If it's only used to catch people who are violent or threaten violence in the club, or (actually) stiffs a dancer (in a money not an extras way), seems like a good thing. Is anyone aware of cases where ID scanning has been used for more questionable purposes?
IIRC, there was an incident in the reviews for Lust in Martinsburg, WV where a club ad (LOL) was mailed to a guy’s house. The explanation was that the club used a 3d party promotions partner who made a mistake. I don’t think that’s a reasonable explanation but the reasonableness of the explanation doesn’t much matter if having something like that show up in your mail is a problem.
It's funny y'all I'm not immune, and we all get scammed sometimes, but if anyone lets them scan their ID, they are putting themselves at risk for a lot more than just getting caught by a SO, if these folks have your SS number they can empty your bank accounts, open CCs in your name and use them, and a whole lot more, take a serious stand don't allow ID scanning it's a real danger to all of us.
They scan your driver's license. Everything on your driver's license is public information. At best, they can only tell whether the driver's license is a valid license and not a fake license. On the other hand, if you're stopped by the police, they can run your plate number / driver's license and learn a whole lot about you such as outstanding warrants, delinquent child support payments, unpaid tickets, insurance information and vehicle inspection dates. At least that is what I was told by the cop who pulled me over for having a burned out stop light bulb.
^ I ran a business for over forty years. if you have an insurance company that insures your vehicles you can get all the same information that any police officer gets on a pull over, just say no to ID scanning
I appreciate why people won't like ID scanning. But I also know that it can make the club safer and it can lower the insurance costs. And though they might not be telling you, they might be claiming it as a membership club instead of a retail business. This opens up all kinds of doors, makes it like a Swinger's Club, no real rules.
I've heard the idea is that it's not about refusing entry. It's about identifying people if they commit a crime in the club, and the bouncers don't manage to hold the person.
A fav of mine told me a PL stole her money while she was turned around (she drank too much at work). She alerted the bouncers, and when they went to stop the guy, he pulled a gun, got away. Could have helped if his license had been scanned. But anyway, I don't think the club reported it to the cops. Clubs have be wary of being declared a "nuisance" and forced to close, if they report too many crime to the cops.
My hope is that the club will destroy the scans within a few days, and not give it to LE unless there's a known serious crime that happened at the club. Seems reasonable if that's how it's handled.
It's not handled that way. Those systems record and retain data for all sorts of purposes. Much of the intended purposes is benign enough, but the security on those systems is for shit, and the people who work in and run strip clubs tend to be shady fucks.
I'm with 25, I almost always walk out for ID scanning. There are some situations where I'll allow it, but for the most part bars or strip clubs wanting to scan an ID aren't getting my money.
I am no fan of ID scans, but I also don't find it a big enough deal to walk from a club. It's a stretch to think that some dipshit who works in a club can use that to obtain more sensitive information like a SS# or bank info.
Unscrupulous staff can dox you. It can happen with any business. Security cameras are enough of a safety measure. A private business has no right violating ones privacy like that.
Anyone who volunteers there private info to Facebook, Twitter, Parlour, insta, the local pizza shop for your 10th pizza free etc is already being tracked and compromised. Hell, even just having a cell phone or the internet without strong safeguards means you’re being tracked like crazy. Your phone number is now the data of choice for identity thieves and just try reining in how many people have your phone number.
With your address (or any of your past addresses) and your phone number any bad guy can get all the info on you he wants with a minimum amount of effort. You are kidding yourself if you think hiding you DL is going to save you from anything if you are targeted. Fat fingered Bruno at the local T&A shack is much more interested in skimming the cash drawer that sophisticated identity theft.
We need much stronger privacy laws like they have in Europe or to a lesser extent in CA but our federal government is more interested in bickering than governing so that won’t happen until it’s way too late.
100% deal breaker for me. Never letting my license be scanned and I don't care about ads at my house. They sell the information to third parties; it can be used to steal your ID; it has zero impact on liquor liability insurance and identifying anyone alleged to have committed a crime through a scanner before a lineup taints the identification given the shitty pictures most ppl have on their license, or the age of the pic.
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A fav of mine told me a PL stole her money while she was turned around (she drank too much at work). She alerted the bouncers, and when they went to stop the guy, he pulled a gun, got away. Could have helped if his license had been scanned. But anyway, I don't think the club reported it to the cops. Clubs have be wary of being declared a "nuisance" and forced to close, if they report too many crime to the cops.
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SJG
I'm with 25, I almost always walk out for ID scanning. There are some situations where I'll allow it, but for the most part bars or strip clubs wanting to scan an ID aren't getting my money.
SJG
With your address (or any of your past addresses) and your phone number any bad guy can get all the info on you he wants with a minimum amount of effort. You are kidding yourself if you think hiding you DL is going to save you from anything if you are targeted. Fat fingered Bruno at the local T&A shack is much more interested in skimming the cash drawer that sophisticated identity theft.
We need much stronger privacy laws like they have in Europe or to a lesser extent in CA but our federal government is more interested in bickering than governing so that won’t happen until it’s way too late.
SJG