^^^ Icey, the Baltic States, Belarus, Ukraine, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria all have histories with the SS and the Holocaust.
But so does the US Republican Party, Nixon importing Holocaust Perpetrators under the Republican Ethnic Outreach Organization in order to "offset the Jewish vote in the cities".
But this has little to do with the situation today.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is Jewish.
Biden won't have a war. No one in Europe cares enough about Ukraine to risk a confrontation with a nuclear state. Biden will do sanctions and diplomacy, etc. putting pressure on Russia, and will send them arms, but won't declare war.
^ Russia covets warm water ports because all their Arctic ports don't do them much good. Frozen over or at least not connecting to much. Hence their boner for Crimea.
Still, Putin sounds committed to restoring the USSR. I'm sure he knew this wouldn't be without consequences. Russians seem to pride themselves in the amount of shit they can endure. Look at WW2.
^ "Well, with President Kennedy it was a "new language". It was a quarantine." ...I stand corrected, didn't know that the island my family came from was being quarantined! Looks like JFK used "quarantine" to tone down the implication of war that would come with a "blockade".
Sjg Senility js a mental illness. You don't believe in mental illness.
And still none of you will be joining the Ukrainians jn their fight against Russia. How will batching on a strip club forum help them? Coz all of you care so deeply about them
^ Not me for sure. Even if I was young enough to do it, and they wanted to do it, and they wanted me to do it, I wouldn't do it. Why get involved in a 1000 year old European drama that will never affect the USA, and will never be resolved?
Russia wants buffer states between them and the EU/NATO, Ukraine doesn't want to be a buffer state. EU/NATO has expanded right up to Russia's doorstep while the Ukraine thumbs it's nose at Russia saying they want to join both. Putin is popular in Russia, Russians vote for him, and he feeds the nationalist beast with retro imperialistic theater. All this distracts from the corrupt kleptocratic shitholes both countries have made themselves into over centuries.
This is Class A European bullshit that the USA should stay far away from. Who gives a fuck if Donetsk is traditionally Russian? I'll tell you who: Europeans. They're a bunch of pissy white people all related to each other who can't get along on a tennis court sized region (now "country") because of whatever social/ethnic/historical/mythical difference inscrutable to us. English HATE gingers. Francophonic Belgians hate the Flemish, and the Catalonians hate the Castilians. Why? Who the fuck knows. I will guarantee you that way back at the start of this particular story there was some fucking white dude on a horse running around with a sword and flag doing whatever mayhem to some other fucking white dude on a horse running around with a sword and flag and now their great great great great etc. grandchildren hate each other.
Moreover, no one including the Russians wants a superpower vs superpower war. The cost of invading Ukraine? Bupkiss + Sanctions-lite. The cost of a nuclear confrontation? Unthinkable on both sides. It will stop with Ukraine, maybe Moldova or similar as well.
So, the Ukrainians and maybe another small state will get fucked, and will end up with a shitty government not unlike their current shitty government, but more pro-Russian. A bunch of soldiers will get killed. Low civilian casualties.
I just can't see getting involved. Though I do agree with Biden trying to slow things down by doing the sanctions etc. dance. Don't want Putin to think there is ZERO cost.
Also Icey: every strip club in Ukraine is ALSO a brothel! Interested to know what you think of that...
Biden sees all this as a way to get Europe to get natural gas from yhe US instead of Russia. And using Ukraine as a puppet state to potentially encroach on Russia which is what yhe maidan colored revolution was about.
I don't care about Ukrainian strip clubs. I like the history of Chabad and the Lubavich rebbe and all that . Plus feel disgusted by the rise of neonazism and the reforming of nazi collaborators jn Ukraine.
I am outside the age for military service. If called upon I can still fight. I think Russia needs to get bitch slapped right now. They are overstepping.
“You know what somebody should do is build a really big pipe from somewhere they extract crude oil to where they have refineries. Like a line of pipes. A pipeline, if you will.”
Here’s something we should do right fucking now. Build about 100 modern nuclear power station using expedited approvals. In 5-10 years, we’d be completely energy independent with carbon free emissions.
Then, form a trade agreement with English speaking countries including the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and India. Throw in democracies like Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Ireland. Make sure that group is completely self reliant and cut off all trade with China and Russia.
Its in the media coz biden wants the European union to buy American natural gas instead of Russian and thinks enough sanctions against Russia can do it
As I know it was Robert McNamara who came up with the concept of quarantine. At the Pentagon they had been brain storming situations.
And then they talked with American Leftists and tried to find out what the final trip wire was for the Soviet Union. What line must never be crossed. And it was the boarding and inspection of their ships, especially the submarines.
And then in the 13 Days film, they forced a sub to surface and told the crew to standby for boarding and inspection. But others said that the sub would only be inspected over the crew's dead bodies, and that they would be executed if they allowed it as soon as they got back to Russia. So I suppose that if there was no other way, they were expected to scuttle it.
Ukraine has a population of 40 million. So especially if they are totally outside supplied, they could field an army much larger than what Russia now has.
From memory, during the World Wars, and including reservists, Germany fielded 8 million men in uniform, from a population of maybe 33 million.
Ukraine is the "Bread Basket of the World". But if they are offline for some years, the US can supply them. And Poland is just as much of a bread basket. And Germany can produce more food than it needs too.
Shoulder launched missiles can take out Russian tanks, airplanes, and helicopters.
They look to have reactive armor on their tanks, but that just means it will take two Javelin Missiles, or even most anything else fired first.
Putin cannot withstand the financial lockout and body bags coming home.
I learned what a fossil he was when the Pussy Riot girls were protesting and said that they "hope he will become a feminist."
And this is absolutely America's essential business. The exiting world order would be destroyed, and the UN with it, if Putin were to go unchecked.
"Here’s something we should do right fucking now. Build about 100 modern nuclear power station using expedited approvals. In 5-10 years, we’d be completely energy independent with carbon free emissions."
Great idea, and one would think that's a liberal Democrat's dream come true. So why don't they move in that direction? Because that would solve a major problem, and without problems they have no reason to exist. So they prefer to keep pissing away money on dumb ideas like wind and solar.
It's similar to how they claim to be champions of civil rights and race equality, but everything they do has the effect of keeping minorities dependent on government programs. Minorities who are successful on their own merits are a big problem for Democrats.
By the way, there are plenty of Republicans who operate that same way. The Dems are worse, but Repubs also have swamp creatures who don't believe in shrinking government down to what it was originally designed to do.
^ Maybe you can disappear with all your race obsessed nonsense. Do your math homework or you'll end up like Icee, losing your girl tia small time drug dealer.
I don't get it. Biden can see the smart thing is to pretend Taiwan isn't independent. But he decides to poke the Russian bear with a stick by saying that NATO's door is open to the Ukraine, they just can't come through it right now. Not surprising the Russians feel stepped into. There not half as strong as the USSR was, but somehow NATO needs to keep getting bigger. Seems like letting Ukraine be Finland South would have been the simple solution.
All ukraine had to do was honor the Minsk Agreement. Even now they can surrender and negotiate. But yhe right wing US puppet regime is willing to sacrifice the nation to stay in power
Ukraine crisis: Chaos descends on Ukrainian capital, 100 Russian paratroops go down in their transport plane ( Good reports from UK Defense )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZkfs0um…
Biden and most of the public do not at this time want US troops sent to the Ukraine. But there are still likely to be people from this an other countries who want to go and fight.
And many of us are involved in Defense related matters.
@Icee, Naah, I'll give up a little ass for a good cause.
Have your stripper sister turn another trick. Give that $20 to support some refugees, somewhere. Yemeni, fine, if it makes you feel like you fought capitalism.
Chris Hedges On Ukraine, Russia & NATO, coming in 26 hours. Hedges will be fully supportive of any allegations against Ukraine or the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I6ZkPi6…
There is a certain time of day that this board just becomes Icey and the people that enjoy arguing with Icey. I'd rather look at the Photos section. Thanks Joker44.
Communist website hosting a traitor, very progressive. Clark was a democratic candidate for President, so of course he is a Nazi. Icey is made Germany has no gay FKK clubs.
Why you're interacting at the level you do is mystifying to me Tet. Wish you'd stop. Just do what I do: put caca on ignore and pay that one day you get to see the piece of shit burn to death slopwly.
Nato opposes pleas for No Fly Zone
Russia passes new laws to silence dissent, bans foreign news outlets | Ukraine invasion latest news (German DW 7hrs ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMCQ2QMM…
Talking about Claus von Stauffenberg
"Col. Claus von Stauffenberg, left, looks on as Adolf Hitler welcomes Gen. Karl Bodenschatz on July 7, 1944. Von Stauffenberg attempted to kill Hitler on July 20 and was executed the next day."
Republicans, Democrats slam Lindsey Graham after he calls for Putin's assassination (Russians have brought crematoriums with them)
https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-democ…
This could be another way, besides quarantine on the Black Sea and No Fly Zone, for outside military forces to enter this.
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Maybe you are not old enough, I don't know. But most of us know that appeasement does not work.
So of course I would be ready to fight in it.
SJG
Maybe fight alongside Ukraines Azov Batallion?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Bat…
But so does the US Republican Party, Nixon importing Holocaust Perpetrators under the Republican Ethnic Outreach Organization in order to "offset the Jewish vote in the cities".
But this has little to do with the situation today.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is Jewish.
SJG
Go join them
Cacaplop, this thread needs you!
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Still, Putin sounds committed to restoring the USSR. I'm sure he knew this wouldn't be without consequences. Russians seem to pride themselves in the amount of shit they can endure. Look at WW2.
Restrict the Bosporus. High currents, very narrow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosporus
This is right at Istanbul
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukr…
One would not normally bring large military ships into the Black Sea.
Even the submarine would be vulnerable to air attack when going through that.
Greece and Turkey are NATO members. Make them host the land planes needed to enforce the quarantine. Nothing goes in or out.
It is a way of opposing them without necessarily just out and out shooting at them.
Very Good!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146309/
In a place like Russian you never know who is really in charge or how stable their position is.
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SJG
https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2837298713?…
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And still none of you will be joining the Ukrainians jn their fight against Russia. How will batching on a strip club forum help them? Coz all of you care so deeply about them
Russia wants buffer states between them and the EU/NATO, Ukraine doesn't want to be a buffer state. EU/NATO has expanded right up to Russia's doorstep while the Ukraine thumbs it's nose at Russia saying they want to join both. Putin is popular in Russia, Russians vote for him, and he feeds the nationalist beast with retro imperialistic theater. All this distracts from the corrupt kleptocratic shitholes both countries have made themselves into over centuries.
This is Class A European bullshit that the USA should stay far away from. Who gives a fuck if Donetsk is traditionally Russian? I'll tell you who: Europeans. They're a bunch of pissy white people all related to each other who can't get along on a tennis court sized region (now "country") because of whatever social/ethnic/historical/mythical difference inscrutable to us. English HATE gingers. Francophonic Belgians hate the Flemish, and the Catalonians hate the Castilians. Why? Who the fuck knows. I will guarantee you that way back at the start of this particular story there was some fucking white dude on a horse running around with a sword and flag doing whatever mayhem to some other fucking white dude on a horse running around with a sword and flag and now their great great great great etc. grandchildren hate each other.
Moreover, no one including the Russians wants a superpower vs superpower war. The cost of invading Ukraine? Bupkiss + Sanctions-lite. The cost of a nuclear confrontation? Unthinkable on both sides. It will stop with Ukraine, maybe Moldova or similar as well.
So, the Ukrainians and maybe another small state will get fucked, and will end up with a shitty government not unlike their current shitty government, but more pro-Russian. A bunch of soldiers will get killed. Low civilian casualties.
I just can't see getting involved. Though I do agree with Biden trying to slow things down by doing the sanctions etc. dance. Don't want Putin to think there is ZERO cost.
Also Icey: every strip club in Ukraine is ALSO a brothel! Interested to know what you think of that...
That got a little old man ranty. Sorry!
I don't care about Ukrainian strip clubs. I like the history of Chabad and the Lubavich rebbe and all that . Plus feel disgusted by the rise of neonazism and the reforming of nazi collaborators jn Ukraine.
“You know what somebody should do is build a really big pipe from somewhere they extract crude oil to where they have refineries. Like a line of pipes. A pipeline, if you will.”
And then they talked with American Leftists and tried to find out what the final trip wire was for the Soviet Union. What line must never be crossed. And it was the boarding and inspection of their ships, especially the submarines.
William Mandel
https://www.amazon.com/Saying-No-Power-A…
And then in the 13 Days film, they forced a sub to surface and told the crew to standby for boarding and inspection. But others said that the sub would only be inspected over the crew's dead bodies, and that they would be executed if they allowed it as soon as they got back to Russia. So I suppose that if there was no other way, they were expected to scuttle it.
Ukraine has a population of 40 million. So especially if they are totally outside supplied, they could field an army much larger than what Russia now has.
From memory, during the World Wars, and including reservists, Germany fielded 8 million men in uniform, from a population of maybe 33 million.
Ukraine is the "Bread Basket of the World". But if they are offline for some years, the US can supply them. And Poland is just as much of a bread basket. And Germany can produce more food than it needs too.
Shoulder launched missiles can take out Russian tanks, airplanes, and helicopters.
They look to have reactive armor on their tanks, but that just means it will take two Javelin Missiles, or even most anything else fired first.
Putin cannot withstand the financial lockout and body bags coming home.
I learned what a fossil he was when the Pussy Riot girls were protesting and said that they "hope he will become a feminist."
And this is absolutely America's essential business. The exiting world order would be destroyed, and the UN with it, if Putin were to go unchecked.
SJG
SJG
"Here’s something we should do right fucking now. Build about 100 modern nuclear power station using expedited approvals. In 5-10 years, we’d be completely energy independent with carbon free emissions."
Great idea, and one would think that's a liberal Democrat's dream come true. So why don't they move in that direction? Because that would solve a major problem, and without problems they have no reason to exist. So they prefer to keep pissing away money on dumb ideas like wind and solar.
It's similar to how they claim to be champions of civil rights and race equality, but everything they do has the effect of keeping minorities dependent on government programs. Minorities who are successful on their own merits are a big problem for Democrats.
By the way, there are plenty of Republicans who operate that same way. The Dems are worse, but Repubs also have swamp creatures who don't believe in shrinking government down to what it was originally designed to do.
What about keeping the US in check for all the wars it starts?
We need solar power, and we can have this.
SJG
Leonard Cohen The Partisan (Live in Spain, 1988, Basque Country)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPzN5_VG…
This amounts to the same sort of thing as Quarantines and Blockades.
Al Jazeera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5NbQj-6…
Excellent movie with excellent trailer:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146309/
In the Bosporus, Istanbul, Hagia Sophia in the background.
https://www.reuters.com/world/turkey-can…
Ukraine has asked for these ships to be stopped!
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Glass the Middle East.
Look at me! Look at me!
Go away, Cacaplop.
LOL. Go away, Cacaplop.
You've failed to shut this board down like SCL. You're a failure.
Go away, Cacaplop.
Peace For Our Time
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:…
Ukraine crisis: Chaos descends on Ukrainian capital, 100 Russian paratroops go down in their transport plane ( Good reports from UK Defense )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZkfs0um…
Russian war criminals in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmnjcvok…
Ukraine crisis: 'Putin will meet hell' says former president Petro Poroshenko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SOVTHjH…
BREAKING: Germany to help arm Ukraine, 1000 anti-tank missiles and 500 Stinger missiles, UK will help deliver this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwYhSSeh…
Latvia to close airspace to Russian airliners. France and Netherlands also sending weapons.
PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES ARE GOING TO WANT TO GET INTO THIS!
The Good Fight III of XII - AbrahamLincoln Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J17FtHTx…
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Go away, Cacaplop.
Think you need a few new aliases to argue with here, like this. https://m.stripclublist.com/usa/RI/club_…
Go away, Cacaplop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQeJHL6d…
SJG
He should be joining the national guard and getting ready for the war he supports
Getting an employer to fly you out business class and put you up in primo accommodations is permanently beyond your capabilities.
Don't hate, appreciate.
I'll give to a charity that supports Ukrainian defenses in your honor.
And many of us are involved in Defense related matters.
SJG
Doyle Bramhall II - Magnoliafest - Live Oak, Fl 10- 16- 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdkjRG-9…
Masonic Round Table
Episode 159 - The Rite of Memphis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bUyorIu…
Have your stripper sister turn another trick. Give that $20 to support some refugees, somewhere. Yemeni, fine, if it makes you feel like you fought capitalism.
Every little bit helps
Not backing Republican Spain was one of the biggest mistakes that the US, France, and England ever made.
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I6ZkPi6…
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JUST MASONS - Episode 15 - Bro. Paul Rana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUwjuu-a…
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The Spanish Civil War is irrelevant to any of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCsycTW8…
SJG
sjg
https://www.democracynow.org/2004/1/26/e…
SJG
And you post so much irresponsible stuff from the covid and mental health bs to now supporting war criminals and right wing dictators.
:) :) :)
https://www.semitix.com/en/maison-close-…
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Turkey halts Russian incursion into Ukraine: Turkey blocks Russian naval passage to the Black Sea (7hrs ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPrmzlTt…
Battle for Ukraine l On Location
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VpdVoMe…
Can Turkey close the Turkish Straits against Russia? (32 min ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLW0lMmt…
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d8T_nFj…
Russian convoy closing in on Kyiv after missile strikes cause devastation in Kharkiv, Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGRBxfh5…
There's no way Vladimir Putin wins, even if he defeats Ukrainian military: Sen. Rubio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXvf62eN…
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Hint, keep talking.
Slava Ukraini!
No one is responsible for this destruction and carnage except Vladimir Putin.
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9KZGs1M…
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VOX Putin's war on Ukraine, explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVu8Qbxa…
Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAG…
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO2j5lQG…
Ukraine Invasion: Spokesperson clashes with Sky correspondent...again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9jkfNg…
Watch live: A special programme on the Ukraine invasion, 1hr ago, 1hr long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crWAMd1e…
VOX Putin's war on Ukraine, explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVu8Qbxa…
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk_Yl4NO…
Watch live: A special programme on the Ukraine invasion 2hours ago, 1 hour long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crWAMd1e…
Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer (2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAG…
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'Ukraine President Zelenskyy Has Fled To Poland Amid War': Russian Media | Russia-Ukraine War News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQN2o6-r…
‘My future is taken away from me’: Russians flee to escape consequences of Moscow’s war
https://www.yahoo.com/news/future-taken-…
Nato opposes pleas for No Fly Zone
Russia passes new laws to silence dissent, bans foreign news outlets | Ukraine invasion latest news (German DW 7hrs ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMCQ2QMM…
NATO’s Stoltenberg tells FRANCE 24 Russia's warning to Finland, Sweden 'unacceptable' (France 24 English 7hrs ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj9cPudf…
Ukrainians strike massive Russian convoy, Pentagon says (CNN 1 hr ago) (Ukrainians blew up a bridge to stop the Russian convoy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsBc_Vbt…
A Bayraktar TB2 Strikes Again, Hundred Russian Tanks Were Destroyed Near Ukraine Capital Kyiv! (2 hours ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwLOPyLO…
Russia passes new laws to silence dissent, bans foreign news outlets | Ukraine invasion latest news (German DW 7hrs ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMCQ2QMM…
Russia’s Unprecedented Shelling of Ukrainian Nuclear Plant Raises Fears of Another Chernobyl
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/4/ru…
Talking about Claus von Stauffenberg
"Col. Claus von Stauffenberg, left, looks on as Adolf Hitler welcomes Gen. Karl Bodenschatz on July 7, 1944. Von Stauffenberg attempted to kill Hitler on July 20 and was executed the next day."
Republicans, Democrats slam Lindsey Graham after he calls for Putin's assassination (Russians have brought crematoriums with them)
https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-democ…
This could be another way, besides quarantine on the Black Sea and No Fly Zone, for outside military forces to enter this.
Russian Environmentalist Speaks Out on Putin’s Attack on Antiwar Protesters & Independent Media
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/4/ru…
Ukrainian American Journalist: Putin’s Unjust War Is Emboldening Ukraine’s Far-Right Movement
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/4/fa…
The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine Is Like Something From A Movie: Peter Zalmayev (MSNBC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwV1HGGN…
On board a Nato surveillance plane monitoring Russian activity in Ukraine - BBC News (Boeing 707)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt5j2mrX…
On the Ground in Ukraine: A VICE News Tonight Special Report 4 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk5DgCwd…
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Question to the Ladies, Surfaces for Walking in Stripper Shoes?
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6963…
PSD - Stripper Shoes
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7879…
Lenny Kravitz - Again (his stuff uses interesting chord progressions)
https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-democ…
Lenny Kravitz Full unseen UNEDITED Performance from the Kennedy Honors Tribute to Led Zeppelin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-oDk89y…
Lenny Kravitz - american woman - Live At iTunes Festival 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm3r4jPr…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9KZGs1M…
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Americans travel to Ukraine to help Ukrainians defend against Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHY3gx8I…
How Russia’s Ukraine invasion might come to an end l ABC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOgwao6-…
War in Ukraine: how far will Putin go? | The Economist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s13sOvS…
'Churchill With A Social Media Account': Zelenskyy's Morale-Boosting Effect On Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R4Yi8s7…
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xVerbh-…
Putin uses Stalinist repression: Russian soldiers who want to escape are shot – captive occupant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ6opD_u…
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CucweV3x…
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw6SpAw4…
FULL SPEECH: Ukraine's President Zelenskyy addresses US Congress, 'We need you right now' | ABC7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjDw4FW…
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