It is wrong to hand money over to women for purposes of entrapment!!

Only if you’re enjoying the FRMOS

This strikes me as a solution in search of a problem. Unless of course dudes just randomly handing money over to girls has suddenly become a thing and I'm just out of touch.

I don’t hand it over I usually stuff it in a kangaroo’s pouch and have her fish it out.

First you say without providing a service then you say providing a gfe. It can't be both

Let’s go Brandon!!

Let’s go Brandon!!

Let’s go Brandon!!

Bacon!!

Handing a woman money is standard in strip clubs. It shows good intentions. If she engages with you she will not come up empty handed. You are not trying to buy services. Rather you are recognizing that she has bills to pay, and that things like her stripper shoes amount to expenses for her. It shows that if she engages with you, the results will be good.

SJG

https://tuscl.net/member-photos.php?id=6…

^^^ where do you draw the line?? Are you expected to fund a lifestyle for them, and once that lifestyle is established then you control it as you see fit? It’s basically a game of control, and that is psychologically perverse, let alone before mentioning the sexual perversion. Definitely past what a normal person who is a so called self professed ladies man should have to do to show appreciation for the woman. Maybe not such creepy AF modes to show your affection??

Bacon!!

That is between you and the girl. Grow up.

This world is full of kept women, though I think more in countries other than the US.

Most women are getting either money, material support, or social benefit from the men they fuck.

SJG

https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=3199

SJG, you’re saying as long as a guy goes to strip clubs he should only use that venue as a search for someone to be your sex slave for free, and your just keeping them around for what purpose by feeding money under the table to them? Normally a person can hand $$ over to any woman to show their appreciation for them, even street hookers. According to you it is acceptable to hand $$ over to a street walker so they engage with you. just for companionship?

Isn’t the library closed by now, 5:30 PM local San Jose time?

Yeah it's closed, because he definitely would have responded to that. It's entertaining to watch you guys try to have a sane conversation with a dude that's totally out of his fucking mind.

I'll be here tomorrow at library opening time with a couple beers and watch the shit show resume.

Both san_jose_creep and icee are PLs that can't bear to admit to themselves that they are resorting to paying a whore for sex. So they create an elaborate justification, aka do all kinds of mental gymnastics, in their own mind that embellishes this act and make it something else besides simple prostitution.

In san_jose_creep's case he makes it about him being "respectful" and having "good intentions" as he solicits a prostitute for sex. LMFAO he even says it's not about buying a service, but that's exactly what he's buying.

In icee's case she just pays for the same things a whore would have already paid for using sex money. For examples she buys the drugs for her whores and pays their tip outs at the club - both of which are as much if not more money than the GFE services rendered through direct payment. But again she can't bear this thought of P4P so the payment for other things besides the sex directly allows her the mental excuse that she's not paying.

Both of them go completely mental and get all butthurt if you suggest that it's just embellished P4P, even though that's all it is. 🤭🤡

Just read their posts carefully in threads like this and it will be obvious. They're both obsessed about not appearing that they P4P. It's like a defense mechanism. 🤣

Entrapment is a term often thrown around but in reality is one of the hardest things to prove and people get convicted on other things.

Handing money to anyone for no reason is a chumps game though. But we all know what it's a euphemism for. The law isn't based on semantics. The intent is obvious.

^ hey icee yeah like you trying to hand $5000 to a coke junkie stripper whore just to talk to you. That's pretty high on the chump's game scale, no?

Hey Meat, you glossed over the fact that SJG never mentions that a woman might want to be in love with her man as one of the benefits for the her. Maybe he is incapable of feeling that emotion and as a pure psychopath can only see women for one purpose, his own personal satisfaction absent of including his woman as a member of a team that grows an organization to fruition?

No, SJG has to run his women into the ground as his own personal controlling sex slave by handing money over to them. After he is done with them they have nothing. You can tell by the proof his organization hasn’t gotten off the ground since joining this site over 7 years ago!!

Grooming women for the organization = turning them out lulz

Honestly the best way to turn em out is for a hoe to fall jn love with you

^^^ hoe to fall jn love with you = hoe becomes dependent on you for drugs and money

🤭🤡

My organization does not ever pimp out our women.

I have never advocated trying to get anything in a strip club without showing generosity. And for guys with SO's, they should never get anywhere near a strip club.

And yeah, women will tend to fall in love with you so long as you don't treat them like prostitutes.

In a strip club, yes, money is a show of respect. If you find her there, you have to go along with that.

It won't all be thru me though, that would limit the growth of the organization.

SJG

HK Bar Debauchery, and Latin Dance Links
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7673…

^^^^ And we don't dispense drugs, allow drugs, or deal with druggies

SJG

It's just semantics. P4p is just that and grooming someone for sex servitude is essentially the same strategy as turning them out.

But I'm just saying a woman who loves you will do most anything

"But I'm just saying a woman who loves you will do most anything"

But what you're really saying is an addicted coke junkie would be with you as long as you're supplying her coke and money.

I bet she'd even tell you she "loves" you.

That is, until a better coke source comes along.

🤣🤣🤣

Nothing in my organization will amount to sex servitude. It is a much tighter bond than that. And the women don't start their initiatons until they really understand this.

SJG

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Unchained Melody
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tZ7ekLw…

Yeah, but how many women do yiu currently have in your organization? Zero?

Meat how many women do you have in your organization?

My organization was lined up to move to a suitable facility, but that was before the COVID shelter order, which destroyed retail business.

We will never deal with anyone until we are sure they are of legal age.

And a big step when recruiting a new member will be when they are put in touch with women and men from the organization, so it is no longer just a 1:1 relationship.

They don't actually get admitted until they are approved by a committee of the women and a committee of the men. We do not ever advertise, it is always by invitation only.

And it must not all go through me. That would make the growth too slow.

No one gets in until we are sure that the fully understand it.

SJG

HIS REACTION WHEN I SING | Shallow - Lady Gaga | Allie Sherlock & Cuan Durkin Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tZ7ekLw…

Theniggaformerlyknownas2icee to be candidly honest with you, at least 4 because I have a family. Do you even know what it entails to start a family? It starts with leaving the bullshit excuses behind and taking actual accountability for your stock in life. You play the victim card. Considering I started my organization with just me, it’s expanding quite robustly, especially compared to you and SJG!! Lol

And Meat72, you are the one who uses people and does not take responsibility for this. There is no such thing as social conservatism, it is all just reaction.

SJG

^^ explain the specifics to your argument that I do not take responsibility. You just made a statement without a purpose! Circular logic. Now go on, describe specifically tye situations I’m not taking responsibility for?

It is what Satre and de Beauvoir said, "The bourgeoisies lives in Bad Faith." And this is the primary characteristic of the middle-class

They don't take responsibility for creating their own values.

You are expecting people to pat you on the back, to show deference to you, as you speak about this family. Well, you are using this family to give yourself an approved identity, because you refuse to take responsibility for your own life and your own choices.

SJG

https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=2152

^^^ not expecting anybody to pat me on the back, the reason why you start a family is, because that is how life regenerates itself and you lead a life of fulfillment and happiness knowing you’ve created a strong until, the family! Now maybe you can’t go there in your head because you are incapable of loving another human being unconditionally San Jose Goatfucker, but knowing you have a safe haven at home with your family is awesome considering the world is full of crazy goody bastards like you that we want to protect our
Loved ones from.

How do you state that when creating a family you don’t create your own values? That makes no sense, because you pass onto your offspring tye values you’ve established, such as stay away from creepy perverts who want to entrap you into a sex cult like yiu SJGOATFUCKER!! Family takes a lot of responsibility on establishing boundaries and taking accountability to grow tye organization, a fact easily passing yiu by because you have no family, no organization, or accountability. Period!

No Meat72, what you are doing is trying to hide behind people, using them to give you a public identity, and then asking people to defer to you. It is child exploitation.

SJG

Woman in Restraint Harness and High Heels, Ready to be Hitched Up!
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Meat does your wife love you unconditionally even when you cheat on her with hookers?

^^ how do you surmise that I even cheat on my wife, especially with hookers? I guess yiu can call it cheating if I get a couple lap dances without my sick coming out, then yeah I’m guilty. At least I don’t have to pay women in drugs or tip outs to socialize with me, I can simply go home and watch a movie with the women I’ve created an organization from, called my family. Considering there is never any bodily fluids exchanging they’re safe from my exploits. If you care to read my profile, you’ll know my stance on playing safely, but I wouldn’t expect a NiggaNamedIcee to understand this shit and shit, because neither yiu or SJGOATFUCKER have the social skills it takes to lockdown a woman for committment and family. Drugs are a way of life for you. So is lying and pretending your a jigalo!

I'm one of the most honest people on here. And you mentioned wanting yo go to a German whorehouse

^^^ honestly, you’re the most ignored person on this site phatboy/IceeLoco/TrapBaby/NiggaIcee or whatever you call yourself nowadays .legitimate and trusted members like 25, CMI, SLD, Rick Dugan, Shadow, Motorhead, Terradon, etc, etc all have called you out on your blatant lies and your only comeback is to call them geriatric tricks. Why you think paying a girl in drugs and tip out $$ is being a strip club PUA in ghetto clubs is cool and yiu think you got game is the smoke screen yiu play. And you’re the most bigoted victim card playing g nigga in the media. You’re a one trick pony whose only game us selling pharmaceuticals (drugs) to linked out hoes, then turning around and calling them bitches!

What lies? You just either lied or admitted your family is your sex cult. Sick fuck

^^^ blatant lie #1 is that icee doesn't have to pay a coke junkie stripper whore for GFE.

Your quite the wordsmith Phatboy, NiggaIcee, IceyLoco or whomever you are! How do you connect having a family with it being a sex cult? Seems to me you’re the sick fuck, and a mental ritard. Now go sell some drugs to your addicted stripper girlfriends and tell me I’m morally inferior, dumbass!

You said your family is like sjgs org my nigga

Show us the proof! Link where I specifically wrote that. Stop trolling my threads Uber troll NiggaIcee.

if yiu don’t like my threads just use the ignore feature, instead of obsessing about me



"Theniggaformerlyknownas2icee to be candidly honest with you, at least 4 because I have a family...Considering I started my organization with just me, it’s expanding quite robustly, especially compared to you and SJG!! Lol"




Sick fuck

Meat72 wrote, "I guess yiu can call it cheating if I get a couple lap dances without my sick coming out"

Even spending time or money in a strip club is cheating on an SO.

SJG

Gurdjieff And De Hartmann - Songs of Sayyids and Dervishes
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Meats sickness comes out in every one of his posts. Can't imagine him at the nudie bar. Incestuous weirdo.

"Theniggaformerlyknownas2icee to be candidly honest with you, at least 4 because I have a family...Considering I started my organization with just me, it’s expanding quite robustly, especially compared to you and SJG!! Lol"

^^ homo says what? That’s what I thought. Stop trolling for dudes you sick fag, and stop asking me to be your power top. I like athletic girls, not drugged out wanne be pimps like you, who creates a post telling everybody you almost killed your self over a stripper hoe yiu caught feelings from, and she decided to drop you for a weed dealing Greek/puerto rican God! Yes, that’s right! Yiu almost killled yourself over that!! LOL!!!! lmfao!!!

Your words sick fuck

"Theniggaformerlyknownas2icee to be candidly honest with you, at least 4 because I have a family...Considering I started my organization with just me, it’s expanding quite robustly, especially compared to you and SJG!! Lol"
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^^^ https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7636…

A strip club saved my life!! Lmfao!!! Lol.

What a trick bitch you’ve become. Change your name again Phatboy,Icee, Nigga, whatever you are or do. Are you still in pharmaceutical sales my Nigga? Maybe score some blow or fentanyl for your drug addicted girlfriend??

Tell us more about you organization. Do you initiate your kids? Is 20fag a member? What kind of sick fuck compares their family to a sex cult

What kind of sick fuck thinks about family and sex in the same organization? ^^

I’ll tell you who, a NiggaNamedIcee and his former namesakes who also tries to cover as a pimp for strippers that doubles as a drug dealer, or as he calls it “pharmaceutical sales”!

You’re the only one who has written “sex”, “cult”, and “family” in the same sentence, IceeNigga!

Your words not mine

"Theniggaformerlyknownas2icee to be candidly honest with you, at least 4 because I have a family...Considering I started my organization with just me, it’s expanding quite robustly, especially compared to you and SJG!! Lol"

Where is the word “sex” in there? Seems like you’re the j my one with a twisted enough psychosis to interject the word sex into all that!

In case you need to learn something, read about gaslighting. It’s the form of manipulation you default to, and quite sure your stripper junkies hoe that broke up with you had the reasons to based on your manipulation. It’s a form of controlling, or attempt to, upon weak minded individual. Yiu take advantage of stripper hoes addicted to drugs and $$. That’s what this thread is about, NiggaIcee.

^^^@Meat that is spot on about icee.

And she even admits to and advises that way of manipulation! Take a look at these two icee posts (as IceyDodo) back in June 2018:


"Don’t be afraid to discipline her. Eventually you’ll have to. Be manipulative with her feelings."

"The number one thing you need to do to fulfill her needs is to make her dependent on you for as much as possible. You basically have to manage her life."

^^^ by her own admission she needs to control and psychologically manipulate drug addicted stripper whores. 🤭🤡

^^ and if you click on who has liked the majority of Icee’s posts, it is Icee!! That’s evidence of how much credibility he doesn’t have in his comments if he is the one mostly liking, and rarely anybody else has approved Icee’s comments. That’s a sick and twisted demented transgendered individual Icee be!

You're saying your org is like sjgs then say its your family. Sick fuck.

ICEE is by far one of the most sensible and reasonable in his discourse on this entire forum.

SJG

Icee is a big self aggrandizing troll on this forum.

^^^^^ Just try and engage in a civil conversation for once, and you will find out otherwise.

SJG

^^^ just read my very first interactions with IceyDodo and you'll see they were civil. You'll realize that she started trolling first, in a big way.

For once consider that not everyone agrees with you. Just once!

SLD, you can make civil posts, to ICEY, now. You don't need to launch negative meta-narratives.

SJG

san_jose_creep this is an unmoderated forum. You are not a moderator anyway.

FYI I troll anyone that trolls me. It's that simple. If icee ever chooses to stop trolling, I'll probably eventually stop trolling her back. But that isn't the case. As stated, icee is a big self aggrandizing troll on this forum. Until this changes, expect her to get trolled.

If you still have issue with this all, remember...

...this is an unmoderated forum. You are not a moderator anyway.

SLD, Icey is not trolling you. He just has learned to think critically about things which have legal and political ramifications. We need that on this forum.

SJG

TJ Street
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^^^ @san_jose_creep I completely disagree!

Icee is a bonafide troll. I have numerous examples.

Good on you for your opinion, but I wholeheartedly disagree!

SLD, make a legitimate post, respond to what people say, instead of making up ways to attack the person who said it.

SJG

"He just has learned to think critically about things which have legal and political ramifications"

Thanks man, best laugh I've had all day. If you actually read what he writes, he repeats himself or calls names when challenged.

Just chill out, otherwise civil conversation becomes impossible.

SJG

TJ Street
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Sjg they're here for the sole purpose of trolling anyone unlike them and to chase people off the site. The vip circle jerk room is boring to them. They get off on trolling

They make this into a turf battle, that is why they don't stay in the Underground Circle Jerk Room. I know that. But it is still worth it to try and talk some sense into them.

SJG

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TJ Street
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san_jose_creep I made a legitimate reply post to Meat72. It was also as per the thread topic.

Quit getting so butthurt about my posts about icee. I'm just posting as per what I'm reading.

Also...this is an unmoderated forum. We can post whatever the fuck we want.

And .. you're not a moderator anyway.

Don't like my posts? Don't read them! It's not that complicated but yet you still gotta keep replying to them...

@icee LMFAO that's a bit rich coming from a troll like you. 🤭🤡

SLD, engage people in civil discourse, otherwise best just to stay silent.

SJG

TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=2305

san_jose_creep I made a legitimate reply post to Meat72. It was also as per the thread topic.

Quit getting so butthurt about my posts about icee. I'm just posting as per what I'm reading.

Also...this is an unmoderated forum. We can post whatever the fuck we want.

And .. you're not a moderator anyway.

Don't like my posts? Don't read them! It's not that complicated but yet you still gotta keep replying to them...

They lack common sense

SLD, I'm just trying to make an appeal for civility.

SJG

TJ Street

@SJG, if you want civility, perhaps you could stop the graphic threats that we both know you won't carry out.

@SJG
Civility really, yet your buddy Icee Fag won't stop with his derogatory and
misogynistic language, and homophobic slurs, when he stops his trolling then I'll ignore him, but regardless of what he does we aren't ever gonna be buds

We can't be making personal attacks, meta narrative. Just have to take people at face value, the way they present themselves.

No one would tolerate such personal attacks f2f. It only happens when you have keyboard kowards. But that is enough to poison a forum and run people off.

SJG

TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=2305

^ So your home boy isn't making a personal attack, referring to me as 20fag, when I haven't even participated in his little melodrama except when he referenced it to me, c'mon man quit the bullshit, you're out of your mind.

Civility has to start somewhere.

SJG

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Amber
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@san_jose_creep I heard your appeal for civility the first time, the second time, and every other time you made it. My answer is the same...

I made a legitimate reply post to Meat72. It was also as per the thread topic.

Quit getting so butthurt about my posts about icee. I'm just posting as per what I'm reading.

Also...this is an unmoderated forum. We can post whatever the fuck we want.

And .. you're not a moderator anyway.

Don't like my posts? Don't read them! It's not that complicated but yet you still gotta keep replying to them...

@san_jose_creep take your own advice... it's best you stay silent...

If we all post reckless meta-narratives intending to attack other members, the forum disintegrates.

SJG

LOU REED "Egg Cream"
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Amber
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@san_jose_creep take your own advice... it's best you stay silent...

>Civility has to start somewhere.

^^ >Civility has to start somewhere.<
GTFOH with that shit, Expect me to treat you and him, exactly the same way you treat me do you understand that concept ?

san_jose_creep talks "civility" but to me personally he's talked about blowing my brains out with a shotgun, dipping my head in acid, and heating me up to 1500F.

Yeah, I'm not taking any appeals for civility from san_jose_creep seriously. 🤷

Call it an anecdotal observation only, but ever since founder gave san_jose_creep a promotion to Circle Jerk, he's been trying to play the role of a forum moderator. I think he wants to be on his best behavior for founder. 🤔🤷

^ Or "exterminating" me. Which still hasn't happened...

You don't know how black ops work

LMFAO san_jose_creep is #3 on TUSCL's most ignored list and is preaching about the disintegration of the board.

https://tuscl.net/top40.php?id=11

🤣🤣🤣

"You don't know how black ops work"

I know how internet shit talkers work.

When she's not pimping and exploiting drug addicted stripper whores for financial gain, icee moonlights on black ops team Delta Farce. 🤭🤡

ICEE can pay for VIP, read one of my reviews, see where I like to club, and confront me F2F.

I've told several internet tough guys over the years where and when to meet me. None of them ever show.

^^^ even if she did show, don't expect a tough guy fight. Icee has admitted to fighting like a bitch. Here's what she said about fighting a weed dealer that stole her bottom bitch:

"The pain got to be too much for me when I saw them together. I confronted his bitch ass. He tried boxing. I fought dirty af and pepper sprayed him and beat his ass. Pulled his pants down and pepper sprayed his dick and balls. Lmfao"

https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7636…

^^^ LMFAO she called him a bitch yet she's the one that fought like one. 🤭🤡

^ I don't care about that. Untrained people look at trained individuals (like combat athletes) and say "oh that's nothing, I'd just kick him in the balls or pull out a weapon." Well, the trained guy can pull out a weapon too.

None of this matters though. We have two delusional individuals who think they baaaaad. Doubt either could afford a plane ticket.

Socially retarded weirdo trolladon brags about how no one tracks him down and flies out to see him 🤡

^ Uh, OK, Mr. Black Ops who wouldn't even meet Founder for a beer. Another internet shit stirrer.

Icee sure knows how to puff up a shirt! What a poser. And SJGoatfucker is a clone of Icee, where his mouth writes checks that his butt can’t cash.

Meat does your butt cash checks? How much do you get for your family's butts?

^^^ you don't know how slang works

🤭🤡