One might think that these criticisms are based in the Law of Unintended Consequences. But taken together, it’s difficult if not impossible to see them as absolutely intentional. Our problems with mental and physical disabilities and homelessness are the direct result of our electeds refusing to redress the lack of accessible health care and housing for everyone. And now they want to wash their hands of it by being allowed to replace our society of common weal with a polity of the competent, in which autonomy is tied to financial capacity — and devil take the hindmost. " SJG
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  Shonique Williams, organizing to oppose Care Courts ^ above video is most compelling. [view link] Dignity and Power Now [view link] SJG
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  Our economic system is broken. So many people unhoused that laws become unenforceable. So I think driven by Michael Shellenberger, Gavin Newsom and Darrell Steinberg try to set up psychiatric internment. Remember Steinberg put his 13yo daughter into the psychiatric system. Steinberg says of the shelters he wants to set up, “Legal obligation to use it, and government has legal obligation to provide treatment.” So he wants psychiatric interment. So of course people are obliged to resist, and resist by all available means. If they had Universal Basic Income and a Strong Public Housing Offering, people would partake. It would not be just the unhoused. But Newsom and Steinberg are not progressives, they are neo-liberals. And this later is a repackaging of fascism. SJG
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  Senate Bill 679, authored by Senator Sydney Kamlager, and supported by nearly 100 organizations including local cities, community organizations, and housing experts, would create a first-ever Independent countywide housing and homelessness prevention agency that unites 88 cities to create affordable housing, prevent homelessness and support thousands of working families burdened by the recent spike in rent costs This SB697 is hated by the real estate industry, but it just passed the assembly. It might be the most important thing passed this session. Republicans voted against it. Should have to go back to the Senate now because of amendments, but it should pass. [view link] Gavin's Care Courts is undecided, but hopefully it will go down in flames. Economic issues only become about mental health because of neo-liberalism. Darrell Steinberg wants the unhoused to be in psychiatric internment because this is what he had done to his 13yo daughter. SJG In My Dreams [view link]
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  California CARE Court | UFW March to the Capitol | “What is California” Podcast has audio, 16min 17 seconds for the part about CARE COURT [view link] This must be opposed in everyway! SJG
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  A defenseless woman was stabbed just for being homeless in California. Is this who we are? [view link] w/ 10 min audio Rosie Lander was living in a tent in Red Bluff when she was stabbed 41 times on August 9. Chuslum Buckskin, 18, was arrested by police and is the primary suspect in the attack. A 14-year-old was also arrested as an accomplice, according to police in Red Bluff Rosie Lander [view link] Newsom, Steinberg, Eggman, and Insel with their Care Courts and trying to tar the homeless with "Mental Illness" are making this worse. SJG
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  <div class="separator" style="clear: both;"> <img src= "[view link]" style="display: block; padding: 1em 0; text-align: center; max-width: 100%; height: auto;"> <p style="color:white; font-size: 19px; text-align: justify;" >Protesters demonstrate in front of San Francisco Superior Court in opposition to the proposed CARE Court program.</p></div> Care Courts could actually be the thing which prompts the poor and unhoused to smarten up and to stop listening to the Born Agains and the Mental Health crowed. Have to wait and see. SJG Emily Williams [view link] Archie Bell and The Drells [view link]
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  ^ If we want to intercede and do something about the personal factors which increase the likelihood of homelessness, we have to do this before anyone finds themselves in the situation Darrell Steinberg's 13yo daughter found herself in, or before anyone finds themselves in the situation Susan Eggman's Aunt Barbara found herself in. We have to interdict the family scapegoating before it truncates one's life options. SJG
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  Gavin's Care Courts SB_1338 could pass today. In my opinion though it has been largely neutralized, the the danger of advancing a psychiatric police state is still real. The bill has had at least 5 large rewrites. And the last two were coming from Newsom's admiration. It does not have to start until Oct 2023 in some counties and by Dec 2024 in all counties. And they have serious limits on who it can apply to. Their analysis 8/26 [view link] The ideas are still dangerous though and so there needs to be organized resistance to this, and to the entire mental health system. People need to be taught to refuse any and all cooperation. This does nothing to end homelessness. For that we simply need a Strong No Needs Test Public Housing Offering and Universal Basic Income. But that would gut the bottom end of the real estate industry and their harvesting. So seemingly, with Neo-Liberals at the helm, we are still ready to sacrifice a large number of people to drugging and therapist auditing, just to protect the real estate industry. And if we want to intercede in the personal factors which place someone at risk of homelessness, we need to intervein before they find themselves in the situation that Darrell Steinberg's 13yo daughter found herself in, or that Susan Eggman's Aunt Barbara found herself in, being made into the family scapegoats. [view link] We need to eradicate the entire mental health system. SJG
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  It is a whole bunch of civil rights groups that have kept the pressure on Newsom and The Assembly deserve the credit for blunting this. But the ideas are still on the table, and an Evil Overlord wanna be in Thomas Insel still walk the earth. So there needs to be organized resistance to all facets of the Mental Health System. SJG
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  Newsom’s court-ordered treatment plan for homeless Californians passes final test [view link] Assembly Passes Newsom’s ‘CARE Court’ Proposal to Let Judges Determine Mental Health Plans [view link] We already have a Mental Health Police State, thanks to people like Darrell Steinberg. This just ups the ante. The Assembly Amendments did however blunt it, and likely delay it some. Resistance plans have already been laid. SJG Free - All Right Now [view link]
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  This will ensure that our most vulnerable get the help they need when they're incapable of consent. A part of it is they'll get ss disability housing treatment everything.
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  If they want to give people housing and cash benefits they can do this. The reason it is about "mental health" is because it is a neo-liberal plan to remove from view people who are seen as an eye sore. There is no "mental health help" that anyone needs. Darrel Steinberg has a lot to do with why now in CA we have a vast number of psych med addicts, maybe 10 to 20% of the population, and seemingly are never able to spend enough money on mental health and are using mental health to explain more and more things, and now have passed legislation to do internment. Prop 63, 2004 [view link] [view link] Recent News About Care Courts: [view link] " The ACLU California Action, Human Rights Watch, Coalition on Homelessness, Mental Health Association of San Francisco, Disability Rights California and other advocacy groups have expressed opposition to the plan. Chief among criticisms is that the plan would force individuals into treatment if they do not cooperate, and that they could then be placed under conservatorship. " [view link] “It ignores the very stark reality that we're living in this moment,” said James Burch, deputy director of the Anti Police-Terror Project, which is part of a statewide coalition opposing CARE Court. “We are tens of thousands of beds short in the Bay Area of the permanent housing that we need. … And we are woefully short on voluntary treatment programs.” "Gov. Gavin Newsom introduced the proposal in March as a way to help people who oscillate among emergency psychiatric treatment, incarceration and homelessness get the support they need." Newsom was just capitulating to criticism from the Right in Michael Shellenberger. " Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge Stephen Manley said he sees people caught in that cycle every day. Manley oversees a mental health care diversion court for people awaiting trial for suspected crimes. "I think this is a major step towards building a system that is going to be effective, as opposed to the present system," Manley said, "where these individuals simply cycle through our jails over to the emergency room of a hospital, back to the streets, back to the jail, back to the hospital. And it doesn't stop." " Most of the drive for this does seem to come from the family members: " Assemblymember Suzette Martinez Valladares (R-Santa Clarita) said CARE Court was coming 10 years too late. She shared the story of her cousin, a Vietnam veteran, who was homeless and living in an encampment for five years before he died. "I wish that my family had the tools that this bill is going to bring forward so that he might still be alive and with us," she said, adding, "But there's more work to be done. This bill is great, but we need resources for the programs, for the services, for the workforce that doesn't currently exist." " Because of advanced industrial and information technology, we have no need for such a large work force. But now we need all these mental health workers. And these people will show up to vote. CARE Courts—the Controversial Plan to Compel People Into Drug, Mental Health Treatment—Set to Become Law [view link] " The “passage of the CARE Act means hope for thousands of Californians suffering from severe forms of mental illness who too often languish on our streets without the treatment they desperately need and deserve,” Newsom said in a statement. " [view link] SJG School of Rock, music that is more edgy [view link]
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  Anti-Police Terror Project - Opposed to Care Courts [view link] SJG School of Rock KC House Band do "Heartbreaker" by Led Zeppelin . Robbie Matthews/vocals 12yrs old. w/ Livin' Lovin' Maid [view link]
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  So having to re-calibrate in the wake of Care Courts passing, moving to an active resistance posture. Looking for who might be taking the lead. We are now living in a Psychiatric Police State. Assembly Media Archive: [view link] Seem to have passed Care Courts after dinner 8/30. I want to hear what the people said. 12 1/3 hours. [view link] [view link] So coming back after recess 7:00pm Calling SB-1338 Care Courts, Mike A. Gipson presenting: [view link] Richard Bloom was the author of the Assembly version, mostly the same, but they decided at the last minute to proceed with the Senate version. I suspect that they knew that there would be more opposition in the Assembly. SJG Rachel [view link] Sukki [view link] School of Rock [view link]
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  This Sharon Quirk-Silva is in charge of this Assembly Committee on the Homeless and Mental Health for Orange County. She always goes on and on about "seeing people who need help" everywhere. "Many of our families have been touched by homelessness." She talks about her own brother, "Billy who struggled with not only Mental Health, but with Severe Alcoholism." The idea that someone is "Mentally Ill" usually starts within the family. This Bennett, Ventura, is not a name I had heard of in connection with this before. Marie Waldron, high ranking Republican, says she has spent years working in the Mental Health field. This Laurie Davies (R) says that she and her husband are conservators of her sister-in-law. So she explains that there had been help, that if something happened they could get her into a hospital and "back into medication". "When they are in this stage they are not able to make commonsense decisions" Like they decide that they should not keep taking mood altering chemicals that numb and stupefy them. Cooper says he spent 13 years in law enforcement and he saw people brought into the jail and get on medication and "get normal". And he says "The number one issue in our state is homelessness. The public wants it solved." Heath Flora (R) Valladerez (R) 10 years ago her cousin, a Vietnam veteran had been living in a tent in a homeless camp for over 5 years, and, "He lost that battle." No one has spoken against this. But Al Muratsuchi (D) says he will be voting for it but with mixed feelings. "Fundamentally philosophical issue, when does compassion end and our desire just to get people off of the street begin. Real issue is housing." "I don't think this is a great bill." (the previous speakers were celebrating how great it is) ( this is more smarts than I had expected from Muratsuchi ) "I think we are taking the easy way out" Patterson(R - Fresno) talking about breaking the "heart of God" and how he supports this bill.) No one else spoke, Gipson closed. Muratsuchi spoke a critical message, but he will be voting for it. "We can build all the housing that we possibly can. But unless we deal with people's mental illness, that is for naught." "I wanna celebrate because I believe that we are moving in the right way for the first time, dealing with people who are having mental illnesses." Ayes 62, Noes 2 SJG Rachel [view link] Sukki [view link] School of Rock [view link]
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  We have only one party at the state level. The reason that the Democrats are going along with the Psychiatric Police State, is that they are being attacked from the Right, and because in some places people have been elected who really are Republicans, but they call themselves Democrats. And then Democrats are being attacked from the Right, being called Liberals or Progressives. But many of them are nothing of the sort, they are Neo-Liberals. So rather than set up a Strong No Needs Test Public Housing and Universal Basic Income, they want to label and intern people and hire people into Mental Health and Social Work. These people will vote too. SJG Rachel [view link] Sukki [view link] School of Rock [view link] NASA to make second attempt to launch Artemis on Saturday [view link]
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  California is now a Psychiatric Police State. And lest you think this only applies to the unhoused, they are saying that they want to apply this "help" to people before mental illness makes them unhoused. So it applies to everyone. We must resist and we must use all available means. We need the most militant kind of anti-psychiatry movement, and working at all levels. The majority of these CA legislators still believe that the psychiatric system is “helping” people, rather than seeing that these drugs are poisons and that they are the reason we have more and more psychiatric basket cases. And the idea that someone has "mental illness" is usually something which has started in the family. At the state level CA is now just one party. And so we have a lot of elected people who really are Republicans, but who call themselves Democrats. And then Gavin and his Democrats do face public pressure over the increases in homelessness. But a lot of them are not liberals or progressives, like Gavin himself. They are neo-liberals. So Gavin is trying to turn CA into a 40 million bed mental hospital. And maybe it was close to this already because of Darrell Steinberg's 2004 Prop 63. This has to be why we have an ever increasing percentage of the population dependent on mood altering psychiatric neurotoxins. And in most families, if they are not rich enough to hire private doctors, then they have been led to believe that one of their own has a "Brain Chemical Imbalance" and that they are forever dependent on psychiatric neurotoxins and likely are incapable of every leading a normal life. So Gavin's Care Courts now makes this coercive. It starts with the unhoused, but it is pitched at everyone. So we must resist, we mush find ways to resist, ways large and small. We must never yield one morsel of cooperation to the psychiatric system. We need strategies to deal with these enforcers at first contact, and hopefully to be able to run them off. And we need strategies and attorneys to defend us in court. And then we need methods to show our complete rejection of Care Courts and the entire mental health system and its conceptual underpinnings on a daily basis. SJG School of Rock, more edgy [view link]
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  Care Courts Recent News: California lawmakers approved CARE Court. What comes next? w/audio [view link] [view link] US: California Should Enact Housing, Treatment Options That Work Deceptively Named ’CARE Court’ Legislation Will Undermine Effective Solutions [view link] “The so-called ‘CARE Court’ is not about care at all – it plays on prejudices against people who are unhoused and living with mental health conditions to create a coercive system of court-ordered treatment when we know that involuntary treatment is ineffective and inhumane,” said Olivia Ensign, senior US program advocate at Human Rights Watch. “Instead of pouring millions of dollars into coercive measures that are set up to fail, lawmakers should invest in proven treatment and support programs.” Governor Gavin Newsom proposed the CARE Court in March 2022. In the face of consistent opposition from a long list of disability, racial justice, peer-led, and other civil and human rights groups, including Human Rights Watch, the California legislature passed the bill in August. The bill now heads to Newsom for his signature. The involuntary referral to the court can result in an order from a judge, called a CARE plan. That plan may include an order exerting power over fundamental areas of a person’s life, including medication, housing, and other services and support. Failure to obey this CARE plan can result in additional intervention, including possible conservatorship, which can strip a person’s ability to make decisions over their own lives and deny them the right to autonomy over their own health. The new law will divert resources away from existing behavioral health and housing initiatives, potentially including successful community-based voluntary treatment, housing programs, and other social supports. The CARE Act does not create any new behavioral health or housing resources. Instead, it redirects money already in the budget to programs required by a CARE plan, placing additional pressure on resources that are already in short supply. “The politicians who have promoted the CARE Court have repeatedly and falsely claimed it provides ‘voluntary’ treatment, when, in fact, the entire system is based on coercion,” Ensign said. “A person’s ability to access critical services and housing should not hinge on court control.” SJG School of Rock AllStar Students perform "Stop! In the Name of Love" by The Supremes [view link] School of Rock AllStar Students perform "Where Is My Mind?" by Pixies [view link]
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  Looks like we get one free LA Times read per day. [view link] ” Before she met Dr. Shayan Rab, Diana Silveria was the daughter of Elvis Presley, hanging out with Lynyrd Skynyrd on a skid row sidewalk. Three weeks later, Silveria, 51, was taking medication and slowly coming to reality in a room at the Russ, a single-room-occupancy hotel. Under Rab’s care she was beginning to piece together shards of memories — from her childhood in California to her mother’s phone number. She had agreed to Rab’s plan to move, once she’d fully stabilized, into long-term residential treatment away from the mayhem of the streets she’d been living on. If the plan holds, Silveria’s picture may go up beside some 30 others on a gallery of success stories pinned to a wall in the county outreach office on 6th Street in the heart of skid row. A psychiatrist with the Los Angeles County Department of Mental Health, Rab leads a small but growing initiative in street-based treatment that is beginning to make inroads into the population of homeless people who wander L.A.’s streets with untreated mental illness. ” It goes on to talk about getting people into conservatorship and about Outpatient Conservatorship. It creates the impression that these medications are good for people. I don’t know what sorts of drugs these are. They are probably the kinds they give people when they get 5150ed. Maybe someone knows about these sorts of drugs. They should not be able to do that to people. To talk to a person on the street enough to really understand their life, would take years and years, and that is only if they want to tell you. And usually I think the client would have to grow a great deal to be able to talk about things. Anyone who is on the street has had their life shattered at some point, and generally they know it very unwise to talk about personal things, and that would include talking with a County Street Psychiatrist. It is abusive to try and probe into someone’s affairs when they are not seeking that. I have some familiarity with this neighborhood of Los Angeles. All the neighborhoods are demarcated by freeways. This one is marked of by an approximately square arrangement of freeways. I think this is what they call the old downtown or south central. The place with the old hostess dancing clubs, and some AMPs too. I know that google street view has shown block after block of tents on sidewalks. This is what happens when you have enough people who are unhoused. Impractical to try and run them out. Most people would not refuse actual residences. But if you start offering this, it will not just be the unhoused who want this. It will be most anyone who is not rich. They want to do something about the homeless, but only if it can be done in such a way that it severely stigmatizes them. A strong no needs test Public Housing Offering with Universal Basic Income would solve all such problems and create a check on private real estate inflation. But of course it is the real estate industry itself which is the most opposed to this. So we have instead gone with the Mental Health approach. The County is only doing this, and the Times is only writing about this, because of Care Courts passing. Care Courts does not alter the legal status of this, but they want to bolster support for it. Or they want to influence the Nov election. Putting people on drugs does not alter the situation. If you want to alter things you need to make economic changes, like Public Housing and Universal Basic Income, and you have to intercede in situations like when Darrell Steinberg’s daughter got put into the mental health system, before it gets that far. SJG School of Rock AllStars perform "Tutti Frutti" by Little Richard [view link] Pat Boone [view link] Ozzy Osbourne - Mr Crowley - School of Rock 2017 All Stars Team 1 [view link] White Room [view link] music more edgy [view link]
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  With the way schizophrenia has been conceived, it is hard to imagine it in adolescents. So they have given us bipolar. And most of the diagnoses are for bipolar 2. And this seems to be a reworking of what they used to call dementia praecox. And then since it is hard to imagine bipolar in younger children, they have also given us autism. So because they want to establish that there is an objective basis for all of these afflictions, the whole thing has to hang together. And so now when the CA a legislature has passed Newsom's Care Courts, it was supposed to be pitched at the unhoused, but as it is worded it applies to anyone who could become unhoused because of severe mental illness. And so it applies to everyone. And severe mental illness is supposed to be those on the Schizophrenia Spectrum, but the main diagnosis is bipolar and this is the core of this spectrum. And then Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg has been a central pillar of CA's mental health phenomenon. He says that everyone is on some "Mental Health Spectrum", and would do well with Mental Health Wellbeing checks. And he has set up an institute and put Thomas Insel in charge of it. Insel has a company, MindStrong which will give everyone these Wellbeing Checks via cell phone texting. Darrell Steinberg had put his daughter into an out of state psychiatric hospital at the age of 13 years. And now in her 20's, she still believes that she has "mental illness". Anyone who lives kind of on the edge and without a lot of social and emotional support could be labeled as having bipolar 2. Particularly because this is all being done by government licensed medical practitioners, it all clearly falls within Nuremburg precedent. No one's position or licensing puts them above International Law. No one can say that they are Just Following Orders or that they are Just Following the Law. And it is right that the Statue of Limitations has been lifted, and that the penalties have been extreme. SJG School of Rock more edgy [view link] In My Dreams [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  Where do people get this idea that mood altering chemicals are good for you? How far back does it go, and what did it start with. To me it seems no different from the vast numbers of people who think ethanol and nicotine are good ways to make it through the day. And then as their numbers seem to be dropping, there are many more now who depend on marijuana, or even on crystal meth. And as CA Governor Gavin Newsom has signed his Care Courts Psychiatric Police State Law, his people talk about using drugs to “stabilize” people. And most of those behind this really seem to believe that member of their own family would have benefited from this: Sickening: 12 min video [view link] So how far back does it go, and with what did it start? SJG School of Rock KC House Band do "Heartbreaker" by Led Zeppelin . Robbie Matthews/vocals 12yrs old. w/ Livin' Lovin' Maid [view link] Roundabout [view link] Heard It Through The Grapevine [view link] King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man - School of Rock All Stars Team 4 - Metro [view link] King Crimson - Starless (School of Rock Bedford) [view link] In My Dreams [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  People need to know much more about Thomas Szasz, especially at this time when the Mental Health Movement if exploding. CA Governor Gavin Newsom has gotten his Care Courts Psychiatric Police State law passed and support for this in the legislature was near unanimous. Most people believe that everyone is on some Mental Health Spectrum and that they should be disclosing their affairs to psychotherapist and that we need more psychotherapists. Positive Disintegration, by Kazimierz Dabrowski, 1964, Intro by Jason Aronson. p. XVII ” Like Thomas Szasz, author of Myths of Mental Illness, Dabrowski rejects the medical model of “illness” for psychiatric disorder. Szasz’s definition of psychiatric disorder as “disturbances in patterns of living” is congenial to Dabrowski’s point of view, but Dabrowski regards slight psychiatric disorders as necessary for personality development and would not consider them wrong patterns. ” Szasz in Hungary and Dabrowski in Poland. We here in CA and the US are using the concept of Mental Illness in exactly the same way that had been the norm in the Communist East Block. People must wise up and start fighting back! SJG School of Rock, more edgy [view link]
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  We Do Not Need CARE Court Aug 11, extensive list of signatories, 20 pages [view link] <img src="[view link]"> SJG
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  Care Courts Recent News: Why housing advocates oppose a new California law designed to help the homeless A new California law ostensibly aimed at helping unhoused people shreds their autonomy, advocates say [view link] " Already, unhoused people with severe mental health disorders can be involuntarily held in psychiatric care, but only for three days. They can leave only if they promise to take medications and make certain appointments. Using a court order, the CARE Act extends that period for up to a year, which can be extended to two years. " " Family members, service providers and first responders — including paramedics or police officers — are among those legally able to file a petition with CARE court. If facing criminal charges, the individual could avoid punishment by enrolling in a mental health treatment plan. A judge could then order someone into treatment, including housing and medications. " "This law violates a person's right to self-determination and violates people's right to choose how they want to and need to address their problems," Sam Tsemberis told Salon. Newsom's office is describing the program as a "paradigm shift" — but some advocates say that shift is in the wrong direction. "This law violates a person's right to self-determination and violates people's right to choose how they want to and need to address their problems," Sam Tsemberis told Salon in an email. Tsemberis is the founder and CEO of Pathways Housing First Institute, a non-profit founded in 1992 that originated the Housing First model for addressing housing access. He characterized the law as politically motivated, citing Newsom's alleged bid for U.S. president, and designed to appeal to voters "tired of seeing homelessness." "Based on my clinical experience and research comparing voluntary and involuntary court-mandated treatment programs, it is very clear that better outcomes are achieved when treatment is voluntary, trauma-informed, and compassionate," Tsemberis said, adding, "This law will not have any impact on reducing homelessness because it does not provide funding for housing." But the fact that police can intervene in these situations has alarmed some advocates. "Law enforcement and outreach workers would have a new tool to threaten unhoused people with referral to the court to pressure them to move from a given area," Human Rights Watch said in April. "Newsom's 'CARE' Courts bill will not stop homelessness and it will not stop our mental health crisis," James Burch, deputy director of the Anti Police-Terror Project, said in a statement, citing statistics that people with untreated mental health disabilities are 16 times more likely to be killed by law enforcement. The San Francisco Chronicle recently reported that nearly 1,000 people have been killed by California police in six years. California lawmakers approved CARE Court. What comes next? Manuela Tobias & Jocelyn Wiener, CalMatters 9 hrs ago w/ audio [view link] California Politics: Newsom signs Care Court legislation, agrees to gubernatorial debate [view link] video [view link] SJG 2016 School of Rock AllStars Team 2 at Crofoot Ballroom in Pontiac, MI [view link]
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  Care Courts Recent Related News: San Jose Homeless Sweep Creates New Dangers The sprawling land once home to hundreds of San Jose homeless residents sits mostly empty this week. [view link] ^Care Courts will solve nothing, except to create a new class of drug addicts, to make people see why they have to avoid the shelters, as they are internment camps, and to give the Democrats more of these Mental Health and Social Workers to vote for them. Homelessness in California’s Cities [view link] Rising homelessness is tearing California cities apart Democrats are under pressure to fix the state's most pervasive problem — or at least move it out of sight. [view link] ^ a good article! "San Diego has penalized people refusing shelter" Mayor Gloria’s push for homeless ‘progressive enforcement’ leads to eightfold spike in arrests [view link] 'It's Just Horrendous': Thousands Of San Jose Seniors Face Homelessness [view link] S.F. had bold plan to cut chronic homelessness in half in 5 years. The numbers only got worse [view link] SJG Should be appreciated inch by inch, on the outside, and then millimeter by millimeter on the inside. [view link] [view link] Kansas City School of Rock Supermassive Black Hole Muse ( I like this version much better than the original artist ) [view link] School of Rock Communications Breakdown [view link]
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  Is Orange County Gutting Local Homeless Resources Needed by CARE Court? VOICE OF OC [view link] ” A jobseeker looking to clean up. A woman whose husband tried to kill her. Those are the types of people who found solace, pre-pandemic, at a South Main Street homeless service center in some cases every day of the week in Santa Ana. And later wrote about it in sworn court declarations. The center’s one of several homeless service providers throughout Orange County – like Micah’s Way, the Harm Reduction Institute and Mary’s Kitchen – getting pushed out by local city officials over public nuisance complaints. They represent one side of the homelessness debate that views direct assistance and basic needs as crucial to helping people recover their lives – and with full autonomy. That seemed to jive less and less with local officials over the years, seeing these sites draw visible homeless presence, in favor of what some consider a new rallying point: Court-ordered mental health treatment. It’s called CARE Court, and it seeks to put people with critical mental health issues into court-ordered treatment plans for up to two years before they deteriorate or commit crimes. ” California Crane Strikes Amtrak Train While Clearing Out Homeless Encampment [view link] Newsom Signs Bill to Allow Homeless to Keep Emotional Support Dogs in Shelters [view link] Senate Bill 774, authored by Senator Bob Hertzberg (D-Van Nuys) (When Care Courts SB-1338 first went through the State Senate, Hertzberg was the only one who refused to vote for it.) Lawsuit demands San Francisco stop homeless camp sweeps [view link] The Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights of the San Francisco Bay Area and others filed the lawsuit in federal court on behalf of the Coalition on Homelessness and seven individuals who are homeless or at risk of becoming homeless. Defendants include the city, several city departments and Mayor London Breed. SJG
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  'California to make mentally ill homeless accept treatment' Gavin needs to up your treatment because obviously it isn't working. That combined with your sewn up anus should eventually make you something alien to your thought process, a model citizen.
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  Now get out from under your light post and get back to your facility, it's the only sane answer for you.
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  Care Courts, Recent News: Opinion Behind Newsom’s move on California’s chronic problem with the mentally ill [view link] "The 1967 legislation had been years in the making, a bipartisan undertaking that proponents hailed as the Magna Carta for people in state hospitals. It provided patients with basic rights, accelerated the emptying of those antiquated institutions and became a template for states across the country. " Mayor Darrell Steinberg responds in wake of deadly 24 hours in Sacramento w/ video [view link] SJG