OT: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial (NEW)

Tetradon
I'll act nicer if you'll act smarter.
If I'm going to get all the notifications, I'm going to put the facts and the law at the very top:

- In every shooting, he was not only in reasonable fear for his life, but showed remarkable restraint. E.g. not shooting jump-kick guy.
- He didn't take the rifle over state lines, he got it there.
- Open carry is legal in Wisconsin.
- He was not threatening anyone. Court decisions have ruled that showing a firearm does not itself constitute a threat.
- The judge threw out the "violating curfew" charge because there's insufficient evidence to believe a curfew was in place.
- Being in those circumstances does not take away his right to self-defense.
- "Vigilantism" is not a crime.
- You can debate whether or not he was wise to be there, but stupidity is not a crime.

Some people have said they don't want to live in a world that encourages vigilantism. Well, I don't want to live in a world where Antifa/BLM leftists get to cause mayhem because they're mouthing the right slogans. I don't want to live in a world where a "rioter's veto" determines the outcome of trials. I don't want to live in a world where rioting is so accepted that defending against it is viewed as aberrant. I don't want to live in a world where self-defense is so circumscribed as to be rendered irrelevant. And all that is what the left ultimately wants.

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RandomMember
3 years ago
*yawn*

What kind of mother drives her dorky high-school dropout across state lines with an assault rifle? Answer: a mother who's dumb as a brick and should never have conceived.
Tetradon
3 years ago
Where is "stupidity" in the Wisconsin penal code? Have they been formally charged? What are the statutory penalties?
CJKent_band
3 years ago
Whatever the court rules, a sobbing Kyle Rittenhouse has already won...

Rittenhouse pleaded not guilty, and white Americans see themselves in Rittenhouse...

If convicted of anything he will be a martyr for the right-wing and white supremacists...

If he is not convicted and goes free without any consequences it will set a precedent for other whites to do the same knowing there will be no prison or consequences to their killing others.

White privileged in America is undeniable.
ime
3 years ago
Haha Now lefties care about state lines but not a peep after the last year without one on the southern border.
Assault Rifle, tell us you know nothing about guns without telling us you know nothing about guns.
twentyfive
3 years ago
I'm really tired of this conversation, nothing I do or say will change anyone's mind about anything, instead of fighting about this, don't you guys think it might be more productive to head out to a strip club and gaze in amazement on the most wondrous of all of gods creations like a beautiful pair of Titties.
Tetradon
3 years ago
@25, then mute the thread. I added this because scrolling to the bottom of the last thread took forever.

I've felt some wondrous titties already this weekend.
twentyfive
3 years ago
^ Me too and I'm so blessed
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“I'm not saying that white people are better...

I'm saying that being white is clearly better.

Who could even argue?”

“Now, if you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole.”

~ Louis Székely
~ White Privileged stand up comedian
~ Born Sep 12, 1967 Washington, D.C., U.S.

“I Enjoy Being White”
twentyfive
3 years ago
CJKunt has never been in any strip club I've been in
Tetradon
3 years ago
@25, between CJ, SJG, and ICEE, we can get a jejune take on anything in the world.
twentyfive
3 years ago
😊😊
Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
"... Now lefties care about state lines but not a peep after the last year without one on the southern border ..."

Not to mention all the out-of-towners at all the Antifa and BLM riots
Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
Talking about state lines they make it sound like Rittenhouse came from 100s of miles away when in reality he seems to live just over the state-line and his father lives in Kenosha and from what I heard Rittenhouse himself worked in Kenosha so it's more like going across town than him coming from nowhere near Kenosha
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“Now, if you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole.

It is great. And I'm a white man.
How many advantages could one person have?

I'm a white man. You can't even hurt my feelings!

What can you really call a white man that really digs deep?

"Hey, cracker."

"Uh. Ruined my day. Boy shouldn't have called me a cracker.

Bringing me back to owning land and people, what a drag.”

I 'm saying that being white is undeniably, clearly better.

Who could even argue?”

~ Louis Székely
~ White Privileged 1%er
~ Born Sep 12, 1967 Washington, D.C., U.S.

“I Enjoy Being White”
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Yeah, when a white man shoots and kills white men, it's naturally about white supremacy.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
^
Exactly, it’s in the DNA of America Just like the Civil War...
CJKent_band
3 years ago
In the undeniable history of America;

"While some whites were lynched for murder or stealing cattle, there is another important reason many were lynched.

Many whites were lynched for helping blacks or being anti-lynching"

History repeats itself sometimes...
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Stupidity ie claiming ignorance of wrong doing is not a legal defense to the illegal outcomes of said stupidity

Anyways. Rittenhouse's testimony can easily hurt him. It was very disingenuous and just a rehashing of what his lawyers coached him to say. Juries pick up on shit like that n shit.

Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Rittenhouse's mom (whose stupidity was mentioned) isn't on trial.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“Racism is not dead in America, but the fact remains that many whites have died trying to defeat it.”
rickthelion
3 years ago
Why the fuck are you damn dirty apes so frickin obsessed with this Rittenhouse ape? Two frickin’ threads! Are any of you related to him?

Lemme ricksplain something to you morons. Hairless ape shoots and kills another hairless ape is a real dog bites man story. Yawn.

All I can say is that Wisconsin was running a shitty purge. THEY SHOULD NOT ALLOW GUNS DURING THE PURGE!!! Imagine how much more fun this would have been if the gave the contestants 24 hours to make their weapons.

If I had a contestant I would have advised him to arm himself with a tire iron, a knife, some Molotov cocktails, and a bottle of acid. Of course, you gotta tell him throw the Molotov cocktails first to get his opponents all bent out shape, then he splashes them in the face with acid and whales on them with the tire iron while they are blinded..That would be good television. This shit with the guns is boring.
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Because talking about Rittenhouse is a momentary distraction from the better uses of a .375 H&H Magnum.

https://www.africahunting.com/threads/wh…
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“Boys, this is a struggle for white supremacy,”

~ Ku Klux Klan leader of the Colfax massacre
~ Easter Sunday, April 13, 1873, in Colfax, Louisiana
skibum609
3 years ago
God bless Mr. Rittenhouse.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
^@skibum608

Is the perfect example that proves White Privilege Exists in every aspect imaginable in America today...
skibum609
3 years ago
The idea of white privilege is in and of itself beyond fucking stupid. just more socialist bullshit from the weak. Progressive with a gun got killed; news at eleven.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
@skibum609

White privilege, or white skin privilege, is the name given to the historical, undeniable societal privilege that benefits white people over non-white people in all societies in the world, it is most clearly seen in USA and England.

With roots in European colonialism and imperialism, and the Atlantic slave trade, white privilege has developed in circumstances that have broadly sought to protect white racial privileges, various national citizenships, and other rights or special benefits.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
^
UNDENIABLE
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Are you saying Rittenhouse should be convicted, independent of the merits of the case, to undo "white privilege"?
CJKent_band
3 years ago
@Tetradon

I don’t have to say anything, the undeniable facts speak for themselves.

The trial is just a farce, this is what happens when the system does what it was designed to do: protect the privileged, no matter how ridiculous it looks.

Kyle Rittenhous has been turned into a “folk hero” among the far-right in this country.

The Circuit Court Judge, Bruce Schroeder, has clearly and undeniable shown his bias in favor of the shouter who killed two people.

From ordering that the men killed by Rittenhouse can’t be referred to at trial as “victims” (but “looters” and “rioters” is okay!) to encouraging the courtroom to applaud for one of Rittenhouse’s witnesses — a veteran, on Veterans Day.

Whatever the court rules, a sobbing Kyle Rittenhouse has already won...
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ You don't say anything because you usually hide behind the remarks of others.

See the top of this thread for the facts of the case.

Rittenhouse isn't a hero to me, but he's an innocent man.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
@Tetradon

I don’t have to say anything, the undeniable facts speak for themselves.

The trial is just a farce, this is what happens when the system does what it was designed to do: protect the white privileged, no matter how ridiculous it looks.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
^
U N D E N I A B L E
Tetradon
3 years ago
These are the facts:

- In every shooting, he was not only in reasonable fear for his life, but showed remarkable restraint. E.g. not shooting jump-kick guy.
- He didn't take the rifle over state lines, he got it there.
- Open carry is legal in Wisconsin.
- He was not threatening anyone. Court decisions have ruled that showing a firearm does not itself constitute a threat.
- The judge threw out the "violating curfew" charge because there's insufficient evidence to believe a curfew was in place.
- Being in those circumstances does not take away his right to self-defense.
- "Vigilantism" is not a crime.
- You can debate whether or not he was wise to be there, but stupidity is not a crime.

The question is, will Kyle be sacrificed to placate the BLM mob? Or will we send the message that rioting is acceptable if one is mouthing off the right slogans?
Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
"White Privilege" is just an excuse to discriminate against whites and be racist against them - minorities are actually the ones that already have certain privileges that whites don't have - the "white privilege" card is just another way for certain people to keep milking the system just at a greater degree - in recent times it's been seen how many white people are trying to pass off as a minority in order to get ahead, vs the other way around - seems there's more "minority privilege" than the fabled "white privilege"
CJKent_band
3 years ago
^ @Papi_Chulo

White privilege, or white skin privilege, is the name given to the historical, undeniable societal privilege that benefits white people over non-white people in all societies in the world, it is most clearly seen in USA and England.

With roots in European colonialism and imperialism, and the Atlantic slave trade, white privilege has developed in circumstances that have broadly sought to protect white racial privileges, various national citizenships, and other rights or special benefits.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
^
U N D E N I A B L E
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“I'm not saying that white people are better...

I'm saying that being white is clearly better.

Who could even argue?”

“Now, if you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole.”

~ Louis Székely
~ White Privileged stand up comedian
~ Born Sep 12, 1967 Washington, D.C., U.S.

“I Enjoy Being White”
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Do you have any new content, or are you just going to keep cutting and pasting?
CJKent_band
3 years ago
@Tetradon

To answer your questions.

Q: will Kyle be sacrificed to placate the BLM mob?

A: Sobbing Kyle has already won, we will no be “sacrificed” for any reason, If convicted of anything he will be a martyr for the right-wing and white supremacists...

Q: will we send the message that rioting is acceptable if one is mouthing off the right slogans?

A: If he is not convicted and goes free without any consequences it will send the message, and set a precedent, for other white supremacists to do the same knowing there will be no prison or consequences to their killing of others.
Tetradon
3 years ago
Way not to answer my questions
CJKent_band
3 years ago
@Tetradon

Quotations, are used by me as a means of inspiration and to invoke philosophical thoughts from the reader.

Pragmatically speaking, quotations can also be used as language games (in the Wittgensteinian sense of the term) to manipulate social order and the structure of society

“Like everything metaphysical the harmony between thought and reality is to be found in the grammar of the language.”

~ Ludwig Wittgenstein
~ Austrian-British philosopher
~ Born: April 26, 1889, Vienna, Austria
~ Died: April 29, 1951, Cambridge, United Kingdom

Ludwig said it all...
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“Racism is not dead in America, but the fact remains that many whites have died trying to defeat it.”
CJKent_band
3 years ago
^
U N D E N I A B L E
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
I think Rittenhouses testimony will sway the jury against him. It was inauthentic. He said what he was coached to say by his attorneys. He contradicted evidence against him. Juries aren't usually partial to that. Plus his presence with am assault rifle at the protest provoked the situations he found himself in. Making it not self defense. Especially considering no one else shot or severely injured anyone except for him.

Tetradon
3 years ago
"Quotations, are used by me as a means of inspiration and to invoke philosophical thoughts from the reader."

They inspired the thought that you are a fatuous troll.
Tetradon
3 years ago
@ICEE, study up. Open carry is legal in Wisconsin.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statute…
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“I'm saying that being white is clearly better.

Who could even argue?”

“Now, if you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole.”

~ Louis Székely
~ White Privileged stand up comedian
~ Born Sep 12, 1967 Washington, D.C., U.S.

“I Enjoy Being White”
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Twerp
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
It's not about open carry laws its about putting himself in a situation where he knew it would provoke trouble. That nullifies a self defense claim.
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Lol. Must not offend the rioters' sensibilities.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
I watched the whole 3 hour cross examination. Rittenhouse didn't do well.
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Actual legal experts say otherwise.
https://abc7chicago.com/kyle-rittenhouse…
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Basically agrees with me. Thanks for posting

Laurie Levenson, a law professor at Loyola Marymount University, said she thought Rittenhouse came off as "quite coached."

"This is a big credibility call for the jury," she said. "The jury can either see (Rittenhouse) as a clueless kid or he's trying to evade answering questions. It can hurt him if the jury doesn't think he's sincere."
Tetradon
3 years ago
Dishonest. You ignore the two that say otherwise.

"From what I saw, he solidified his defense and showed himself to be very human," said Phil Turner, a Chicago-based defense attorney and former federal prosecutor. "His crying appeared very genuine. I think the jury got more of a sense of him as a young person. It's always a difficult decision to put someone on the stand . . . but from what I could see of the cross-examination, it was way off-target."

"Without a doubt, (Rittenhouse) helped himself (by testifying)," former Waukesha County District Attorney Paul Bucher said. "He is very well prepared. He's not argumentative, he's not evasive. He has been emotional, as expected. The prosecution is walking on eggshells for a mistrial."
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
So you admit the other two are just opinions right? And they're just focusing on the clueless kid angle. Not contradicting Levenson....nor me.

You want him to get off coz you share the same politics.
Tetradon
3 years ago
No, you asserted an opinion without evidence. You have no expertise. It means nothing to me.

I want him to get off because he acted in lawful self defense. If circumstances were reversed, and a progressive activist shot three neo-Nazis under the same duress, I'd vote to acquit as well.

Because it should be about the facts and the law, not "social justice" or pro-white/black/whatever. Nothing more.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Yet you keep replying to me and asking me to elaborate. My views seem to mean a lot to you lulz.

Fact is his testimony was coached and cringe worthy. He contradicted evidence was very evasive. Didn't cry a single tear. He didn't come across as genuine nor likeable. That goes far with juries.

And the facts are it wasn't self defense. Prosecution proved he put himself in an environment where he expected said situations. Ie he admitted to showing up to the protest with an assault rifle thinking he needed it to protect himself expecting the possibility of using lethal force. He admitted to using lethal force 4 times before retreating. These are the types of facts the jury will be asked to consider. Not the political fluff you keep ranting about.
skibum609
3 years ago
Wow a left wing bitch at a minor league left wing university said Rittenhouse came across as coached. White privilege means listening to your lawyers and not acting like a hip hoi gangsta wannabe...... I want Rittenhouse to get off because he was attacked by left wing thugs and killed them ... a mitzvah in the real world.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
And you down voted a comment where I stated what was in the article you posted 🤡🤡🤡
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Skibum thanks for agreeing that he just said what his lawyers told him to ie came across as coached and disingenuous to the jury
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ No, your views are more of a curiosity, like the elephant man at the circus.

"Ie he admitted to showing up to the protest with an assault rifle thinking he needed it to protect himself expecting the possibility of using lethal force."

Is anyone carrying a firearm in a dangerous area, from a cop to an armored car driver to a civilian "expecting the possibility of using lethal force"?

I gave you a link to Wisconsin self-defense law. Please read it.
rickthelion
3 years ago
“ No, your views are more of a curiosity, like the elephant man at the circus”

You’re not wrong on this Tetra Ape. But you’ve got some pretty fucked up views too. I mean really...you have such a hard on for this Ritten Ape that you started a thread about him and all he is known for is shooting somebody in the shittiest purge ever.

I mean really. One of the apes threw a fucking plastic bag. Not saying plastic bag ape didn’t deserve a little something for the disrespect, but it’s a simple fact that the purge organizers needed to give him better opponents. Maybe give the plastic bag guy a net with hooks sewn into it. You know, like the Romans.

Yo may not understand history, but the Romans threw kick ass purges. They had a whole colosseum for it and they sometimes gave the lions an opportunity to go all wildebeest on the contestants, which they called gladiators.

Now the Romans did not have firearms but there is no way they’d let the contestants have guns.

MAKE THE GAMES GREAT AGAIN! ROAR!!!
rickthelion
3 years ago
How ‘bout we make this thread INTERESTING!

Shut up ‘bout the stupid politics and answer one question: Ritten Ape vs three other Apes. What is the most interesting way to arm all of the apes for a good show? Remember, you want the odds to be even.

DISCUSS!!!
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ I've got a hard on to buy a .375 H&H Magnum rifle and shoot a giant pussy.

https://www.africahunting.com/threads/wh…
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Because this one isn't a real lion, just an annoying giant pussy
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Rittenhouse isn't a cop. Same rules don't apply to him. But you're right he's acting like one aka a vigilante
doctorevil
3 years ago
So, probably like most everyone else, I thought the one charge the prosecution had Rittenhouse dead to rights on was the minor in possession of a firearm charge. Turns out it’s not that simple. In fact, the judge probably ought to dismiss that charge, along with all of the others, which the prosecution has completely failed to prove.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-qu…
NinaBambina
3 years ago
Nice to see this board is still racist as ever, lol.

Tetradon
3 years ago
^ How to say you can't discuss the issues, without saying you can't discuss the issues...
skibum609
3 years ago
When people cannot refute the facts they cry racism; an admission they're wrong and not very smart.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
When you bring up skinheads and neonazis being killed instead. You essentially contend that Rittenhouse is in fact an extreme right wingers. Thank you
Tetradon
3 years ago
Actually that's who I compare Antifa/BLM rioters to.

Get back to studying for your GED. You might discover reading is FUNdamental!
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
No you keep saying I'd think differently if rittenhouse were a leftist killing a neonazi proud boy etc. So you contend that that's what rittenhouse is
Tetradon
3 years ago
Good grief, you are stupid.

This scenario, Rittenhouse uses self defense against Antifa/BLM.

My hypothetical, progressive activist uses self defense against Neo Nazis.

Rittenhouse is compared to the activist, not the Nazis.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
The scenario you invented reverses roles. Hence what you really believe 🤡
CJKent_band
3 years ago
Kyle already won...

“Bruh I’m just tryna be famous”
~ Kyle’ TikTok
~ @4fdoorsmorewhores

Kyle ‘s TikTok
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=9266
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Reverses roles to show I'm making decisions on the facts, not my "side."

Were you born this stupid or did you have to work at it?
Tetradon
3 years ago
Rittenhouse weapons charge dismissed

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com…
doctorevil
3 years ago
What does racism have to do with a case where one white guy shot three other white guys, all of whom were caught on video attacking him as he tried to run away from them?
drewcareypnw
3 years ago
^^^ I am not a fan of Rittenhouse, but, I have to agree w Dr Evil here. 3 whites guys chasing down another white guy (albeit acting like an ass) and getting shot for their trouble does not a racist incident make.
doctorevil
3 years ago
I’m not a fan of Rittenhouse either. If being a 17-year old dumb ass was a crime, he should definitely be convicted of that. But if that were a crime, the entire population of 17-year olds would be locked up.
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Agreed. 17 year old dumbass is redundant.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“Nice to see this board is still racist as ever”

~ Nina Bambina
~ Nov 15, 2021
~ Joined TUSCL Nov, 2013, Last Seen Nov, 2021
~ Probably in MI.
Dave_Anderson
3 years ago
YouTube has suspended three of my accounts in the past week just for defending poor young Kyle. The New World Order is going for broke on this persecution of poor young Kyle.

This is about more than just destroying poor young Kyle's life, its about 1. destroying the right to self-defense that has been recognized since antiquity by making it so limited and so difficult for the average person to understand what's permitted they will never dare attempt to defend themself, and 2 to demonstrate that the next time the globalists organize a mass uprising like they did in 2020 nobody better do anything even peacefully standing in front of property to interfere.

Yes the prosecutor Binger is slick talking lying sleeze with no soul, but he's getting his marching orders from much higher up.
twentyfive
3 years ago
I wonder if there is something the mother can be charged with, I know for a fact none of my exes would have allowed my kids to walk around armed with any firearm in an area where trouble was expected what a crappy mother this 17 year old dumbass had, he started out with 2 strikes against him little wonder he's in so much trouble.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Boobza nazi bitch you just said white privilege exists 🤡😭


Odds are Kyle is a Virgin incel
gammanu95
3 years ago
As soon as someone argues white privilege, you know you are dealing with a complete idiot who has no skills for reasoning, logic, or critical analysis. White privilege is to intellctual bankruptcy, as BLM and antifa are to moral bankruptcy.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Gammanu but white people are 7nder siege right? And so js white rule? 🤡
DoctorPhil.
3 years ago
I’ve been staying away from the political treads because it’s too easy to get a rise out of folks. But I’m really glad I checked this one. This shit:

“ ^ Because this one isn't a real lion, just an annoying giant pussy”

Is some top notch shit. I mean really. Not a real lion? Heaven forfend. That’s some Sherlock Holmes level deduction there Tetradon.

How did you come to that conclusion? Did you use my space geneious algorithm to compare the lion guy’s posts to all of the real lions you find posting on “teh interwebz”?

Keep up the good work! BTW, can I get your opinion on that lizard that sells insurance? Because I think that might not be a real talking lizard and I just want to check with an expert...
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Phil, normally I'm a fan of your stuff, but this wordplay flew way the fuck over your head.

This is like if I made a joke about Santa Claus and you had to chime in and go "SANTA CLAUS ISN'T REAL, DUMBASS!" and go around thinking you're so smart.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Trolladon thinks his verbal diarrhea isn't a product of his extremism and for some reason he thinks his misinterpretation of the legal system carries any weight. He's suffering from white privilege. Very entitled
Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
On a side note, I'm not remotely surprised to discover that Dave Anderson has (at least) three YouTube accounts, or that they've been suspended.

One has to wonder if he's posting the same videos on PornHub to follow his long-running tradition of posting to adult websites while apparently having no interest in tits, ass, or pussy.
Tetradon
3 years ago
@ICEE, I'm sure that word salad made sense in your head.
Tetradon
3 years ago
@CMI, I think Dave has (directionally) the right take on the issue, minus the conspiracy theorizing and liking his own posts.

Like elsewhere, I've suggested his penis make an overdue appointment with a woman's mouth.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Schroeder is dismissing the lesser charges hoping for a not guilty on the more severe ones so rittenhouse walks. He really thinks he can do this in such a high profile trial and the nation won't notice
twentyfive
3 years ago
You're so far off base Boobza, my kids would have received a beating for being in a area where there was bound to be trouble that didn't concern them at all, I don't care who you think is right this kid is in so much trouble, no matter how this case winds down, it ain't gonna be over not by a long shot.
This kid is a real dumbass, and his mother should have known better, just because the judge dropped the gun charge and the curfew violation charge, doesn't mean shit, those were actual crimes and his mother not only drove him there, she failed in every responsibility, AND FACILITATED his being in that area, illegally armed no less, the owners of that gas station weren't there, how the fuck is it the business of some random 17 year old dumbell, what the other people were or weren't going to do. This kid is a walking time bomb, just pay attention to the testimony.
Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
He dismissed the charge because a broadly written WI gun law allows a 17-year-old to carry long guns. Technically, it's geared towards hunting, but the drafting of the law makes it apply to a much wider range of environments.
Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
I still think this trial is a giant Rorschach test for armchair lawyers.

And that includes me, who thinks that Rittenhouse did commit a crime and should be convicted. But, with roughly 400 posts across two threads, there's not a chance in hell I'm going to dump a bunch of bandwidth into either thread.
Dave_Anderson
3 years ago
#DisbarBinger
Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
#gotouchaboobie
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
CIM a judge can rule how they want to. He is finding loopholes real or imagined to help rittenhouse
twentyfive
3 years ago
@boobza
First off the owners actually didn't ask Rittenhouse to do anything, secondly no responsible parent would sanction a 17 year old to walk around the streets of a city that was on fire, third the group that Rittenhouse was told explicitly to stay on the private property not go wandering around to play medic in a tinderbox, fourth, I don't know your situation, nor do you know mine, and I don't care to argue all day, you can have your opinion, mine isn't the same nor is it going to change. I believe Rittenhouse needs to be punished for his actions, I don't know what a fair punishment might be, nor will I speculate, last and final point I stand by my statement that the mother is a lousy parent, and I'm sure that's why this idiot kid, is in big trouble.
mark94
3 years ago
Prosecutor/Dumbass points AR 15 at people attending trial

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/11/…
mark94
3 years ago
“You lose the right to self-defense when you’re the one who brought the gun,” Binger said.

…… or if you support Trump, apparently.
mark94
3 years ago
Rittenhouse killed Joseph Rosenbaum who was indicted on 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity around children, including anal rape.

The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 yrs old.
twentyfive
3 years ago
^ Fuck off idiot, nowhere did I make a personal attack, you want to fight just fuck off,
skibum609
3 years ago
If Icee was capable of reading she'd have read the Judge's reasoning regarding the dismissed charge. Simple fact is that 2 armed progressive rioters and criminals and a pederast were shot. Good trifecta to hit.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Basically...as per Reuters

Binger argued, Rittenhouse instigated the first shooting by pointing his weapon at people, and caused the subsequent encounters by creating an "active shooter" situation in which protesters felt an urgency to disarm him.

"If you created the danger, you forfeit the right to self-defense by bringing that gun, aiming it at people, threatening people's lives," said Binger, who aimed the gun in front of the jury to demonstrate. "The defendant provoked everything."
misterorange
3 years ago
Let's see what happens tomorrow. I think if the verdict comes back quickly it's good for Kyle. That means 1-2 days.

If it goes longer, the jury has been influenced by mob rule, fearing for their own lives and/or their families, because they've been doxed. A symptom of modern technology that turns the Constitution on its head. That's our future. Good luck with that.
Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
"... Prosecutor/Dumbass points AR 15 at people attending trial ..."

What an idiot - especially given what happened with Alec Baldwin - and the idiot prosecutor even had his finger on the trigger which one should never do - what a fucking idiot - Rittenhouse should be found not-guilty if anything b/c he's being prosecuted by an idiot
ilbbaicnl
3 years ago
You'd think the priority of the police would be to arrest the curfew violators with firearms before other curfew violators. Where tf was the Wisconsin National Guard, clearly the cops were overwhelmed?

It was a confrontation between white people who don't actually give a shit about black people. A bunch of white slack-jaws, looking for an excuse to make stuff blow up good. I don't know as I'm sure KR started out so racist, more just a kid with a fantasy of being a TV cop. He's probably going to do a short sentence in some facility, and will probably have little choice except to fall in with an White Power inmate gang. And nobody's allowed to quit an inmate gang, even after they get out. Only in America, white people are racist while being anti-racist. All this rioting and throwing projectiles at the cops was a big part of why the Democrats lost House seats in 2020. The AOC crowd in Minneapolis tried to pass some defund the police thing, even though polls showed most black people there were against it by a big margin.
rickthelion
3 years ago
Libby ape or whatever the fuck your name is, you just don’t understand. Having the Ape Guard or whatever there would interfere with the purge.

Imma plan the next purge for you dumbass apes. No guns. Guns make purges boring. Also, you need more cameras. How are you going to bet on the winners and losers if you can’t see the game? Another thing, you wouldn’t need as many cops if you just held it in a stadium. Then the cops can relax unless any contestants try to exit. Plus, you could have spectators in the stands to watch the violence.

Since I’m taking the time to plan this purge to entertain you all I’ll be the emcee. Although you should call me “emperor”.

I’m already practicing my thumbs up/thumbs down gesture to let a victorious contestant know whether to finish the job. Don’t worry, I’ll be merciful. Unless I’m drunk. Now where is my driving whiskey? ROAR!!!
doctorevil
3 years ago
"... Prosecutor/Dumbass points AR 15 at people attending trial ..."

The lack of firearms knowledge on display by the prosecutors was appalling. In addition to Binger pointing a rifle at other people, the other prosecutor, the one who looks like Chris Farley, argued that there is no such thing as a left-handed or right handed gun. I’m not sure why this was even an issue, but what he said is not true. Most guns are made for right handed people. They can all be operated left-handed, but few are truly ambidextrous. When he was talking about whether Rittenhouse “re-racked” his rifle, it was clear he had no idea what he was talking about.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Who made better closing arguments doesn't matter. Although it was the prosecution.
skibum609
3 years ago
The prosecutors were incompetent. Totally progressive.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
The trial is just a farce, this is what happens when the system does what it was designed to do: protect the privileged, no matter how ridiculous it looks.

Kyle Rittenhous has been turned into a “folk hero” among the far-right/White Supremcist in this country.

Posing in pictures with a shirt 👚 reading “FREE AS FUCK”, at Pudgy's bar in Mount Pleasant. Kenosha County, flashings White Supremacist,/White Power hand signs

And being serenaded with the song ‘Proud of Your Boy,’ which is an obscure song written for the 1992 Disney film 'Aladdin.'

The violent white supremacist group called the Proud Boys was named after this song, which is sung by its members as an anthem and for self-identification."
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“I'm not saying that white people are better...

I'm saying that being white is clearly better.

Who could even argue?”

“Now, if you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole.”

~ Louis Székely
~ White Privileged stand up comedian
~ Born Sep 12, 1967 Washington, D.C., U.S.

“I Enjoy Being White”
gammanu95
3 years ago
We're not going to change each others opinions. We're not going to agree on everything at once. Still, or my part, it will be a gross miscarriage of justice if KR is to be convicted of ANYTHING. The prosecution completely failed to prove nay of the charge, their own witnesses supported the defense's arguments. If the jury convicts KR on any of the charge, it will be political and not judicial.

Now, there are ANTIFA, BLM idiots who probably don't know everyone involved was white, Commies, and other dirtbag activists asking that any 'Not guilty" verdict be vacated and overturned. They do not care how justice in America works, they do not care about justice being done to our citizens. They think their whiny little opinions should guide how the courts operate and how people are punished. Why? Because this stupid petitional mob justice action worked in getting Zimmerman prosecuted so many years ago. Obviously, it all makes my blood boil. Nothing we can do now but wait and see.
Studme53
3 years ago
Good rule of thumb throughout history - Justice is usually a verdict that is the opposite of the demands of the mob threatening violence.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
Racism is not dead in America, but the undeniable fact remains that many whites have died trying to defeat it...
Tetradon
3 years ago
@studme, wish I could give a hundred thumbs up. We cannot give in to the mob.
gobstopper007
3 years ago
Prosecutors rushed to file and indict before really investigating the matter. Rittenhouse guilty of stupidity (not a crime) but not of the crimes charged. Even Marcia Clark would say these prosecutors tried this case poorly.

It’s not racism if the prosecutors do not do their job.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“Sorry I'm being so negative. I'm a bummer. I don't know--I shouldn't be. I'm a very, you know, lucky guy.

I've got a lot going for me: I'm healthy, I'm relatively young, I'm white...which, thank God for that shit, boy. That is a huge leg up.

Are you kidding me? Oh, God, I love being white. I really do. Seriously, if you're not white, you're missing out.

Because this shit is thoroughly good. Let me be clear, by the way.

I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that being white is clearly better. Who could even argue?

If it was an option, I would re-up every year.

"Oh, yeah, I'll take 'white' again, absolutely. I've been enjoying that. I'm gonna stick with white, thank you."

Here's how great it is to be white: I can get in a time machine and go to any time, and it would be fucking awesome when I get there! That is exclusively a white privilege.

Black people can't fuck with time machines! A black guy in a time machine's like, "Hey, anything before 1980, no thank you. I don't want to go."

But I can go to any time! The year 2. I don't even know what's happening then, but I know when I get there...

"Welcome, we have a table right here for you, sir."

"Thank you. Oh, it's lovely here in the year 2."

I can go to any time--in the past. I don't want to go to the future and find out what happens to white people because we're gonna pay hard for this shit, you got to know that.

We're not going to just fall from number one to two.

They're gonna hold us down and fuck us in the ass forever.

And we totally deserve it. But for now, wheeeeeeee!

Now, if you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole.

It is great. And I'm a man. How many advantages could one person have?

I'm a white man. You can't even hurt my feelings!

What can you really call a white man that really digs deep?

"Hey, cracker."

"Uh. Ruined my day. Boy shouldn't have called me a cracker.

Bringing me back to owning land and people, what a drag.

I 'm saying that being white is undeniably, clearly better.

Who could even argue?

Again, if you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole.”

~ Louis Székely
~ White Privileged 1%er
~ Born Sep 12, 1967 Washington, D.C., U.S.

“I Enjoy Being White”
misterorange
3 years ago
If I was on that jury I'd acquit Rittenhouse on every charge - just simply for being forced to listen to that fuckin' fuck and his fat fuckin' friend for more than a week.

That said, a pathetic prosecution like this, with all the sarcasm and extended arguments over minutia, is what you're gonna get when you decide to try a case that should not be tried.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
This is what court is like...
CJKent_band
3 years ago
The trial is just a farce, this is what happens when the system does what it was designed to do: protect the privileged whites in the USA, no matter how ridiculous it looks...
CJKent_band
3 years ago
^
U N D E N I A B L E
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
The problem is people commenting on media snippets rather than the actual trial.

Prosecution was too soft.

The judge biased.

And defense made a mistake by allowing ruttenhouse to be cross examined. He admitted to lying. Was disingenuous as he was evasive and when he did speak it was obvious he was well coached in what to say.

Defense is basing its case on a manipulated timeline of events ie claiming it was self defense since rittenhouse had a gun pointed at him. Ignoring the fact that that occurred only after he had already killed 2 people and was seen as a threat and active shooter.

It is a political trial despite everyone claiming otherwise. And the jury's verdict will be based on politics. We can thank Schroeder for turning the trial into a circus.
skibum609
3 years ago
This case should have never been prosecuted. Should have been a plea to a minor charge. The Judge has been in line with how he has been on the bench since he first sat. He's the longest serving district court Judge in the state and has done a good job, in view of the reprehensible cheating from the prosecutor who should be suspended for his actions. The wounded and one of the dead shitheads brought guns so they got what they asked for, the same as Rittenhouse, if he were shot. The pedophile started the attack. Just because you're a progressive douchebag you also have to follow the law. Having Rittenhouse testify was smart. He came across as what he was: a kid. Every witness is coached so stop being pissants. Every prosecution witness was coached.
What is truly disgusting is how fake mainstream news has covered the trial. He's "from another state". Um, his entire family is in Kenosha, he grew up in Kenosha, he shops at the Costco in Kenosha because its closest to his house. His Mother moved him out of Kenosha recently. So fuck left wing news who also failed to report that the wounded shithead admitted on the stand that Rittenhouse never even raised his gun towards him until he raised his first. Stupid Icee reads lying faggot left-wing news.
Time for a civil war is near. You siding with America or Progr4essives?
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Thus says an actual lawyer
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“Seriously, I think we may need to have the civil war again...

I am not sure they got it...

I feel that is like beating a drunk in an alley, and they wake up and say “I am ready come back...”

~ Kathleen Madigan
~ Born: September 30, 1965 Florissant, MO
~ “Civil War Again”
~ Bothering Jesus is Billboards #1 comedy album in the world,
~ Published on Mar 1, 2018

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eTpG_EUmXr…
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Witnesses testified and video evidence showed Rittenhouse pointing his gun at others. Rittenhouse was never threatened with a weapon until after he had killed 2 people.
yahtzee74
3 years ago
The complaint that Rittenhouse traveled across state lines is poor. Rittenhouses home town of Antioch is right on the boarder. Huber lived in Silver Lake which is just as far away from Kenosha as Antioch (35 minutes) and Grosskreutz was from West Allis, a suburb of Milwaukee, which is almost an hour from Kenosha. Rosenbaum was released from a Milwaukee mental hospital that day.

yahtzee74
3 years ago
>Witnesses testified and video evidence showed Rittenhouse pointing his gun at others.

The only video "evidence" of Rittenhouse pointing his gun at someone is Mr Magoo level blurry and requires a wild and biased imagination.

As far as I know the only witness that testified about pointing a gun was Grosskreutz admitting he pointed his gun at Rittenhouse before being shot. You have any other source?

One of the men Rittenhouse was accused of pointing his gun at was never called by the prosecution.
skibum609
3 years ago
At the end of the day it was progressives who destroyed the future for black Americans.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Rittenhouse lying 🤣🤣🤡

https://youtube.com/shorts/dPxJT92vX-k?f…
CJKent_band
3 years ago
^
^skibum609

At the beginning of the day and the creation of the United States it was white British paranoid hypocrites and ungrateful malcontents who separated from England and destroyed the future for black Americans.

There, fixed it for you all, you are welcome.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Skibum is self hating. The alt right he supports is antisemitic
DoctorPhil.
3 years ago
Can you people relax about Rittenhouse and comment on the revenge porn mayor I posted about. Your expertise as demented perverts (not that there’s anything wrong with that) should provide insights there.

Here’s the revenge porn thread: https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7775… You’re welcome!

And if you don’t want to discuss that, at least have a little fun. The lion guy has a great idea with his whole gladiator thing. Here’s an idea: Rittenhouse has lawn darts and plastic bag guy has a bike chain. Who wins? What weapons would you like to see?

Also, you’re welcome for the better topic.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Drphil call this a troll thread too then
CJKent_band
3 years ago
^
“I'm not saying that white people are better...

I'm saying that being white is clearly better.

Who could even argue?”

“Now, if you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole.”

~ Louis Székely
~ White Privileged stand up comedian
~ Born Sep 12, 1967 Washington, D.C., U.S.

“I Enjoy Being White”
Tetradon
3 years ago
I'm amazed how many people jump on a thread (and therefore bump it) just to say "you guys are talking too much about this."

It's the TUSCL equivalent to a Reply All that tells people to stop hitting Reply All.
misterorange
3 years ago
You know, as much as this should probably be a slam dunk for the defense, it only takes one unreasonable moron to fuck things up and cause a hung jury.

A few years back I was selected as a juror for a criminal case. The guy was charged with burglary and there was the option of convicting him on a lesser charge of breaking and entering, criminal trespass, or some shit like that. The defense acknowledged that he broke into the house, but said he was high on crack and broke in to seek shelter from bad weather. He was hiding in the basement when the cops showed up, tried to make a run for it, and was caught minutes later in a neighbor's back yard. The defense ASKED us to convict him on the lesser charge, and acquit him on the burglary since he didn't manage to steal anything.

The "taking shelter" argument sounded like bullshit to me, but I was in the minority. I think there were three of us who tried to convince the others that the guy had tried (and failed) to rob the house, but after several hours we acquiesced because it was going nowhere. So it comes down to eleven of us voting for the trespassing charge, and one stupid old lady who refused to convict him of anything at all, even though it was an established fact that he broke into the house and scared the crap out of the family who lived there.

We spent two and a half days trying to convince this woman. Twice we sent a "hopelessly deadlocked" note to the judge, and both times he sent us back to deliberate some more. We questioned this fuckin' old bag about whether or not she heard the defense attorney when he ASKED us to convict his client on the lesser charge. She says, "I heard, but I don't think he's guilty of anything." We told her that if we ended up as a hung jury, the case would be tried again, and the next jury might convict him of the worst charge. Nope. She didn't want to hear it. The old bitch just wasn't gonna budge, and the worst part was she SMILED every time she refused to change her decision. I don't know whether she somehow knew the guy, or just had nothing better to do than sit in a closed room enjoying the free coffee, but she wouldn't give in or listen to any reasonable argument.

The third time we told the judge it was a no-go, he accepted it. Don't know what ever happened to the poor bastard who was on trial, but I do know this fuckin' jackass old lady wasted two weeks of everyone's time and took a big shit on the "scales of justice."
Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
If KR gets convicted it will send a message that mob-rule rules and no-one better stand in their way when they decide to indiscriminately burn police stations and burn and loot private-businesses that had nothing to do w/ what happened; it will send a message that the current government will go after you if your mess w/ their street-enforcers.

In NYC you have the NYC BLM leader making threats that there will be violence if the new major institutes new police measures to bring down the current crime levels – and in Ft Worth, TX you had a pro-CRT dude making threats at a school board meeting saying he had a 1000 soldiers “locked and loaded” – the Brandon administration will go after parents complaining at school board meetings but they say zilch about these leftists making public threats.

Tetradon
3 years ago
^ The race baiters want Rittenhouse to twist in the wind regardless. Read any major liberal commentator and it's about "they should find him guilty because if he were black he'd be shot dead" or "because if he walks, white supremacists will be happy."

BTW CJ is just a troll who repeats the same fatuous quotes on every thread. Pay him no heed. Besides, ICEE is more fun to repeatedly squash.
misterorange
3 years ago
The verdict will likely come tomorrow. We're gonna need another re-boot of this thread.
Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
The fact they have to bring in hundreds of national reserve in case he's found not-guilty, vs b/c he's found guilty, pretty-much tells you everything and what/who one is dealing with.
Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
Tells you how full of shit and biased the mainstream-media is where you have a convicted felon carrying an illegal-gun and pointing it at someone, yet you don't hear a beep about "gun control" when is one of their thugs attacking one of their political-enemies
Lone_Wolf
3 years ago
Not guilty verdict should have taken 15 minutes. Hoping it's not some activist hold out.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
Wrong is wrong, no matter when, where or who does it or says it...

“It’s never been about left vs right (or white vs black)...

More like 0.1% of regular ass humans tricking the rest of us into fighting among ourselves while they rob us blind.”

~ SanchoRG, Texas
~ Joined Aug, 2017 Last Seen Nov, 2021
yahtzee74
3 years ago
Here's hi-def drone footage of Rittenhouse shooting Rosenbaum.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/…

Notice how the crowd starts running to escape before Rittenhouse even shoots. That's them running for cover after the one of the rioters fired the first shot into the air. If everyone else was fearing for their life then I'm sure Rittenhouse, who was being chased, also feared for his life at that moment.

I should also note here that in addition to firing first, the rioters also fired more shots than Rittenhouse.
A compilation video where you can hear all the other shots fired that night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMUIq1o8…
mark94
3 years ago
NEW MOTION TO DISMISS WITH PREJUDICE:

Kenosha prosecutors WITHELD VIDEO EVIDENCE from Kyle Rittenhouse Defense Team

The version of the drone footage given to the defense was NOT the same version the prosecution had
mike710
3 years ago
@misterorange. I've been on several juries myself but for civil trials that don't have to be unanimous.

Once, I was on a jury with 10 women and 2 guys. We were to rule against a 90 year old doctor or a 60 something serial lawsuit woman.

The doctor lied on the stand with some contradictions. I was foreman due to previous trial experience. So I did an initial poll and it was 10-2 for guilty. The problem was the jury hated the plaintiff bitch and didn't want to give her a penny.

If we found guilt, we had to deliberate a bunch of other things. Since nobody wanted to give the plaintiff a penny,I used the jury instructions to question each guilty verdict female to turn them to not guilty.

I knew was guilty but he was old, frail and a better person to the women on the jury. Everyone hated the other bitch.

I had no interest in spending more than a week of my life on this and turned the other jurors even though he was guilty as charged.

I just wish I could talk strippers into bed as easy as this was.
yahtzee74
3 years ago
Here's a better version of the drone video than the one posted on twitter. Twitter apparently processes everything.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/146…
Tetradon
3 years ago
New thread with the verdict coming. You're welcome.

https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7775…
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
The judge didn't allow better footage.





And Ahmaud Arbery?
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ I haven't caught up on Arbery but those 3 look pretty guilty. Arbery didn't initiate a confrontation and wasn't in the midst of hurting anyone.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Boobza did rittenhouse know some of his victims had alleged records?
Mate27
3 years ago
Rittenhiuse will be acquitted and then more rioters looters will be killed for “protesting”. Yeah, right. Protesting……eye roll.
CJKent_band
3 years ago
“Racism is not dead in America, but the fact remains that many whites have died trying to defeat it.”
ilbbaicnl
3 years ago
When KR made his first kill, he was three blocks south of the business he was supposedly there to protect. Anyone know how that happened? We go round in circles about this, but important details about what happened are mysteriously missing. If Kyle's just stretching his legs on a quiet evening, not trying to provoke anyone, why doesn't he sling the rifle over his shoulder? Instead of holding it in a ready-to-fire position. In the old westerns, yes, open carry is not threatening, WHEN YOUR GUN'S IN THE DAMN HOLSTER. It the gun's in your hand, ready to fire, you were threatened, or you're threatening.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
The defense and judge ignored the timeliness of events. That's what made the case biased. You can't murder 2 people become an active shooter then claim self defense when a 3rd victim has a gun. You also can't claim self defense when you admit to being there to protect property....but the judge dismissed that fact.

Fortunately public opinion denounces him and he will get fucked when the families of the victims file civil suits.
motorhead
3 years ago
Don’t let facts get in the way of the agenda being pushed

See this

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadow…
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Whatever civil suits from the families of the child buttfucker and woman strangler will be dwarfed by the settlements Rittenhouse will get from CNN, MSNBC, NYT, Biden, Harris, Pressley, Swallwell, Bowman, Bush, and a hundred other blue checks.
Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Trolladon go give Kyle a bbbj he's 18 now.


If you believe that jts more money for his victims
Tetradon
3 years ago
^ Naah, he might leave me for a Puerto-Greekan weed dealer, then I'll have to pay him $5,000 to tell me he doesn't love me and OD on smack.

Why do you keep making predictions when your credibility is shot? After SJG (who at least has a triple digit IQ), you're the biggest joke here.
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