OT: Online Dating

Pretty much the same experience as Heaving. I gave up on online dating.

The problem with online dating sites like Match for men is that it is quite common for some guys on these sites to send out dozens or sometimes even hundreds of emails. That means at the receiving end you have women looking at their in boxes and seeing lots of emails. This leads to female ego inflation, not a good thing. I've had quite ordinary looking women I work with brag about getting 25 emails a day on these sites.

Real life tends to not be like that. For example, if a guy went to a bar and went around trying to approach every female there the women he approached would not be flattered by the attention since they could see he was being unselective. Women only like it when a guy pays attention only to them. Because of this, most guys in bars and other public places are selective in who they approach in order to increase their chances of success. Women on dating sites don't see men paying attention to other women than them so they get a false idea about their desirability.

Eventually many women do figure out that most of the guys emailing them don't have a high level of interest in them, become disillusioned, and drop off the site. The women who stay tend to be attention whores who like getting a lot of emails. Good luck trying to form a relationship with them.

@Tetradon

One night stands don’t really appeal to me.

So mostly looking for dates.

Like someone you can introduce to your friends as your girlfriend/boyfriend.

You both get to travel & do couple things together without her expecting any form of payment.

I don't think my experience with Seeking Arrangements is going to help you.

i just ride into town and lasso a cutie. Since she is the only one I used a lasso on, she knows my attention is only going to her.

I have had good luck but I'm tall, white, educated, decent looking, not fat, full head of hair and decent text game. So I make it through the filters.

Acknowledge your demographic. Everyone is chasing the 21 year old 8s and 9s. 30-35 year old women, especially divorcees are great for online dating.

I'm not a fan of dating apps. I think women go on there for attention more than anything. And the ones actually looking to meet aren't all that.

My best online experiences with women came on yelp. You learn a lot about girls from their reviews and it's easy to suggest trying a new restaurant or bar.

Instagram is good too.

Technology is a big part of our lives today especially post the smartphone - seems to me a lot of people are meeting via apps these days and getting into relationships that way

Tetradon how can you call guys simps when you pay for sex?

But a lit of girls have a heightened sense of entitlement. Because men cave in to them thinking money is the key to their heart. It isn't. I'm seeing a girl with a sugar daddy. Him paying her bills is just what she expects and takes for granted. But she gets excited and happy if I do little stuff like ordering her tacos when she's at work. And look at rich men like kanye....he had the biggest gold digger and money wasn't enough.

But meeting girls in person is better. The grocery store beach bar...strip club. Anywhere

Tetradon. It makes sense.

Hoes I know use shopping trips and trips etc as a codeowrd for p4p on dating sites. Or when they say they like generous men.

The worst part of dating to me is how women have a stable of men to meet different needs. And how society is teaching them nothing is ever enough or good enough.

It's a mind fuck. I've had a girlfriend who was upset and wouldn't have sex when I got her a Burberry bag instead of a Dior one for her bday. Then I've dated hoes who were some of the most materialistic hoes you'd ever meet. But would skip work to drive around all night smoke weed and talk make love. Had a girl I gave the world to on a silver platter leave me for a broke bum. Had a girl who was a gold digger with other men but was submissive and wanted to choose up real bad. A girl with a sugar daddy old enough to be her grandpa paying all of her bills and buying her whatever she wants and with me she appreciates every little thing and told me I spent too much on her Christmas present.

One thing it comes down to is its not about logic. It's about how you make them feel and then the feelings they associate with you. When they can't get that emotional fix elsewhere they keep coming back.

Tetradon. Thats interesting. I like learning people's views on things like this.

My thing with p4p is my ego gets in the way. Even with lap dances they're fun to get but they hardly ever turn me on sexually coz I know its just something I paid for. I get offered p4p all the time in clubs but never take it. When I started clubbing the thought of it was exciting and kind of a thrill. But I could barely get hard and cum knowing I was paying for it. I get turned on by women wanting me. That's why picking up strippers is so fun. Its an ego trip having what others pay for.

I don't think a woman or person has to be smart to hold a good conversation. I like conversations and quality time that connects people. Creates bonds.

I donno if good girls exist. I've been with church girls who were really freaky and dysfunctional and not even jn a good way. And I think most strippers show love by wanting to choose up. The first stripper I dated eventually started getting me to wear jewelry and called me daddy lol

Women stay with abusive men because they don't love themselves. It's like punishment that reflects how they feel inside. Loving a woman like that is one of the hardest things. Not giving up on someone who gave up on themselves will kill you.

But most women seem to crave being submissive and some mistake an abusive man for a dominant man.

∆ lol. Spoken like a nine year old.

If all her pictures are skyview of her holding up her camera and pointing down, she will be larger than she appears.

Tetradon. My family is very catholic too. And your reasoning for p4p makes a lot of sense. I think a lot of what I did was to rebel and partly survival in the environment I loved in. My intro to p4p was girls in junior high who fucked for money or shopping trips. They went for older guys and their hustle got them a certain level of respect. My first time I almost paid a hooker was when I was 16. I was heart broken coz my crush was pregnant. So I went to the neighborhood hoe. She was in her late 20s. She refused telling me if she fucks me it'll just be sex with no feelings. That I can jerk off. That I should be with a girl my age who really wants to do it. That really stuck with me.

You really had to be a little thuggish to survive there.. And sports were a huge thing for me. That and being an athlete in high school really helped with girls. I didn't have to try. I literally had my pick and even now. I've never been rejected by anyone I really wanted. The downside is it fucks with your ego and becomes a game almost. That's why I love picking up strippers. It's the thrill of the conquest.

And my intro to strippers was when I was 17. A girl I was dating started dancing illegally and wanted me there for emotional support. It turned to me helping her with her hustle and ended with me telling her everything to do and her paying me. After high school a lot of girls started dancing and that was my social circle. Her friends wanted my advice too. I was making good money lol

I have a close friend who went to college on an athletic scholarship and getting laid was really easy for him.

I agree about it being fun to shut girls out. I've done that with church girls legal assistants nurses. A few rich college girls.

I just fell into dating strippers because I knew so many and was used to them. At first it made a huge difference to know these girls throughout high school before they started stripping.

The worst women in my view are instathots. They're starting to repulse me. Most are so lost in their fake ig lives that they're like plastic dolls and caricatures more than actual people. Every single thing is about portraying a fake image. Picture being on a date with a girl who tries not to talk or move her mouth coz she wants to look perfect with her caked on makeup. Her body feeling less real and less soft than a sex doll. It's an ego boost fucking them but they're just too vapid.

My favorite girls to date are young latina strippers. I don't have to try with them. It's that easy. People exaggerate stripper drama. The big problem is their age and having fast money. The influence from hardened hoes.

Tetradon. The main problem I have with online dating is the quality of women. I'm not into single moms looking for a dad for their kids. Women with mental illness. Women lying about their age. Ugly women. Those are the types I've had respond the most. Last time I tried it a morbidly obese girl scolded me for not replying to her.

The reality of influencer culture is a lot worse than people imagine. Everything about it is fake and they get so enraptured in it they lose all sense of self. They're empty shells akin to hardened hookers.

A lot of strippers are much less wild than their club personas. Sometimes it feels depressing that guys get to pay them to look sexy and made up and they're around you in sweats no make up...talking about how they had diarrhea

My aunt and uncle met via online dating in LA and they're now a multimillionaire power couple with two kids. It can work.

Heaving. Its not so much about who you match uts about who gets back and actually wants to meet up

Tetradon a lot of people make profiles and never get back to them. I know girls who would get so many messages they would just not bother going through them. I know a girl who got 35k hits on tinder in 2 days. I tried a pay site once a few years ago. I don't remember yhe name but it only let you talk to matches. My only match was a 57 year old librarian in Montreal. I tried plenty of fish before. They were weird. I met 3 girls...a broke stoner who just wanted someone to get high with and fuck. At least she was good looking. A chubby girl who with really low self esteem who was into being dominated. A bat shit crazy girl who wanted to be hate fucked for her sins. One older woman said she'd fuck if Iet her husband suck my dick. Things like that

I have a friend my age, good looking guy, can talk serious game to women who pulls a lot of dates off on Tinder to this day. His age range is 35-45 and I’m guessing there aren’t a ton of decent looking guys out there in that age range.

I’ve played with Tinder over the years while traveling looking for one night stands and some cities are flush with attractive women on there where others they are a needle in a haystack. Still it’s exciting finding someone on there, I’m thinking “how is this woman single, she’s flawless.” Then some light stalking you find her Facebook profile and you’re like, “hmmm she used her 4 best photos ever on her Tinder profile and in reality she’s just an average looking girl.” Still there are true stunners out there, but work has to be put in.

" It takes a lot of trust for me to go to someone's place or bring her to mine."

I've done it and I still have both my kidneys. Usually I've talked to someone for weeks before we have met up, plus I always have a hotel room at my disposal. Yeah I'd never bring someone on a first date to my krib even if I was single, but girls do it all the time. Women over 35 usually DGAF and know what they want.

Bringing someone home or going to their place isn't that big of a deal to me. I've done it the night we met.

I think the best connections are unexpected. With dating sites or apps there's an agenda and a motive.

Plenty of fish is disgusting. I've had fat bitches straight up ask me to come fuck them. I only did it once lulz

The fat one I fucked was .....fat. but still had kind of a shape. You could tell she'd have a nice shape if she lost a lot of weight.

And she had a fucked up way of flirting "I'm used to black cocks hope you're not intimidated "

After fucking her I couldn't get rid of her so I just blocked her number and closed my account.

I didn't feel bad. She was an obnoxious bitch